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Orange UK won't update SIM to 3G

I have an orange uk Dolphin 35 contract that I took out and got the original HTC Touch (2G)
I have now got a diamond that obvioulsly is 3G capable but Orange refuse to update my SIM card.
Has anybody else experienced something similar and did you get it fixed

You're not the only person I've heard say this. I remember reading a very similar thread on here a while ago. Good luck hope you manage to get it sorted.

What about instead of asking for a new Sim, you call tech support and make out you are unable to make a video call to a friend/family.
As you would require 3G to make video calls, they may suggest they update your sim.

sbonera said:
What about instead of asking for a new Sim, you call tech support and make out you are unable to make a video call to a friend/family.
As you would require 3G to make video calls, they may suggest they update your sim.
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Tried something similar - they just said you have a 2G contract so you can't!!!

did you really think the rom update would also update your SIM?????
i guess you didnt upgrade to the diamond through orange then... bought the diamond sim free?? would it not have been cheaper to u/g?

I don't think i mentioned upgradeing the rom - and no i don't think that a ROM upgrade would change my SIM.
no a ROM upgrade would not be cheaper - it cost me £40! And I cannot u/g until July.
So thank you for you helpful post!!!!

guess you have had it till july then.
if you took out a 2g contract thats what you get.
why should they upgrade you to 3g.that would cost them more.

It won't cost Orange anything to upgrade his SIM - data is data. They are just being awkward. I had the very same thing with O2 a couple of years ago so I called them and told them my sim was no longer working and they sent me a new one provisioned correctly for 3g. I'd be very surprised that if Orange sent you a new card that it wasn't provisioned for 3G.

orange are really awkward like that. just tell em your phone wont start, keeps asking you for a sim card even though there is already one in the phone. Blag it.
they did the same thing to me when i got a SE k608i years ago too.

of course it would cost more.
if hes got 3g he will download more.

Hi I work for orange and im afraid if you have a 2g phone registered to your account then orange will only supply you with a 2g sim card it doesn’t matter if you have purchased a 3g phone.

well said
people always seem to want something for nothing.

964rs777 said:
of course it would cost more.
if hes got 3g he will download more.
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You are talking rubbish!
If i download more i pay more - i dont have an unlimited contract! Orange don't do them (nit at a sensible price anyway)

964rs777 said:
well said
people always seam to want something for nothing.
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Ok!
I dont think I want anything for nothing! I have been with Orange for about 8 years! and always paid them quite a lot for the pleasure.
Orange Dolphin 35 is the same contract whether you have a 2G or 3G phone. No difference - same price. just because I didnt upgrade with them they won't do it and the only reason I didn't upgrade with them is because I committed to a 2 year contract and it is too early (how loyal am I - well not anymore!)

orange dont do them!!!
well in that case how come i have unlimited data contract with orange?
thought everyone with diamond had one.
guess its just tuff **** then lol.
just to make you even more sick i get 600 minutes,unlimited text,
unlimited data.got the phone free and got a sony psp free.
all for £35 a month.
sometimes you have just got to love orange.

964rs777 said:
orange dont do them!!!
well in that case how come i have unlimited data contract with orange?
thought everyone with diamond had one.
guess its just tuff **** then lol.
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What contract/bundle do you have (cost?)

Orange were offering unlimited data a couple of months ago on new contracts - I have unlimited data on my Dolphin 35, but they stopped it soon after.
If you're close to the end of your contract then just speak to retentions.

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updated previous answer.
thought about it after lol.

Orange where offering the unlimited data on most talk plans in july. i must say they call it unlimited but it is subject to a 3gb limit a month.

I just got in with Orange's free unlimited download offer, as long as you had 18 month contract for £35 or more per month. I got Racoon 35. It is ridiculous and incredibly shortsighted of Orange to offer better terms to new customers than existing ones - reminds me of the Nationwide ads running at the moment on UK TV.
How long does your existing contract have left to run? Orange, like all of the other mobile providers in the UK, have a special team to encourage you to stay with them. That team are able to offer much better deals than any one else in the organisation in order to keep you.
I would phone Orange and then hit the Option for "thinking of leaving us", and speak to that team. Tell them you are so annoyed by this policy that the moment you can you are going to leave them. Sound like you really mean it but do not be rude or lose your temper - after all you want them on your side!
Remember that if you do leave in the UK you can ALWAYS move your existing phone number (I have moved mine 3 times now) to a new provider and you will get some very good SIM only deals from them all

Trade T-mobile Nexus One for ATnT

Hi,
I am looking to trade my T-mobile Nexus One for one which works on ATnT frequencies. I will be arriving in the US in 15 days, and will be residing in Troy, New York (zip 12180).
The bootloader has been unlocked, but otherwise there is no modification/damage whatsoever. The phone is around 20 days old. I've been using a screen protector on it from day 0, so no scratches at all.
Would anyone be interested in a switch?
Note: I am looking for a switch only, please; not interested in selling. I'd prefer that the switch happens in-person. I'll post photos of the phone if anyone is interested, but really, it's brand new, no damage at all
Cheers.
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Cross post of this on market: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7247948
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Alternatively, if someone from India has that ATnT Nexus One and is willing to exchange in the next few days, that works out perfectly for me too. Note that in India, 3G will work on either ATT or T-Mobile Nexus One.

Just FYI, if you come to the states and don't have any credit history or SSN for the US, AT&T is going to charge you a HUGE "deposit" in order to open an account.
Whereas, T-Mobile will offer you a Contract Free plan without deposits, but no discounts on phones. This won't be an issue as you already have an N1.
You can get an Unlimited Everything plan (Minutes, Text and Data) for $79.99/mo.

Talderon said:
Just FYI, if you come to the states and don't have any credit history or SSN for the US, AT&T is going to charge you a HUGE "deposit" in order to open an account.
Whereas, T-Mobile will offer you a Contract Free plan without deposits, but no discounts on phones. This won't be an issue as you already have an N1.
You can get an Unlimited Everything plan (Minutes, Text and Data) for $79.99/mo.
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I would very much want to go for T-mobile. But the problem is, most students in my area will be using ATT. Then if I have tmo, no one will call me, or vice-versa
Also, ATT has some sort of agreement with my university (RPI) where they don't charge a steep deposit for students without SSN.
I did a lot of research, and found that tmo is perfect for me, but due to, let's say, "peer pressure", I'll have to go for ATT

just so you know, ATT does not have no contract plans like Tmo does, you will be stuck in a contract if you go the ATT route, unless ATT has changed their tactics recently.

I would definitely want to avoid ATnT, fervently. But, unlike here in India, in USA even incoming calls are charged, so if most people around me are on ATT, I will have to use that, right?

also, isnt there a student (college) discount for tmobile? Im pretty sure there is.

Blueman101 said:
also, isnt there a student (college) discount for tmobile? Im pretty sure there is.
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That's not the real issue.. The problem is the majority. Is there any way to get around it?
Also, my cousin who is already staying there will add me to a family plan of ATT, which will bring down my cost a bit.
Actually, I don't really need 3G at all.. But problem is, ATT will force it on to me

What is the reasoning behind wanting to change to ATT in the first place?

Blueman101 said:
What is the reasoning behind wanting to change to ATT in the first place?
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I'm currently in India, I will be coming to the US in 15 days. Because most of my seniors and students around my area are on ATnT, won't I have to use ATT? Otherwise no one would be able to call me without both of us incurring charge, except for nights and weekends.

Well if you are on tmo and call someone on att then you will be wasting minutes, but thats normal. My advise if you are still unsure what to do is use tmobile for a month(off contract) then if you needs are not set, either by using all your minutes or what have you, then trade your nexus one in for an att version. Why make a long term 2 year contract without testing the non contract option first.

Thank you Blueman101, nice idea By "off-contract", are you suggesting I go for prepaid? Or "Even More Plus" with Flexpay?
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Well if you are on tmo and call someone on att then you will be wasting minutes, but thats normal. My advise if you are still unsure what to do is use tmobile for a month(off contract) then if you needs are not set, either by using all your minutes or what have you, then trade your nexus one in for an att version. Why make a long term 2 year contract without testing the non contract option first.
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I don't think I'll be able to trade via the official HTC return channel.. I'll have to find a person who is willing to swap with me, right?

rohandhruva said:
Hi,
I am looking to trade my T-mobile Nexus One for one which works on ATnT frequencies. I will be arriving in the US in 15 days, and will be residing in Troy, New York (zip 12180).
The bootloader has been unlocked, but otherwise there is no modification/damage whatsoever. The phone is around 20 days old. I've been using a screen protector on it from day 0, so no scratches at all.
Would anyone be interested in a switch?
Note: I am looking for a switch only, please; not interested in selling. I'd prefer that the switch happens in-person. I'll post photos of the phone if anyone is interested, but really, it's brand new, no damage at all
Cheers.
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Cross post of this on market: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7247948
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Alternatively, if someone from India has that ATnT Nexus One and is willing to exchange in the next few days, that works out perfectly for me too. Note that in India, 3G will work on either ATT or T-Mobile Nexus One.
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i may be interested, or rather a friend of mine has at ATT N1 and needs a TMO N1. Send me a PM if interested!

rohandhruva said:
Thank you Blueman101, nice idea By "off-contract", are you suggesting I go for prepaid? Or "Even More Plus" with Flexpay?
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I was suggest the Even More Plus, whether you use flexpay or not is your choice.
rohandhruva said:
I don't think I'll be able to trade via the official HTC return channel.. I'll have to find a person who is willing to swap with me, right?
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Yeah, trading with another person is probably what you will end up doing.
Glad I could help and welcome (in 15 days) to The States.

mcgoo99 said:
i may be interested, or rather a friend of mine has at ATT N1 and needs a TMO N1. Send me a PM if interested!
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Thanks! Sent you a PM.
Blueman101 said:
I was suggest the Even More Plus, whether you use flexpay or not is your choice.
Yeah, trading with another person is probably what you will end up doing.
Glad I could help and welcome (in 15 days) to The States.
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Thank you very much, for both the welcome and the help

Before you do so, consider this in your decision.
- T-Mobile has unlimited data plan and free tethering atm while Att doesn't.
- T-Mobile has cheaper plans that att. Although ATT to T-Mobile phone calls aren't free, there is a certain amount of minutes in your plan you can use during peak hours or calling other phones from another carrier. I don't think you'll go over 500-700 minutes chit chatting with your pals that's what text msgs are for.
- T-Mobile HSDPA (if theres coverage) so depending on your location is faster than att 3G.
rohandhruva said:
Hi,
I am looking to trade my T-mobile Nexus One for one which works on ATnT frequencies. I will be arriving in the US in 15 days, and will be residing in Troy, New York (zip 12180).
The bootloader has been unlocked, but otherwise there is no modification/damage whatsoever. The phone is around 20 days old. I've been using a screen protector on it from day 0, so no scratches at all.
Would anyone be interested in a switch?
Note: I am looking for a switch only, please; not interested in selling. I'd prefer that the switch happens in-person. I'll post photos of the phone if anyone is interested, but really, it's brand new, no damage at all
Cheers.
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Cross post of this on market: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7247948
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Alternatively, if someone from India has that ATnT Nexus One and is willing to exchange in the next few days, that works out perfectly for me too. Note that in India, 3G will work on either ATT or T-Mobile Nexus One.
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rjhay22 said:
Before you do so, consider this in your decision.
- T-Mobile has unlimited data plan and free tethering atm while Att doesn't.
- T-Mobile has cheaper plans that att. Although ATT to T-Mobile phone calls aren't free, there is a certain amount of minutes in your plan you can use during peak hours or calling other phones from another carrier. I don't think you'll go over 500-700 minutes chit chatting with your pals that's what text msgs are for.
- T-Mobile HSDPA (if theres coverage) so depending on your location is faster than att 3G.
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Thank you. As a student, I don't think I'll be able to afford data/3G on my phone at all, and neither do I really need it. My only intention in switching to ATnT Nexus One is that if ATnT forces a data plan onto me, I'll be able to utilise it. But if there was a way to avoid a data plan altogether, I'd much rather prefer that!
Hmm yes you do have a point that 500 minutes won't be depleted, and I can talk during the off-peak hours. I think I need to re-evaluate my decision. Sigh, this is confusing!

rohandhruva said:
Thank you. As a student, I don't think I'll be able to afford data/3G on my phone at all, and neither do I really need it. My only intention in switching to ATnT Nexus One is that if ATnT forces a data plan onto me, I'll be able to utilise it. But if there was a way to avoid a data plan altogether, I'd much rather prefer that!
Hmm yes you do have a point that 500 minutes won't be depleted, and I can talk during the off-peak hours. I think I need to re-evaluate my decision. Sigh, this is confusing!
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Reading this thread, I think your best bet is:
1. If you cannot find someone to trade before you get here, fly in here, post on Craig's List LOCALLY and trade face to face, it will be faster and no costs to do so.
2. Since you are going to be added to a family plan, then your costs will be MUCH lower and since you are not getting a subsidized phone, they really can't force a data plan on you either way.
3. IF you decide on T-Mobile, see if your friends have the A-List option on their plans. If they do, they add your number and poof, no minutes to call anytime.
Regardless of what you decide, you really don't have to rush to trade your phone before you get here. It will work on AT&T or T-Mobile and it will be faster and easier to swap once you get here. Just keep it in good condition and make sure the one you get works.

Oh yah I remember... If you have the T-Mobile version of the nexus one then it will also work with att. You just can't have 3g on it, which you do not need in the first place. So you really don't need to trade after all.

rohandhruva said:
I would definitely want to avoid ATnT, fervently. But, unlike here in India, in USA even incoming calls are charged, so if most people around me are on ATT, I will have to use that, right?
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You can. Get Unlimited and youll still save money and it doesnt matter!
(Ex-Tmobile Employee)

Thank you all for your help! Coming from India, where the cellular system very different and very cheap, I really need some orientation
Talderon said:
Reading this thread, I think your best bet is:
1. If you cannot find someone to trade before you get here, fly in here, post on Craig's List LOCALLY and trade face to face, it will be faster and no costs to do so.
2. Since you are going to be added to a family plan, then your costs will be MUCH lower and since you are not getting a subsidized phone, they really can't force a data plan on you either way.
3. IF you decide on T-Mobile, see if your friends have the A-List option on their plans. If they do, they add your number and poof, no minutes to call anytime.
Regardless of what you decide, you really don't have to rush to trade your phone before you get here. It will work on AT&T or T-Mobile and it will be faster and easier to swap once you get here. Just keep it in good condition and make sure the one you get works.
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As I said, I really don't want to swap (especially because this N1 has some sentimental value attached to it, too). My only reason behind doing is that ATT will force a data plan on me, and then I will be paying for a facility which I can't use anyway. However, I am relieved to hear that they can't force a data plan if I don't have a subsidized phone. Do I specifically need to request this, or spend hours with a customer support tech fighting over it?
rjhay22 said:
Oh yah I remember... If you have the T-Mobile version of the nexus one then it will also work with att. You just can't have 3g on it, which you do not need in the first place. So you really don't need to trade after all.
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As I said, I am only worried because I heard that ATnT forces a data plan on you if they detect a smartphone. Is there any way to prevent that?
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You can. Get Unlimited and youll still save money and it doesnt matter!
(Ex-Tmobile Employee)
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I don't think I can afford an unlimited plan on Tmo either. And anyway people on ATT will still be charged, so others will be reluctant to call me/accept my calls. The concept of an A-list looks pretty good, though.
So, in the end it all boils down to whether (and how) I can avoid the unnecessary data plan they might add to my line in the family plan

Verizon and Motorola

So Verizon will no longer offer unlimited data plans to customers, but you can keep yours. When getting a new phone however you must purchase it in full. THat means around 500dollars per phone usually.
Motorola is also releasing updates now to their unlocked devices and locking them.
**** Verizon and Motorola.
My next phone will be a HTC or Samsung on (insert network name here that offers best data plan). i wont be bullied anymore. This is beyond ridiculous.

Just buy phones locally then. Plus, off contract phones are better then being locked down.
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Dri94 said:
So Verizon will no longer offer unlimited data plans to customers, but you can keep yours. When getting a new phone however you must purchase it in full. THat means around 500dollars per phone usually.
Motorola is also releasing updates now to their unlocked devices and locking them.
**** Verizon and Motorola.
My next phone will be a HTC or Samsung on (insert network name here that offers best data plan). i wont be bullied anymore. This is beyond ridiculous.
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Will it looks like after that happens if i need a new phone and have to buy it out right then i will just swich to straight talk because 45 a mouth unlimited talk text and web that beats ne paying the BIG V 400 mouth any ways so i think i will unlock my droid 3 now thanks for the info man
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KayxGee1 said:
Just buy phones locally then. Plus, off contract phones are better then being locked down.
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yea i know, i used to live in europe and thats the way my parents bought them for me. but im a college student, i dont have half a G to spend on a nice phone :/ i wish these big corporations would stop tryin to mess us over. They have all the coverage so they can do what they want now.
leerpsp said:
Will it looks like after that happens if i need a new phone and have to buy it out right then i will just swich to straight talk because 45 a mouth unlimited talk text and web that beats ne paying the BIG V 400 mouth any ways so i think i will unlock my droid 3 now thanks for the info man
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how is the coverage with straighttalk though? the plans seem to much of a great deal to not have some drawback somewhere. otherwise why are they not leading the market lol

Dri94 said:
So Verizon will no longer offer unlimited data plans to customers, but you can keep yours. When getting a new phone however you must purchase it in full. THat means around 500dollars per phone usually.
Motorola is also releasing updates now to their unlocked devices and locking them.
**** Verizon and Motorola.
My next phone will be a HTC or Samsung on (insert network name here that offers best data plan). i wont be bullied anymore. This is beyond ridiculous.
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I think you have a couple of misconceptions going on there. You are confusing the brand of phone and the carrier. It's verizon billing you for data. Motorola has nothing to do with that. Buy an HTC or Samsung phone on Verizon and the price for data is the same as if you bought a Motorola phone. Buy a Motorola phone on a different carrier and the price for data on that phone will be the same as any other phone on that carrier.
Also how do you figure $500 per phone? Currently I'm one of the people grandfathered in on an unlimited data plan. That's $30 per month for unlimited data. So over the course of a 24 month contract, I'll actually pay $720 for data. People who are not grandfathered are still paying the same $720 over 24 months but are only getting 2 GB per month. Since 2 GB is plenty for me, it doesn't much matter.
The only difference with the new plans coming out this summer is that data is charged per account rather than per phone. If you add a tablet for example, you don't necessarily have to pay for any more data if both devices together stay within the cap. The thing is everyone is panicking and complaining before we even know what the caps will be and what the price will be for each tier.
For example if it were still $30 for two gigabytes I could actually save $30 per month. currently my wife has her $30 and I have my $30 for a total of $60 between us. But we each on our own have never exceeded 900 MB so we could switch to a pool of 2 GB total to share between us and end up paying half as much total. but we need to know the facts and figures to make those comparisons...
And right now, everyone complaining doesn't have any more idea than I do.

I'm just done with Verizon. I'm going with prepaid now. :|

Lol ratman you read my post wrong. Ill explain
Motorola sent a update locking an unlocked phone. Im assuming the trend dwill continue as they havent started unlocking phones they said they would. But instead doing the opposite and locking unlocked phones..
Seperately, verizon is getting rid of unlimited or 2gb data plan. You can keep it if you already have it but if you want to get a new phone (using it for your unlimited) you must buy it completely. Meaning around 500 dollars. Thats how much phones actually cost if you dont buy with a plan.
I believe you still can upgrade for free however on your plan

Dri94 said:
yea i know, i used to live in europe and thats the way my parents bought them for me. but im a college student, i dont have half a G to spend on a nice phone :/ i wish these big corporations would stop tryin to mess us over. They have all the coverage so they can do what they want now.
how is the coverage with straighttalk though? the plans seem to much of a great deal to not have some drawback somewhere. otherwise why are they not leading the market lol[/QUOTED
Straight talk has good coverage there is one drawback after you go over 2 gb of net they slow your speed down but its still fast as hell even when they do my bro has it and uses it for the net with his laptop with his droid 3 and same speed as me if not faster and so its a good deal but to get good phones like the razer droid 3 and iphone you have to buy them out right and also somthing cool you can have any att phone and you do not have to get it unlocked they have a sim that works with it!
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Lol throttling is alot better than having a cap. Honestly that is not an issue to me. But thanks man your a god for that info, im going to look more into it and see if that is a good alternative. Sounds great so far :]
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Dri94 said:
yea i know, i used to live in europe and thats the way my parents bought them for me. but im a college student, i dont have half a G to spend on a nice phone :/ i wish these big corporations would stop tryin to mess us over. They have all the coverage so they can do what they want now.
how is the coverage with straighttalk though? the plans seem to much of a great deal to not have some drawback somewhere. otherwise why are they not leading the market lol
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I currently use straight talk service with my droid 3 and it is awesome. With the droid 3 you get the option to get an att or a tmobile based sim card and you get all their normal coverage.

Looks like straight talk just earned a new customer :] well once i get my job lmao

When the time comes, I'll probably pay full price for my next phone. I just won't purchase it from Verizon. I'll buy something that'll work on their network, but without the stupid locked bootloader or bloatware.

Nexus 3G Users (UK) Cheap Data (Prepaid) Under £35 a year!!!

Here is a heads up for anyone in the UK buying a Nexus 7 3G and wanting cheap data.
Virgin are doing an offer at the moment 12 Months Free Data when you buy a PAYG Smartphone.
Fair Use is 1Gb a month which should be ok for most users.
Cheapest phone included in the deal is just £34.99 - In the box is a voucher for your free 12 Months net. Activate it and pop it in your Nexus 7,
You can get £11 for the handset at CEX or give it to a kid. Whatever you do with it, very cheap price for a 1GB Data a month for 12 months,
Sim also has £10 credit already on it so some cash for sending texts...
£7.99 Delivery charge if you buy online, but also available in Virgin Media Stores across the country
And it works very well..
Link to Phone
http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/viewProduct.do?productId=19804757
Link to T&CS on Data
http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/genericContent.do?contentId=our.promotions.footer.sm191

Great news
I have a wifi Nexus, and use a dongle to connect to the net when there is no wifi available, could you confirm that, virgin sim cards work with dongles and is it legal or not?

I know that Three probably don't have the best reputation but the plan I am on is amazing
I bought one of their sim only plans on a one month contract. Disregarding the text and voice allowance, since this is designed for a phone, it comes with all you can eat data. All for £12.50 a month! The one catch if you can call it that, is tethering isn't allowed, but that doesn't bother me.
The network is probably not as good as others, but its held up pretty well while I've been using it. I suggest others give it a try before over spending on other networks. I find they tend to short change in terms of data.
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savalangh said:
Great news
I have a wifi Nexus, and use a dongle to connect to the net when there is no wifi available, could you confirm that, virgin sim cards work with dongles and is it legal or not?
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Sorry I have no idea about dongles I have only used the sim in the Nexus and an iPad so not sure if they would have any way to tell if it was in a dongle or if that was against T&Cs
sighdroid said:
I know that Three probably don't have the best reputation but the plan I am on is amazing
I bought one of their sim only plans on a one month contract. Disregarding the text and voice allowance, since this is designed for a phone, it comes with all you can eat data. All for £12.50 a month! The one catch if you can call it that, is tethering isn't allowed, but that doesn't bother me.
The network is probably not as good as others, but its held up pretty well while I've been using it. I suggest others give it a try before over spending on other networks. I find they tend to short change in terms of data.
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Not really a comparison £12.50 a MONTH on contract against £35 or less for a YEAR without contract?

What about the T-Mobile £10 iPhone microSIM deal that includes free data for a year? Wouldn't that still be the best? Or is there some drawback with that?

ksqp said:
What about the T-Mobile £10 iPhone microSIM deal that includes free data for a year? Wouldn't that still be the best? Or is there some drawback with that?
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You need to have access to an unlocked (or on the T-Mobile network) iPhone 4 or 4S to get the offer. If you have then it works. I didn't (the iPhone I was goign to use was locked to Vodaphone) and instead I used the £20 for 6 months offer they have. Not as good as the virgin offer above, but it worked (SMS and data are both fine) and its pretty cheap. You're limited to 500mb data / month with T-mobile's fair use policy.

Setup one of these: T-Mobile SIM from eBay, today. Works fine in my MiFi and is ready if/when I get my hands on a Nexus 7 3G.

AngeleDei said:
You need to have access to an unlocked (or on the T-Mobile network) iPhone 4 or 4S to get the offer. If you have then it works. I didn't (the iPhone I was goign to use was locked to Vodaphone) and instead I used the £20 for 6 months offer they have. Not as good as the virgin offer above, but it worked (SMS and data are both fine) and its pretty cheap. You're limited to 500mb data / month with T-mobile's fair use policy.
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Ah OK, I wondered if that might be the case. As it happens, I do have access to an unlocked iPhone 4S (not mine, I hasten to add).
I haven't got my N7 3G yet - if only I could find somewhere to buy one - but I have bought a 3-month 3GB Three SIM for just under £11, in readiness. After 3 months though, my custom is up for grabs.

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Sorry I have no idea about dongles I have only used the sim in the Nexus and an iPad so not sure if they would have any way to tell if it was in a dongle or if that was against T&Cs
Not really a comparison £12.50 a MONTH on contract against £35 or less for a YEAR without contract?
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Its a 1 month rolling contract, so you are hardly tied down. The advantages of unlimited data outweigh my concerns. Worst comes to the worst, I cancel it with one months notice. It is hardly a massive obligation.
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It looks to me that you have to top up a tenner each month to get the free data...

warface said:
It looks to me that you have to top up a tenner each month to get the free data...
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No it clearly says in the description 12 months free web (1Gb a month)
When you buy the package they give you one of these scratchcards, you text the code on the card and you get a text back saying 1gb a month has been added to you your account this month and for the next 12 months.
Its only £10 a month if you don't buy the phones that come with the free 12 months web
Images Attached for reference. (The Code on the scrachcard has already been used )

Thanks, just ordered a nexus 7 mobile, will be buying this, how's virgin data? 3G or HSPDA, and reach?

3G/HSPA
flashyphotos said:
No it clearly says in the description 12 months free web (1Gb a month)
When you buy the package they give you one of these scratchcards, you text the code on the card and you get a text back saying 1gb a month has been added to you your account this month and for the next 12 months.
Its only £10 a month if you don't buy the phones that come with the free 12 months web
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How is network cover ? Do you have good 3G/HSPA support ?

vladi246 said:
How is network cover ? Do you have good 3G/HSPA support ?
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I believe that virgin uses EE's network. So cover should be pretty good
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Emma: Hello, as a Virgin Mobile order specialist, I can help you set up a new mobile account and select a phone. Are there any questions I may help answer for you today?
You: to get the free data do i have to top up each month?
Emma: Thank you for your interest in Virgin Mobile.
Emma: Yes, you need to top up each month.

Any updates to this?
Is the T-mobile iPhone sim card offer still the cheapest way to go?

Hi all.
Can anyone update this thread on an economical data SIM deal for use with the N7 3G in the UK? I'm after something that would give say <500Mb a month for occasional use.
I have one of the T-Mobile iPhone SIMs that works fine in most things but won't work in the N7 (I've tried it in 2 N7s now) and the Virgin deal mentioned earlier seems to have finished.
Any info appreciated.
Cheers - Y

Ydnaroo said:
Hi all.
Can anyone update this thread on an economical data SIM deal for use with the N7 3G in the UK? I'm after something that would give say <500Mb a month for occasional use.
I have one of the T-Mobile iPhone SIMs that works fine in most things but won't work in the N7 (I've tried it in 2 N7s now) and the Virgin deal mentioned earlier seems to have finished.
Any info appreciated.
Cheers - Y
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I'm not in the UK but I've heard of giffgaff which is an O2 MVNO. They have a £5/month 500 MB tablet plan.

cmstlist said:
I'm not in the UK but I've heard of giffgaff which is an O2 MVNO. They have a £5/month 500 MB tablet plan.
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Hi. Thanks for that. I should have said in my original post that I need to avoid any O2 based services. O2 data connections are pretty dire in the places I normally use my devices. Vodafone is a bit better but not great. I've got a T-Mobile SIM that I use in a MiFi with my N7 and that works fine in most places so I'm probably looking for something from T-Mobile/Orange (EE) or Virgin.
Thanks again - Y

Fair enough. Foreigners rarely know which networks are the crappy ones
If you find a good option, let us know in case I come visit.
Regarding the Tmo iPhone SIM, could it be an APN issue or are they blocking the tablet? The firmware probably defaults to T-Mobile's tablet APN and you'd need to set it to their iPhone APN.
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NFC, Android Pay, LTE

So i've searched the forum and got an impression this might work.
I have owned AW for 2 years on my Sony SmartWatch 3, it has NFC but AW never activated AP on AW til AW2. I just today ordered a used Urbane2 which is due to get AW2, and based on the AP on AW explanation implies that AP will work on the Urbane when it gets AW2 - right?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...ndroid-wear-is-here-and-this-is-how-it-works/
So literally once we get AW2 on Urbane we'll get AP?

nigelhealy said:
So i've searched the forum and got an impression this might work.
I have owned AW for 2 years on my Sony SmartWatch 3, it has NFC but AW never activated AP on AW til AW2. I just today ordered a used Urbane2 which is due to get AW2, and based on the AP on AW explanation implies that AP will work on the Urbane when it gets AW2 - right?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...ndroid-wear-is-here-and-this-is-how-it-works/
So literally once we get AW2 on Urbane we'll get AP?
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That is my understanding/hope as well.
When the Android Team announced the upcoming 2.0 release on reddit, the AW team member stated in the comments NFC enabled devices, including the Sport and Urbane 2nd Edition, would be able to use Android Pay.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidWear/comments/5su6z0/slug/ddi4a7j
Also, here is a teardown photo showing the NFC chip in the 2nd Edition.
http://goo.gl/7Zjnp1

I just bought one yesterday, its pretty cool, but W2 is when it will become super useful. Why doesn't Urbane 2 have its own thread? Anyone know

Drops77 said:
..... Why doesn't Urbane 2 have its own thread? Anyone know
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Not sure really. Maybe not as many users? A result of the recall in November 2015 of the original release? Who knows. I've had mine since the original release, two days before the recall, and still wear it daily. For my purposes, it's still the best option available for AW.

I didn't know there was a recall! I just picked mine up. Looking into it.

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I didn't know there was a recall! I just picked mine up. Looking into it.
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The original release in November 2015 was recalled. It was re-released in March/April of 2016.
It sold briefly for $299 new in November 2015 before the recall then it was released again 2016 for $360 new. That's the AT&T version pricing.

Is there a way to know if you have the recall version or the new hardware version?
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Bought mine used, trying to find a hardware number for pre-recall post.

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Is there a way to know if you have the recall version or the new hardware version?
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Bought mine used, trying to find a hardware number for pre-recall post.
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Do you have the original box? There is a SKU number on it. 6387 is the newer release. My original release has 6106 on it.

No I bought it used. Is there another way or a serial number range?

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No I bought it used. Is there another way or a serial number range?
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Hmmm I'd have to research about the serial number. They didn't sell very many originally since it was only on sale for a few days so my guess is it's the new version. I haven't had any issues with the original version.

given its 18 months later, the LG Watch Sport looks disappointing specs upgrade, seems a downgrade in battery size (why?) and yet still a big warch and only really chipset improved, given current prices the Urbane2 is about half the price for similar specs. You then have puzzle of the Huawei Watch 2 even higher price for lower specs.
Interest moment coming when AW2 out and then see if AP works. I have rooted phone, AP works (magisk) on phone but the word is not on AW.

nigelhealy said:
given its 18 months later, the LG Watch Sport looks disappointing specs upgrade, seems a downgrade in battery size (why?) and yet still a big phone and only really chipset improved, given current prices the Urbane2 is about half the price for similar specs. You then have puzzle of the Huawei Watch 2 even higher price for lower specs.
Interest moment coming when AW2 out and then see if AP works.
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If I had to replace my watch for any reason currently, I'd get the U2 again. Other than the rotating crown, the Sport doesn't offer much more for twice the price. Also, for my specific use, there isn't another watch that can provide the same functions. I like being able to forward calls to the watch and leave the phone behind during GPS recorded runs. I was also able to do this while visiting family in France because the U2 includes the 2100 band, the Sport does not. I know that's a rare need, but it was nice to have. My Truphone SIM is global so it worked with no problems.

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If I had to replace my watch for any reason currently, I'd get the U2 again. Other than the rotating crown, the Sport doesn't offer much more for twice the price. Also, for my specific use, there isn't another watch that can provide the same functions. I like being able to forward calls to the watch and leave the phone behind during GPS recorded runs. I was also able to do this while visiting family in France because the U2 includes the 2100 band, the Sport does not. I know that's a rare need, but it was nice to have. My Truphone SIM is global so it worked with no problems.
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Good to know, hadn't thought the radio bands. Although puzzling.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/PoGNC4D/lg-w200a-watch-urbane-2nd-edition-lte/france
says shouldn't get any kind of signal?

nigelhealy said:
Good to know, hadn't thought the radio bands. Although puzzling.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/PoGNC4D/lg-w200a-watch-urbane-2nd-edition-lte/france
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Yeah there are a lot of inaccuracies out there. The watch does support B1 2100 band. It definitely worked in France. Select 'specifications' at the top of this site. They don't mention B1, probably because it isn't an AT&T band, but they show support for 2100.
https://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/devices/lg-watch-urbane-2.jsp#fbid=isDV_yi8j3B

Regarding service, I'm in the united States. What sub carrier can I get a sim from and connect my watch for the cheapest? Ideally I would like Google Fi, but I need a service to add the data Sim. Wish there was a thread for confirmed carriers we can use. I heard TMobile works, but only 3g.

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Regarding service, I'm in the united States. What sub carrier can I get a sim from and connect my watch for the cheapest? Ideally I would like Google Fi, but I need a service to add the data Sim. Wish there was a thread for confirmed carriers we can use. I heard TMobile works, but only 3g.
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T-Mobile does work with their phone SIM. Some have tried their wearable SIM with little success because they won't allow a non T mobile device on the wearable plan. I originally tried H2O and Ting but couldn't get data to work and there isn't a way to adjust the APN settings. I eventually found Truphone. They are a global SIM that uses AT&T network here in the US. It's 10 cents per minute/SMS/mb with free incoming calls/texts. It's perfect for my use, but if you end up using a lot of data it could add up quickly.

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T-Mobile does work with their phone SIM. Some have tried their wearable SIM with little success because they won't allow a non T mobile device on the wearable plan. I originally tried H2O and Ting but couldn't get data to work and there isn't a way to adjust the APN settings. I eventually found Truphone. They are a global SIM that uses AT&T network here in the US. It's 10 cents per minute/SMS/mb with free incoming calls/texts. It's perfect for my use, but if you end up using a lot of data it could add up quickly.
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Do you get full LTE? Can I buy it at a store like Walmart or Target near check out?

mward1995 said:
T-Mobile does work with their phone SIM. Some have tried their wearable SIM with little success because they won't allow a non T mobile device on the wearable plan. I originally tried H2O and Ting but couldn't get data to work and there isn't a way to adjust the APN settings. I eventually found Truphone. They are a global SIM that uses AT&T network here in the US. It's 10 cents per minute/SMS/mb with free incoming calls/texts. It's perfect for my use, but if you end up using a lot of data it could add up quickly.
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Good to know. I have ATT and T-mobile SIMs in my OnePlus3T, I was going to try both in the Urbane2 and find out the actual coverage, and then decide what to do next. I was with Straighttalk before ATT, and around here ATT tends to be better coverage than T-mobile. So if Truphone is a ATT based, usage-based for the odd time not with your mobile that might be (agreed) perfect complement. The 9c/MB is the worrying part because its free for incoming and in the context of AW its going to be incoming mostly. Notifications over LTE would add up to a few MB? What is your AW Truphone MB/month type usage off you Truphone bill?

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Do you get full LTE? Can I buy it at a store like Walmart or Target near check out?
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It does receive LTE and actually it's 9 cents per minute/sms/mb with free incoming calls/texts. They are not sold in the store as far as I know. I ordered the SIM online. It was $30 and included $15 of credit. I only activate LTE when I'm running a few times a week. I average about 1MB of data per run so it's costing me $1-$2 dollars a month. FYI, when AW 2.0 arrives it could allow for more data usage if you stream music or download apps away from the phone. I play music from the watch through bluetooth headphones so I don't plan on streaming or downloading apps on LTE.
https://www.truphone.com/us/consumer/sim/

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It does receive LTE and actually it's 9 cents per minute/sms/mb with free incoming calls/texts. They are not sold in the store as far as I know. I ordered the SIM online. It was $30 and included $15 of credit. I only activate LTE when I'm running a few times a week. I average about 1MB of data per run so it's costing me $1-$2 dollars a month. FYI, when AW 2.0 arrives it could allow for more data usage if you stream music or download apps away from the phone. I play music from the watch through bluetooth headphones so I don't plan on streaming or downloading apps on LTE.
https://www.truphone.com/us/consumer/sim/
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Looking around U.S mobile seems like an even cheaper alternative. If only using data, but doubt I'll get LTE