So i've searched the forum and got an impression this might work.
I have owned AW for 2 years on my Sony SmartWatch 3, it has NFC but AW never activated AP on AW til AW2. I just today ordered a used Urbane2 which is due to get AW2, and based on the AP on AW explanation implies that AP will work on the Urbane when it gets AW2 - right?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...ndroid-wear-is-here-and-this-is-how-it-works/
So literally once we get AW2 on Urbane we'll get AP?
nigelhealy said:
So i've searched the forum and got an impression this might work.
I have owned AW for 2 years on my Sony SmartWatch 3, it has NFC but AW never activated AP on AW til AW2. I just today ordered a used Urbane2 which is due to get AW2, and based on the AP on AW explanation implies that AP will work on the Urbane when it gets AW2 - right?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...ndroid-wear-is-here-and-this-is-how-it-works/
So literally once we get AW2 on Urbane we'll get AP?
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That is my understanding/hope as well.
When the Android Team announced the upcoming 2.0 release on reddit, the AW team member stated in the comments NFC enabled devices, including the Sport and Urbane 2nd Edition, would be able to use Android Pay.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidWear/comments/5su6z0/slug/ddi4a7j
Also, here is a teardown photo showing the NFC chip in the 2nd Edition.
http://goo.gl/7Zjnp1
I just bought one yesterday, its pretty cool, but W2 is when it will become super useful. Why doesn't Urbane 2 have its own thread? Anyone know
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..... Why doesn't Urbane 2 have its own thread? Anyone know
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Not sure really. Maybe not as many users? A result of the recall in November 2015 of the original release? Who knows. I've had mine since the original release, two days before the recall, and still wear it daily. For my purposes, it's still the best option available for AW.
I didn't know there was a recall! I just picked mine up. Looking into it.
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I didn't know there was a recall! I just picked mine up. Looking into it.
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The original release in November 2015 was recalled. It was re-released in March/April of 2016.
It sold briefly for $299 new in November 2015 before the recall then it was released again 2016 for $360 new. That's the AT&T version pricing.
Is there a way to know if you have the recall version or the new hardware version?
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Bought mine used, trying to find a hardware number for pre-recall post.
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Is there a way to know if you have the recall version or the new hardware version?
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Bought mine used, trying to find a hardware number for pre-recall post.
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Do you have the original box? There is a SKU number on it. 6387 is the newer release. My original release has 6106 on it.
No I bought it used. Is there another way or a serial number range?
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No I bought it used. Is there another way or a serial number range?
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Hmmm I'd have to research about the serial number. They didn't sell very many originally since it was only on sale for a few days so my guess is it's the new version. I haven't had any issues with the original version.
given its 18 months later, the LG Watch Sport looks disappointing specs upgrade, seems a downgrade in battery size (why?) and yet still a big warch and only really chipset improved, given current prices the Urbane2 is about half the price for similar specs. You then have puzzle of the Huawei Watch 2 even higher price for lower specs.
Interest moment coming when AW2 out and then see if AP works. I have rooted phone, AP works (magisk) on phone but the word is not on AW.
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given its 18 months later, the LG Watch Sport looks disappointing specs upgrade, seems a downgrade in battery size (why?) and yet still a big phone and only really chipset improved, given current prices the Urbane2 is about half the price for similar specs. You then have puzzle of the Huawei Watch 2 even higher price for lower specs.
Interest moment coming when AW2 out and then see if AP works.
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If I had to replace my watch for any reason currently, I'd get the U2 again. Other than the rotating crown, the Sport doesn't offer much more for twice the price. Also, for my specific use, there isn't another watch that can provide the same functions. I like being able to forward calls to the watch and leave the phone behind during GPS recorded runs. I was also able to do this while visiting family in France because the U2 includes the 2100 band, the Sport does not. I know that's a rare need, but it was nice to have. My Truphone SIM is global so it worked with no problems.
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If I had to replace my watch for any reason currently, I'd get the U2 again. Other than the rotating crown, the Sport doesn't offer much more for twice the price. Also, for my specific use, there isn't another watch that can provide the same functions. I like being able to forward calls to the watch and leave the phone behind during GPS recorded runs. I was also able to do this while visiting family in France because the U2 includes the 2100 band, the Sport does not. I know that's a rare need, but it was nice to have. My Truphone SIM is global so it worked with no problems.
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Good to know, hadn't thought the radio bands. Although puzzling.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/PoGNC4D/lg-w200a-watch-urbane-2nd-edition-lte/france
says shouldn't get any kind of signal?
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Good to know, hadn't thought the radio bands. Although puzzling.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/PoGNC4D/lg-w200a-watch-urbane-2nd-edition-lte/france
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Yeah there are a lot of inaccuracies out there. The watch does support B1 2100 band. It definitely worked in France. Select 'specifications' at the top of this site. They don't mention B1, probably because it isn't an AT&T band, but they show support for 2100.
https://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/devices/lg-watch-urbane-2.jsp#fbid=isDV_yi8j3B
Regarding service, I'm in the united States. What sub carrier can I get a sim from and connect my watch for the cheapest? Ideally I would like Google Fi, but I need a service to add the data Sim. Wish there was a thread for confirmed carriers we can use. I heard TMobile works, but only 3g.
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Regarding service, I'm in the united States. What sub carrier can I get a sim from and connect my watch for the cheapest? Ideally I would like Google Fi, but I need a service to add the data Sim. Wish there was a thread for confirmed carriers we can use. I heard TMobile works, but only 3g.
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T-Mobile does work with their phone SIM. Some have tried their wearable SIM with little success because they won't allow a non T mobile device on the wearable plan. I originally tried H2O and Ting but couldn't get data to work and there isn't a way to adjust the APN settings. I eventually found Truphone. They are a global SIM that uses AT&T network here in the US. It's 10 cents per minute/SMS/mb with free incoming calls/texts. It's perfect for my use, but if you end up using a lot of data it could add up quickly.
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T-Mobile does work with their phone SIM. Some have tried their wearable SIM with little success because they won't allow a non T mobile device on the wearable plan. I originally tried H2O and Ting but couldn't get data to work and there isn't a way to adjust the APN settings. I eventually found Truphone. They are a global SIM that uses AT&T network here in the US. It's 10 cents per minute/SMS/mb with free incoming calls/texts. It's perfect for my use, but if you end up using a lot of data it could add up quickly.
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Do you get full LTE? Can I buy it at a store like Walmart or Target near check out?
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T-Mobile does work with their phone SIM. Some have tried their wearable SIM with little success because they won't allow a non T mobile device on the wearable plan. I originally tried H2O and Ting but couldn't get data to work and there isn't a way to adjust the APN settings. I eventually found Truphone. They are a global SIM that uses AT&T network here in the US. It's 10 cents per minute/SMS/mb with free incoming calls/texts. It's perfect for my use, but if you end up using a lot of data it could add up quickly.
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Good to know. I have ATT and T-mobile SIMs in my OnePlus3T, I was going to try both in the Urbane2 and find out the actual coverage, and then decide what to do next. I was with Straighttalk before ATT, and around here ATT tends to be better coverage than T-mobile. So if Truphone is a ATT based, usage-based for the odd time not with your mobile that might be (agreed) perfect complement. The 9c/MB is the worrying part because its free for incoming and in the context of AW its going to be incoming mostly. Notifications over LTE would add up to a few MB? What is your AW Truphone MB/month type usage off you Truphone bill?
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Do you get full LTE? Can I buy it at a store like Walmart or Target near check out?
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It does receive LTE and actually it's 9 cents per minute/sms/mb with free incoming calls/texts. They are not sold in the store as far as I know. I ordered the SIM online. It was $30 and included $15 of credit. I only activate LTE when I'm running a few times a week. I average about 1MB of data per run so it's costing me $1-$2 dollars a month. FYI, when AW 2.0 arrives it could allow for more data usage if you stream music or download apps away from the phone. I play music from the watch through bluetooth headphones so I don't plan on streaming or downloading apps on LTE.
https://www.truphone.com/us/consumer/sim/
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It does receive LTE and actually it's 9 cents per minute/sms/mb with free incoming calls/texts. They are not sold in the store as far as I know. I ordered the SIM online. It was $30 and included $15 of credit. I only activate LTE when I'm running a few times a week. I average about 1MB of data per run so it's costing me $1-$2 dollars a month. FYI, when AW 2.0 arrives it could allow for more data usage if you stream music or download apps away from the phone. I play music from the watch through bluetooth headphones so I don't plan on streaming or downloading apps on LTE.
https://www.truphone.com/us/consumer/sim/
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Looking around U.S mobile seems like an even cheaper alternative. If only using data, but doubt I'll get LTE
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Hi all, traditionally Motorola has been releasing the Droid range under the Milestone name here in England, but i havent seen this particular phone anywhere, it is branded under a different name or just simply unavailable? I love qwerty Android phones and the spec is very tempting.
Thanks.
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I did a little research and it seems the keyboard Milestones ended with the release of the Milestone 2.
you should be able to use the droid 4 in the UK with the ICS leak, you just switch it to global mode
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you should be able to use the droid 4 in the UK with the ICS leak, you just switch it to global mode
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But will it support the 3G bands used here, that's my main concern as I use HSPA on Three UK.
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But will it support the 3G bands used here, that's my main concern as I use HSPA on Three UK.
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Yes, it will support standard 3G bands. I`m using it in Russia and in Europe.
I've tested my Droid 4 in the UK on O2 (900MHz) and T-Mobile (1800MHz). I've not tested it on Three though (2100MHz). On the two networks I have tested GRPS, EDGE, 3G and HSPA all work fine!
If you fancy a trip to South Wales you can try your 3 SIM in my Droid 4 before purchase if you like
That said, if you're planning on importing this phone, why would you even stick with a contract, and if you're not stuck in a contract why would you use Three? They are awful.
Three are fantastic, I get truly unlimited data that can be tethered and a ridiculous amount of minutes and texts, not to mention I get a great signal where I live and average at about 4.5mbps speed. No other network can offer me that. Cheers for the info though ill see if I can dig up any info re: 2100mhz band.
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Huh strange, I've looked online and there is absolutely no information for a gsm version of this phone, all point to a Verizon cdma device. Never mind looks like ill be on the old Desire Z a little longer ha ha.
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Huh strange, I've looked online and there is absolutely no information for a gsm version of this phone, all point to a Verizon cdma device. Never mind looks like ill be on the old Desire Z a little longer ha ha.
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It only works in the UK if you run on the leaked ICS firmware.
See my thread for the full procedure. But I'm running just fine on a rooted stock ROM (albeit the ICS leak) on Giffgaff (O2) in the UK.
And yes, I came from a Desire Z too! Real shame how few QWERTYphones there are these days that we even have to go to the effort of importing an American CDMA phone and hacking it.
Hi peops, I'm still on the old desire z too! Nothing better in the uk for 2 years! Unbelieveable! I was also hopeing for the droid 4, but typically, it doesn't get released here. There is the slight hope of the newly leaked samsung galaxy s blaze q being released over here as it will be on tmobile, but I bet it stayes in the us, yet again. Is being announced august 15th.
Problem is, it needs 2gb ram, not just 1!! Sort it out samsung!!
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Hi peops, I'm still on the old desire z too! Nothing better in the uk for 2 years! Unbelieveable! I was also hopeing for the droid 4, but typically, it doesn't get released here. There is the slight hope of the newly leaked samsung galaxy s blaze q being released over here as it will be on tmobile, but I bet it stayes in the us, yet again. Is being announced august 15th.
Problem is, it needs 2gb ram, not just 1!! Sort it out samsung!!
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Just import one yourself. £328 for a brand new one off ebay and £35 in import duties. Still cheaper than buying a brand new contract-free phone from a UK supplier!
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Just import one yourself. £328 for a brand new one off ebay and £35 in import duties. Still cheaper than buying a brand new contract-free phone from a UK supplier!
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Thing is, I use my fone as a modem for my pc via hotspot, through tmobile, I have a 3gb contract, but is actually truly unlimited if you know the secret (which I do - just ask if u don't know). I doubt id be able to get a decent amout of txts and calls for say 10-15 a month. And I bet the payg sims don't allow unlimited data. (I currently go though 10 - 20gb a month at the mo with tmobile).
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Just import one yourself. £328 for a brand new one off ebay and £35 in import duties. Still cheaper than buying a brand new contract-free phone from a UK supplier!
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Just import one yourself. £328 for a brand new one off ebay and £35 in import duties. Still cheaper than buying a brand new contract-free phone from a UK supplier!
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Thing is, I use my fone as a modem for my pc via hotspot, through tmobile, I have a 3gb contract, but is actually truly unlimited if you know the secret (which I do - just ask if u don't know). I doubt id be able to get a decent amout of txts and calls for say 10-15 a month. And I bet thepayg sims don't allow unlimited data. (I currently go though 10 - 20gb a month at the mo with tmobile).
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Stupid phone
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Thing is, I use my fone as a modem for my pc via hotspot, through tmobile, I have a 3gb contract, but is actually truly unlimited if you know the secret (which I do - just ask if u don't know). I doubt id be able to get a decent amout of txts and calls for say 10-15 a month. And I bet the payg sims don't allow unlimited data. (I currently go though 10 - 20gb a month at the mo with tmobile).
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I'm told that with giffgaff you can get away with 750MB per day before they start getting funny with you and accusing you of tethering. Not tried it yet.
The Droid 4 works fine on T-Mobile though. I have tested it before I ported my number.
Are T-Mobile still offering that 3gb contract to new customers? I couldn't get it back at the start of 2011 when I switched to them.
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I'm told that with giffgaff you can get away with 750GB per day before they start getting funny with you and accusing you of tethering. Not tried it yet.
The Droid 4 works fine on T-Mobile though. I have tested it before I ported my number.
Are T-Mobile still offering that 3gb contract to new customers? I couldn't get it back at the start of 2011 when I switched to them.
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750GB per day? I think that counts as heavy usage!
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I'm told that with giffgaff you can get away with 750GB per day before they start getting funny with you and accusing you of tethering. Not tried it yet.
The Droid 4 works fine on T-Mobile though. I have tested it before I ported my number.
Are T-Mobile still offering that 3gb contract to new customers? I couldn't get it back at the start of 2011 when I switched to them.
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Hi, no they are not, I'm near the end of a 2 year contract, 1gb is the max now I think, but it doesn't really matter as when they restrict your usage from 4pm - midnight, all you have to do is turn flight mode on and off and bingo! No restrictions!
So simple, but it really does work!
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750GB per day? I think that counts as heavy usage!
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Typo.. I meant MB per day!
Today I posted this on G+:
https://plus.google.com/104522596589171041648/posts/JfBDxdTAjSR
I'd be willing to place down a wager that the +Verizon Wireless and +AT&T variants of the Galaxy S5 will have the download booster feature disabled.
I can't imagine those companies taking very kindly to the idea of using WiFi and LTE simultaneously, just due to the fear of pissed off customers going over their data plans because they had no idea what they were doing. Plus it has the real potential to create even more usage on their networks, which most bigger carriers don't seem to like.
Considering how providers like to push people to use WiFi whenever possible (doesn't ever carrier have a WiFi finder app these days?), yeah, I don't see the big boys taking too kindly to the download booster. I guess we'll find out in a little under 2 weeks.
If my hunch is correct, I'd highly suggest that anyone owning affected variants scream and complain to anyone who will listen. This will hopefully lead to the guilty carriers releasing statements saying "The exclusion of the download booster functionality was an oversight and not intentional. We will fix this issue in a future software update."
Any thoughts?
It better not be. But yes, I can see them doing that. I say, it's my data, let me use it anyway I want to.
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Well AT&T's sure doesn't mention download booster anywhere on the S5 page. I swear to God if they disabled it I will raise hell. Such a great feature too.
But these larger carriers have to much control. They really shouldn't be able to touch any device or modify it. Only Samsung should do that. If T-Mobile didn't have such spotty coverage by me, I'd be on them in a second ordering my S5 instead of ATT.
Ordering the non carrier version of the S5 isn't an option either because it so conveniently doesn't support bands 4 and 17. WOW
That's because the unlocked international version isn't intended for the US market. It's intended to be sold at retail in other countries and the LTE bands that it suppers reflects that.
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I don't see why they would do this. If a customer goes over their data usage, that's more money in the carrier's pocket. Playing ignorance isn't an excuse for going over your limit. I don't see why a carrier would hand-hold customers on this issue. Not only that, but I don't see Samsung allowing them to do this, considering this is a pretty major selling point for the S5.
I could be wrong but i would imagine there is a setting you can disable to prevent yourself from constantly using both. So it should be in the purchasers hands hence no reason for AT&T to disable it to prevent data overages. That being said, AT&T is a company that likes to piss everyone off and remove features that are major selling points just because they can.
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I don't see why they would do this. If a customer goes over their data usage, that's more money in the carrier's pocket. Playing ignorance isn't an excuse for going over your limit. I don't see why a carrier would hand-hold customers on this issue. Not only that, but I don't see Samsung allowing them to do this, considering this is a pretty major selling point for the S5.
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I can definitely see them doing this. Let me tell you why. AT&T is the only carrier that has brainwashed people in thinking WIFI is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I've often had AT&T reps tell me, ya know you really should use WIFI instead of your data. I was like why do I pay for it then? I still have the original AT&T $30 unlimited data plan for smartphones so I don't care, but even with that, they try to tell me to use wifi. I believe its because they don't want the same disaster to happen to their network that happened back in 2009. The network overloaded with all the iPhones. Nowadays, the network is amazing and has no problem with capacity. But I think they instilled it into all their rep's heads to make people use WIFI all the time. I have passed an AT&T store while driving and my phone connects to their crappy WIFI. I even argued with one rep a while back that my mobile internet connection is more stable than their crappy in-store WIFI network.
So yea thats my two cents. I really hope they don't eliminate this awesome feature. I pre-ordered the device on AT&T and will be the first one to post if they did or not when I get it April 8
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I can definitely see them doing this. Let me tell you why. AT&T is the only carrier that has brainwashed people in thinking WIFI is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I've often had AT&T reps tell me, ya know you really should use WIFI instead of your data. I was like why do I pay for it then? I still have the original AT&T $30 unlimited data plan for smartphones so I don't care, but even with that, they try to tell me to use wifi. I believe its because they don't want the same disaster to happen to their network that happened back in 2009. The network overloaded with all the iPhones. Nowadays, the network is amazing and has no problem with capacity. But I think they instilled it into all their rep's heads to make people use WIFI all the time. I have passed an AT&T store while driving and my phone connects to their crappy WIFI. I even argued with one rep a while back that my mobile internet connection is more stable than their crappy in-store WIFI network.
So yea thats my two cents. I really hope they don't eliminate this awesome feature. I pre-ordered the device on AT&T and will be the first one to post if they did or not when I get it April 8
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I preordered an AT&T GS5 as well. I don't think it will replace my Z Ultra GPE as a daily driver, but I'm definitely going to have fun with it.
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That's because the unlocked international version isn't intended for the US market. It's intended to be sold at retail in other countries and the LTE bands that it suppers reflects that.
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Yea I know. Part of me just wishes there was only 1 GS5 that was a world phone that supported every kind of LTE network.
I did use the International Galaxy S3 years ago on AT&T and it worked great. No bloat, fast updates, and a black dialer. I may sound contradicting here, but now may actually be a great time to buy an HSPA+ only device. The HSPA+ network works great and isn't congested anymore. I occasionally test it out on my iPhone 5S since you can turn LTE off. I always get about 7-10mbps down. Even during calls speeds are now great. But when your getting 50mbps on LTE going back to H+ kinda hurts lol.
I ordered the white GS5. Never owned a white galaxy before. Cant wait to get it.
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Yea I know. Part of me just wishes there was only 1 GS5 that was a world phone that supported every kind of LTE network.
I did use the International Galaxy S3 years ago on AT&T and it worked great. No bloat, fast updates, and a black dialer. I may sound contradicting here, but now may actually be a great time to buy an HSPA+ only device. The HSPA+ network works great and isn't congested anymore. I occasionally test it out on my iPhone 5S since you can turn LTE off. I always get about 7-10mbps down. Even during calls speeds are now great. But when your getting 50mbps on LTE going back to H+ kinda hurts lol.
I ordered the white GS5. Never owned a white galaxy before. Cant wait to get it.
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I ordered a white one too. The GS4 GPE only comes in white so I'm used to white Galaxy devices now. haha
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This feature is a key selling point in Samsung's walk through of the phone, so I'd say it won't be blocked. My thought was actually that I will never use this feature unless it's an emergency" (I. e. need new rom ASAP) or I have a lot of data left for the month. Otherwise, AT&T could be making some nice dough off of people going over their data limits.
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This feature is a key selling point in Samsung's walk through of the phone, so I'd say it won't be blocked. My thought was actually that I will never use this feature unless it's an emergency" (I. e. need new rom ASAP) or I have a lot of data left for the month. Otherwise, AT&T could be making some nice dough off of people going over their data limits.
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I am hoping that there is a way to disable it, as I really don't need it.
As it turns out, I changed my mind.. Cancelled my order and ordered HTC One M8
http://techknowzone.com/how-to-use-download-booster-in-samsung-galaxy-s5/
According to that article, not only can you disable it, but it actually doesnt impact normal web browsing or downloading small files. All the more reason AT&T has no excuse to disable it. For the average consumer, you wont got over your data simply because its on. If you arent downloading files over 30mb, it does nothing.
I'm sure the feature isn't there on the store models. Maybe because no sim card or active data connection
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Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.
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Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.
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Your local AT&T store has a GS5 out on the floor? That doesn't sound right.
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Your local AT&T store has a GS5 out on the floor? That doesn't sound right.
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yes its out. also got some pics
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yes its out. also got some pics
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Wow... Well hopefully the floor model isn't running final software and there will be an OTA before launch. I'm not going to freak out just yet.
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Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.
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If they disabled that feature then I think its time we start retaliating. I probably will send my pre-order back and go with the International version. The LTE networks are getting bogged down nowadays, while the HSPA+ network is doing great.
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If they disabled that feature then I think its time we start retaliating. I probably will send my pre-order back and go with the International version. The LTE networks are getting bogged down nowadays, while the HSPA+ network is doing great.
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I'm going to head over to the biggest corporate store in the area tonight and see if they have a GS5 on the floor. If so, I'll try to verify it. If it's true, you can bet your ass I'm canceling my preorder.
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Some pics from the store today
Sorry they came up inverted.
Looking on the LG web site, it appears that the LG Watch Sport it is only available currently in the US and Korea.
In the US model W280A (AT&T) or W280V (Verizon)
In Korea W281 (with a choice of 3 difference carriers)
If you look at the specs of each one they are slightly different with regard to the frequencies/bands they can use, the frequencies/bands listed, tie up with the country/carrier they are sold for.
Now with regard to smartphones, and those with Qualcomm Snapdragon processors, it appears that it is possible to reprogrammed the smartphone to different frequencies/bands, including LG smartphones. This to me indicates that the hardware is all the same, but only certain frequencies/bands are 'switched on' depending on the country/network carrier they are sold for.
Now seeing as the LG Watch Sport also has a Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, it seems reasonable to me that it might be possible to 'switch on' frequencies/bands on this watch like you can on a smartphone....
How you do this however, being android wear and not android, I don't know!
The reason for this?
I have a W280A in the UK, and it won't work with the UK frequency/bands, but i'm sure the hardware is capable, if the frequency/band selection can be changed in software, somehow...
I have read, that if you put an activated Verizon SIM in an AT&T watch, that everything will work as it should eventually. I would like to verify that.
I was able to take an activated SIM out of my Verizon tablet, and put it in a Watch Sport that I bought from AT&T. One, becuase it was cheaper, and two because you can get them from Verizon or Google right now. It worked perfectly.
The AT&T/Google Store edition of the Watch Sport cannot be added into the VZW DMD as it is not on the list of supported devices. trust me on this.
Whenever you stick an active SIM into the AT&T/Google Store Watch Sport it will identify in the switch and the billing system as a "Non-VZW Device". cellular data is the only thing that will work from this.
The only way the AT&T/Google Store version of the watch can be semi used on Verizon is to use Integrated Calling & Integrated Messaging. these are services that essentially forward calls and sms/mms messages from an active VZW phone to another device with Message+ and an active connection to the internet. this can be done on a wide array of devices from wi-fi only tablets to your desktop browser. the Watch Sport does not need to be active on a line of service to get this functionality enabled. you would just be able to use it anywhere that you don't have wi-fi. do not confuse this with what you will get from the VZW version. with it you will not be tied to Message+ and the Watch will be able to send/receive calls and text messages from it's own MDN as well as from your connected Phone.
At this point do not waste your money on buying the AT&T/Google Store version of the Watch Sport with the expectation that you will ever get it to work the way that the Verizon version does with VZW service. you will end up disappointed.
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Addtionally if you have doubt on the information I have provided please follow up on this link,
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carrier-compatibility/22YZUj/lg-w280a-watch-sport-lte/verizon-wireless-united-states
It's been announced that Verizon have cancelled the LG watch sport from their line up. So it never made it in store afterall.
lewis952 said:
The AT&T/Google Store edition of the Watch Sport cannot be added into the VZW DMD as it is not on the list of supported devices. trust my on this.
Whenever you stick an active SIM into the AT&T/Google Store Watch Sport it will identify in the switch and the billing system as a "Non-VZW Device". cellular data is the only thing that will work from this.
The only way the AT&T/Google Store version of the watch can be semi used on Verizon is to use Integrated Calling & Integrated Messaging. these are services that essentially forward calls and sms/mms messages from an active VZW phone to another device with Message+ and an active connection to the internet. this can be done on a wide array of devices from wi-fi only tablets to your desktop browser. the Watch Sport does not need to be active on a line of service to get this functionality enabled. you would just be able to use it anywhere that you don't have wi-fi. do not confuse this with what you will get from the VZW version. with it you will not be tied to Message+ and the Watch will be able to send/receive calls and text messages from it's own MDN as well as from your connected Phone.
At this point do not waste your money on buying the AT&T/Google Store version of the Watch Sport with the expectation that you will ever get it to work the way that the Verizon version does with VZW service. you will end up disappointed.
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https://www.frequencycheck.com/carrier-compatibility/22YZUj/lg-w280a-watch-sport-lte/verizon-wireless-united-states
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This is exactly what I did, and the watch works perfectly. It very much does work. The fact that the site says that it's an "Non-VZW Device" means nothing. All that means is you didn't buy it from them. Me Pixel that I bought from Google says the same thing. You can order an activated SIM over the phone from Verizon, and they will mail it to you. My AT&T Watch Sport work as it should on Verizon.
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This is exactly what I did, and the watch works perfectly. It very much does work. The fact that the site says that it's a "Non-VZW Device" means nothing. All that means is you didn't buy it from them. Me Pixel that I bought from Google says the same thing. You can order an activated SIM over the phone from Verizon, and they will mail it to you. My AT&T Watch Sport work as it should on Verizon.
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How does your watch work perfectly on vzw network?? When the AT&T variant has radio bands that are not supported on Verizon network?.. it must be just connected to either the 2g network or 3gnetwork then.
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How does your watch work perfectly on vzw network?? When the AT&T variant has radio bands that are not supported on Verizon network?.. it must be just connected to either the 2g network or 3gnetwork then.
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^^^ Yes, this is EXACTLY correct. I have the ATT watch, it can see a Verizon sim but it doesnt allow you to take or make calls or texts with your phone off...like mine currently does connected to the ATT network.
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How does your watch work perfectly on vzw network?? When the AT&T variant has radio bands that are not supported on Verizon network?.. it must be just connected to either the 2g network or 3gnetwork then.
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No, under network type, it says LTE.
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^^^ Yes, this is EXACTLY correct. I have the ATT watch, it can see a Verizon sim but it doesnt allow you to take or make calls or texts with your phone off...like mine currently does connected to the ATT network.
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I've made calls on mine with my phone off. It works as it should.
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No, under network type, it says LTE.
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I've made calls on mine with my phone off. It works as it should.
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Its hard for me to believe honestly. I was on Verizon when I first was gifted the att watch and spent hours with Verizon trying to get it to work and when you check the imei on this site: https://www.verizonwireless.com/bring-your-own-device/, it STILL tells me my device is not compatible with the Verizon network? So unless you are a wizard, I'm not sure why it works for you and not anyone else...
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Its hard for me to believe honestly. I was on Verizon when I first was gifted the att watch and spent hours with Verizon trying to get it to work and when you check the imei on this site: https://www.verizonwireless.com/bring-your-own-device/, it STILL tells me my device is not compatible with the Verizon network? So unless you are a wizard, I'm not sure why it works for you and not anyone else...
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Yes, it does say the IMEI is not recognized, but if you put a SIM that has already been activated, it will work just fine. I'm not the only one doing this. There are people on Reddit that are doing this too. Go over to the Android Wear thread and check it out.
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Yes, it does say the IMEI is not recognized, but if you put a SIM that has already been activated, it will work just fine. I'm not the only one doing this. There are people on Reddit that are doing this too. Go over to the Android Wear thread and check it out.
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so why when I put the verizon sim from my Galaxy s2 tablet in, it doesn't work? it works on my tablet though? I'm at a loss. Im on att now so I really dont care that much...just frustrating spending hours on the phone and in chat rooms with Verizon and not 1 of them could make it happen for me, all of them said it was incompatible due to the radios being different.
What am I doing differently? I mean, there isn't much to it.
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so why when I put the verizon sim from my Galaxy s2 tablet in, it doesn't work? it works on my tablet though? I'm at a loss. Im on att now so I really dont care that much...just frustrating spending hours on the phone and in chat rooms with Verizon and not 1 of them could make it happen for me, all of them said it was incompatible due to the radios being different.
What am I doing differently? I mean, there isn't much to it.
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It did take me some time tinkering with it, and yes the people at Verizon are worthless, but after a few reboots, it finally provisioned and started working. I powered off my pixel, and made calls, sent and received texts, and got email. I don't know now what else I could ask it to do. There was a phone setup app I had to run through.
Using developer options, and ADB debugging maybe, could this guide be used to change the LTE bands on our watches?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
Did anyone try to change the bands with the above guide?
Hi all,
My wife and I are thinking that project fi might be too expensive for us with the amount of data that we use. If we Port over to T-Mobile, will my wife's Moto X4 work and be full featured? I mean things like simultaneous talk/surf (very important) and wifi calling?
I have the Pixel 2 XL and I'm pretty sure that it would work on TMobile with all of the above mentioned features.
Thank you!
Yes, it will work. I used mine on TMO briefly. My wife used her Pixel 1 as well and all features work as expected.
Neither of your phones has the new Band 71 that TMO has started to roll out, but for the next couple of years you should be fine. I believe that there is only one phone available right now that will work on Band 71.
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Yes, it will work. I used mine on TMO briefly. My wife used her Pixel 1 as well and all features work as expected.
Neither of your phones has the new Band 71 that TMO has started to roll out, but for the next couple of years you should be fine. I believe that there is only one phone available right now that will work on Band 71.
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Great! What carrier did you end up with?
Also, when you tried the Moto X4, was that the Android One version?
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Great! What carrier did you end up with?
Also, when you tried the Moto X4, was that the Android One version?
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I've got an Xfinity Mobile (Verizon) SIM in it right now. I purchased the phone from FI, so it is the Android One version. Fi trained me to minimize data usage, and I'm able to stay within the 100MB free allowance at XM. Total cost per month is $2.39 taxes/fees. Yes, I am a skinflint.
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I've got an Xfinity Mobile (Verizon) SIM in it right now. I purchased the phone from FI, so it is the Android One version. Fi trained me to minimize data usage, and I'm able to stay within the 100MB free allowance at XM. Total cost per month is $2.39 taxes/fees.
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Wait, how did you get an XM sim without buying one of their phones? If I can bring my A1 MotoX4 to XM, I'm switching.
They had the LG Charge phone on sale for $1 in August so I bought one. The ultimate cheapskate deal! The LG is surprisingly good with tremendous battery life, but I use Android Pay and the LG doesn't do NFC. I use the LG now as a remote control for video, and also keep it around in case I have trouble with the SIM since XM will not deal with BYOD at all.
The X4 works fine with the Verizon SIM that XM uses although I've heard of trouble with visual VM. That isn't a problem for me since I use a Google Voice number for everything and never use the XM number. XM doesn't support wifi calling either, but since I'm using GV that isn't a problem for me either. My use case may be atypical, but for me XM and X4 work fine together.
Hi,
I just got a OnePlus 10 Pro. I haven't yet activated it and gotten in yet, but I'm also moving to T-mobile from Sprint/T-Mobile.
The plan I'll be on has a 5GB hotspot allowance. I'd like to set my phone up to bypass the hotspot allowance and treat it has normal data use from my phone.
Can anyone help direct me in how to do this? The phone is unlocked, and I'm guessing I'll need to root it first, but any help from anyone on how to get this going would be great.
Thanks.
Sounds like another t mobile limitation..
Send it back when you get it and grab a pixel 7 pro... Read through some of the threads about t mobile, they really do sound like an awful company, I wouldn't line their pockets, just like I wouldn't line OnePlus anymore.
There used to be a limitation on three devices here in the UK, their sales slumped and they stopped doing it, now their phones are unlocked and open..
I'll be honest, from what I've read it seems t mobile locks their phones up pretty good, you could maybe look into changing region but that's a whole other can of worms and in all fairness not something you should be doing with a brand new phone..
Have a look about through the 10 pro threads and you'll see what I mean...
There may be a magisk module that allows you to use your data, but have never needed it myself
dladz said:
Sounds like another t mobile limitation..
Send it back when you get it and grab a pixel 7 pro... Read through some of the threads about t mobile, they really do sound like an awful company, I wouldn't line their pockets, just like I wouldn't line OnePlus anymore.
There used to be a limitation on three devices here in the UK, their sales slumped and they stopped doing it, now their phones are unlocked and open..
I'll be honest, from what I've read it seems t mobile locks their phones up pretty good, you could maybe look into changing region but that's a whole other can of worms and in all fairness not something you should be doing with a brand new phone..
Have a look about through the 10 pro threads and you'll see what I mean...
There may be a magisk module that allows you to use your data, but have never needed it myself
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Eh, clearly you are not from the US
T-Mobile is by far the best carrier for devs if you buy a carrier locked device. VZW and ATT are by far worse, and Dish is still a joke of a network. Check out VZW and you'll see that even if you buy a Verizon carrier Pixel, you will NEVER be able to unlock it (without an exploit, see Pixel 3). This is unfortunately the Android situation in the US. The NE2217 actually allows you to oem unlock and get the unlock code from oneplus prior to getting the SIM unlocked, which was unheard of in the past. Too bad oneplus decided to **** that up by not having a MSM.
Regarding the OP's question: He's on an unlimited plan called Magenta, which has unlimited data but limited tethering of 5GB. No device sets limit on this, because T-Mobile measures hotspot usage with TTL value on the TCP packet. Technically, you can set the TTL to 65 on devices 1 hop from the phone and the network will never know it's tethered, but obviously you'll need to be using a device where you can modify the TTL. Some people use a 2nd router to achieve it, you'll find a lot of resources about this online.
dladz said:
Sounds like another t mobile limitation..
Send it back when you get it and grab a pixel 7 pro... Read through some of the threads about t mobile, they really do sound like an awful company, I wouldn't line their pockets, just like I wouldn't line OnePlus anymore.
There used to be a limitation on three devices here in the UK, their sales slumped and they stopped doing it, now their phones are unlocked and open..
I'll be honest, from what I've read it seems t mobile locks their phones up pretty good, you could maybe look into changing region but that's a whole other can of worms and in all fairness not something you should be doing with a brand new phone..
Have a look about through the 10 pro threads and you'll see what I mean...
There may be a magisk module that allows you to use your data, but have never needed it myself
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So line Google's pockets?
craznazn said:
Eh, clearly you are not from the US
T-Mobile is by far the best carrier for devs if you buy a carrier locked device. VZW and ATT are by far worse, and Dish is still a joke of a network. Check out VZW and you'll see that even if you buy a Verizon carrier Pixel, you will NEVER be able to unlock it (without an exploit, see Pixel 3). This is unfortunately the Android situation in the US. The NE2217 actually allows you to oem unlock and get the unlock code from oneplus prior to getting the SIM unlocked, which was unheard of in the past. Too bad oneplus decided to **** that up by not having a MSM.
Regarding the OP's question: He's on an unlimited plan called Magenta, which has unlimited data but limited tethering of 5GB. No device sets limit on this, because T-Mobile measures hotspot usage with TTL value on the TCP packet. Technically, you can set the TTL to 65 on devices 1 hop from the phone and the network will never know it's tethered, but obviously you'll need to be using a device where you can modify the TTL. Some people use a 2nd router to achieve it, you'll find a lot of resources about this online.
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Global would be an improvement over t mobiles mess...
No I'm not in the US gladly, I wouldn't touch t mobile based on what I've read about it.
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Global would be an improvement over t mobiles mess...
No I'm not in the US gladly, I wouldn't touch t mobile based on what I've read about it.
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We have a triopoly. Better than Canada though. If you can't stand tmo based on what you've seen on here, you would just not have any cell service and any discussion over phones would be moot lol.
i use pdanet+
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We have a triopoly. Better than Canada though. If you can't stand tmo based on what you've seen on here, you would just not have any cell service and any discussion over phones would be moot lol.
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I have no idea what their network is but surely they offer sim only, in which case I'd buy the phone I wanted then contract the SIM I wanted....this has to be an option in every country.
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I have no idea what their network is but surely they offer sim only, in which case I'd buy the phone I wanted then contract the SIM I wanted....this has to be an option in every country.
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Yeah that doesn't answer the OP's question at all. You can buy a NE2215, or a U1 Samsung, or unlocked Pixel, or an iPhone. Doesn't help that the network will measure hotspot usage the same way, with the TCP packet's TTL value.
And also to resolve your confusion. In the US, carriers do not sell SIM free devices ever. You need to buy from the manufacturer directly.
OP wants to know how to defeat network hotspot measurement. Ranting about how the carrier locks down the phone or even the manufacturer is not helpful. g96818's solution might work, but it's not guaranteed.
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Yeah that doesn't answer the OP's question at all. You can buy a NE2215, or a U1 Samsung, or unlocked Pixel, or an iPhone. Doesn't help that the network will measure hotspot usage the same way, with the TCP packet's TTL value.
And also to resolve your confusion. In the US, carriers do not sell SIM free devices ever. You need to buy from the manufacturer directly.
OP wants to know how to defeat network hotspot measurement. Ranting about how the carrier locks down the phone or even the manufacturer is not helpful. g96818's solution might work, but it's not guaranteed.
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last i used it, pdanet+ has a module to block t-mobile, but you need to use it in tether mode. it's been a while since i needed to tether, buy looks like it might work via wifi now.
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Yeah that doesn't answer the OP's question at all. You can buy a NE2215, or a U1 Samsung, or unlocked Pixel, or an iPhone. Doesn't help that the network will measure hotspot usage the same way, with the TCP packet's TTL value.
And also to resolve your confusion. In the US, carriers do not sell SIM free devices ever. You need to buy from the manufacturer directly.
OP wants to know how to defeat network hotspot measurement. Ranting about how the carrier locks down the phone or even the manufacturer is not helpful. g96818's solution might work, but it's not guaranteed.
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You need to chill lad...
T-Mobile seems to be the only network selling a device that's a massive ballache to do anything with.
Also you're suggesting you can't buy a device SIM free??
Just checked with Verizon. They offer the device SIM free so your chatting bubbles pal
My point is don't buy from T-Mobile, ever... Why would you if this is what they do to you? They do not offer a SIM free device, here in the UK we used to have EE do the same thing with mobile hotspot when it was called T-mobile then they need with orange.
People just stopped using them for that reason, it promoted the other networks like Three and even Vodafone. Soon as the then merged companies realised this they stopped doing it, as well as locking down bootloaders.. So the answer to the question is to swerve them believe it or not.
@Strawboy good luck with your phone buddy, my stance is rigidly within sending it back, T-Mobile sound awful mate..
There may be a magisk module or otherwise that may help but you shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to use your phone. That's nuts.
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You need to chill lad...
T-Mobile seems to be the only network selling a device that's a massive ballache to do anything with.
Also you're suggesting you can't buy a device SIM free??
Really?
I do not believe you at all.
My point is don't buy from T-Mobile, ever... Why would you if this is what they do to you?
@Strawboy good luck with your phone buddy, my stance is rigidly within sending it back, T-Mobile sound awful mate..
There may be a magisk module or otherwise that may help but you shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to use your phone. That's nuts.
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the tether limit isn't based on the device they sell, it's across all devices regardless if it's sim unlocked or not. In the past, you would edit the build prop and add one line to the global tables to bypass the tether check, but google changed that several android generations ago so now only pdanet+ was working for me.
It all depends on the plan your carrier offered. No carrier in the US offers unlimited tethering anymore and those lucky few who have it are all grandfathered plans that the carrier cannot change.
as far as i know, t-mobile has a bunch of restrictions, but it's also the cheapest, offers free 5G (vice an upgrade by other carriers), and offers unlimited data plans.
g96818 said:
the tether limit isn't based on the device they sell, it's across all devices regardless if it's sim unlocked or not. In the past, you would edit the build prop and add one line to the global tables to bypass the tether check, but google changed that several android generations ago so now only pdanet+ was working for me.
It all depends on the plan your carrier offered. No carrier in the US offers unlimited tethering anymore and those lucky few who have it are all grandfathered plans that the carrier cannot change.
as far as i know, t-mobile has a bunch of restrictions, but it's also the cheapest, offers free 5G (vice an upgrade by other carriers), and offers unlimited data plans.
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I'm aware that they capture data to identify hotspot usage.
Seems that Verizon offer unlimited, after an allotted amount of data they reduce the speed but it's still unlimited..
If you're still getting 50-100Mb then that's perfectly fine...
As does t mobile.
3G max speed is 42Mb down... That's perfectly fine for most people tbh.
Seeing as it's 3G in 2022 it should max out.
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I'm aware that they capture data to identify hotspot usage.
Seems that Verizon offer unlimited, after an allotted amount of data they reduce the speed but it's still unlimited..
If you're still getting 50-100Mb then that's perfectly fine...
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didn't realize verizon changed their plans to compete with t-mobile.
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As does t mobile.
3G max speed is 42Mb down... That's perfectly fine for most people tbh.
Seeing as it's 3G in 2022 it should max out.
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I will test that 40 gb hot spot limit and see if the speed drops afterwards. didn't realize they changed that. was only 5 gb tether when i signed up for the plan. it'll probably drop to 4G
btw, the unlimited i was talking about is without speed reduction.
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didn't realize verizon changed their plans to compete with t-mobile.
I will test that 40 gb hot spot limit and see if the speed drops afterwards. didn't realize they changed that. was only 5 gb tether when i signed up for the plan. it'll probably drop to 4G
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If it's there its there give it a whirl.
Tbh they probably do something similar in the UK but just lie to us and say it's "unlimited"
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dladz said:
As does t mobile.
3G max speed is 42Mb down... That's perfectly fine for most people tbh.
Seeing as it's 3G in 2022 it should max out.
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Holy spirit man, not only do you not know the answer to the OP's question other than aimlessly suggesting "magisk module", you decide to go to arms about market environments that you know nothing about. I don't tell you what's what in the UK, and you don't get to spread misguided misinformation for the US market.
"T-Mobile seems to be the only network selling a device that's a massive ballache to do anything with."
No, I've already stated this. Both ATT and VZW in the US lock their swans down more than TMO. TMO is by far the most dev friendly carrier if you wanted to get a carrier device. Buy manufacturer unlocked if you must, but if you want carrier deals, you are going to have the best option with TMO.
"My point is don't buy from T-Mobile, ever... Why would you if this is what they do to you?"
The phone is free or nearly free, that's why people put up with carrier phones, because of carrier deals. IDK about you, but I'm willing to go through the trouble of hacking up my devices than to pay an additional $800-$1000.
"Just checked with Verizon. They offer the device SIM free so your chatting bubbles pal"
Clueless reps at all 3 carriers will promise the flowering world, esp overseas chat reps. VERIZON DOES NOT EVER SELL SIM FREE, All VZW devices (even fully paid) will be SIM locked for 60 days as an "anti-fraud" measure. This even includes Verizon MVNOs. https://www.verizon.com/support/device-unlocking-policy/
Oh, and good luck ever accessing the bootloader of a VZW device.
"3G max speed is 42Mb down... That's perfectly fine for most people tbh."
"If you're still getting 50-100Mb then that's perfectly fine..."
Both offer unlimited at throttled speeds. Don't assume speed based on the technology. 50-100mbps isn't even normal on a good day for VZW LTE or DSS 5G
Verizon: After exceeding 50 GB/mo of 5G Ultra Wideband, 5G Nationwide, or 4G LTE data, you can still use hotspot at lower speeds of 3 Mbps when on 5G Ultra Wideband and 600 Kbps when on 5G Nationwide / 4G LTE for the rest of the month.
T-Mobile: "3G", but it is 600 Kbps on Magenta / Magenta Max
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Anyways, the OP's question's been answered, so I'm out. There are plenty of wireless hacking forums out there that can teach you to bypass restrictions that are against XDA rules and generally don't work on phones but other LTE/NR devices, Google it and you'll find it.
[kind reminder] People can get so passionate about their view on things, it's both amazing and frightening sometimes. Don't forget the person behind the username. [/kind reminder]
Thanks for the replies thus far.
I am currently using easytether and Netshare, and both work pretty well for me. I would just love to be able to use the native option without third party apps.
I had read about editing the build prop in the past but never had the chance to try it out.
I'll look into the TTL/TCP comment that was made as well.
Thanks!
Strawboy said:
Thanks for the replies thus far.
I am currently using easytether and Netshare, and both work pretty well for me. I would just love to be able to use the native option without third party apps.
I had read about editing the build prop in the past but never had the chance to try it out.
I'll look into the TTL/TCP comment that was made as well.
Thanks!
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that got patched ages ago, plus you can't access the build prop on this phone.