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ENABLE BACK CAMERA FOR VIDEOCALL ON AT&T 8925 TILT
It is possible to do? Do I need some registry hack?
btw:
-My service provider has 3g videocall enabled, so I can use it to receive videocall but I cannot send my own view.
-I have reflashed my 8925 with an Tytn rom (the dialer has the video button)
Thanks for your help!
5 (FIVE) months passed and no replies???
somebody in the whole world have done this?
please help!
what is the point of video calling if you cannot see the other person..?
and the answer is no, can't be done
hm..
not for nothin... but how are you gonna see the other person if you've got the back of your phone facing you...
ericmcintire said:
not for nothin... but how are you gonna see the other person if you've got the back of your phone facing you...
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LOL, the other half wants to know what he's doing at all times.
P1Tater said:
LOL, the other half wants to know what he's doing at all times.
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lol...
In all seriousness.. you can check this out and see if it's what you are looking for
http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/
now the wifey can keep tabs on your whenever she wants.
ericmcintire said:
not for nothin... but how are you gonna see the other person if you've got the back of your phone facing you...
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Simple solution: stand in front of a mirror
snoopyrph said:
Simple solution: stand in front of a mirror
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...without the phone
meanvulcan said:
...without the phone
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use the back camera and stand in front of a mirror so you can see other person on your screen. Think about it, it would work but little silly though
Hold on I'm going to move to the back of the phone so you can see me now.
snoopyrph said:
use the back camera and stand in front of a mirror so you can see other person on your screen. Think about it, it would work but little silly though
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Ya, I gotcha brother. I was being sarcastic...
lcohen999 said:
what is the point of video calling if you cannot see the other person..?
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You missed the point.
There are times where you need to show something other than your face to other caller. Eg. Showing an engineer re the machine damage, etc. This is where the back camera comes in handy. Yes, you can take picture then send as MMS but if there're multiple things to show it's just not as convinient as using video call.
Easy solution!
Sell ur tilt on ebay, use money to buy a real htc kaiser. Ta da, now u can use video call the way its supposed to be used on ur phone. Wasnt that easy now?
cp1md2b said:
Hold on I'm going to move to the back of the phone so you can see me now.
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Why would you do that? think man...use mirror reflection with the back camera. Use your imagination
My point is, I wish to know if it is possible to TRANSMIT VIDEO with a At&T Tilt, no matter what kind...just transmit the video to the other person during a call using 3G. There must be some registry hack to do this!...Pof, Olipro, Sleuth255: Tilt users need your help here!
leomandelbrot said:
My point is, I wish to know if it is possible to TRANSMIT VIDEO with a At&T Tilt, no matter what kind...just transmit the video to the other person during a call using 3G. There must be some registry hack to do this!...Pof, Olipro, Sleuth255: Tilt users need your help here!
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There is a way to do this.. with my hermes (imate jasjam with front facing cam) in video calls you could go to options and switch to back camera.. I cant test it for you now cuz i'm in the US but heading overseas in mid june and pretty sure it can be done..
Great idea
I think that feature is good to have on the AT&T Tilt. Its a good idea to use the back camera with a lower resolution offcourse. Is it possible?
leomandelbrot said:
My point is, I wish to know if it is possible to TRANSMIT VIDEO with a At&T Tilt, no matter what kind...just transmit the video to the other person during a call using 3G. There must be some registry hack to do this!...Pof, Olipro, Sleuth255: Tilt users need your help here!
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if you have dialer with video call and options like HTC dialer you can go to the option and turn the camera from the front to the rear one.. i think with this way you have video call on tilt
leomandelbrot said:
5 (FIVE) months passed and no replies???
somebody in the whole world have done this?
please help!
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If you want the provider-supported videocalls then of course currently it can NOT be done (although in theory I would say it shouldn't be any problem just to force the use of rear camera in a small resolution and route it for videocalls, that should work for as long as you have 3G connection).
But
you can always use it for videocalls using other web-based communication apps, the only "problem" is that the other person have to use them too...
There was Microsoft Portrait - I had excellent videocalls using my old iPAQ 6515's and TYTN "rear" cameras; it even support connection to NetMeeting on your PC and that way I could i.e. have a peek whats going on at home (when PC's NM is set correctly you can enable it to autoanswer etc) Skype worked too; I bet bunch of other apps works that way too, and they probably work great - I can admit that i.e. MS Portrait had better video and audio than when using my provider's 3G videocalls.
The only problems are that i.e. MS Portrait is very picky about the cameras (i.e. it doesn't recognize the camera in last version of iPAQ6515 while it did in the previous model) or Skype fiddles with their app so often and so much that it is hard to even say which one works on which phone (there are versions that I don't even had sound over wifi on TYTN II, not to mention old iPAQ...)
So, if you want videocalls - and not necessarily through your usually crappy provider - there are plenty of options... you just won't see yourself or the other person when youre using the "rear' camera, thats all.
viluve said:
You missed the point.
There are times where you need to show something other than your face to other caller. Eg. Showing an engineer re the machine damage, etc. This is where the back camera comes in handy. Yes, you can take picture then send as MMS but if there're multiple things to show it's just not as convinient as using video call.
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leomandelbrot said:
My point is, I wish to know if it is possible to TRANSMIT VIDEO with a At&T Tilt, no matter what kind...just transmit the video to the other person during a call using 3G. There must be some registry hack to do this!...Pof, Olipro, Sleuth255: Tilt users need your help here!
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I have done this using webcamera plus: provided the necessary ports are open and the windows xp/vista software is installed, put the receiver's ip address on your pocket pc part of the software and you will be transmitting video with either camera.
I work for the government and for the next few weeks will not be able to have a phone that can take pictures with me. Is there a way I can either remove or disable the camera function so I can show that I can not take pictures with my phone.
I was gonig to say you can request a ROM, however I just took my laptop to Best Buy today to get it fixed so i can't cook. What i suggest is that you download XDA Live 2.0 and use it for the meantime since it doesn't come with a camera.
You can download a 20270 kaiser kitchen from ppckitchen.org. I think the camera OEM is optional in it, but if not, it's easy to identify which package is the camera and delete it. As an alternive, you can probably just reassign the camera button to a non-existent app and that will essentially disable it to the casual observer.
Most secure facilities don't want you to have the hardware, regardless of whether it is functional or not.
gguruusa said:
You can download a 20270 kaiser kitchen from ppckitchen.org. I think the camera OEM is optional in it, but if not, it's easy to identify which package is the camera and delete it. As an alternive, you can probably just reassign the camera button to a non-existent app and that will essentially disable it to the casual observer.
Most secure facilities don't want you to have the hardware, regardless of whether it is functional or not.
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I will look at trying to disable the camera button. I will also look at the 2027 kitchen. I have not been able to get any kind of cooking to work though. I think the main problem is vista. I am not going to be in a very secure place, just a place that has made stupid rules haha.
kareem9nba
if that dosen't work or fly whit where I am going I will go your route thank you for the suggestions.
I also work for the government and if the phone has a camera on it period it is not allowed into secure sites period no matter if the "ROM" has it disabled. once they see that it has a camera its a security risk and the guards that do the intakes could careless that it doesn't work, as long as there is a camera there they will take it until you leave or worse take it for good. the best bet is leave it in the car when you go into secure areas that has always worked for me Also the kaiser can be used as a storage medium so it probably won't be allowed anyway. Since no type of storage media is allowed. Also it depends on how secure the site your going into is
I to Contract for the Goverment!
I agree with Austinsync since there is a Camera lens on it you will not get by Security. Also the fact that it can store data via internal memory and well as transmit via sms,mms and internet there is no way you will talk your way by Security. You could glue a piece of glass on a Sucrets can and they would take it away from you. In fact I had to sign a form stating that if I do bring in something like that in they have the right to take it. and you may not get it back. Where I am PDA's are not aloud ,Anything that can be used to transport data is a risk to them. So don't bother looking for a rom, leave the phone in the car besides most government facilities jam cell calls anyway so having a phone is of no use when your inside the building.
Ed...
I just have a "dumb" phone from back in the day. Just a basic as basic gets cellular. Still useless when im on site due to jaming
I don't work for the federal government. I work for the PA state Gov. I am being sent for training. The place I am going is not secure. No security. They say no cells because they don't want them going off during class. And since we have to stay over night they don't want people running around taking pictures of everything and everyone. We can have cells if we use them as alarms though. I think that if the camera is disabled or would say "no camera" if the button was hit that it would be sufficient for my situation. Even Kareem's suggestion probably would be enough to make the trainers happy if they would say anything. If not I will leave it in my car and go from there.
Also sorry about the post in the wrong area.
Well the title pretty much says it all...
I was just wondering if there was any way this was possible...
I mean after all, it cant be that difficult of a program to work.
if you can find a door opener that works via bluetooth then sure! why not?
icewhitenewyear said:
Well the title pretty much says it all...
I was just wondering if there was any way this was possible...
I mean after all, it cant be that difficult of a program to work.
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Oh man, I'll never be bored to read this board . Please keep us inform if you succeed that .
icewhitenewyear said:
Well the title pretty much says it all...
I was just wondering if there was any way this was possible...
I mean after all, it cant be that difficult of a program to work.
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or through home wifi net. Probably you'll be able to use one of pc remote programs.
but there is other way how this could be done. with any phone, just ringing number. there is a device, based on simtoolkit which you should place in any old cheap mobil with simtoolkit (nearly any) with prepaid sim card just for receiving. it's connected through sim reader connector. device is configurable, you can have more outputs. you can set it to open when number is ringed from predefined numbers. e.g. just one ring, without answering.
you can have sms's being send from home as alarm triggers.
i wanted to use this in car. to open car, as car alarm, i think it also can send cell id as sms. it was intended for this purpose. also has acceleration sensors in it.
http://www.bladox.cz/index.php?lang=en
icewhitenewyear said:
Well the title pretty much says it all...
I was just wondering if there was any way this was possible...
I mean after all, it cant be that difficult of a program to work.
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I only looked at this thread coz i thought it was some kind of joke lol. Kaiser doesnt have an infra red port so unless you have a garage door opener that works on either bluetooth or wifi i very much doubt anything can be done.
One of these hooked to a momentary relay would do it. Attach the relay to the door opener button. You could also turn on the lights, unlock the doors, pretty much any thing you wanted.
Just do a search for the garagedooropener.cab file somewhere here.
There is also a boilwaterwhileyouconvertvideos.cab, and
swatfliesinthekitchen.cab, and
smokingcigar.cab, and my all-time favourite, the backmassager.cab
Hope this helps
OMG It works! Don't need to install anything!
Step one: Hold Tilt in the middle, with the top facing upwards. Very important!
Step two: Push the top of the tilt into your Garage Door opener button.
Step three: PROFIT!
Yes, it's possible... Currently, I'm working an a project for opening doors via bluetooth. I use the hardware of a bt headset to trigger a relay that opens the door. It's already working, but I haven't had the time to build it into my backdoor... I have tested it with my Qtek 9000, working flawless. And tested the security also: other phones can't connect to the lock, without having the proper code.
And remember: there has to be a *mechanical* backup solution also, in case of electricity failure...
khaytsus said:
OMG It works! Don't need to install anything!
Step one: Hold Tilt in the middle, with the top facing upwards. Very important!
Step two: Push the top of the tilt into your Garage Door opener button.
Step three: PROFIT!
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i can confirm this method works hahaha
you made my day
Here is the cab you need Garagedoor.Cab
Install, Hard reset, And BAM you are in buisness. You can thank me later.
khaytsus said:
OMG It works! Don't need to install anything!
Step one: Hold Tilt in the middle, with the top facing upwards. Very important!
Step two: Push the top of the tilt into your Garage Door opener button.
Step three: PROFIT!
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OMG HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Garade door openers operate on the 390 megahertz band. Unless the magical radio fary jumped in our devices the phone's cannot/will not operate on that band. The only thing that is allowed on that bandwith (according to the F.C.C.) is Military Freq's and, (you guessed it) Garage Door Openers.
icewhitenewyear said:
Well the title pretty much says it all...
I was just wondering if there was any way this was possible...
I mean after all, it cant be that difficult of a program to work.
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Being as garage door openers are RF and you have nothing in the phone to xmit on those frequencies it should be easy right?
hahaha there was already a thread about this like a few months back but yeah that would be sick using the blue tooth for a garage opener. i would also like to see my tilt transform in to a 8in tall robot with laser and rocket boosters to if anyone nows how pm me lol
The problems I see are range, and delay. Are you going to drag your phone out, wait for it to pair, then open the door while you are parked right in front of the garage? Most decent cars have homelink or you can just use your stock remote. I use a 2 channel EMX receiver that is inside my gate post with a high gain antenna for over 1000 foot range and a wire running to the garage for the garage door. When I round the corner to come down my street I hit one homelink button for the gate then immediately the button for my garage, and the gate is open by the time I get there. No waiting, no fumbling, easy as can be. Convenience drives innovation, making something more difficult to do just because it's one less device isn't really the best bet.
A friend of mine has a home automation system installed. He can control anything in the house from a website, which also has a pda companion application. He can turn on/off/dimm any light in the house, control the a/c temp, unlock/lock front and rear door, fans, blinds, and... you guessed it garage door!
I forgot how much he paid for it but its a new home and had it installed during construction. So i guess check out the first link and do some research on home automation systems. You can do it so you can only control one aspect, dont have to network the entire house.
Ok, there are a lot of people making fun of the question he made, but it is not that stupid.
No, not all "door openers operate on the 390 megahertz band", there are a lot of other frequencies available (I've seen 27MHz and 2,4G for example), in this case we have specifically one, 2,4GHz in bluetooth and WiFi. Given the low power of the bluetooth radio in our PDA, it has a low range but can be used as the user Tacoboy said. For the specific application of a garage door I would suggest WiFi, given the wider coverage of those devices.
It is not that slow, you can connect you PDA to a access point pretty quick...
Actually I am thinkig of doing something similar in free time. I've found this thread because I was wondering if someone had already done this and supplied the source codes, making it more easier .
I am plannig on doing a main application to be used on a old computer that will be used as the "central" for the automation system, who will receive instructions over the network for several tasks, for example open the garage door... This can be accomplished using webservices or something similar.
You can argue that just using the stock remote is much faster, and it is, but the standard remote cannot connect to the internet and open you garage door remotely in case someone is at your door and you are stuck in traffic, for example
works!!!
Try the X10 module
fone_fanatic said:
A friend of mine has a home automation system installed. He can control anything in the house from a website, which also has a pda companion application. He can turn on/off/dimm any light in the house, control the a/c temp, unlock/lock front and rear door, fans, blinds, and... you guessed it garage door!
I forgot how much he paid for it but its a new home and had it installed during construction. So i guess check out the first link and do some research on home automation systems. You can do it so you can only control one aspect, dont have to network the entire house.
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It is definitely something that can be done, but how much are you willing to pay to do it.....I'm not talking about on the radio band cause that one is not really possible....reasons stated above......but with remote management via internet and automation/plc control computer to plc to electric relays....yeah it is very plausible. There are field irrigation systems that work on the sim card recieve only system. You call them up on your cell and turn them on, set how long they are to be on for and all sorts of other neat stuff. Just don't really see the cost effectiveness as a new garage door opener runs 20$. these are at least in the hundreds to thousands range no matter which way you go. If someone is there in your driveway and needing the door opened hope you installed one of the touchpads that you can give him a temp password to...also just thinking $$$
Ok so I am starting to work on creating some apps with Android. Without giving away my idea I just want to describe basically what I need just to see if it even exists or I'd have to find a way to make one.
So what I need it a GPS unit that can be remote from my handset (I'll be using my Nook Color for dev in this case). Now normally you'd say, ok just use a bluetooth one, however I need its range to be far beyond what BT would provide. so I need something that would transmit signal over maybe RF to some sort of receiver that then I can hopefully connect to the USB port on the Nook or whatever other device. I need its range to be about a mile or so. Anyone know of something that exists like this?
If I were to build the device myself I would really only need it to transmit data every time the GPS unit crosses over a specific set of coordinates. This is why how it operates dictates how I will program this thing.
Any other suggestions of how to do this or ideas on if something like this even exists?
There are tons of apps to track another android phone, and you can find GPS tracking units to mount on vehicles as "spy" supplies, but I don't know if any of them have Android apps. That's about all I can tell you.
Taosaur said:
There are tons of apps to track another android phone, and you can find GPS tracking units to mount on vehicles as "spy" supplies, but I don't know if any of them have Android apps. That's about all I can tell you.
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Hmm you present 2 interesting ideas.
I could make an app that does what I want it to do by tracking another phone's GPS, and just have my app require 2 phones. Problem is I'm reliant on cell signal there most likely which won't work with a nook (and also won't work "everywhere").
The other maybe there is a way for me to make the Nook or other android device receive from that GPS tracker.
Thanks for that, gave me a couple ideas!
If you have access to an Android phone to serve as the GPS marker, just get something like Family Tracker. The tracking client should work on the NC.
Taosaur said:
If you have access to an Android phone to serve as the GPS marker, just get something like Family Tracker. The tracking client should work on the NC.
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I need it to work independent of cell service/internet service. basically the only connections need to be to a GPS satellite and direct between the transmitter and the receiver at the Android device.
Working on some spy stuff?
I Am Marino said:
Working on some spy stuff?
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Nope, its basically a remote lap timer.
So apparently, I can't bring my laptop everywhere to get my thing done, but I had a thought of referring that to my phone. I find any trusted app/script to get the packets to cap file that would sit down in my sd card for further use. I'm not some evil mastermind that would go stealing anything(don't need anything now dough) This is purely for learning since I'm still learning about IT but trying to get ahead and since android is something that I'm still not sure of how it works.
And my other question: How can I get video calling on skype? I'm assuming it should work with GindgerDX but it doesn't.
Bahurs1 said:
So apparently, I can't bring my laptop everywhere to get my thing done, but I had a thought of referring that to my phone. I find any trusted app/script to get the packets to cap file that would sit down in my sd card for further use. I'm not some evil mastermind that would go stealing anything(don't need anything now dough) This is purely for learning since I'm still learning about IT but trying to get ahead and since android is something that I'm still not sure of how it works.
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The question is ... why would you want to run a packet capture? The payload data in the packets is encrypted anyway - so there's no real way to (assuming evil intentions) crack down on the convos of other users being in the same WLAN/LAN segment. If you're worried about Man-in-the-middle attacks take my word that it won't work. If you wiretap a Skype<->Skype chat/call via a man-in-the-middle attack the connection would fail as Skype would recognize that the end-to-end encryption is borked.
Anyhow, whatever your idea is ... Google for "Pixie" ... that's a network sniffer for Android, and the only one I happen to know (as real men use tcpdump or Wireshark for network analysis anyway).
Bahurs1 said:
And my other question: How can I get video calling on skype? I'm assuming it should work with GindgerDX but it doesn't.
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No. Skype Video only works on a selected range of devices (read up on the description in the Market) having a FRONT camera (a camera that's facing you and not a camera that's at the back of your device facing away from you).
Look around on XDA/Google (in other words: SEARCH!) and you will find out that there's a hacked version that has Video enabled for some additional devices, though I don't know if that would support the back camera of the W8/X8.
Yeah I'm kinnda sorry for the dumb question about skype cause I just always forget to look it up when I sit down on the web.
As for the sniffer thing. I dont know who would ever need to investigate packets affcourse I need to get the password. The sicuation is hard to explain, but lets say I need to prove that 14digs of just numbers is a stupid idea for long range wifi access password.
I cant get my laptop there so I need an alternative to get some packets and then easily get the password at home and as I sayed I'm not a genius in IT but I know how to use some of the features that backtrack provides.