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XT1068 How To Downgrade Lollipop 5.0 Kitkat?

Welcome!
Would like to come back to the KitKat. Current firmware: 5.0.2
How is it possible?

Vappalika said:
Welcome!
Would like to come back to the KitKat. Current firmware: 5.0.2
How is it possible?
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Use your backup (you made one right?)
or http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/windows-tool-moto-g-2014-xt1068-dual-t2983295
i have gone up , down and sideways betweeen 4.4.4 and 5.0.2, with these, 1 thing to note updates may be done with locked bootloader, BUT downgrades require unlocked bootloader.

[Q] Anyone downgraded from 5.0.2. to 4.4.4

Hello, I have upgraded to 5.0.2. via OTA a few days ago. My phone was RetEU .23, and the update notification that 5.0.2. became so annoying, so I decided to give it a shot. Lollipop is a disappointment for me, battery drain issues, lagging all over the menus, slow dialer, the phone was running better with KK installed, so I want to return back to 4.4.4.
Unfortunately there is no clear opinion whether this could be done, some say that when you have 5.0.2. bootloader installed with the OTA, you cannot go back, others say that it is no problem to do so. Really confusing.
Anyone tried to go back to 4.4.4. after getting the OTA? Could you please share how did you do so? Unlocking the bootloader and flashing one of the 4.4.4 stock ROMs from the General Section?

dub_1 said:
Hello, I have upgraded to 5.0.2. via OTA a few days ago. My phone was RetEU .23, and the update notification that 5.0.2. became so annoying, so I decided to give it a shot. Lollipop is a disappointment for me, battery drain issues, lagging all over the menus, slow dialer, the phone was running better with KK installed, so I want to return back to 4.4.4.
Unfortunately there is no clear opinion whether this could be done, some say that when you have 5.0.2. bootloader installed with the OTA, you cannot go back, others say that it is no problem to do so. Really confusing.
Anyone tried to go back to 4.4.4. after getting the OTA? Could you please share how did you do so? Unlocking the bootloader and flashing one of the 4.4.4 stock ROMs from the General Section?
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Hello,
i actually switched from 5.0.2 back to KK 4.4.4 from Pizza_dox
when your bootloader is unlocked and you have TWRP installed
follow these instructions
1, go do a factory reset
2, go to advanced wipe and select :dalvik cache/system/data/internal storage/cache
when you did that there is no system on your phone so when you restart you will be going into an endless bootloop.
3, go press install and select the Microkat.zip file from Pizza_Dox
when that is done you have agian kitkat on your device
i think there some other methods but this is how i did it succesfully.
Also dont forget to make a backup because you will lose everything.

Gerriitw said:
Hello,
i actually switched from 5.0.2 back to KK 4.4.4 from Pizza_dox
when your bootloader is unlocked and you have TWRP installed
follow these instructions
1, go do a factory reset
2, go to advanced wipe and select :dalvik cache/system/data/internal storage/cache
when you did that there is no system on your phone so when you restart you will be going into an endless bootloop.
3, go press install and select the Microkat.zip file from Pizza_Dox
when that is done you have agian kitkat on your device
i think there some other methods but this is how i did it succesfully.
Also dont forget to make a backup because you will lose everything.
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Thanks for your comment. I actually plan to go back to the stock 4.4.4. I have a basic idea of bootloader and things but not deep into this and have never done it before. From what I have read , I will have to:
1. First I need to unlock the bootloader, as per the instructions in the Moto website.
2. Then I will need to do a factory reset. (settings-secuirity-factory reset or some other way of doing this?)
3. Download 4.4.4 firmware + script.
4. Start up with Power+VolDown buttons and have bootloader menu on screen
5. Run the downloaded script from its .bat file.
6. Wait for some time for the flashing to end, then have stock 4.4.4
Please correct me if something is wrong or missed.

dub_1 said:
Thanks for your comment. I actually plan to go back to the stock 4.4.4. I have a basic idea of bootloader and things but not deep into this and have never done it before. From what I have read , I will have to:
1. First I need to unlock the bootloader, as per the instructions in the Moto website.
2. Then I will need to do a factory reset. (settings-secuirity-factory reset or some other way of doing this?)
3. Download 4.4.4 firmware + script.
4. Start up with Power+VolDown buttons and have bootloader menu on screen
5. Run the downloaded script from its .bat file.
6. Wait for some time for the flashing to end, then have stock 4.4.4
Please correct me if something is wrong or missed.
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What i did...
Download the correct kk stock rom
Setup my drivers and mfastboot correctly (simple fast boot works too)
Unlocked bootloader. (Voids warranty coz gives bootloader status 3)
Reboot in bootloader now...
Flash all files of kitkat except gpt.bin and motoboot.bin (they never flash for me lol )
Flash all other files (i typed filenames manually)
Fastboot reboot
Ps - no matter what i do..i have not been able to lock my bootloader once i downgraded from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4
Locking bootloader works well on 5.0.2

doctor_droid said:
What i did...
Download the correct kk stock rom
Setup my drivers and mfastboot correctly (simple fast boot works too)
Unlocked bootloader. (Voids warranty coz gives bootloader status 3)
Reboot in bootloader now...
Flash all files of kitkat except gpt.bin and motoboot.bin (they never flash for me lol )
Flash all other files (i typed filenames manually)
Fastboot reboot
Ps - no matter what i do..i have not been able to lock my bootloader once i downgraded from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4
Locking bootloader works well on 5.0.2
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well guess im gonna try - but no need to do, as makes no difference except to downgrading.... So best off unlocked
simply use the 4.4.4 link in my signature and pick firmware 2 or B called DSDSALL to go back to 4.4.4 .23 ret(xx)

So, it has been confirmed by several forums that when you have officially received the 5.0.2 OTA download update, you cannot go back to KK.
It has something to do with the new L bootloader. I guess that there is no way of doing this, up to now at least. Don't know if someone has tried and succeeded.
When you have flashed the 5.0.2. OTA however, you can have KK installed back, as most of the users on xda.

dub_1 said:
So, it has been confirmed by several forums that when you have officially received the 5.0.2 OTA download update, you cannot go back to KK. FALSE
It has something to do with the new L bootloader. I guess that there is no way of doing this, up to now at least. Don't know if someone has tried and succeeded. FALSE
When you have flashed the 5.0.2. OTA however, you can have KK installed back, as most of the users on xda.
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YES you can install kitkat see my signature you NEED a unlocked boot loader
I have been up / down and sideways with ALL 4 versions ( 3 kitkat 1 Lollipop) of XT1068 firmware 50+ installs , a few soft bricks - also installed a few custom roms - gone back to lollipop and kitkat from these too.
see my signature for 4.4.4 and 5.0.2 firmware xt1068

reefuge said:
YES you can install kitkat see my signature you NEED a unlocked boot loader
I have been up / down and sideways with ALL 4 versions ( 3 kitkat 1 Lollipop) of XT1068 firmware 50+ installs , a few soft bricks - also installed a few custom roms - gone back to lollipop and kitkat from these too.
see my signature for 4.4.4 and 5.0.2 firmware xt1068
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Cheers mate. Already installed stock 4.4.4.
Does it make sense to relock the bootloader?

dub_1 said:
Cheers mate. Already installed stock 4.4.4.
Does it make sense to relock the bootloader?
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no absolutely not....... boot logo warning still comes up ...warranty still void and strangely if been to 5.0.2 and back to 4.4.4 it wont relock
but you can relock if on 5.0.2

Successful downgrade from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4
Dear All,
Pls help me in downgrading from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4 on my XT1068 Dual Sim Indian Version.
I need to know whether we can return to 4.4.4 without unlocking bootloader and is rooting needed.
Pls let me know your experience in a noob friendly way.
TIA... :angel:

dub_1 said:
Cheers mate. Already installed stock 4.4.4.
Does it make sense to relock the bootloader?
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What exactly did you do? His signature is gone...

Help! How to downgrade from marshmallow ( nexus experience rom) to lollipop (stock ro

Can anyone pls tel how do i downgrade from marshmallow 6.0.1 to lollipop 5.0.2?
Currently my bootloader version is 48.83. I dnt remember what it was on lollipop. Pls help!

Just use your backup that you made prior to upgrading to Marshmallow. If you don't have the backup, just flash a different ROM. Plenty of guides on the site.

spetrie said:
Just use your backup that you made prior to upgrading to Marshmallow. If you don't have the backup, just flash a different ROM. Plenty of guides on the site.
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I have made the backup. But i have heard about many people hard bricking the phone when trying to downgrade and then again upgrading via ota. Thats why i askd.

If u are on custom rom other than motorola marshmallow soak test ota.. you will not get ur phone bricked when downgrading. Hard brick occurs if u downgrad from soak test ota to lollipop. In your case u just need to flash retaildsdsall firmware via fastboot mood. Search for tutorials for reverting to stoc 5.0.2.

Just DON'T CHANGE BOOTLOADER. You shouldn't be able to downgrade bootloaders but Motorola screwed that and with M bootloader you "can" downgrade, but bootloader downgrade results in BRICK. Just flash the rom you want, EXCEPT THE BOOTLOADER. For custom roms you shouldn't have problems.

gauravrai said:
If u are on custom rom other than motorola marshmallow soak test ota.. you will not get ur phone bricked when downgrading. Hard brick occurs if u downgrad from soak test ota to lollipop. In your case u just need to flash retaildsdsall firmware via fastboot mood. Search for tutorials for reverting to stoc 5.0.2.
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I have made a nandroid backup. Currently m on nexus experience rom. One of my friend was in resurrection remix (marshmallow) he faced some bugs so he came back to lollipop. It worked fine for him. But when he tried to flash the soak test ota, he hard bricked his phone... Why did that happen??

rcoacci said:
Just DON'T CHANGE BOOTLOADER. You shouldn't be able to downgrade bootloaders but Motorola screwed that and with M bootloader you "can" downgrade, but bootloader downgrade results in BRICK. Just flash the rom you want, EXCEPT THE BOOTLOADER. For custom roms you shouldn't have problems.
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Currently my bootloader versuon is 48.83
What is the version on lollipop? Bootloader dsnt change on flashing roms ryt?

sumedhs said:
I have made the backup. But i have heard about many people hard bricking the phone when trying to downgrade and then again upgrading via ota. Thats why i askd.
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All I can say is that I was on Nexus Experience 10.0.4 (Marshmallow) but could not get adopted storage to work so restored my previous AOSP lollipop ROM from TWRP backup and no issues. My Bootloader is 48.82. I have never used the soak test version or OTA version of marshmallow.
I have also in the past restored stock lollipop V5.0.2 from other lollipop versions with no issues.

rcoacci said:
Just DON'T CHANGE BOOTLOADER. You shouldn't be able to downgrade bootloaders but Motorola screwed that and with M bootloader you "can" downgrade, but bootloader downgrade results in BRICK. Just flash the rom you want, EXCEPT THE BOOTLOADER. For custom roms you shouldn't have problems.
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which files or command to skip in this process

if u use L ROM then this one is the latest or last update of L ROM and i have used many days.........and its good.....its CM based LINK or If u like a pure Stock L ROM with Optimized then here it goes LINK

ezio1723 said:
which files or command to skip in this process
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Same question here as well. Which command flashes the bootloader, so that I can skip them

rebzin said:
Same question here as well. Which command flashes the bootloader, so that I can skip them
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you can use easyinstaller file it will automatically flashes the files

My bootloader is 0×4887 I am running a stock mm and I wud like to downgrade to lollipop to use the stellar kernel way shud I do...???pls help
Just a noobie....
Sry if tat was bad English..!!

Just don't downgrade your Bootloader and you should be fine, if you're using an easyinstaller script to flash stock Lollipop make sure and remove the lines of code that flash motoboot.img & I'd also recommend removing the line that flashes gpt.bin to be safe.

Has anyone confirmed downgrade from MM?

As the thread states....has anyone tried to flash stock DOK2 firmware from the new MM update? I have searched and asked many questions but have not gotten a solid answer. And if no one knows or no one has tried yet, would someone who had already taken the update be willing to try flashing stock DOK2 firmware? For developmental purposes. Thanks in advance. ?

Anyone got root for Marshmallow?

viewsfromthepi said:
Anyone got root for Marshmallow?
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Root works perfectly fine. Use SuperSu Systemless root. I believe the version number is 2.74-2. It's the latest beta if I'm not mistaken.
First use ODIN to get TWRP onto the device and then flash the supersu zip like usual.

I was thinking of just using flashfire to flash BL and modem only then install the rom..that way it doesnt overwrite recovery... bad idea ?

noob4598 said:
I was thinking of just using flashfire to flash BL and modem only then install the rom..that way it doesnt overwrite recovery... bad idea ?
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Yes, bad idea. No shortcuts on base updates.
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noob4598 said:
As the thread states....has anyone tried to flash stock DOK2 firmware from the new MM update? I have searched and asked many questions but have not gotten a solid answer. And if no one knows or no one has tried yet, would someone who had already taken the update be willing to try flashing stock DOK2 firmware? For developmental purposes. Thanks in advance. ?
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I was able to downgrade to DOK2 but I only flashed the bootloader & modem file not the entire firmware

If you flashed BL then we are good. I wonder if the MM bootloader is like n910G.....they couldn't go from 5.1.1 to 4.4.4 but when they got 6.0.1 they were able to got back 2 steps to 4.4.4.like a magical BL unlock ha

xoxo_xdagirl91 said:
I was able to downgrade to DOK2 but I only flashed the bootloader & modem file not the entire firmware
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What files did you use? I tried flashing the entire dok2 firmware through Odin and kept getting stuck in a bootloop. If I could just flash those 2 files that would be great.
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nymikey said:
What files did you use? I tried flashing the entire dok2 firmware through Odin and kept getting stuck in a bootloop. If I could just flash those 2 files that would be great.
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DOK2 Bootloader: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24269982087008410
DOK2 Modem: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24269982087008409
I used odin 3.11.1: http://dl.sammobile.com/Odin3-v3.11.1.zip
put the bootloader in the BL section & the modem in the CP section of odin

xoxo_xdagirl91 said:
DOK2 Bootloader: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24269982087008410
DOK2 Modem: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24269982087008409
I used odin 3.11.1: http://dl.sammobile.com/Odin3-v3.11.1.zip
put the bootloader in the BL section & the modem in the CP section of odin
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Thanks, I'm gonna give this a try.
Sent from my SM-N910T using XDA-Developers mobile app

I have downgraded from a full PE3 to OK2. Worked fine.

Awesome...that makes me feel safer...I might try to odin nk4 later just for ships and giggles haha

does anyone know if you can downgrade from MM PE3 to KK ANK4? I know that you can't go from DOK2 to ANK4. Love firekat too much

noob4598 said:
If you flashed BL then we are good. I wonder if the MM bootloader is like n910G.....they couldn't go from 5.1.1 to 4.4.4 but when they got 6.0.1 they were able to got back 2 steps to 4.4.4.like a magical BL unlock ha
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Someone needs to try this ASAP.

Karina Kapri said:
Someone needs to try this ASAP.
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I had a T-mobile Note 4 (N910T) on 5.0.1 , downgraded to KitKat 4.4.4, when Lolipop 5.1.1 came out I upgraded. rooted, and then flashed custom rom Tekxodus .. phone used to restart randomly .. later discovered that once you upgrade OK2 you get locked and no longer can downgrade to KK.
later on, the phone started to give mmc error and then just died.
Lesson Learned, stay on 5.0.1 or downgrade to 4.4.4 and stay there.
I still wonder if Android 6.0.1 Locks down the downgrade process to 4.4.4. I doubt it will allow it.

DeeXii said:
I have downgraded from a full PE3 to OK2. Worked fine.
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Ok. You just downgrade, but I have a question.
After you flashed BL and CS, you still have to flash the firmware, right? So, I have to have the firmware OK2 too, right?

Chrisayami said:
Ok. You just downgrade, but I have a question.
After you flashed BL and CS, you still have to flash the firmware, right? So, I have to have the firmware OK2 too, right?
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im also waiting for this reply hehehe...

SeerePetrova said:
im also waiting for this reply hehehe...
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Yea if you want everything to be OK2 but its not necessary....if you are gonna use twrp, u dont need to odin recovery....and if you are gonna use a custom rom instead of stock then you dont need to odin system...so basically anyone with twrp and a custom OS is only using BL and Modem

But i always just flash it all just to be thorough....

xoxo_xdagirl91 said:
DOK2 Bootloader: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24269982087008410
DOK2 Modem: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24269982087008409
I used odin 3.11.1: http://dl.sammobile.com/Odin3-v3.11.1.zip
put the bootloader in the BL section & the modem in the CP section of odin
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Can i flash that with flashhire app? (Without odin) And without loose my twrp?
Thanks!

N910t3 downgrade from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1 ?

Hello everyone i just bought n910t3 and its running default 6.0.1 marshmallow and i am trying to downgrade to 5.1.1 but odin fails everytime.
Knox counter is 0×0
But something weird is happning when i make factory data reset in stock recovery shows me this error ( unable to mount preload no such file or directory ) phone is running just fine but this error is really bugging me.
Any ideas ?
UPDATE
PROBLEM SOLVED=I SOLD THE DAMN PHONE

Anyone ?

Google account removed from phone or oem lock switch hit?

obliviousmnd said:
Google account removed from phone or oem lock switch hit?
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I did check oem unlock is on but still fails in odin
And what about that error while wipe data factory reset ( unable to mount preload thing any ideas ?
And google account i didn't remove before flashing but i did factory reset before flashing 5.1.1 does that matter ?
I had n910t couple of months ago and i was flashing downgrade without remove Google account.

Trex888 said:
I did check oem unlock is on but still fails in odin
And what about that error while wipe data factory reset ( unable to mount preload thing any ideas ?
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Is FRP lock showing ON while in download mode?

obliviousmnd said:
Is FRP lock showing ON while in download mode?
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Yes it's showing frp lock on in download mode
What am i suppose to do here?

Trex888 said:
Yes it's showing frp lock on in download mode
What am i suppose to do here?
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Oh my bad, you're trying to downgrade. Downgrade not possible for t3. Flash stock 6.0.1, problem resolved.

I am happy with marshmallow but when i was running lollipop the ( unable to mount preload error was not there )
I did flash 3 times 6.0.1 firmware but the error still came up in red letters when i do wipe data factory reset.
Any solution to fix that ?

I'm trying to downgrade my n910t3 phone as OP too. Currently I'm on N910T3UVU3EPJ2, never rooted, never flashed with custom ROM, Knox counter 0x0. Is it true that It's not possible at all to downgrade it?
If so, is it mean that you can still flash the older 6.0.1 MM stock ROM or it is not possible as well?

jackgan said:
I'm trying to downgrade my n910t3 phone as OP too. Currently I'm on N910T3UVU3EPJ2, never rooted, never flashed with custom ROM, Knox counter 0x0. Is it true that It's not possible at all to downgrade it?
If so, is it mean that you can still flash the older 6.0.1 MM stock ROM or it is not possible as well?
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No way to downgrade t3 i tried all older firmwares.
i sold the n910t3 and i bought n910t now i can easily downgrade i am on 5.1.1

Trex888 said:
No way to downgrade t3 i tried all older firmwares.
i sold the n910t3 and i bought n910t now i can easily downgrade i am on 5.1.1
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How did you downgrade n910t from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1
Thanks

jedisurfer said:
How did you downgrade n910t from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1
Thanks
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I didn't Downgrade not possible on N910T3 only N910T is possible just flash stock firmware "OK1" 5.1.1 through odin

Trex888 said:
I didn't Downgrade not possible on N910T3 only N910T is possible just flash stock firmware "OK1" 5.1.1 through odin
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you can do it but its a long shot using Z3x box