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Let me ask a question, cause its bothering me; I had an N5 and loved it, the no-crap android os is what I want. Unfortunately I had to go through all kinds of hoops and do all kinds of crap to get it to last me a full day with no charge, I changed kernels and kernel settings, etc. and usually had to throw it on a charger to get through the day and periodically would hose my phone due to under-volting which was hit or miss anyway.
I picked up an invite for a 64G OnePlus and it was insane, its like I got double the battery life and did nothing, no kernel, just the stock CM. I lusted for the N6 and got it last week. Man its big, but I'm loving it, but......wtf is the issue with the battery? I'm reading other stories and I have not been able to really benchmark mine, I got the phone Fri. and have not had a normal day yet, but I'm starting to get a little worried. I had wake up notifications, LED blinking and the same amount of wake ups as I usually have. But I don't think theres anyway I'm getting 5ish sot. Why? Whats so different? Is it me or the device? I can live with 4ish sot, nothing less and I don't want to **** around with kernels again. I'm still in my 14 day return, but so don't want to. I'm rooted, custom recovery, don't want to flash a rom (well maybe CM when available) and did not feel a need to decrypt, but maybe thats the answer. Anyway, any additional thoughts?
I just think that the nexus 6 panel is very power hungry. 5 hrs sot is kind of what I have been getting. It kills me that the note 4 has the same processor and same battery yet gets better battery life.
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I just think that the nexus 6 panel is very power hungry. 5 hrs sot is kind of what I have been getting. It kills me that the note 4 has the same processor and same battery yet gets better battery life.
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But I figured the Moto like peek feature would be less power then a full wake up like it was doing on the One. I want to keep this phone, I actually did the unthinkable and tried the IP6+, just to give it the benefit of a doubt, I got it on a Fri. morn and brought it back Mon.
Any chance of software fix from Google? I know there is not a clear answer, but I'm wondering what the xda-gods are thinking, hence my questions.
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I actually did the unthinkable and tried the IP6+, just to give it the benefit of a doubt
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but I'm wondering what the xda-gods are thinking,
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You have likely offended the xda-Android-dogs by your sacrilegious act described above!!! You need to smash up a brand new IP6+ as a sacrifice to atone for this act! You infidel!
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On a serious note, OnePlus is running a custom OS, with a custom kernel and all the goodies that we Nexus users have to make changes to get. One+ is already running the optimized OS. I'd say that is why it gets better battery life than stock Lollipop.
Dear Folks,
I am about to buy and phone and i am reading and reading reviews about Nexus 6 vs Note 4, i don't know what to buy because after reading all that my mind is not working well, could you please help me to choose what phone should i have?
P.S i heard battery life on Nexus 6 is not good, is it true? :fingers-crossed:
Battery life is great on the Nexus 6 especially on Marshmallow. Under 30% a day with full time data and wifi and moderate use. I only use Battery Saving location, it"s accurate enough unless you're navigating your car.
As for the question itself, I too was choosing between these two, but I was searching for a device to develop on rather than just use it, so it clearly made the decision easy. First in Europe the official unlocked device is the Exynos one, I didn't want a locked device, it's a nuisance and since I was about to trip Knox the first day, it's a phone you can't sell later.
So the Note 4 has a better camera, it's not as huge (I had a Note 3 before), and the S-Pen that I never really used, but other people love it.
Also before I decided to buy a new phone for development, I was already using cm12.1 on my Note 3, and was looking for something even more stock than cyanogenmod. So there was not an option for me to go Touchwiz again.
So if you make up your mind what you are wanting this phone for, then I hope I helped to choose.
Dear @istperson all i am concerned about is little bit good battery life which help me to spend full day with wifi and data usage, i am not a developer, i also don't like S-Pen at all, i used S5 and touchwiz was lagging all the times, CM themer is available for Nexus 6 right? i think i will go with Nexus 6 its beautiful phone with large screen but i still find Note 4 screen more better than Nexus 6, what do you think?
Battery life for me is great 40% at least at the end of the day. Speakers are stellar as is the screen, camera is good can't complain.
I just bought an N6 about 2 months ago, and I have loved every second of it. I came from a Samsung Galaxy S3, so I would definitely not recommend buying a note 4. I am amazed that I was able to handle a GS3 for that long given how locked-down the software was. It took me no time to unlock, flash TWRP, root, and get a custom ROM running on my Nexus, whereas I was never able to do more than Xposed + root on my old phone. The software is amazing (and can be whatever you want it to be), the camera is nice (except for some strange autofocus bugs), and everything works like a charm.
As far as battery, I usually got 3 hrs SOT over about 18hrs (wifi, 4g, location, and always-on voice all turned on) running stock. With my current setup with Chroma ROM and kernel, I got 4hrs SOT over 18hrs yesterday even with a strange bug that caused mobile radio to suck up a third of my battery. Plus with Doze, standby time is unbeatable.
Hands down, go with a Nexus. I'm never going back.
I bought my nexus 6 a month ago and it is amazing! My battery life on stock was around 5 - 5.5 SOT, but now, after unlocking and rooting, with custom kernel and doze I get around 6-7 SOT!! Keep in mind that I don't use location, brightness is often on low levels, data is on 3G, but I am web surfing a lot, watching youtube, on tapatalk and whats app. Also nexus 6 will be among firsts to receive latest updates, patches and bug fixes straight from google. The speakers are really loud and great, and you get used to phone's size very fast. Camera is ok, nothing special, works just fine with third party apps...
Nexus screen is gorgeous (same resolution as Note 4 at Quad HD) but not as bright, most likely. Nexus will have no lag, and the battery should be no problem getting through a day
Hi guys,
Happy New Year to all! Seems like my first resolution for 2017 will be to get a new phone as my LG G3 decided to die a few days after Christmas while on vacation... lovely, as it was to be my only way of taking pictures! Anyway, I'm looking for a cost-effective replacement phone (I'm in Australia for reference). My preference would have been a Pixel phone, but they retail north of 1000 AUD for the entry-level 32GB non-XL Pixel here, which is just too expensive for my liking. Alternatively I would have considered the S7/S7 Edge, but just a few months before release of the S8 I'm not willing to pay full price for it.
This brings me to the P9, which is currently on sale here bringing its price to roughly half of the Pixel/S7 Edge (600 AUD), and given a major point for me is camera/picture quality, it is a serious contender. My main concern however is the rather heavy-handed EMUI skin. Are there any P9 users around here who generally prefer stock-ish Android and who have switched to the P9? What's your feeling around EMUI? As long-term users, did you get accustomed to it? Things like the notifications shade and the recent apps are making me cringe a little, partly because they seem much less practical than the default implementation in Android, and partly because.... they look like an iPhone
Are there any apps available to make EMUI look more like stock? I'd unlock the bootloader and root this thing if I buy it, so I'm thinking things like xposed modules? I'd also be fine flashing a stock-based custom ROM, but would rather avoid stock-based/CM/Lineage ROM as I'd like to keep full camera functionality.
Also - unrelated question, but are people generally happy with battery life on the P9? I'm a light/medium user and the 2 hours of screen on time I'd routinely get on the G3 would be okay most days, but obviously short for days of heavy use. I seem to be reading that 4-4.5 hours of SOT is standard, is that what people experience?
My fallback plan would be to get a ZUK Z2 to tide me over until this year's phones.
Thanks for reading!
I got a zuk z2 pro after initially moving from Windows Lumia 950. The hardware for price was awesome but the software on it was a nightmare so I sold it and switched to P9.
First I used Nova launcher which was great as Emui didn't have an app draw.
Now I am beta testing Nougat Emui 5 which is a lot better and closer to stock although still stuck with the Icons.
Currently Nova crashes with my widgets so until that is fixed I am keeping with standard launcher, actually now I am used to it I may just stay using it.
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I used a Nexus 5 for 2 years , S6 for 1 year and now I have a P9 (HTC 10 for some weeks,other phones only a few days).
Emui is something new . For me,it feels like a new, fresh experience.
I'm done with stock android. If I buy a flagship device,i want some features . The phone is fast (feels faster than HTC 10,S6,etc) .
For me ,it's better than stock android. S6 had the features,but it was laggy (s7 is the same). P9 has the features but it's also fast.
For me it's BAD, but not the EMUI by itself. It's bad because it's poorly made. No double tap to wake up the screen, no wave to wake up but there are ton of other useless motion controls.. Even Knuckle gestures that pretty sure no one is using (or 5 people at most)... Notes app doesn't sync with Gmail. No Reminders app. Don't like the colors, even in the Nougat update. Black with dark blue is so ugly (to me) that if I knew this would be enough to skip this phone. One of my biggest problems - can't turn off the haptic feedback, everytime I am using google search the phone vibrates and drives me crazy, and of course is draining battery. The worst part of the Phone is the updates, mine is still with 1 September security patch, it's January now... Flagship not getting monthly security patches in 2016-2017 is a joke, especially with the raising virus attacks. Took them too long to update to Nougat - another flaw. Everything else - Screen, build quality, camera is pretty damn good. Battery is pretty good to 5 hours without any problem and on Nougat most people get 6 and more hours.. Software is the biggest flaw.
Yes you can make it more Stock like - take a look at the themes here that some good people are making. No need of another Launcher. They are great and make the phone at least look better. And they will be released for EMUI 5 too. I won't suggest installing launchers, at least I had really bad experience, my phone started lagging so much I had to factory reset it. And I asked many people, they had the same problem after installing another launcher. This is my opinion and my experience. To be honest, if I knew how I will feel with this phone, I was going to get me S7. My advice is just wait for S8... Or LG G5 right now is on great price in most countries, great phone, would take it everyday instead of Huawei... It's your money and your decision after all.
Thanks guys for all the valuable feedback. I gave it a good thinking and eventually went to buy the P9 last weekend. I'll be writing up some more thorough thoughts about it when I get a chance, but so far I'm quite satisfied. It's very fluid overall, and I have 61% battery left as I write this with 1.5 hours of screen on time - at this stage my G3, also with a 3000mah battery, would be close to throwing in the towel already!
Two noticeable drawbacks, the lack of OIS for a phone supposedly focused on photography is annoying, and the 3D performance is definitely very middling. I did know this going in though so it certainly is no big surprise.
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Battery life on the P9 is way better than the G3 (I had one that sadly died as well). P9 is also much smoother and doesn't heat as much as the G3 did.
EMUI is OK. Takes a bit more time the first day to set things up, because some things are buried a bit deeper in the settings. If you're worried about the look... There's a good theming community with some really good "stock android" themes available. Pair that with something like Nova launcher and you won't even notice it's there.
The camera is indeed excellent.
I also came from the G3 to this phone. I am loving it. I was ready to unlock/root/custom after reading all the professional reviews slamming EMUI. It took a bit of getting used to, but 7 months later this remains the first Android phone I have not rooted. I haven't even given it a factory rest to combat slow-down, and battery life remains excellent.
There is a customer skin in this: (https://forum.xda-developers.com/p9/themes/theme-material-vui-t3429075) thread which provides a nice stock look to icons and notification bar. I missed the app drawer for about 2 days then just got a folder page set up and organised. On balance it doesn't take me any longer to get to where I want to go.
About my only complaint is that even with my White-list protecting certain apps from being killed, they still do not seem to perform as they did on the G3. These are automation apps like IFTTT which I used to auto arm/disarm my home security when I arrive leave.
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Hi guys,
Happy New Year to all! Seems like my first resolution for 2017 will be to get a new phone as my LG G3 decided to die a few days after Christmas while on vacation... lovely, as it was to be my only way of taking pictures! Anyway, I'm looking for a cost-effective replacement phone (I'm in Australia for reference). My preference would have been a Pixel phone, but they retail north of 1000 AUD for the entry-level 32GB non-XL Pixel here, which is just too expensive for my liking. Alternatively I would have considered the S7/S7 Edge, but just a few months before release of the S8 I'm not willing to pay full price for it.
This brings me to the P9, which is currently on sale here bringing its price to roughly half of the Pixel/S7 Edge (600 AUD), and given a major point for me is camera/picture quality, it is a serious contender. My main concern however is the rather heavy-handed EMUI skin. Are there any P9 users around here who generally prefer stock-ish Android and who have switched to the P9? What's your feeling around EMUI? As long-term users, did you get accustomed to it? Things like the notifications shade and the recent apps are making me cringe a little, partly because they seem much less practical than the default implementation in Android, and partly because.... they look like an iPhone
Are there any apps available to make EMUI look more like stock? I'd unlock the bootloader and root this thing if I buy it, so I'm thinking things like xposed modules? I'd also be fine flashing a stock-based custom ROM, but would rather avoid stock-based/CM/Lineage ROM as I'd like to keep full camera functionality.
Also - unrelated question, but are people generally happy with battery life on the P9? I'm a light/medium user and the 2 hours of screen on time I'd routinely get on the G3 would be okay most days, but obviously short for days of heavy use. I seem to be reading that 4-4.5 hours of SOT is standard, is that what people experience?
My fallback plan would be to get a ZUK Z2 to tide me over until this year's phones.
Thanks for reading!
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Using Nougat Beta I find EMUI 5.0 to be much more tolerable, as it is much closer to stock than 4.x, but also resembles iOS more than before which isn't great.
My biggest annoyance is its cloning of MiUI which, while understandable for a Chinese brand, is impractical. MiUI wastes very large amounts of screen space due to its obsessive "Top half=graphic, bottom half=details" design. Lots of screens have trivial graphics that have only a small amount of useful information, yet they're expanded to take the whole top half of the screen.
My only real annoyance is the stock features it replaces with versions that have fewer features. Case in point, the data usage monitor. Instead of taking the stock version and improving it, it seems Huawei built it from scratch because it can't do several things the stock version can do. Its interface in 4.x is ugly, in my opinion (also very MiUI), but even in 5.0 where it resembles stock, it isn't stock. You can't, for instance, check data usage for the previous month. You also cannot change the day of the month on which the monthly counter resets.
Considering it has the ability to cut off after you surpass a limit, it's clearly still designed with managing bills in mind, like its stock counterpart, yet they assume everyone's billing period resets on the 1st of the month.
Hello everyone!
Background (less important): So, I've been looking at getting a Oneplus phone for a while but when my last 2 phones died back to back, I got an S6 from insurance. Problem with the S6 being just about everything (no SD card expansion, no removable battery, no rooting abilities, etc). I've been keeping an eye out for the right time to get a new device and, now that my device memory is full, I'm looking at a new phone.
I was looking at picking up either the S7 or the Oneplus 3T. The S7 is under $500 on amazon, which is pretty surprising (thought it would be much more expensive), has expandable SD card support, pretty good battery, good camera, lots of RAM, etc and they just got the ability to root. It also has some cool options like medical sensor stuff, etc (not all that important, just extra bells and whistles).
However, the 3T appears to have a very active rooting/mods community, and overall, many people have said this is the best phone they've ever had so I'm leaning towards picking that up. The only downsides I've seen/heard are the camera on the 3T isn't as good (definitely not the end of the world, it's still an upgrade from my S6) and I've seen a number of battery drain threads and that genuinely concerns me. I understand that those with the issue are likely going to be a lot more vocal than those that have everything working but I was hoping to gauge how much of a concern this really is and if anyone has determined the cause of the battery drain and if there's a solution. What I don't want to do is get a developer friendly phone that dies super quick (I understand it charges fast too but I don;t want to rely on that).
Anyway, this is kind of an important decision for me as my goal is to keep a phone for 3 years so I'm looking for a phone that is pretty well future proof (for a while, I know 3 years is a long time in the technology field) and I don't want to "settle" for a phone that's going to give me nothing but headaches.
If you guys could help me understand how big of a deal the battery drain is, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Okay here's the deal. You're posting in the Oneplus 3T forum and people are clearly going to be biased, you're lucky I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 7 and my girlfriend has an S7 Edge.
The experience you're going to get with a Samsung is far richer in features and the camera is superior. The phone just yells premium out of it's every part. The microphone will record your voice better as well.
However, if you're looking for a future proof phone the Oneplus 3T is clearly a winner. People are crying about drain and SoT simply because they're more pretentious and pay more attention to details than Samsung users. All Android phones have some sort of drain and with time, stock ROMs get more laggy and battery consuming. The advantage you have on oneplus is that you can apply all sorts of custom ROMs, kernels and mods to squeeze out the most of your battery, while on Samsung you're more prone of getting stuck with drain sooner or later.
Here's where OP3T's top card comes, dash charge is amazing. At this point I don't even care about SoT since I can charge my phone to 60% in 30m. I'm getting 4-5 hours of SoT without tweaks and 4G always on data using stock ROM. Who even wants to stick their eyes in the phone screen for more than that?
You can't go wrong with the OP3T unless you're willing to wait for the next oneplus.
Bottom line, the drain people have been experiencing on OxygenOS 4.0.3 is of little concern, especially since it's improves with Beta 12 7.1.1. Stop overthinking and get the phone you like.
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Okay here's the deal. You're posting in the Oneplus 3T forum and people are clearly going to be biased, you're lucky I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 7 and my girlfriend has an S7 Edge.
The experience you're going to get with a Samsung is far richer in features and the camera is superior. The phone just yells premium out of it's every part. The microphone will record your voice better as well.
However, if you're looking for a future proof phone the Oneplus 3T is clearly a winner. People are crying about drain and SoT simply because they're more pretentious and pay more attention to details than Samsung users. All Android phones have some sort of drain and with time, stock ROMs get more laggy and battery consuming. The advantage you have on oneplus is that you can apply all sorts of custom ROMs, kernels and mods to squeeze out the most of your battery, while on Samsung you're more prone of getting stuck with drain sooner or later.
Here's where OP3T's top card comes, dash charge is amazing. At this point I don't even care about SoT since I can charge my phone to 60% in 30m. I'm getting 4-5 hours of SoT without tweaks and 4G always on data using stock ROM. Who even wants to stick their eyes in the phone screen for more than that?
You can't go wrong with the OP3T unless you're willing to wait for the next oneplus.
Bottom line, the drain people have been experiencing on OxygenOS 4.0.3 is of little concern, especially since it's improves with Beta 12 7.1.1. Stop overthinking and get the phone you like.
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So just to be clear, you're saying that the battery drain people are experiencing is likely related to a version/rom/etc that they are using and they're too lazy to try different things to try and optimize it but even if I am that lazy, the dash charge still works well enough that it shouldn't be an issue for most people (assuming you're near a charging socket), is that a pretty good synopsis?
Just want to understand if you believe the issue is user error (not using the right software components/settings), user pickiness (IE they're perceiving a problem that's not really there) or if there are the occasional phone that experiences battery issues but it's a very small number.
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So just to be clear, you're saying that the battery drain people are experiencing is likely related to a version/rom/etc that they are using and they're too lazy to try different things to try and optimize it but even if I am that lazy, the dash charge still works well enough that it shouldn't be an issue for most people (assuming you're near a charging socket), is that a pretty good synopsis?
Just want to understand if you believe the issue is user error (not using the right software components/settings), user pickiness (IE they're perceiving a problem that's not really there) or if there are the occasional phone that experiences battery issues but it's a very small number.
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I think that that's what he wants to tell you. To myself : I have the 3T since yesterday and since I'm coming from a M8 it's a huge upgrade for me. But for your comparison : my brother has the S7 and plenty of my friends have the S7E. S7E is in my opinion a superior phone in terms of camera, mic, display, waterproof .. etc. All the things that make the S7/E more superior is only because Sammy has done a better job, BUT what they didn't was to make the phone future proof. The thing with OP3T is that it also does/contains all of the superior things, it's just not that good. The camera is fine for me, I don't care about waterproofness, a 2K display is nice but you won't notice the difference anyway except for the brightness if you compare them both side by side. I'm pretty sure I've made my point.
Now for the 3T's battery drain : I was still on OxygenOS 3.5.4 because I didn't felt the urge to update. Woke up at 7 AM and plugged it out, somewhere between 10 - 11 AM I was on something like 27 percent. It was somehow strange but ok. Now that I couldn't resist to flash CM13 I've noticed a HUGE difference. I flashed CM13 at around 5 PM while I was charging it (was at 90% at 5PM) and now after 4h of using it I'm at 68%. Huge differnce no doubt and I'm staying at CM13.
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I think that that's what he wants to tell you. To myself : I have the 3T since yesterday and since I'm coming from a M8 it's a huge upgrade for me. But for your comparison : my brother has the S7 and plenty of my friends have the S7E. S7E is in my opinion a superior phone in terms of camera, mic, display, waterproof .. etc. All the things that make the S7/E more superior is only because Sammy has done a better job, BUT what they didn't was to make the phone future proof. The thing with OP3T is that it also does/contains all of the superior things, it's just not that good. The camera is fine for me, I don't care about waterproofness, a 2K display is nice but you won't notice the difference anyway except for the brightness if you compare them both side by side. I'm pretty sure I've made my point.
Now for the 3T's battery drain : I was still on OxygenOS 3.5.4 because I didn't felt the urge to update. Woke up at 7 AM and plugged it out, somewhere between 10 - 11 AM I was on something like 27 percent. It was somehow strange but ok. Now that I couldn't resist to flash CM13 I've noticed a HUGE difference. I flashed CM13 at around 5 PM while I was charging it (was at 90% at 5PM) and now after 4h of using it I'm at 68%. Huge differnce no doubt and I'm staying at CM13.
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Thanks for the advice, particularly about the future proofing. I honestly don't get why Samsung hasn't moved to a USB C connector yet . . . Seems like a no brainer, that's clearly the direction everything is heading.
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So just to be clear, you're saying that the battery drain people are experiencing is likely related to a version/rom/etc that they are using and they're too lazy to try different things to try and optimize it but even if I am that lazy, the dash charge still works well enough that it shouldn't be an issue for most people (assuming you're near a charging socket), is that a pretty good synopsis?
Just want to understand if you believe the issue is user error (not using the right software components/settings), user pickiness (IE they're perceiving a problem that's not really there) or if there are the occasional phone that experiences battery issues but it's a very small number.
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Yeah, that's my opinion based on experience as a former Oneplus One, Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and current Oneplus 3T user. People mostly started complaining about drain with OOS4.0.3 (latest current stock) and it will definitely be fixed with OOS nougat 7.1.1. This "battery drain" stigma that you're currently placing on the OP3T has been placed on all major flagships at some point. I can't be certain how well this device will be officially updated in the future, or how the battery will hold up after many many cycles, but i can assure you it will hold up better than an S7.
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Thanks for the advice, particularly about the future proofing. I honestly don't get why Samsung hasn't moved to a USB C connector yet . . . Seems like a no brainer, that's clearly the direction everything is heading.
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They did have USB-C on the Note 7. At the point of S7 launch it wasn't that widespread.
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Yeah, that's my opinion based on experience as a former Oneplus One, Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and current Oneplus 3T user. People mostly started complaining about drain with OOS4.0.3 (latest current stock) and it will definitely be fixed with OOS nougat 7.1.1. This "battery drain" stigma that you're currently placing on the OP3T has been placed on all major flagships at some point. I can't be certain how well this device will be officially updated in the future, or how the battery will hold up after many many cycles, but i can assure you it will hold up better than an S7.
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I'm actually really glad you mentioned that because, you're right, I have definitely experienced various stages of battery drain between updates on Samsung devices except I didn't get to choose when or if I wanted to update with those. At least I'll now be in control of those things! Made up my mind, ordering the Oneplus 3T now! Thanks!
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I'm actually really glad you mentioned that because, you're right, I have definitely experienced various stages of battery drain between updates on Samsung devices except I didn't get to choose when or if I wanted to update with those. At least I'll now be in control of those things! Made up my mind, ordering the Oneplus 3T now! Thanks!
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I am certain you won't regret getting this device. Let me know if you need any help or have any more questions via PM.
6-7 hour of sot per charge every 22-28 hours.
technology is weird. people can get battery drains for all kinds of reasons. google services may be a reason. or some wakelock by some random app that never was a problem, but after installing it on a certain rom on a certain phone it suddenly is a problem. and weirdly enough you are the only one experiencing it. it might be something with the rom where a factory reset may help. some people go ahead and flash another rom and then it is gone. sometimes they make the wrong conclusion that it is the roms fault. or the kernels or whatever. it happens on every phone. just go to a random phones forum and you will find threads with people complaining about battery drain. and they will be the only ones with this particular issue. the vast majority of users does not have such issues. if they do you will find out about it soon enough and after some time there will be an update that fixes it.
my sot is around 5 hours depending on what i do. using media like movies gives you more screen time, heavy gaming gives you less screen time.
Hello, I got a Zenfone 8 from Amazon Warehouse with MFD 4-21. Just after receiving i read about the Ramdump issues with 4-21 and 5-21 MFD, so far nothing happened to my phone. My problem is just the bad battery life and heating issues. I optimized bluetooth (do not know if I disabled optimisation for it), with this I got a little more battery and heating in pocket got less.
Also I flashed Kirisakura Kernel with the hope of getting enough battery life out of the phone to last through the day. Compared to my previous phone (Unihertz Atom XL) I have got much worse battery life. The old phone got about 4300 mah and a smaller screen, but it was in no way optimized and still had about 50% on the end of the day. With the Zenfone on the other hand I get from the morning 06:00 (90 % charge limit) to about 14:00 and would have to recharge. Usage is the same (Health app which is activated every 5 min and needs BT, some news-browsing)
I am now thinking about sending the phone back and switching to a refurbished Pixel 5 (which schould have better battery) or get a brand new Zenfone 8. I like the look and feel of the phone very much, but I do not want to have to charge throughout the day.
If the thermal and battery problem would be from that, that the phone is manufactured in April 2021 I would rather order a brand new Zenfone 8 (in the hope in getting really a new one with MFD end 2021).
What are your thoughts on this?
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Hello, I got a Zenfone 8 from Amazon Warehouse with MFD 4-21. Just after receiving i read about the Ramdump issues with 4-21 and 5-21 MFD, so far nothing happened to my phone. My problem is just the bad battery life and heating issues. I optimized bluetooth (do not know if I disabled optimisation for it), with this I got a little more battery and heating in pocket got less.
Also I flashed Kirisakura Kernel with the hope of getting enough battery life out of the phone to last through the day. Compared to my previous phone (Unihertz Atom XL) I have got much worse battery life. The old phone got about 4300 mah and a smaller screen, but it was in no way optimized and still had about 50% on the end of the day. With the Zenfone on the other hand I get from the morning 06:00 (90 % charge limit) to about 14:00 and would have to recharge. Usage is the same (Health app which is activated every 5 min and needs BT, some news-browsing)
I am now thinking about sending the phone back and switching to a refurbished Pixel 5 (which schould have better battery) or get a brand new Zenfone 8. I like the look and feel of the phone very much, but I do not want to have to charge throughout the day.
If the thermal and battery problem would be from that, that the phone is manufactured in April 2021 I would rather order a brand new Zenfone 8 (in the hope in getting really a new one with MFD end 2021).
What are your thoughts on this?
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Hello, with hot environmental temps, phone heats up easily and that's normal if you're running stock Soc values/bloated OS.
The only way to reduce that, is to install a vanilla rom like Los 19.1 or AEX/Omni (at worst with microG or smallest gApps) and limit a bit the max frequencies for both Cpu and Gpu.
No miracles at all but really acceptable
francescod said:
Hello, with hot environmental temps, phone heats up easily and that's normal if you're running stock Soc values/bloated OS.
The only way to reduce that, is to install a vanilla rom like Los 19.1 or AEX/Omni (at worst with microG or smallest gApps) and limit a bit the max frequencies for both Cpu and Gpu.
No miracles at all but really acceptable
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Thank you for your answer!
Until now I did not have phones which get hot (rather warm) during normal use, also not during summer. Under heavy games this is normal for sure, and expectable.
Are there any disadvantages in using one of the custom roms? I had lineageos on older phones (Galaxy S5 and Oneplus 6t), with the Oneplus there were some problems and I did not see any advantage in using it. Is everything running smooth and working? If not what function is affected by which rom?
I read in another thread that someone managed to get over 8 hours SOT with LOS, this would be nice if there is no disadvantage in functionality and usage.
So you would not recommend to replace the "old" Zenfone with a new one with newer MFD?
I find it a pitty that such a nice phone has those problems, this is why I thought about switching to a Pixel 5 (size, camera, battery and (community) support).
McHoffi said:
Thank you for your answer!
Until now I did not have phones which get hot (rather warm) during normal use, also not during summer. Under heavy games this is normal for sure, and expectable.
Are there any disadvantages in using one of the custom roms? I had lineageos on older phones (Galaxy S5 and Oneplus 6t), with the Oneplus there were some problems and I did not see any advantage in using it. Is everything running smooth and working? If not what function is affected by which rom?
I read in another thread that someone managed to get over 8 hours SOT with LOS, this would be nice if there is no disadvantage in functionality and usage.
So you would not recommend to replace the "old" Zenfone with a new one with newer MFD?
I find it a pitty that such a nice phone has those problems, this is why I thought about switching to a Pixel 5 (size, camera, battery and (community) support).
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The main reason for the heat issue is the bad built 888, and in our compact dimensions can only be worse than expected.
If you can go vanilla, that's for sure the best option in consumption/temp terms, otherwise even microG or at worse with smallest gApps you'll be in a better situation than stock, still tweaking freqs as I said above by default .
Bugs might be on NFC payments department, shouldn't there be in any other side, considering these A12 roms are on "first weeks of global tests".
On Los you loose Asus Camera and Dialer as their best apps, but you can go with gCam though with pretty results.
Omni/AEX should also have FM radio if you're interested in and Asus camera.
Since you're already rooted, it's just a matter of a Format to go with any rom, and an eventually second Format to go back easily with the Asus A12 RAW file.
I was forgetting....only a newer device than, let's say November 2021, might give you a real "ramdump proof" device, but heat remains the same, unless they also modified heat dissipation that's most unlikely to happen.
I installed MicroG, this helped with battery life, but brought also disadvantages (calendar, contacts). I also got a Pixel 5 to test, and am until now more for the P5. The battery lasts me a full day and this without taking the disadvantages in usability on me. With MicroG the battery life still was not as I would like it to be.
I liked the ROM of Asus, especially because of the battery options and modes, also the options for Dual Band Wifi and Hyperfusion (Wifi + Data).
I am thankful for your recommendations. But I am tending to stay with the Pixel where I do not need to do so much to the software to work for me.