Hello.
While I very much appreciate the utility of this free app, it is extraordinarily difficult to ever find the current stable version of the app.
Thanks.
openletter said:
Hello.
While I very much appreciate the utility of this free app, it is extraordinarily difficult to ever find the current stable version of the app.
Thanks.
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As with most of your posts, this can be answered by using the search function of XDA as well as Google would answer your questions. Stable versions will me marked stable and others will say alpha, beta, wip, ...etc. Even looking in the specific thread for your device should point you to the current working version for your divice/ROM.
Sent from my SCH-R220
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As with most of your posts, this can be answered by using the search function of XDA as well as Google would answer your questions. Stable versions will me marked stable and others will say alpha, beta, wip, ...etc. Even looking in the specific thread for your device should point you to the current working version for your divice/ROM.
Sent from my SCH-R220
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It sounds you are the standard community regular who has at in no time within recent years ever tried to find the current stable version of SuperSU. You just assume that everyone in existence should automatically know to come to the XDA Developers forum.
Unfortunately, I have very low Internet points, so you and everyone else can safely ignore everything I type here, because the only thing I do have is a credit card, it will never be used to help anyone with SuperSU.
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It sounds you are the standard community regular who has at in no time within recent years ever tried to find the current stable version of SuperSU. You just assume that everyone in existence should automatically know to come to the XDA Developers forum.
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Whenever I flash a ROM I usually make sure root is the most current, especially if I am running systemless root. It can easily be downloaded from his site or from is threads here on XDA. So that makes your statement at best completely false and at worst rude.
I don't expect someone new to know everything, but what is expected in this community is to follow the rules. One of which is to use the search function before starting a thread. Especially on a topic that is universal to most phones, thus discussed at great length.
openletter said:
Unfortunately, I have very low Internet points, so you and everyone else can safely ignore everything I type here, because the only thing I do have is a credit card, it will never be used to help anyone with SuperSU.
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Quite honestly no one cares about your credit card. People don't develop and mod on XDA for a profit, they do it for fun/experience/because they can. Makes you sound like an angry child when you threaten to "take your ball and go home"
Sent from my SCH-R220
Yeah, don't know why I bothered to try and communicate that people NOT IN THE XDA FORUMS have a really hard time finding the latest stable version. Certainly a concept you cannot grasp.
And I do wonder why so many devs in other forums kindly ask for donations. I guess all those thousands of dollars I've spent for over-priced T-shirts, coffee mugs, and stickers that never even get applied to anything aren't appreciated by anyone, because they are just doing it all for charity.
Go pollute some different thread with you hate.
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Yeah, don't know why I bothered to try and communicate that people NOT IN THE XDA FORUMS have a really hard time finding the latest stable version. Certainly a concept you cannot grasp.
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It can be found on Chainfire's website, completely separate from XDA.
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And I do wonder why so many devs in other forums kindly ask for donations. I guess all those thousands of dollars I've spent for over-priced T-shirts, coffee mugs, and stickers that never even get applied to anything aren't appreciated by anyone, because they are just doing it all for charity.
Go pollute some different thread with you hate.
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On XDA, people don't ask for donations, they make it if people want to donate they can.
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Not completely clear your involvement with SuperSU, but you seem to speak for them, and none of them are saying otherwise. The money I contributed to developers and projects were all completely voluntary. It's really amazing I have to spell that out for you. I won't contribute one penny to SuperSU, unless someone from there wants to denounce your claim to speak for them.
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Not completely clear your involvement with SuperSU, but you seem to speak for them, and none of them are saying otherwise. The money I contributed to developers and projects were all completely voluntary. It's really amazing I have to spell that out for you. I won't contribute one penny to SuperSU, unless someone from there wants to denounce your claim to speak for them.
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I am not affiliated with supersu an any way, and you will not get a response from them in any fashion since you are being an idiot. I've told you how to find what you are looking for, so quit acting like a crybaby.
Sent from my SCH-R220
Go into the SuperSu Forum, they have a bunch of pinned threads, the one below is the most recent and stable. I haven't bothered to read this thread as it looks like it went into a **** fest, and glancing over no-one gave you a good direction to have a look at.
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Before i start let me say i have spent many hours trying to figure this out!
Tried many method to many to write down! but no joy!
i bought a galaxy tab p1000 th other day! it was on 02 so i rooted it and unlocked it! there was no problem there!
but after i hard reset my tab the market reverted back to the old version 1.82
not only this but app i paid for in the past didnt show up on "my apps"
The apps on the market were very limited no "z4root, snesoid, DVR," Just apps that say things like "rc1". weird!!!
i update the apk myself to 2.3.7 (root explorer) which gave me the new looking market but nothing changed with "my apps" and still limited apps on market!
When i got it it was android market 2.xx and worked fine.
Tried
-settings-applications-uninstall updates (and all other caches and probably fixes i found on xda)
google framework, talk, market updater, so on!! trust me everything......
-many hard resets
-unrooting/rerooting
This has stock firmware no flashing as of yet!!
Please Can you help!
For someone who has spent many hours trying to figure this out, you could've also spent some time to figure out the correct section to post in
After you figure out where this post really belongs (or when the Mods move it) try searching by name in the Market for the apps you bought. They should appear in the result and it should say "Purchased" if your main Gmail account is the same one you used for the purchase. If you then click on "Purchased" you should be able to install them
Works for me if and when my paid apps don't automatically load.
For some reason I've only had this problem on my Galaxy Tab but never on my HTC Legend where the apps always load automatically.
Also keep in mind that not all apps can be used on multiple devices even if you've paid for them
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For someone who has spent many hours trying to figure this out, you could've also spent some time to figure out the correct section to post in
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Well said!
It really baffles me why so many get to the stage of rooting/flashing their phone but don't have enough common sense to realise that they have no business posting topics such as this in here, especially when there is a dedicated Q&A section and this obviously a development forum.
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Well said!
It really baffles me why so many get to the stage of rooting/flashing their phone but don't have enough common sense to realise that they have no business posting topics such as this in here, especially when there is a dedicated Q&A section and this obviously a development forum.
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Yes... utter nonsense and rubbish if you ask me. It's little wonder the Dev forums are so overcrowded with clutter
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Yes... utter nonsense and rubbish if you ask me. It's little wonder the Dev forums are so overcrowded with clutter
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Well I think the post limit is still low. I think it should be upped to 20 or even more and A FORCED rule thread reading mod added to all new members before they get to post.
Thanks alot!!!!!!
Nice to know that people have got more time on there hands to moan about post then ACTAULLY HELP!!!!!
I THOUGHT XDA WAS A FRIENDLY COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE. I DO WHAT I CAN TO HELP ANYONE ! REGARDLESS OF WHERE ITS POSTED!!!!
BUT SOME PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE BETTER THEN EVERYONE ELSE AND RATHER THEN HELP. THEY WILL LOOK DOWN ON YOU AND COME OUT WITH COMMENTS THAT HELP KNOWONE!
THEY WASTE THERE OWN TIME!!
BUT BET THERE SO PROUD THEY HAD THERE LITTLE PETTY SAY!!
YOU LOT ARE SO F*******K SPECIAL!
CHEERS
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CHEERS
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Cheers man, good luck on that Tab!
install market enabler and after rooting your device(check bible thread) run it and choose any operator, or custom with enabler codes app. clear market cache before running enabler and hopefully all'll be fine.
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Nice to know that people have got more time on there hands to moan about post then ACTAULLY HELP!!!!!
I THOUGHT XDA WAS A FRIENDLY COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE. I DO WHAT I CAN TO HELP ANYONE ! REGARDLESS OF WHERE ITS POSTED!!!!
BUT SOME PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE BETTER THEN EVERYONE ELSE AND RATHER THEN HELP. THEY WILL LOOK DOWN ON YOU AND COME OUT WITH COMMENTS THAT HELP KNOWONE!
THEY WASTE THERE OWN TIME!!
BUT BET THERE SO PROUD THEY HAD THERE LITTLE PETTY SAY!!
YOU LOT ARE SO F*******K SPECIAL!
CHEERS
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Hey dude, you are so COOL because you can write in caps
You cant expect help if you post in wrong place, please use common sense, If you post in wrong place, obviously somebody is going to point it out to you. I'm happy to help anyone as long as they have the courtesy to read forum titles/use search.
In the right section I'm helpful. In the wrong section I'll help too, even when the help is a rebuke. The people who rebuffed you did help with your greatest need - to get you to post in the correct forum so your problem gets attention, not your manners.
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Nice to know that people have got more time on there hands to moan about post then ACTAULLY HELP!!!!!
I THOUGHT XDA WAS A FRIENDLY COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE. I DO WHAT I CAN TO HELP ANYONE ! REGARDLESS OF WHERE ITS POSTED!!!!
BUT SOME PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE BETTER THEN EVERYONE ELSE AND RATHER THEN HELP. THEY WILL LOOK DOWN ON YOU AND COME OUT WITH COMMENTS THAT HELP KNOWONE!
THEY WASTE THERE OWN TIME!!
BUT BET THERE SO PROUD THEY HAD THERE LITTLE PETTY SAY!!
YOU LOT ARE SO F*******K SPECIAL!
CHEERS
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Seems like we have yet another happy customer. Good work guys!
Xda is a friendly community. But like every community there are rules, and you need a bit of common sense.
And I know I'm special, my mum keeps telling me.
Sent from my mind. Or a Galaxy Tab
ElephantStone82 said:
Nice to know that people have got more time on there hands to moan about post then ACTAULLY HELP!!!!!
I THOUGHT XDA WAS A FRIENDLY COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE. I DO WHAT I CAN TO HELP ANYONE ! REGARDLESS OF WHERE ITS POSTED!!!!
BUT SOME PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE BETTER THEN EVERYONE ELSE AND RATHER THEN HELP. THEY WILL LOOK DOWN ON YOU AND COME OUT WITH COMMENTS THAT HELP KNOWONE!
THEY WASTE THERE OWN TIME!!
BUT BET THERE SO PROUD THEY HAD THERE LITTLE PETTY SAY!!
YOU LOT ARE SO F*******K SPECIAL!
CHEERS
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Even in the real world we need to abide by the rule bro. The mods and devs here in xda are most helpful. We just need to know how and where to post. They may have overdone it in pointing out you posted in the wrong section, but admittingly it's really annoying if it takes you 5 minutes browsing through the pages because of too much unnecessary thread in the wrong forum. Its best if you just say "thank you for pointing it out".
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Just figured this out totally by accident! I have the U.S. version of the GTab 2 7.0 GT-P3113, otherwise the one that has built in remote control capabilities via IR blaster. Just to let everyone know that if you flash the U.K. version of the JellyBean ROM listed on this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032683, And do so WITHOUT WIPING DATA, while coming from the STOCK 4.0.4 ROM...
YOU WILL RETAIN IR FUNCTIONALITY!!!
Peel, TouchSquid and others that use this IR port will still function.
I hope this helps at least one other person, and always you can click that little ol' ty button if you'd like to.
Old news and wrong section.
Wait Wait Wait, Would you mind pointing out where this has been covered, I can no longer find the thread. Pls and ty.
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IR should work on all stock based roms.
The issue is with non stock roms such as cm or aokp.
Please search next time before posting.
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Yep same ole XDA, only asshats with useless negative comments. Thx for the tip op, and type ****-tionary for reminding me why i never visit this hole anymore. Back to the better community on the site that actually gives help instead of "wrong place" remarks.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Oh so clever! I told them that this has been covered. I informed him. Then I also let him know its in the wrong section, as this isn't really dev work, but more of a general thing. I'm sorry I don't have the energy to overly explain things to people every time. You can go to your lollipop forum, and leave the xda. It is not my fault that you took it in a negative way. I was not disrespectful to OP at all. If I was, then OP, I won't apologize because I didn't mean it in that way, but please understand I meant nothing ill by it. I didn't say anything rude to op, or you, to warrant your profane language and negative tone.
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Wait Wait Wait, Would you mind pointing out where this has been covered, I can no longer find the thread. Pls and ty.
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It is in a couple of the threads with stock firmwares. People with 3113 tabs flashed 3100 roms and were delighted to discover IR still working. I don't know the exact thread, but it has been covered already. Again, just letting you know it is old news, and you'll be better off posting this in the general section.
There, was that non ahatish enough? I suppose my thanks count means nada, or the multitudes I've helped via PM and email when nobody else would. Meh.
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Yep same ole XDA, only asshats with useless negative comments. Thx for the tip op, and type ****-tionary for reminding me why i never visit this hole anymore. Back to the better community on the site that actually gives help instead of "wrong place" remarks.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Thank you. Couldn't have said it better myself. Turds.:good:
Ok, I get it, should've gone under general... no need for the 3rd degree, dictionary.
You people are seriously a bunch of wimps if you considered my statements mean or rude. The world has gotten SOFT. I'm done.
the September 18th "leak" fixed the IR issue on the P3113 and any stock based 4.1.1 ROM has since been updated to that base fixing the IR issue, I've been on this section of XDA for less then a month and am aware of this. Perhaps if you have been active here in the last 3 months you might be aware of this. And not being rude but he is right, this is the development section and what you provided belongs on the general section but is frankly unneeded information as it is several months out of date as a proper fix has come out.
You guys seem to have missed the post where I already agreed that this should be under general. Also, I scavenge these forums on a daily basis, If I missed that bit of info where this is already covered, then I missed it's because it was buried in some thread that wasn't specifically covering the topic of the IR port working in non GT-P3113 OEM ROMs. I know a couple of people who've avoided using anything but the stock 4.0.4 simply for fearing the IR port not being able to function.
But that's not the point, not trying to spread old news, just trying to make specific information easier to find, which I believe I've accomplished.
Now if a moderator wants to move/delete this thread, then so be it. I understand this should've gone under general, and I can admit that I put this in the wrong section. That being said, all future posts damning my thread for being in the wrong section, will be considered trolling, which is, of course, not cool.
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You people are seriously a bunch of wimps if you considered my statements mean or rude. The world has gotten SOFT. I'm done.
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Your signature is too long and out of date and so is mine, I'm revising mine, you should do the same.
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You guys seem to have missed the post where I already agreed that this should be under general. Also, I scavenge these forums on a daily basis, If I missed that bit of info where this is already covered, then I missed it's because it was buried in some thread that wasn't specifically covering the topic of the IR port working in non GT-P3113 OEM ROMs. I know a couple of people who've avoided using anything but the stock 4.0.4 simply for fearing the IR port not being able to function.
But that's not the point, not trying to spread old news, just trying to make specific information easier to find, which I believe I've accomplished.
Now if a moderator wants to move/delete this thread, then so be it. I understand this should've gone under general, and I can admit that I put this in the wrong section. That being said, all future posts damning my thread for being in the wrong section, will be considered trolling, which is, of course, not cool.
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Wrong section. . Jk. I was referring to the 3rd degree comment, but I digress. Water under the bridge.
Digital, how did you know my gnex broke!? You're psychic! Though every other device under current I do have, lol. I forgot about sigs since I only browse via tapatalk. Will revise it later. At work now and don't feel like editing on mobile.
I admit in my delightment to discover this by accident I posted hastely. Mayen running a JB ROM finally, the performance boost is quite nice, and of course its a perk to have IR functionality, I use it often.
Sorry to hear about your broken device. I wish you quality, cheap repairs!
Sent from my GT-P3110 using xda app-developers app
mrm0rbid99 said:
Just figured this out totally by accident! I have the U.S. version of the GTab 2 7.0 GT-P3113, otherwise the one that has built in remote control capabilities via IR blaster. Just to let everyone know that if you flash the U.K. version of the JellyBean ROM listed on this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032683, And do so WITHOUT WIPING DATA, while coming from the STOCK 4.0.4 ROM...
YOU WILL RETAIN IR FUNCTIONALITY!!!
Peel, TouchSquid and others that use this IR port will still function.
I hope this helps at least one other person, and always you can click that little ol' ty button if you'd like to.
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just change ur build.prop to say its a P3113
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just change ur build.prop to say its a P3113
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Done, works spledidly. Thanks for the idea.
Hi community, I have a question. Is out there a way to get the sources from novathor? Can we push to ST to release sources?
We can do this with the Xperia P, U and sola users, they want that too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2171038
And is a igloo kernel for our SoC, but I think it is very buggy.
http://www.igloocommunity.org/gitwe...og;h=29a3e1ef73daaa91cbf5cce2fb475f1878254402
And one last thing, I've founded this on Igloo dev section support.
http://www.igloocommunity.org/support/Android_Releases#Jelly_Bean
Is for our SoCs I think.
So can we make a good request to ST or igloo? my idea is to push them to release a consistent source for our SoC.
Any dev or user with time can help me?, I'll find some experience user in Xperia U forum and deliver to him my idea if he want to colaborate.
EDIT: Can we use this SE Novathor U8500 source from CM git to port or build CM for our device?
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/sony-kernel-u8500/tree/jellybean
Lol. You think we don't know about igloo?
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Shaaan said:
Lol. You think we don't know about igloo?
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Sorry, I'm just a noob that has discovered america
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Lol. You think we don't know about igloo?
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Because replying in a friendly fashion is just too mainstream...
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Because replying in a friendly fashion is just too mainstream...
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You guys forgot that in a first time you was a noob user too. If you wanna respect from other "non experienced users", please respect them too.
This forum is not for devs and gods, is for people that deserve a right answer for their questions. Unless obviously disrespectful commit.
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You guys forgot that in a first time you was a noob user too. If you wanna respect from other "non experienced users", please respect them too.
This forum is not for devs and gods, is for people that deserve a right answer for their questions. Unless obviously disrespectful commit.
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Agree with you.....
Samsung Galaxy S Advance
Rom : Jelly Bean 4.1.2 I9070XXLQ4
Kernel: CoCore E-4.4-TWRP
I Am WhAt I Am
First things first! I wasn't rude in my reply. If you felt so, then i am sorry.
d14gvn said:
You guys forgot that in a first time you was a noob user too. If you wanna respect from other "non experienced users", please respect them too.
This forum is not for devs and gods, is for people that deserve a right answer for their questions. Unless obviously disrespectful commit.
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Yes. I was a noob too. But there was a big difference. Every time we even thought about posting a new thread, we used to fear. Every time we tried to kang, we used to take permissions from every person involved. Things were very different back then. People used to read, search! Now i hardly see anyone actually reading or even searching for answers. Want an answer, make a thread. This is what xda has come down to.
This forum is not for devs and gods, is for people that deserve a right answer for their questions.
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Well then i can only say that you haven't understood xda AT ALL.
Xda was made with the main motive for developers to share their work and seek help from other developers. XDA was meant to be a discussion platform.!
Now ask your own self. How many of you follow the forum rules? How many of you actually read!? I generally don't term anyone as a noob. But this forum takes the worst out of me. No matter how many times someone tries to tell something. Some people just fail to understand!
Some people call me Android police. Why? Just because i reciprocate?
I mean look at cocafe or Diego. If you notice carefully, they are slowly abandoning all threads. Now you guys can understand what i am saying!
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First things first! I wasn't rude in my reply. If you felt so, then i am sorry.
Yes. I was a noob too. But there was a big difference. Every time we even thought about posting a new thread, we used to fear. Every time we tried to kang, we used to take permissions from every person involved. Things were very different back then. People used to read, search! Now i hardly see anyone actually reading or even searching for answers. Want an answer, make a thread. This is what xda has come down to.
Well then i can only say that you haven't understood xda AT ALL.
Xda was made with the main motive for developers to share their work and seek help from other developers. XDA was meant to be a discussion platform.!
Now ask your own self. How many of you follow the forum rules? How many of you actually read!? I generally don't term anyone as a noob. But this forum takes the worst out of me. No matter how many times someone tries to tell something. Some people just fail to understand!
Some people call me Android police. Why? Just because i reciprocate?
I mean look at cocafe or Diego. If you notice carefully, they are slowly abandoning all threads. Now you guys can understand what i am saying!
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Dude, I agree with you that XDA was born to be a developer forum and that cocafe and diego are indeed slowly abandoning all threads BUT, when new people start to take interest in this, and I mean real interest, you simply throw some rocks at them! And then they leave too ¬¬
There is simply too much information about Android and sometimes it's practically IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND THEM ALL! I had never heard of igloo before, and when someone gathers a whole bunch of information and asks in the GENERAL section, not the DEV one, about it, you treat as if he was asking how to get JetMod 3 working on JELLY BEAN!!!!
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Dude, I agree with you that XDA was born to be a developer forum and that cocafe and diego are indeed slowly abandoning all threads BUT, when new people start to take interest in this, and I mean real interest, you simply throw some rocks at them! And then they leave too ¬¬
There is simply too much information about Android and sometimes it's practically IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND THEM ALL! I had never heard of igloo before, and when someone gathers a whole bunch of information and asks in the GENERAL section, not the DEV one, about it, you treat as if he was asking how to get JetMod 3 working on JELLY BEAN!!!!
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I already said that i had no intentions of being rude. If i sounded rude, i have already apologized!
And for the record, i do encourage such posts.
Also, a simple search on Google will provide you with the igloo git!
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Shaaan said:
... Also, a simple search on Google will provide you with the igloo git!
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If you do a simple search in GENERAL SECTION about the novathor SoC (I mean discussion to port CM or anything about that)
You will find THIS, THIS, THIS and THIS
And the thread that inspired me to create this one is this thread., that is in another phone section
I didn't find a proper discussion thread about that so I created one, did you see a genuine discussion thread about de NT SoC and a discussion to find a way to get all the proper drivers for the SoC on JB? In xda general, questions you will don't find it.
Do you think that is a noob way to explain a situation and make some questions to get opinions?
Finnaly, in this thread Shaaan, the first post can be an example for you, that guy was respectful.
I can understand that you find all of those information months (even years) ago, but if you don't publish that, we will don't know that you have knowloedge about that stuff.
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Signed !
Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9070
Sooo.. im still in same position that i believe that some threads have to be open only for devs and give for one or two users (shut_down is the best example) the info, releases, changes, etc. to be posted in general section for the rest of users. That is the best way to separate the devs works in one place and the rest of users in other place because leaves a good workspace for devs without noobs interrumpting..
I will sign when arrive home, im on bus now and its hard with the extra full people capacity in it..
Enviado desde mi GT-I9070 usando Tapatalk 2
Signed :thumbup:
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I rofl'd .
I can't believe there someone more sensitive than me
Don't rail at me when I make mistakes, I'm a sensitive guy and there's a high chance I might turn unstable.
Signed. Might help the Ace II community.
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when new people start to take interest in this, and I mean real interest, you simply throw some rocks at them! And then they leave too ¬¬
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I will throw rocks. Only the person who can come out successfully out of it can do some valuable contribution to the community! If a person leaves developing just because he was flamed, then he wasn't destined to be a dev at the first place!
Don't get me wrong here, but if you really want to do something for the community, this is the way to go.
I am what i am (no matter how small i am, but i think i have earned atleast 2% of respect on xda), because people threw rocks at me when i was new. That is the hard way of learning, but it is the best one.
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back at the topic guys. i am a user of xperia sola that uses the novathor u8500 soc and i created that petition. we need to fight and get those sources atleast the essential ones.
if we dont have those source, chances are we will be stuck at 4.1. i was contacted by a person working at novathor on google+. i was dealing with him. he kept telling us about the igloo community and snowball board, i told him they arent of help. he said he would sound the insiders regarding our situation. no response yet :\. need your support too.
srprashant91 said:
back at the topic guys. i am a user of xperia sola that uses the novathor u8500 soc and i created that petition. we need to fight and get those sources atleast the essential ones.
if we dont have those source, chances are we will be stuck at 4.1. i was contacted by a person working at novathor on google+. i was dealing with him. he kept telling us about the igloo community and snowball board, i told him they arent of help. he said he would sound the insiders regarding our situation. no response yet :\. need your support too.
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Just signing a petition won't help. Get the devs involved. And mean all devs working on STE UX500
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STE Novathor U8500 Sources
STE novathor u8500 sources
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2625365
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49799159&postcount=149
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My galaxy nexus will continue running CyanogenMod for losing surport of OmniRom nightly build.
As CM11.0 is becoming more and more stable,I believe the nightly will coming soon.
We are gutted.
CM Nightlies arent our yet and IT IS BECOMING MORE N MORE STABLE :banghead:
What wait?
So OMNIROM no longer pledge support for Gnex?
Was looking for a 4.4 Kitkat rom from omni guess not...
No maintainer has a Galaxy Nexus. Give us a Galaxy Nexus (or find a maintainer with a Galaxy Nexus), and you'll have 4.4 nightlies.
XpLoDWilD said:
No maintainer has a Galaxy Nexus. Give us a Galaxy Nexus (or find a maintainer with a Galaxy Nexus), and you'll have 4.4 nightlies.
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Ahhh but does that totally rule out Omni for Gnex?
In terms of the final 4.4 release?
qf19910623 said:
My galaxy nexus will continue running CyanogenMod for losing surport of OmniRom nightly build.
As CM11.0 is becoming more and more stable,I believe the nightly will coming soon.
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I'm horrified at how many gnex users whine about omni not having a maintainer... Let all the whiners go to CM, good riddance. If all of you gnex users put as much energy in learning to maintain your own device as you do complaining, you'd probably have a stable release by now.
King p1n said:
Ahhh but does that totally rule out Omni for Gnex?
In terms of the final 4.4 release?
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Blind development is impossible. The device won't be supported until someone from the community steps up and supports it.
There might be an existing maintainer with some spare bandwidth to support one of the gnex variants if provided a device - I personally don't have the time for it.
karendar said:
I'm horrified at how many gnex users whine about omni not having a maintainer... Let all the whiners go to CM, good riddance. If all of you gnex users put as much energy in learning to maintain your own device as you do complaining, you'd probably have a stable release by now.
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Yup. The best way to get a device supported is to work in it yourself!
Entropy512 said:
Yup. The best way to get a device supported is to work in it yourself!
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... or donate one to a developer.
I personally never understood all these demands to ROM developers. It's not like we're paying them to do it and support it or anything. Must be the new entitlement generation... (Generation E, if you will).
rodrigorajao said:
... or donate one to a developer.
I personally never understood all these demands to ROM developers. It's not like we're paying them to do it and support it or anything. Must be the new entitlement generation... (Generation E, if you will).
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People learning a new skill is by far the better way IMO.
By donating devices to someone, you:
1) Potentially eliminate the opportunity for someone else to do the bringup and gain skills
2) Potentially cause that developer to burn out in the long run - that is why I personally won't be taking on any additional devices for quite a while. I'm spread way too thin as it is.
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karendar said:
I'm horrified at how many gnex users whine about omni not having a maintainer... Let all the whiners go to CM, good riddance. If all of you gnex users put as much energy in learning to maintain your own device as you do complaining, you'd probably have a stable release by now.
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u know one thing that all the developers who know how to develop the roms never help newbies...
i have personally asked how to integrate the custom kernel source to the android source code...nobody helped..
even i asked that person who created that kernel and builds rom using that kernel...so how u expect from us to maintain our own devices...
i m sick of these persons who donot share knowledge...
anurag.dev1512 said:
u know one thing that all the developers who know how to develop the roms never help newbies...
i have personally asked how to integrate the custom kernel source to the android source code...nobody helped..
even i asked that person who created that kernel and builds rom using that kernel...so how u expect from us to maintain our own devices...
i m sick of these persons who donot share knowledge...
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Google is ur friend my dear friend.. There are several tutorials that would help u to help build kernels n roms from source...
anurag.dev1512 said:
u know one thing that all the developers who know how to develop the roms never help newbies...
i have personally asked how to integrate the custom kernel source to the android source code...nobody helped..
even i asked that person who created that kernel and builds rom using that kernel...so how u expect from us to maintain our own devices...
i m sick of these persons who donot share knowledge...
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How do you think we learned ROM development?
anurag.dev1512 said:
u know one thing that all the developers who know how to develop the roms never help newbies...
i have personally asked how to integrate the custom kernel source to the android source code...nobody helped..
even i asked that person who created that kernel and builds rom using that kernel...so how u expect from us to maintain our own devices...
i m sick of these persons who donot share knowledge...
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And I'm sick of people being lazy, so...
If developers on here took the time to help every newbie out there, they wouldn't have any time to do what they do FOR FREE. Yes, you read that right. FREE. The real devs don't ask for donations. The real devs do this on their spare time, out of sheer devotion to the device and the technology. Not because some guy in the boondocks is requesting a feature or a bug fix. They all learned the hard way and SOME do give their time... And their knowledge. They just do it in a strategic way: By documenting on knowledgebases, wikis, articles, forums, etc.
So learn to google, learn to search, learn to learn. That's the TRUE spirit of XDA right there... Not what some of the forums are becoming: Harassment from impatient users who want it all right now for nothing. No offense intended, but "newbs" are only newbs because they choose to be. All the necessary information is out there. And if it's not, and you can show a proper breadcrumb of what you've done to get there, some dev somewhere can see the effort and help out. MAYBE.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to repo sync.
BAM.
karendar said:
And I'm sick of people being lazy, so...
If developers on here took the time to help every newbie out there, they wouldn't have any time to do what they do FOR FREE. Yes, you read that right. FREE. The real devs don't ask for donations. The real devs do this on their spare time, out of sheer devotion to the device and the technology. Not because some guy in the boondocks is requesting a feature or a bug fix. They all learned the hard way and SOME do give their time... And their knowledge. They just do it in a strategic way: By documenting on knowledgebases, wikis, articles, forums, etc.
So learn to google, learn to search, learn to learn. That's the TRUE spirit of XDA right there... Not what some of the forums are becoming: Harassment from impatient users who want it all right now for nothing. No offense intended, but "newbs" are only newbs because they choose to be. All the necessary information is out there. And if it's not, and you can show a proper breadcrumb of what you've done to get there, some dev somewhere can see the effort and help out. MAYBE.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to repo sync.
BAM.
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I've answered tons of questions in IRC... I've documented as much as I can why particular changes are made. However, there's a category of questions that fall into "handholding" because they're easily Googleable, or they are related to skills which can't be easily taught - they can only be learned by doing.
The problem is that every device is different, and the things you need to do in order to get one working are different for every device. If someone has a weird issue and a really esoteric log entry, then it's valid to ask if anyone has seen something similar (although you should Google first).
Learning to be a device maintainer is a long and difficult and frustrating process. Even if you're very experienced and familiar with Android, it requires immense amounts of patience and tons of time reading source code and reading through commit logs. There's no easy step-by-step recipe - it's all about developing troubleshooting and analysis skills, and those are best learned by doing.
Now there are some developers who do a poor job of documenting things - commit messages that are completely uninformative, unrelated changes made in a single commit, etc. - Most contributors to our gerrit know that such practices are a good way to get a -1 from me. (See my sig for a link to some general good practices...)
just listen....
tilal6991 said:
How do you think we learned ROM development?
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i m not asking for help...
i m just trying to show the true face of senior developers...thats all...
first read my reply i havent mentioned that i need help in rom development...i just told the things happened with me...
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karendar said:
And I'm sick of people being lazy, so...
If developers on here took the time to help every newbie out there, they wouldn't have any time to do what they do FOR FREE. Yes, you read that right. FREE. The real devs don't ask for donations. The real devs do this on their spare time, out of sheer devotion to the device and the technology. Not because some guy in the boondocks is requesting a feature or a bug fix. They all learned the hard way and SOME do give their time... And their knowledge. They just do it in a strategic way: By documenting on knowledgebases, wikis, articles, forums, etc.
So learn to google, learn to search, learn to learn. That's the TRUE spirit of XDA right there... Not what some of the forums are becoming: Harassment from impatient users who want it all right now for nothing. No offense intended, but "newbs" are only newbs because they choose to be. All the necessary information is out there. And if it's not, and you can show a proper breadcrumb of what you've done to get there, some dev somewhere can see the effort and help out. MAYBE.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to repo sync.
BAM.
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i m not asking for help...
i m just trying to show the true face of senior developers...thats all...
first read my reply i havent mentioned that i need help in rom development...i just told the things happened with me...
Entropy512 said:
I've answered tons of questions in IRC... I've documented as much as I can why particular changes are made. However, there's a category of questions that fall into "handholding" because they're easily Googleable, or they are related to skills which can't be easily taught - they can only be learned by doing.
The problem is that every device is different, and the things you need to do in order to get one working are different for every device. If someone has a weird issue and a really esoteric log entry, then it's valid to ask if anyone has seen something similar (although you should Google first).
Learning to be a device maintainer is a long and difficult and frustrating process. Even if you're very experienced and familiar with Android, it requires immense amounts of patience and tons of time reading source code and reading through commit logs. There's no easy step-by-step recipe - it's all about developing troubleshooting and analysis skills, and those are best learned by doing.
Now there are some developers who do a poor job of documenting things - commit messages that are completely uninformative, unrelated changes made in a single commit, etc. - Most contributors to our gerrit know that such practices are a good way to get a -1 from me. (See my sig for a link to some general good practices...)
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Honestly Entropy, you're one of the developers which I love following in the forums. Your interventions are always informative, you've got a great logic and even though sometimes you can be quite prompt in your way of answering, it's always justified. I have no doubt that you've helped many people and I'm sure your approach is always a "teach a man to fish" approach. I respect you very much, as I do other developers of similar nature, and I felt you should know this. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to reading other post from you.
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anurag.dev1512 said:
i m not asking for help...
i m just trying to show the true face of senior developers...thats all...
first read my reply i havent mentioned that i need help in rom development...i just told the things happened with me...
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You haven't taken the time to read what I've written. Don't generalize and re-read what I've said and what Entropy said...
This is the last intervention I'll do on this thread, as the point is now moot.
ya i know..
karendar said:
Honestly Entropy, you're one of the developers which I love following in the forums. Your interventions are always informative, you've got a great logic and even though sometimes you can be quite prompt in your way of answering, it's always justified. I have no doubt that you've helped many people and I'm sure your approach is always a "teach a man to fish" approach. I respect you very much, as I do other developers of similar nature, and I felt you should know this. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to reading other post from you.
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You haven't taken the time to read what I've written. Don't generalize and re-read what I've said and what Entropy said...
This is the last intervention I'll do on this thread, as the point is now moot.
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its really hard to see your true self...
anurag.dev1512 said:
i m not asking for help...
i m just trying to show the true face of senior developers...thats all...
first read my reply i havent mentioned that i need help in rom development...i just told the things happened with me...
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i m not asking for help...
i m just trying to show the true face of senior developers...thats all...
first read my reply i havent mentioned that i need help in rom development...i just told the things happened with me...
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anurag.dev1512 said:
u know one thing that all the developers who know how to develop the roms never help newbies...
i have personally asked how to integrate the custom kernel source to the android source code...nobody helped..
even i asked that person who created that kernel and builds rom using that kernel...so how u expect from us to maintain our own devices...
i m sick of these persons who donot share knowledge...
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I'm not a dev, but I would think statements like this really discourage them.
I do have a GNex that I haven't had luck selling. Was thinking about donating to Omni devs since they don't seem to have one. However, am having second thoughts if it makes it seem like people who whine and complain get what they want because they whine and complain.
@ Devs: PM me if you are interested in me sending a Verizon GNex to you for ROM development.
anurag.dev1512 said:
its really hard to see your true self...
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Truer words have never been spoken.
Now please discontinue your whine, women & song and leave.
Now that this Rom/Mod is gone, what will you switch to? this was the first rom I used where EVERYTHING worked 100%...Now what? What is the closest thing that runs like stock with the nice extras?
thoughts?
Don't know, hopefully it will resurface before the next Android update.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
Waiting for the next Google OTA and flash only system. Only Stock or Cataclysm, nothing else is not an option for me. Unfortunately!
Maybe, it'll be return in a big way.
Hm, I just saw what happened to the ROM. That's unfortunate what happened because ultimately the users and the developer lose out. His critics really lose nothing by him leaving.
At any rate, I made a nandroid in case it gets revisited, but I wiped the ROM and using a different one.
mikeprius said:
Hm, I just saw what happened to the ROM. That's unfortunate what happened because ultimately the users and the developer lose out. His critics really lose nothing by him leaving.
At any rate, I made a nandroid in case it gets revisited, but I wiped the ROM and using a different one.
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what did you switch to? how is it?
I think it's either staying at latest cataclysm (which works great) or going stock + xposed and gravity box
Probably switch back to stock and deal with xposed.
What exactly happened? I'd like to save the effort of post hunting.
nixie2121 said:
what did you switch to? how is it?
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I've used Pure Nexus and Chroma. Both are very similar. Kinda like Ford or Chevy, it's personal taste. Both are good but they are custom so Android Pay will not work.
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blanco2701 said:
I think it's either staying at latest cataclysm (which works great) or going stock + xposed and gravity box
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I like Cataclysm due to Android Pay working. Outside of that, I'd rather do a complete custom ROM.
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StykerB said:
Probably switch back to stock and deal with xposed.
What exactly happened? I'd like to save the effort of post hunting.
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Someone accused the developer of not releasing code or something to that extent so his thread was moved from "Android Original Development" to "Android Development". He probably got angry and asked the mods to close the thread. It's too bad he let them get under his skin, but I can see how it would be frustrating.
StykerB said:
Probably switch back to stock and deal with xposed.
What exactly happened? I'd like to save the effort of post hunting.
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I tried to post hunt to see what happened and couldn't find anything. So sad. This was best ROM I've ever used on N6. I have bookmarked page on AFH and will check periodically. Beyond that, if nothing after February Google update I will be forced to find another. So frustrating to not know what happened.
wtherrell said:
I tried to post hunt to see what happened and couldn't find anything. So sad. This was best ROM I've ever used on N6. I have bookmarked page on AFH and will check periodically. Beyond that, if nothing after February Google update I will be forced to find another. So frustrating to not know what happened.
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mikeprius said:
I've used Pure Nexus and Chroma. Both are very similar. Kinda like Ford or Chevy, it's personal taste. Both are good but they are custom so Android Pay will not work.
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I like Cataclysm due to Android Pay working. Outside of that, I'd rather do a complete custom ROM.
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Someone accused the developer of not releasing code or something to that extent so his thread was moved from "Android Original Development" to "Android Development". He probably got angry and asked the mods to close the thread. It's too bad he let them get under his skin, but I can see how it would be frustrating.
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There is a populace here in XDA that doesn't/didn't like that he got too keep his rom in original development sections without releasing sources whereas many other devs had to keep proving to XDA mods that they have actually written their stuff and not just kanged it from another rom.
And as a result he was time again asked by various users to release his sources to prove that he didn't kang his stuff from other roms.
The additions he had in Cataclysm could certainly be found in other roms and earlier too but perhaps not in the same implement or even code. Or perhaps it was all copied. We'll probably never know now that he got fed up and left.
A fact is though that much of what XDA is now is based on being open source (if SuperSU isn't counted) so I do think all devs deserve the same treatment. If some have to publish their sources, then others should too.
As a matter I think it's best left at these facts without any more unnecessary drama.
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And back on topic. Both Pure Nexus and Chroma are good alternatives for users looking at a near-stock experience with some modifications.
wtherrell said:
I tried to post hunt to see what happened and couldn't find anything. So sad. This was best ROM I've ever used on N6. I have bookmarked page on AFH and will check periodically. Beyond that, if nothing after February Google update I will be forced to find another. So frustrating to not know what happened.
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If you read this you will understand:
1 - Apparently, some developers agreed with what's published here: https://plus.google.com/+AlexCruz/posts/FVbxmtyop7W
2- Yesterday, atl4ntis nexus 6 thread got moved to the android development section.
3- He immediately asked for his threads to get closed.
4- He published this on his pushbullet
"Cataclysm development halted indefinitely
Dear users, after spending over four years on this project almost daily, apparently i'm still questioned over the originality of it.
I came to the conclusion that this is not fun anymore and i don't really deserve this attitude, so i've decided to spend my time on something else from now on.
If you feel offended by this decision and you've donated in the past 2-3 months (unfortunately paypal logs don't go over), feel free to send me the transaction id and i'll charge it back, like already did for the donations received today to cheer me up.
Thank you for the great moments spent together.
Cheers, atl4ntis."
That's it, sadly.
His work was ORIGINAL, if anyone doubts that they are new or frankly idiots or have a vendetta. There is no requirement on XDA to open source your work.
I hope people who hounded him and forced his thread to be moved are happy. It is a ridiculous thing to happen to by far the most popular rom for Nexus by a very respected dev.
XDA mods should really take a close look at this whole mess and rectify it, no one wins in the end.
blanco2701 said:
If you read this you will understand:
1 - Apparently, some developers agreed with what's published here: https://plus.google.com/+AlexCruz/posts/FVbxmtyop7W
2- Yesterday, atl4ntis nexus 6 thread got moved to the android development section.
3- He immediately asked for his threads to get closed.
4- He published this on his pushbullet
"Cataclysm development halted indefinitely
Dear users, after spending over four years on this project almost daily, apparently i'm still questioned over the originality of it.
I came to the conclusion that this is not fun anymore and i don't really deserve this attitude, so i've decided to spend my time on something else from now on.
If you feel offended by this decision and you've donated in the past 2-3 months (unfortunately paypal logs don't go over), feel free to send me the transaction id and i'll charge it back, like already did for the donations received today to cheer me up.
Thank you for the great moments spent together.
Cheers, atl4ntis."
That's it, sadly.
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Thanks for the info. Guess I'll just be shopping for a new rom. This was one of only 2 roms I found on which my "Dock Clock Plus" app would work.
Also liked the aroma installer.
Oh, well.
ECrispy said:
His work was ORIGINAL, if anyone doubts that they are new or frankly idiots or have a vendetta. There is no requirement on XDA to open source your work.
I hope people who hounded him and forced his thread to be moved are happy. It is a ridiculous thing to happen to by far the most popular rom for Nexus by a very respected dev.
XDA mods should really take a close look at this whole mess and rectify it, no one wins in the end.
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Not really much point going into this. Whether his work was original or nothing doesn't even matter.
Fact is that he got treated differently than other "original devs" and fact is that because of this he got bothered almost as long as he released his rom.
He finally got enough and that's the end of that. Further drama won't do anything good.
According to @Neo, Original Development sections are being taken down anyway, if I understood his post correctly.
It's a shame..... Cata was the best way to go for me, too.
now without cataclysm we got only one option is left. EXPOSED FRAMEWORK and MODULES. individual module for individual features.
Anyone know how to leave cataclysm for stock rooted rom without full wipe? Can i just flash over it?
Does OK Google work perfectly on these (pure and chroma)? screen off in the car... I always had trouble with it on AOSP, not on cat though!
ECrispy said:
His work was ORIGINAL, if anyone doubts that they are new or frankly idiots or have a vendetta. There is no requirement on XDA to open source your work.
I hope people who hounded him and forced his thread to be moved are happy. It is a ridiculous thing to happen to by far the most popular rom for Nexus by a very respected dev.
XDA mods should really take a close look at this whole mess and rectify it, no one wins in the end.
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We already have taken a closer look at this. Now while as already stated Og Dev and Android dev having separate forums is over. All new devices will only have one section.
Now we will not talk about this but the dev has been given plenty of chances to that the rom was indeed OG development. (no XDA doesnt require the rom to be open source) The issue with that is without it being open source there is no way to prove that any work is OG development.
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