Looking on the LG web site, it appears that the LG Watch Sport it is only available currently in the US and Korea.
In the US model W280A (AT&T) or W280V (Verizon)
In Korea W281 (with a choice of 3 difference carriers)
If you look at the specs of each one they are slightly different with regard to the frequencies/bands they can use, the frequencies/bands listed, tie up with the country/carrier they are sold for.
Now with regard to smartphones, and those with Qualcomm Snapdragon processors, it appears that it is possible to reprogrammed the smartphone to different frequencies/bands, including LG smartphones. This to me indicates that the hardware is all the same, but only certain frequencies/bands are 'switched on' depending on the country/network carrier they are sold for.
Now seeing as the LG Watch Sport also has a Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, it seems reasonable to me that it might be possible to 'switch on' frequencies/bands on this watch like you can on a smartphone....
How you do this however, being android wear and not android, I don't know!
The reason for this?
I have a W280A in the UK, and it won't work with the UK frequency/bands, but i'm sure the hardware is capable, if the frequency/band selection can be changed in software, somehow...
I have read, that if you put an activated Verizon SIM in an AT&T watch, that everything will work as it should eventually. I would like to verify that.
I was able to take an activated SIM out of my Verizon tablet, and put it in a Watch Sport that I bought from AT&T. One, becuase it was cheaper, and two because you can get them from Verizon or Google right now. It worked perfectly.
The AT&T/Google Store edition of the Watch Sport cannot be added into the VZW DMD as it is not on the list of supported devices. trust me on this.
Whenever you stick an active SIM into the AT&T/Google Store Watch Sport it will identify in the switch and the billing system as a "Non-VZW Device". cellular data is the only thing that will work from this.
The only way the AT&T/Google Store version of the watch can be semi used on Verizon is to use Integrated Calling & Integrated Messaging. these are services that essentially forward calls and sms/mms messages from an active VZW phone to another device with Message+ and an active connection to the internet. this can be done on a wide array of devices from wi-fi only tablets to your desktop browser. the Watch Sport does not need to be active on a line of service to get this functionality enabled. you would just be able to use it anywhere that you don't have wi-fi. do not confuse this with what you will get from the VZW version. with it you will not be tied to Message+ and the Watch will be able to send/receive calls and text messages from it's own MDN as well as from your connected Phone.
At this point do not waste your money on buying the AT&T/Google Store version of the Watch Sport with the expectation that you will ever get it to work the way that the Verizon version does with VZW service. you will end up disappointed.
---------- Post added at 09:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:18 AM ----------
Addtionally if you have doubt on the information I have provided please follow up on this link,
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carrier-compatibility/22YZUj/lg-w280a-watch-sport-lte/verizon-wireless-united-states
It's been announced that Verizon have cancelled the LG watch sport from their line up. So it never made it in store afterall.
lewis952 said:
The AT&T/Google Store edition of the Watch Sport cannot be added into the VZW DMD as it is not on the list of supported devices. trust my on this.
Whenever you stick an active SIM into the AT&T/Google Store Watch Sport it will identify in the switch and the billing system as a "Non-VZW Device". cellular data is the only thing that will work from this.
The only way the AT&T/Google Store version of the watch can be semi used on Verizon is to use Integrated Calling & Integrated Messaging. these are services that essentially forward calls and sms/mms messages from an active VZW phone to another device with Message+ and an active connection to the internet. this can be done on a wide array of devices from wi-fi only tablets to your desktop browser. the Watch Sport does not need to be active on a line of service to get this functionality enabled. you would just be able to use it anywhere that you don't have wi-fi. do not confuse this with what you will get from the VZW version. with it you will not be tied to Message+ and the Watch will be able to send/receive calls and text messages from it's own MDN as well as from your connected Phone.
At this point do not waste your money on buying the AT&T/Google Store version of the Watch Sport with the expectation that you will ever get it to work the way that the Verizon version does with VZW service. you will end up disappointed.
---------- Post added at 09:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:18 AM ----------
Addtionally if you have doubt on the information I have provided please follow up on this link,
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carrier-compatibility/22YZUj/lg-w280a-watch-sport-lte/verizon-wireless-united-states
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is exactly what I did, and the watch works perfectly. It very much does work. The fact that the site says that it's an "Non-VZW Device" means nothing. All that means is you didn't buy it from them. Me Pixel that I bought from Google says the same thing. You can order an activated SIM over the phone from Verizon, and they will mail it to you. My AT&T Watch Sport work as it should on Verizon.
jmartin72 said:
This is exactly what I did, and the watch works perfectly. It very much does work. The fact that the site says that it's a "Non-VZW Device" means nothing. All that means is you didn't buy it from them. Me Pixel that I bought from Google says the same thing. You can order an activated SIM over the phone from Verizon, and they will mail it to you. My AT&T Watch Sport work as it should on Verizon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How does your watch work perfectly on vzw network?? When the AT&T variant has radio bands that are not supported on Verizon network?.. it must be just connected to either the 2g network or 3gnetwork then.
lewis952 said:
How does your watch work perfectly on vzw network?? When the AT&T variant has radio bands that are not supported on Verizon network?.. it must be just connected to either the 2g network or 3gnetwork then.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
^^^ Yes, this is EXACTLY correct. I have the ATT watch, it can see a Verizon sim but it doesnt allow you to take or make calls or texts with your phone off...like mine currently does connected to the ATT network.
lewis952 said:
How does your watch work perfectly on vzw network?? When the AT&T variant has radio bands that are not supported on Verizon network?.. it must be just connected to either the 2g network or 3gnetwork then.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, under network type, it says LTE.
---------- Post added at 02:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:08 PM ----------
jason.T said:
^^^ Yes, this is EXACTLY correct. I have the ATT watch, it can see a Verizon sim but it doesnt allow you to take or make calls or texts with your phone off...like mine currently does connected to the ATT network.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've made calls on mine with my phone off. It works as it should.
jmartin72 said:
No, under network type, it says LTE.
---------- Post added at 02:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:08 PM ----------
I've made calls on mine with my phone off. It works as it should.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its hard for me to believe honestly. I was on Verizon when I first was gifted the att watch and spent hours with Verizon trying to get it to work and when you check the imei on this site: https://www.verizonwireless.com/bring-your-own-device/, it STILL tells me my device is not compatible with the Verizon network? So unless you are a wizard, I'm not sure why it works for you and not anyone else...
jason.T said:
Its hard for me to believe honestly. I was on Verizon when I first was gifted the att watch and spent hours with Verizon trying to get it to work and when you check the imei on this site: https://www.verizonwireless.com/bring-your-own-device/, it STILL tells me my device is not compatible with the Verizon network? So unless you are a wizard, I'm not sure why it works for you and not anyone else...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, it does say the IMEI is not recognized, but if you put a SIM that has already been activated, it will work just fine. I'm not the only one doing this. There are people on Reddit that are doing this too. Go over to the Android Wear thread and check it out.
jmartin72 said:
Yes, it does say the IMEI is not recognized, but if you put a SIM that has already been activated, it will work just fine. I'm not the only one doing this. There are people on Reddit that are doing this too. Go over to the Android Wear thread and check it out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so why when I put the verizon sim from my Galaxy s2 tablet in, it doesn't work? it works on my tablet though? I'm at a loss. Im on att now so I really dont care that much...just frustrating spending hours on the phone and in chat rooms with Verizon and not 1 of them could make it happen for me, all of them said it was incompatible due to the radios being different.
What am I doing differently? I mean, there isn't much to it.
jason.T said:
so why when I put the verizon sim from my Galaxy s2 tablet in, it doesn't work? it works on my tablet though? I'm at a loss. Im on att now so I really dont care that much...just frustrating spending hours on the phone and in chat rooms with Verizon and not 1 of them could make it happen for me, all of them said it was incompatible due to the radios being different.
What am I doing differently? I mean, there isn't much to it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It did take me some time tinkering with it, and yes the people at Verizon are worthless, but after a few reboots, it finally provisioned and started working. I powered off my pixel, and made calls, sent and received texts, and got email. I don't know now what else I could ask it to do. There was a phone setup app I had to run through.
Using developer options, and ADB debugging maybe, could this guide be used to change the LTE bands on our watches?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
Did anyone try to change the bands with the above guide?
Related
So i've searched the forum and got an impression this might work.
I have owned AW for 2 years on my Sony SmartWatch 3, it has NFC but AW never activated AP on AW til AW2. I just today ordered a used Urbane2 which is due to get AW2, and based on the AP on AW explanation implies that AP will work on the Urbane when it gets AW2 - right?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...ndroid-wear-is-here-and-this-is-how-it-works/
So literally once we get AW2 on Urbane we'll get AP?
nigelhealy said:
So i've searched the forum and got an impression this might work.
I have owned AW for 2 years on my Sony SmartWatch 3, it has NFC but AW never activated AP on AW til AW2. I just today ordered a used Urbane2 which is due to get AW2, and based on the AP on AW explanation implies that AP will work on the Urbane when it gets AW2 - right?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...ndroid-wear-is-here-and-this-is-how-it-works/
So literally once we get AW2 on Urbane we'll get AP?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is my understanding/hope as well.
When the Android Team announced the upcoming 2.0 release on reddit, the AW team member stated in the comments NFC enabled devices, including the Sport and Urbane 2nd Edition, would be able to use Android Pay.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidWear/comments/5su6z0/slug/ddi4a7j
Also, here is a teardown photo showing the NFC chip in the 2nd Edition.
http://goo.gl/7Zjnp1
I just bought one yesterday, its pretty cool, but W2 is when it will become super useful. Why doesn't Urbane 2 have its own thread? Anyone know
Drops77 said:
..... Why doesn't Urbane 2 have its own thread? Anyone know
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure really. Maybe not as many users? A result of the recall in November 2015 of the original release? Who knows. I've had mine since the original release, two days before the recall, and still wear it daily. For my purposes, it's still the best option available for AW.
I didn't know there was a recall! I just picked mine up. Looking into it.
Drops77 said:
I didn't know there was a recall! I just picked mine up. Looking into it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The original release in November 2015 was recalled. It was re-released in March/April of 2016.
It sold briefly for $299 new in November 2015 before the recall then it was released again 2016 for $360 new. That's the AT&T version pricing.
Is there a way to know if you have the recall version or the new hardware version?
---------- Post added at 05:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:21 PM ----------
Bought mine used, trying to find a hardware number for pre-recall post.
Drops77 said:
Is there a way to know if you have the recall version or the new hardware version?
---------- Post added at 05:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:21 PM ----------
Bought mine used, trying to find a hardware number for pre-recall post.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you have the original box? There is a SKU number on it. 6387 is the newer release. My original release has 6106 on it.
No I bought it used. Is there another way or a serial number range?
Drops77 said:
No I bought it used. Is there another way or a serial number range?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmmm I'd have to research about the serial number. They didn't sell very many originally since it was only on sale for a few days so my guess is it's the new version. I haven't had any issues with the original version.
given its 18 months later, the LG Watch Sport looks disappointing specs upgrade, seems a downgrade in battery size (why?) and yet still a big warch and only really chipset improved, given current prices the Urbane2 is about half the price for similar specs. You then have puzzle of the Huawei Watch 2 even higher price for lower specs.
Interest moment coming when AW2 out and then see if AP works. I have rooted phone, AP works (magisk) on phone but the word is not on AW.
nigelhealy said:
given its 18 months later, the LG Watch Sport looks disappointing specs upgrade, seems a downgrade in battery size (why?) and yet still a big phone and only really chipset improved, given current prices the Urbane2 is about half the price for similar specs. You then have puzzle of the Huawei Watch 2 even higher price for lower specs.
Interest moment coming when AW2 out and then see if AP works.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If I had to replace my watch for any reason currently, I'd get the U2 again. Other than the rotating crown, the Sport doesn't offer much more for twice the price. Also, for my specific use, there isn't another watch that can provide the same functions. I like being able to forward calls to the watch and leave the phone behind during GPS recorded runs. I was also able to do this while visiting family in France because the U2 includes the 2100 band, the Sport does not. I know that's a rare need, but it was nice to have. My Truphone SIM is global so it worked with no problems.
mward1995 said:
If I had to replace my watch for any reason currently, I'd get the U2 again. Other than the rotating crown, the Sport doesn't offer much more for twice the price. Also, for my specific use, there isn't another watch that can provide the same functions. I like being able to forward calls to the watch and leave the phone behind during GPS recorded runs. I was also able to do this while visiting family in France because the U2 includes the 2100 band, the Sport does not. I know that's a rare need, but it was nice to have. My Truphone SIM is global so it worked with no problems.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good to know, hadn't thought the radio bands. Although puzzling.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/PoGNC4D/lg-w200a-watch-urbane-2nd-edition-lte/france
says shouldn't get any kind of signal?
nigelhealy said:
Good to know, hadn't thought the radio bands. Although puzzling.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/PoGNC4D/lg-w200a-watch-urbane-2nd-edition-lte/france
says shouldn't get any kind of signal?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah there are a lot of inaccuracies out there. The watch does support B1 2100 band. It definitely worked in France. Select 'specifications' at the top of this site. They don't mention B1, probably because it isn't an AT&T band, but they show support for 2100.
https://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/devices/lg-watch-urbane-2.jsp#fbid=isDV_yi8j3B
Regarding service, I'm in the united States. What sub carrier can I get a sim from and connect my watch for the cheapest? Ideally I would like Google Fi, but I need a service to add the data Sim. Wish there was a thread for confirmed carriers we can use. I heard TMobile works, but only 3g.
Drops77 said:
Regarding service, I'm in the united States. What sub carrier can I get a sim from and connect my watch for the cheapest? Ideally I would like Google Fi, but I need a service to add the data Sim. Wish there was a thread for confirmed carriers we can use. I heard TMobile works, but only 3g.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
T-Mobile does work with their phone SIM. Some have tried their wearable SIM with little success because they won't allow a non T mobile device on the wearable plan. I originally tried H2O and Ting but couldn't get data to work and there isn't a way to adjust the APN settings. I eventually found Truphone. They are a global SIM that uses AT&T network here in the US. It's 10 cents per minute/SMS/mb with free incoming calls/texts. It's perfect for my use, but if you end up using a lot of data it could add up quickly.
mward1995 said:
T-Mobile does work with their phone SIM. Some have tried their wearable SIM with little success because they won't allow a non T mobile device on the wearable plan. I originally tried H2O and Ting but couldn't get data to work and there isn't a way to adjust the APN settings. I eventually found Truphone. They are a global SIM that uses AT&T network here in the US. It's 10 cents per minute/SMS/mb with free incoming calls/texts. It's perfect for my use, but if you end up using a lot of data it could add up quickly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you get full LTE? Can I buy it at a store like Walmart or Target near check out?
mward1995 said:
T-Mobile does work with their phone SIM. Some have tried their wearable SIM with little success because they won't allow a non T mobile device on the wearable plan. I originally tried H2O and Ting but couldn't get data to work and there isn't a way to adjust the APN settings. I eventually found Truphone. They are a global SIM that uses AT&T network here in the US. It's 10 cents per minute/SMS/mb with free incoming calls/texts. It's perfect for my use, but if you end up using a lot of data it could add up quickly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good to know. I have ATT and T-mobile SIMs in my OnePlus3T, I was going to try both in the Urbane2 and find out the actual coverage, and then decide what to do next. I was with Straighttalk before ATT, and around here ATT tends to be better coverage than T-mobile. So if Truphone is a ATT based, usage-based for the odd time not with your mobile that might be (agreed) perfect complement. The 9c/MB is the worrying part because its free for incoming and in the context of AW its going to be incoming mostly. Notifications over LTE would add up to a few MB? What is your AW Truphone MB/month type usage off you Truphone bill?
Drops77 said:
Do you get full LTE? Can I buy it at a store like Walmart or Target near check out?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It does receive LTE and actually it's 9 cents per minute/sms/mb with free incoming calls/texts. They are not sold in the store as far as I know. I ordered the SIM online. It was $30 and included $15 of credit. I only activate LTE when I'm running a few times a week. I average about 1MB of data per run so it's costing me $1-$2 dollars a month. FYI, when AW 2.0 arrives it could allow for more data usage if you stream music or download apps away from the phone. I play music from the watch through bluetooth headphones so I don't plan on streaming or downloading apps on LTE.
https://www.truphone.com/us/consumer/sim/
mward1995 said:
It does receive LTE and actually it's 9 cents per minute/sms/mb with free incoming calls/texts. They are not sold in the store as far as I know. I ordered the SIM online. It was $30 and included $15 of credit. I only activate LTE when I'm running a few times a week. I average about 1MB of data per run so it's costing me $1-$2 dollars a month. FYI, when AW 2.0 arrives it could allow for more data usage if you stream music or download apps away from the phone. I play music from the watch through bluetooth headphones so I don't plan on streaming or downloading apps on LTE.
https://www.truphone.com/us/consumer/sim/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looking around U.S mobile seems like an even cheaper alternative. If only using data, but doubt I'll get LTE
I was looking to get the new HTC u11 which for Verizon can only be done unlocked but there are a ton of people having a ton of issues on Verizon with the unlocked model: IMEI not accepted on Verizon, missing bands, no cdma (so no 3g or 1x), missing visual voicemail, no immediate HD calling, no Wi-Fi calling, notification issues and Verizon essentially saying the phone was never qualified on their Network so support is limited and so will future updates to the phone like getting Wi-Fi calling working. So that option is dead to me as getting an unlocked phone without carrier bloat is great but not great if it's having this many issues.
So... I'm curious if the same thing happens with the unlocked version of the S8 on Verizon? Or is it 100% functioning just minus the carrier bloat?
Answer = no
No CDMA radio so no 3G or 1x in remote or spotty places. A tech told me.
Lock-N-Load said:
Answer = no
No CDMA radio so no 3G or 1x in remote or spotty places. A tech told me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
According to Samsung.com it will work on Verizon. However, I haven't found if it fully works.
Works fine on VZW all s8's are using the same hardware, only difference is the customized carrier software.
txaggies07 said:
According to Samsung.com it will work on Verizon. However, I haven't found if it fully works.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just like HTC - it will work to a limited degree. No 3g no 1x as no cdma radio. I need that ability so I passed.
Lock-N-Load said:
Just like HTC - it will work to a limited degree. No 3g no 1x as no cdma radio. I need that ability so I passed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The S8 has a CDMA radio. It is the same hardware that Verizon and Sprint use for the carrier model.
I'M on the unlocked model, notice my phone was using 3g so yes it can. For some reason my father in law was not able to add a line to our plan because my phone was marked on the account as incompatible. Was told to go get a new sim card and everything was working before and after so I'm not sure? The tech wasn't sure why I had to get a new SIM. I had popped it out of my iPhone 7 and it worked immediately on my s8. I have not found the wifi calling feature though.
Does UDP native tethering work our of the box on the unlocked model on Verizon? How about HD voice? Both of these work on my Moto X Pure, even though is is not Verizon certified.
Biff Rosco said:
Does UDP native tethering work our of the box on the unlocked model on Verizon? How about HD voice? Both of these work on my Moto X Pure, even though is is not Verizon certified.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes works great. I found a Cspire s8 plus that was Google locked. I unlocked it then sim unlocked it and flashed the U firmware. Only thing is no option for video calling and I haven't tried wifi calling but everything else works. I'm now using it on Verizon. Had the phone a month now.
---------- Post added at 11:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:07 PM ----------
Biff Rosco said:
Does UDP native tethering work our of the box on the unlocked model on Verizon? How about HD voice? Both of these work on my Moto X Pure, even though is is not Verizon certified.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
txaggies07 said:
The S8 has a CDMA radio. It is the same hardware that Verizon and Sprint use for the carrier model.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you for bringing him into 2017 lol
txaggies07 said:
The S8 has a CDMA radio. It is the same hardware that Verizon and Sprint use for the carrier model.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Works fine with 3g...my office sux and my unlocked works in 3g on verizon just fine.
Best part about unlocked - no tether subscription check, so I can keep tethering my old unlimited data plan without paying the tether fee
From what I can tell, only visual voicemail is not working on verizon, but google voice forwarding is just as good. Plus it was like this on the 6p until it upgraded to 7.1 at which time it worked natively, so the S8 might eventually get the same treatment.
---------- Post added at 09:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:04 PM ----------
Biff Rosco said:
Does UDP native tethering work our of the box on the unlocked model on Verizon? How about HD voice? Both of these work on my Moto X Pure, even though is is not Verizon certified.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes and Yes...just like my 6p
gs05 said:
Works fine with 3g...my office sux and my unlocked works in 3g on verizon just fine.
Best part about unlocked - no tether subscription check, so I can keep tethering my old unlimited data plan without paying the tether fee
From what I can tell, only visual voicemail is not working on verizon, but google voice forwarding is just as good. Plus it was like this on the 6p until it upgraded to 7.1 at which time it worked natively, so the S8 might eventually get the same treatment.
---------- Post added at 09:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:04 PM ----------
Yes and Yes...just like my 6p
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How do you properly set up Google Voice so that you can use it as Visual Voicemail. I tried setting it up via the old Legacy Google Voice link through PC browser. Thought I had everything working, but not sure. I may have enabled an extra step, as everytime I dial out, it hangs up and auto redials really quickly. Like it routes all outgoing calls through GV too. Sometimes it redials the same number, sometimes it's a completely random number.
lickwid said:
How do you properly set up Google Voice so that you can use it as Visual Voicemail. I tried setting it up via the old Legacy Google Voice link through PC browser. Thought I had everything working, but not sure. I may have enabled an extra step, as everytime I dial out, it hangs up and auto redials really quickly. Like it routes all outgoing calls through GV too. Sometimes it redials the same number, sometimes it's a completely random number.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They had me put in some crazy string into the phone. But make sure google chat is unchecked on the legacy site. Then click the little link for voicemail forwarding. Go through the prompts and it works fine. I had to put do not disturb so it doesnt ring through to my voice number, but it seems to working just fine. Make sure the setting on the non legacy site are all unchecked too
So far the only thing that doesn't appear to work is WiFi calling. VoLTE works but there is no indication of HD Voice on the handset.
vincey2kr1 said:
I'M on the unlocked model, notice my phone was using 3g so yes it can. For some reason my father in law was not able to add a line to our plan because my phone was marked on the account as incompatible. Was told to go get a new sim card and everything was working before and after so I'm not sure? The tech wasn't sure why I had to get a new SIM. I had popped it out of my iPhone 7 and it worked immediately on my s8. I have not found the wifi calling feature though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, this is because the IMEI is not "in the system" so you cannot use the phone to activate a new SIM unless you have the IMEI added to the VZW database. The solution to this is to active the SIM in a VZW handset and then put that SIM into the S8.
vincey2kr1 said:
I'M on the unlocked model, notice my phone was using 3g so yes it can. For some reason my father in law was not able to add a line to our plan because my phone was marked on the account as incompatible. Was told to go get a new sim card and everything was working before and after so I'm not sure? The tech wasn't sure why I had to get a new SIM. I had popped it out of my iPhone 7 and it worked immediately on my s8. I have not found the wifi calling feature though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you see verizon wifi callin gone sm-g950u1
verizon wifi calling is only available in the VZW specific firmware for the device. i purchased an unlocked S8 and because i needed wifi calling, i had to flash the VZW specific firmware.
knightsfury said:
verizon wifi calling is only available in the VZW specific firmware for the device. i purchased an unlocked S8 and because i needed wifi calling, i had to flash the VZW specific firmware.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi knightsfury - Were you able to pull off getting the VZW firmware on your unlocked s8? I need the wifi calling/video calling, as well. have been trying to find a thread which explains this. Would you be able point in the right direction? Thanks!
What is the model number for the unlocked variant that works on Verizon? Can anyone link me to where to buy one?
r34med said:
Hi knightsfury - Were you able to pull off getting the VZW firmware on your unlocked s8? I need the wifi calling/video calling, as well. have been trying to find a thread which explains this. Would you be able point in the right direction? Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes i had no problems. in fact, i did this with 2 different new unlocked S8's (mine and my wife's). i followed the threads for flashing firmware in the guides section: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to
knightsfury said:
yes i had no problems. in fact, i did this with 2 different new unlocked S8's (mine and my wife's). i followed the threads for flashing firmware in the guides section: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Great! Thanks for letting me know. I got it to work as well - I have HD & Wireless calling working, but still waiting on video calling because it is blocked as a service on our account from when we activated the phones unlocked. However, a CS rep told me they would work with higher tier tech support to see if the block can be removed. We will see...
Thanks again!
Lock-N-Load said:
Answer = no
No CDMA radio so no 3G or 1x in remote or spotty places. A tech told me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Confirmed... when I am out of LTE coverage areas there is no 2x or 3x , only 1x voice. In practice this means no MMS (2x), or any other data. No group texts, fun. You can still make and receive phone calls and SMS. This kinda sucks.
Purchased at : B&H Photo Video
Settings -> About Phone :
Model: SM-G950U1
Baseband : G950U1EU1AQG2
Build: NRD90M.G950U1UEU1AQG2
If you look at available firmware for the SM-G950U1 : http://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?q=SM-G950U1&exact=1&r=&v=&rpp=50 there are Verizon-specific ones. I'm going to go give one of those a try.
(https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/official-stock-firmware-update-odin-t3598172) (https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/snap-guide-flashing-standard-fw-carrier-t3625817) and report back. Unfortunately this means wiping the phone and dealing with Verizon bloatware... but that seems to be the cost for getting 3G back.
-m
I know generally that most unlocked Chineese phones are not Verizon compatible. But, both the OnePlus 6t and 7 pro are even though they are LTE only so I figured there may be a possibility and was curious if anyone actually attempted it.
This seems like the best phone on the market right now, it's almost $200 cheaper than the next snapdragon 855 phone in the US.
nascar48 said:
I know generally that most unlocked Chineese phones are not Verizon compatible. But, both the OnePlus 6t and 7 pro are even though they are LTE only so I figured there may be a possibility and was curious if anyone actually attempted it.
This seems like the best phone on the market right now, it's almost $200 cheaper than the next snapdragon 855 phone in the US.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Works great on AT&T Prepaid Unlimited, typically for CDMA carriers you need to buy they're approved phones.
I'm actually on Verizon unlimited and had the same questions for them.
I installed my sim card from my previous phone LG v20. And it seems it's using the provisioning from it. All the network info was there. But couldn't seem to get data. So I used shortcut master lite and went to the telephoney part of network settings and had to play with the network settings. Got it to work really well by downloading a network settings app and playing with the band info. It's pretty straight forward and easy to use.
By the way Verizon has no idea what kind of phone I have and it says it's rooted. But it's not. Cloud works great, my Verizon, message+ and anything I throw at it from the Verizon apps. Tech support said that as long as im using my existing sim and have done whatever I did to make it work. Keep doing it. But they have no idea if they are going to setup services and get the info anytime soon.
So I got just what I always wanted.
A nice phone that they can't track or get into it unless I allow them. Perfect
This phone works fine on Verizon, I currently have both the phone and Verizon service. VOLTE works and everything, just no wifi calling
Wow! You all are using the North American Nubia Red Magic 3?
I'm usually on T-Mobile most of the year but during the summer I need Verizon where I go so I didn't consider the RM3. I usually use total wireless or StraightTalk and I've had good luck with slapping their SIM cards into different phones without an issue.
So if you all can tell me the tricks, if any, and which model (US or international) I'll pick one up — sub $500 for S855 and big AMOLED screen!
---------- Post added at 05:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:21 PM ----------
And what about band 13 on Verizon? Isn't that the main band for them?
Charles7 said:
Wow! You all are using the North American Nubia Red Magic 3?
I'm usually on T-Mobile most of the year but during the summer I need Verizon where I go so I didn't consider the RM3. I usually use total wireless or StraightTalk and I've had good luck with slapping their SIM cards into different phones without an issue.
So if you all can tell me the tricks, if any, and which model (US or international) I'll pick one up — sub $500 for S855 and big AMOLED screen!
---------- Post added at 05:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:21 PM ----------
And what about band 13 on Verizon? Isn't that the main band for them?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No band 13, but Verizon also uses bands 4 and 5 which this phone supports. I actually believe band 4 is their main band. I didn't have to do anything but put my SIM card in. Although in the past when I had a OnePlus 6T, I had Verizon provision my line to be LTE only. Don't know if that step is needed for this phone, as it supports CDMA. I'm using the North American version bought directly from Red Magic.
trace1er said:
No band 13, but Verizon also uses bands 4 and 5 which this phone supports. I actually believe band 4 is their main band. I didn't have to do anything but put my SIM card in. Although in the past when I had a OnePlus 6T, I had Verizon provision my line to be LTE only. Don't know if that step is needed for this phone, as it supports CDMA. I'm using the North American version bought directly from Red Magic.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the info. Band 13 (700MHz) is Verizon's main band due to its penetration and distance, according to online info, but you are also correct — 2, 4, along with 5 and 66 all work on Verizon. If they put 71 and 13 in this thing it would have everything. So I should be able to get something in most areas.
Good to know I just need to put the SIM in. I can always activate on my old Moto X Pure.
Thanks again!
gdaddy3315 said:
I'm actually on Verizon unlimited and had the same questions for them.
I installed my sim card from my previous phone LG v20. And it seems it's using the provisioning from it. All the network info was there. But couldn't seem to get data. So I used shortcut master lite and went to the telephoney part of network settings and had to play with the network settings. Got it to work really well by downloading a network settings app and playing with the band info. It's pretty straight forward and easy to use.
By the way Verizon has no idea what kind of phone I have and it says it's rooted. But it's not. Cloud works great, my Verizon, message+ and anything I throw at it from the Verizon apps. Tech support said that as long as im using my existing sim and have done whatever I did to make it work. Keep doing it. But they have no idea if they are going to setup services and get the info anytime soon.
So I got just what I always wanted.
A nice phone that they can't track or get into it unless I allow them. Perfect
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please oh knowledgeable one, bestow upon me the settings you used to get the phone to work on Verizon. I popped my SIM in to the phone when i first got it and ZERO issues for weeks. Then recently all the sudden I no longer had any service whatsoever. No matter how much I tried to play with the settings, nothing seems to work. What appp did you use for the network settings to play with the band info? Really don't want to change carriers right now.
Please and thanks in advance :silly:
Pierland said:
Please oh knowledgeable one, bestow upon me the settings you used to get the phone to work on Verizon. I popped my SIM in to the phone when i first got it and ZERO issues for weeks. Then recently all the sudden I no longer had any service whatsoever. No matter how much I tried to play with the settings, nothing seems to work. What appp did you use for the network settings to play with the band info? Really don't want to change carriers right now.
Please and thanks in advance :silly:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well it was easy, phone off , installed the sim card and poof service for about 2 hours and then I had to keep toggling the airplane mode. Until I remembered when my LG V20 stopped getting signal because I had it rooted. Verizon kept trying to kick it off because they don't want rooted phones on there. And also there software constantly tries to update the phone to remove root on you.
Anyways, I m sure you know this part of Verizon. There are many variations of it. But network settings App. All pretty much show the same menu. But LTE only is what you select. And you will constantly have to go back into it and enable the data. The menu looks like this hopefully I can post it but choose LTE only.
gdaddy3315 said:
Well it was easy, phone off , installed the sim card and poof service for about 2 hours and then I had to keep toggling the airplane mode. Until I remembered when my LG V20 stopped getting signal because I had it rooted. Verizon kept trying to kick it off because they don't want rooted phones on there. And also there software constantly tries to update the phone to remove root on you.
Anyways, I m sure you know this part of Verizon. There are many variations of it. But network settings App. All pretty much show the same menu. But LTE only is what you select. And you will constantly have to go back into it and enable the data. The menu looks like this hopefully I can post it but choose LTE only.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So it basically doesn't work because you have to jump through hoops to make it kinda work?
I remember when I sold my Pixel XL, the guy was able to use it right away on Verizon with his sim card.
Did Verizon add more measures to keep people away with unauthorized phones?
nabbed said:
So it basically doesn't work because you have to jump through hoops to make it kinda work?
I remember when I sold my Pixel XL, the guy was able to use it right away on Verizon with his sim card.
Did Verizon add more measures to keep people away with unauthorized phones?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well all I really know is that they say that they just don't have any info about the phone. It has all the bands that work. Except band 13. I haven't rooted it because there still isn't a functional root for it. That setting in the pic I downloaded, theres a switch that says immediate. That's changes to disabled because of the doze function. It's solely for data. I keep mine on lte only. And just have to change it from disabled to immediate. It's kinda a pain in the rear. But. Its a functioning phone on Verizon service that they say doesn't support it. No Verizon apps except cloud and My Verizon. With limited access. It's great as far as I'm concerned. Biggest problem with Verizon. Is Verizon.
But as soon as a functioning root is available and im comfortable I'll root it and enable band 13. I'm pretty sure it's there. Just Verizon won't pay to get the access to the phones. So there's that.
One more thing the OnePlus 7 pro works on Verizon with some GSM function. There support just won't try to do it on the RM3. Other option is you have a second Sim slot. Get you another sim card and that takes care of emergency stuff.
Guess I'll be buying the best gaming phone ever made, the Red Magic 5G next! Sorry Verizon, it's time to move on. Or you can support this baby and make a lot of money.
I am totally in if this thing will run on Verizon anyone have any idea if there will be a buy one get one offer like with the Note 10?
The ROG phone 1 seems to have the bands for Verizon 4G and 3G (even though 3G will be dying at the end of the year).
https://www.findpare.com/smartphone/asus-rog-phone-8gb-512gb/mobile-carriers
They haven't annouced which bands the ROG II will support yet, unless I missed it.
Verizon uses bands 1, 2, 4, 13 and 66. It supports Bands 1, 2, 4, 13, but doesn't support 66, which is pretty much just a re-label of 4 with AWS-3, and its in very few areas. 13 is the important band, because its Verizon's mainline 4G LTE band, so apparently the ROG Phone II supports it, which is good.
Sweetness, so does that mean it will work natively with all the regular functions like text voice and data?
Moving from note 10 in a hurry...
bjmjpl said:
Sweetness, so does that mean it will work natively with all the regular functions like text voice and data?
Moving from note 10 in a hurry...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hopefully. People had trouble with the ROG Phone 1 when it came to Verizon compatibility, so tread lightly. I’d wait until a few people get their hands on this in the US before pulling the trigger on it.
Any updates... Note 10 plus otherwise I guess sigh...
so even though it says "WILL NOT WORK ON VERIZON", its possible it could work??? i cant believe there isnt more info on this.. i called asus yesterday and the guy put me on hold for about 30min and came back and said "yes sir it WILL work on verizon, but being that it says gsm only i called again to ask someone else and the next guy said it will not work. when this phone was announced i was told this one would work on verizon... wtaf
MicaRyanSulc said:
so even though it says "WILL NOT WORK ON VERIZON", its possible it could work??? i cant believe there isnt more info on this.. i called asus yesterday and the guy put me on hold for about 30min and came back and said "yes sir it WILL work on verizon, but being that it says gsm only i called again to ask someone else and the next guy said it will not work. when this phone was announced i was told this one would work on verizon... wtaf
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They don't know! You are wasting your time even calling Asus and Verizon. The thing you need to understand is when you call into these call centers you are one step away from talking to a robot. Everything they tell you is from an internal website or a automated wizard they have up on the screen, and if the employee doesn't know the answer they are going to give you a best case scenario answer so you don't ***** at them and leave a bad survey. Trust me, that's how it works. Save your time and patience!
The general consensus seems to be that it has the right bands but Verizon has not approved it for their network and thus it won't work. Also no CDMA radio to fall back on should you be out of LTE range.
bjmjpl said:
I am totally in if this thing will run on Verizon anyone have any idea if there will be a buy one get one offer like with the Note 10?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Put my Verizon sim in yesterday to test, got 4G+ data, called Verzion gave them the IMEI and they submitted a form for me s/b done today or tomorrow to get it up and running on their network. The support rep says it registers on their network so no problem at all. On Tmobile now only getting 4G. On my Verizon S10+ I only get 2 bars in my house go figure.
Pointmanipo said:
Put my Verizon sim in yesterday to test, got 4G+ data, called Verzion gave them the IMEI and they submitted a form for me s/b done today or tomorrow to get it up and running on their network. The support rep says it registers on their network so no problem at all. On Tmobile now only getting 4G. On my Verizon S10+ I only get 2 bars in my house go figure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Keep us posted on this. I have the phone and Verizon but bout to switch to at&t in a few weeks, so if I can use it on verizon in the meantime that'd be dope.
Pointmanipo said:
Put my Verizon sim in yesterday to test, got 4G+ data, called Verzion gave them the IMEI and they submitted a form for me s/b done today or tomorrow to get it up and running on their network. The support rep says it registers on their network so no problem at all. On Tmobile now only getting 4G. On my Verizon S10+ I only get 2 bars in my house go figure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Awesome. Which model did you get? And does anyone know where to get the accessories from? Tia
bjmjpl said:
I am totally in if this thing will run on Verizon anyone have any idea if there will be a buy one get one offer like with the Note 10?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I WANT ALL OF YOU THAT HAVE THE PHONE AND HAVE VERIZON TO PUT THE SIM IN SLOT 2 OF THE TRAY AND POWER IT UP. You should see signal. Call Verizon tech support and give them your IMEI and have them check if it registered on the network. If they say yes have them put in a form to add it to the network.
Pointmanipo said:
I WANT ALL OF YOU THAT HAVE THE PHONE AND HAVE VERIZON TO PUT THE SIM IN SLOT 2 OF THE TRAY AND POWER IT UP. You should see signal. Call Verizon tech support and give them your IMEI and have them check if it registered on the network. If they say yes have them put in a form to add it to the network.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What's the difference between SIM 1 and SIM 2
Sent from my ASUS_I001DC using Tapatalk
So how do you guys plan on making phone calls? No CDMA, no volte.
TawkinTrash said:
What's the difference between SIM 1 and SIM 2
Sent from my ASUS_I001DC using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not exactly sure, but when I put my Verizon sim in Slot 2 I get a signal.
---------- Post added at 08:22 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:22 AM ----------
suzook said:
So how do you guys plan on making phone calls? No CDMA, no volte.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you read my previous posts?
Pointmanipo said:
I'm not exactly sure, but when I put my Verizon sim in Slot 2 I get a signal.
---------- Post added at 08:22 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:22 AM ----------
Have you read my previous posts?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I have. You will only have data....no calls. Even if vz adds phone to data base, volte is disabled in the US.
suzook said:
Yes, I have. You will only have data....no calls. Even if vz adds phone to data base, volte is disabled in the US.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not correct, I already have data w/o them adding me to the Network. Once its added and completed it will work fine even without VOLTE.
---------- Post added at 09:00 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:57 AM ----------
Psych0t1c20 said:
Keep us posted on this. I have the phone and Verizon but bout to switch to at&t in a few weeks, so if I can use it on verizon in the meantime that'd be dope.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does AT&T have Advanced calling features on none branded phones? Had a Galaxy Note 9 unlocked from Samsung and didn't work.
Pointmanipo said:
Not correct, I already have data w/o them adding me to the Network. Once its added and completed it will work fine even without VOLTE.
---------- Post added at 09:00 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:57 AM ----------
Does AT&T have Advanced calling features on none branded phones? Had a Galaxy Note 9 unlocked from Samsung and didn't work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol, no it won't. Without volte the phone drops to 3g...so on tmo and att, calls work, because it's gsm bands. With vz, calls would try to drop to 3g, which is CDMA on vz, so no calls. Trust me, it's not gonna work, unless we figure out volte working.
suzook said:
Lol, no it won't. Without volte the phone drops to 3g...so on tmo and att, calls work, because it's gsm bands. With vz, calls would try to drop to 3g, which is CDMA on vz, so no calls. Trust me, it's not gonna work, unless we figure out volte working.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you say so, because using a Tmobile sim right now and have that issue. Spoke to my friend an engineer at Verizon and gave him all the specs. He said as long as it registers on their network and has most of the bands it should work. You're right about the No Volte which really stinks.
I'm going to keep the phone, do you know if volte and advanced calling features work with AT&T???
Accidentally bought an ATT carrier locked note 9 on ebay.
It was a good deal and would like to get it working on tmobile
Can someone tell me what my current options are
I have some experience with Odin.
Read on Reddit that requesting unlock code from ATT doesn't work as they give you an 8digit code and I need a 16 digit code
Obviously I would love a free solution but willing to pay to unlock the phone.
any recommendation to getting an unlock code? ALSO is there anything I should check before i buy an unlock code?
Sorry Im an old man still new to this stuff. Yah I know I messed up by buying a locked phone but I am hoping one of you will have some useful information. TY
FWIW I am build number ppr1 180610011 N960USQU2CSGA.
First I would do is to check if phone is not blacklisted.
swappa.com has a free check
darekz said:
First I would do is to check if phone is not blacklisted.
swappa.com has a free check
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
TY used Swapa Not black listed.
If is clean why not to request unlock code from att first. I think now they use app to unlock phone. Give a try.
---------- Post added at 09:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:10 PM ----------
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KM1008728
More important are two issues that appear when using a non T-mobile Phone. T-mobile's Wifi calling ability cannot be installed later as far as I have been able to learn. It must be in the ROM installed on the phone. T-mobile calling Wifi calling uses your T-mobile number and acts as if the phone is recieving calls on a direct T-mobile signal.
The other is that T-mobile is rushing to add Band 71 (low frequency long range better penetrating) signals. There are some hiccups that require moving UHF TV stations in some areas, but the pace over the last two years has been impressive. See this updated map - https://coverage.lart2150.com/ Band 71 is important for T-mobile and can't be added if the hardware is not on the phone when bought.
All that said I did convert two Samsung Verizon S7's to boot as T-mobile phones two years ago. That didn't require new frequencies, etc. But can you do that on a Note 9?? I don't know and I think Band 71 Needs specific hardware. Better to sell what you have and get a T-mobile one.
darekz said:
If is clean why not to request unlock code from att first. I think now they use app to unlock phone. Give a try.
---------- Post added at 09:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:10 PM ----------
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KM1008728
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, No go, the contract was not paid off.
I lots of people on ATT forum says they will not blacklist for unpaid contract phones. should I still pay to get it unlocked?
hankvb said:
More important are two issues that appear when using a non T-mobile Phone. T-mobile's Wifi calling ability cannot be installed later as far as I have been able to learn. It must be in the ROM installed on the phone. T-mobile calling Wifi calling uses your T-mobile number and acts as if the phone is recieving calls on a direct T-mobile signal.
The other is that T-mobile is rushing to add Band 71 (low frequency long range better penetrating) signals. There are some hiccups that require moving UHF TV stations in some areas, but the pace over the last two years has been impressive. See this updated map - https://coverage.lart2150.com/ Band 71 is important for T-mobile and can't be added if the hardware is not on the phone when bought.
All that said I did convert two Samsung Verizon S7's to boot as T-mobile phones two years ago. That didn't require new frequencies, etc. But can you do that on a Note 9?? I don't know and I think Band 71 Needs specific hardware. Better to sell what you have and get a T-mobile one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Based on other posts it says bootloader Ver 2. SW= N960USQU2CSGA
Anyone know Is it possible to flash it with Odin to get Tmobile Functionality. I did it with a phone that was on bootloader 1.
Update: I decided to use unlockbase to unlock my phone. They had a good balance between cost and delivery time and many people on here have recommended them.
I am also downloading N960U1UES2CSI3 from sammobile to flash with the patched odin.
I will give an update if any of the above don't work or if I ever get blacklisted. If you don't see an update than assume all is good.
TY for the advice. Feel free to reply if there is a better option so others may benifit.
We never had problems with the two Verizon Galaxy S7's converted to a T-mobile ROM. If you get the functionality you need I would anticipate no problems!
Stock unbranded rom for sm-n960u1 works very smoothly with Tmobile (volte/wifi-calling) without all the extra bloat.