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Ok so i have a cracked digitizer...
I am going to replace it myself, however this phone is obviously not a straight forward repair.
Anyone have any personal experience replacing the digitizer on this phone? I have seen the youtube videos and read the xda.cn chinese breakdown, just looking for some personal input on the process if someone has one.
Also what will i need to rebuilt it? Do i need double sided tape etc. Thanks
80 views and no ones ever had experience with this?
i replaced it on 2 hd7 phones.
its a real pain to get it off because the glue tape they use goes all the way around, and its strong stuff.
you need to take apart the entire phone to get to the ribbon cable where the digitizer plugs in, so just look for some youtube videos of a tear down and watch carefully.
honestly the hardest part for me was getting the screen and digitizer clean of fingerprints and tiny broken glass pieces without messing up the screen, while keeping the double sided tape i put on in place and intact.
just take your time and everything will go smoothly.
-edit- yes you will need some double sided tape because when you take the digitizer off the sticky layer of the tape goes with it, the rest of the tape stays on the screen and is impossible to get off without damaging your screen so you have to apply new tape over it.
i used some thin scotch brand double sided tape and i cut it into long narrow strips with a razor using my old digitizer as a cutting board, the same width as the original tape.
Hi mate appreciate the advice in my thread on the HD7 replacement.
I managed to get the digitizer out, however on replacing the new one i have a problem..
You know the old digitizer has three plastic prongs, on the buttons at the bottom, search etc.
Am i rigth in saying they need to be transferred to the new digitizer? As i can't see how they fit on the LCD when stuck to the digitizer? It raises the digitizer a little, unless they hand off the edge of the lcd?
Thanks
CraiGDaniel said:
Hi mate appreciate the advice in my thread on the HD7 replacement.
I managed to get the digitizer out, however on replacing the new one i have a problem..
You know the old digitizer has three plastic prongs, on the buttons at the bottom, search etc.
Am i rigth in saying they need to be transferred to the new digitizer? As i can't see how they fit on the LCD when stuck to the digitizer? It raises the digitizer a little, unless they hand off the edge of the lcd?
Thanks
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Those are nothing more than spacers. I have replaced two digitizers without them. As long as you get some good 3M double sided in that area there is no problems.
StevetotheH said:
Those are nothing more than spacers. I have replaced two digitizers without them. As long as you get some good 3M double sided in that area there is no problems.
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um no they arent spacers...they are what directs the light to the 3 bottom keys. they are there for a reason so i recommend using them... ... now you are spot on with the 3m tape as it is the tape needed to do this whole job properly... the scotch crap is not made for this and WILL NOT HOLD UP NOR SEAL PROPERLY>>>
and for the person who said to put the tape over the old.... not a good idea... it can be removed and new should be used to replace the old..
sorry but i do this daily for a living so i do have a clue about this... just trying to help make it a successful repair and not one that ends up in my shop after the home repair failed and it damaged more than just the screen.....
Is it possible to heat up the glass and carefully remove the front broken glass, then use loca glue and a UV light to glue on a new one. Saw it done on a first gen put can u do it on these too, it seems there is now bezel or frame around the glass like the first gen either.
If you watch Erika griffins tear down I believe (don't quote me ) that you have to take the phone apart and you'd risk doing damage to the back cover very easy to damage that taking it off
gray223 said:
Is it possible to heat up the glass and carefully remove the front broken glass, then use loca glue and a UV light to glue on a new one. Saw it done on a first gen put can u do it on these too, it seems there is now bezel or frame around the glass like the first gen either.
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No problem)
"Action" - 1:30
Glue - 4:40
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No problem)
"Action" - 1:30
Glue - 4:40
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Thanks but I can't talk Spanish so this is useless, you disassembled the phone but why?
gray223 said:
Thanks but I can't talk Spanish so this is useless, you disassembled the phone but why?
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I just found this video. It is not mine.
This is the only way to replace the glass.
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No problem)
"Action" - 1:30
Glue - 4:40
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VasyaAgPro said:
I just found this video. It is not mine.
This is the only way to replace the glass.
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OK got a chance to watch the whole video, looks like he striped it all the way down to the front display assembly, then put the glass on a hot plate and got a string to separate the glue from the glass. Still would like to know if its necessary to disassemble the phone? Was it because he didn't want the heat to get to the stuff inside the phone?
Anyone?
This morning I was cleaning my phone (getting rid of the finger prints/smudges) while standing up when it slipped out of my hand and hit the tiled floor. Everything is fine except the screen (which is cracked). Screen works fine but is unresponsive no matter where I press or touch the screen. How much does a Z3 Compact replacement screen cost? I searched around and it seems it is about $100?
Screen replacement costs in Poland +/- 135$
(authorised sony service)
Yes' it's hard to get original one cheaper than 100-120$. You can search for some Chinese replacement cause sometimes it looks quite similar to original one but You must check it before buying. Last time I had a client with Z1c replacement screen which he bought for 40$ and there was no white color, everything what should be white was purple.
Voids warranty, cheap replacement
Got mine from here replacebase dot co dot uk (can not post links ), of course you void your warranty if you do it yourself.
Parts are good quality till now. I advice to order a back glass too, I broke mine when taking it out and had to reorder again (costs approx 6 pound).
Next time just heat up back glass with hair dryer and You wont break it.
Chamelleon said:
Next time just heat up back glass with hair dryer and You wont break it.
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Thanks for the input
The problem was a small crack which did not matter until you have to remove it, you can not pull on it when its cracked. Anyway I will use a hair dryer to put it back together (assemble, heat up, press with books).
Thanks for the replies.
I'll be getting the repair done from the official Sony shop/distributor I bought the phone from. Just wanted to get an idea of how much it "should" cost before I approach them.
m4mbax said:
Thanks for the input
The problem was a small crack which did not matter until you have to remove it, you can not pull on it when its cracked. Anyway I will use a hair dryer to put it back together (assemble, heat up, press with books).
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Hello
I have tried to change my backglass 3 times but after a few hours the glass falls off... (Yes, I cleaned the phone removing all the old adhesive - and yes, I had pressure on it over night ) But all the instructions I have found on the internet never mentioned anything about putting the glass on, and HEATING it up, and the putting pressure on it... Where have you found that advice? You could imagine that heating up would ruin the adhesive/making it thinner and thereby not waterproof...? But on the other hand your succesrate probably beats mine...
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I have tried to change my backglass 3 times but after a few hours the glass falls off... (Yes, I cleaned the phone removing all the old adhesive - and yes, I had pressure on it over night ) But all the instructions I have found on the internet never mentioned anything about putting the glass on, and HEATING it up, and the putting pressure on it... Where have you found that advice? You could imagine that heating up would ruin the adhesive/making it thinner and thereby not waterproof...? But on the other hand your succesrate probably beats mine...
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I think it was a comment below the iFixit tutorial. But one big warning here, I did extra maximally stupid and put it to 'press' under my table (with books around it). The table was too heavy and cracked my front screen once again :crying:
+ The rear glass sits fixed and has not loosened.
- Don't put too much pressure or you destroy it yet again like stupid me
m4mbax said:
I think it was a comment below the iFixit tutorial. But one big warning here, I did extra maximally stupid and put it to 'press' under my table (with books around it). The table was too heavy and cracked my front screen once again :crying:
+ The rear glass sits fixed and has not loosened.
- Don't put too much pressure or you destroy it yet again like stupid me
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Doh!!! ? I have also read on Ifixit and can see there are different opinions about if it is nessesary to heat or not. But I think I will follow your advice and heat the new back before putting it under (less pressure) ?.
Another thing I read on Ifixit is that someone writes that you should put on an adhesive sticker - eventhough the new back comes with adhesive already on...? What is your advice on this?
Most pre-glued adhesive stickers on back are useless. Now everytime I change back in Xperia Z, Z1, Z2, Z3 and compacts I need to remove pre-glued sticker and change it to original one. Many times I had complaint on it from my clients saying that back glass came off. So it's better to order original back glass or just original adhesive.
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Doh!!! I have also read on Ifixit and can see there are different opinions about if it is nessesary to heat or not. But I think I will follow your advice and heat the new back before putting it under (less pressure) .
Another thing I read on Ifixit is that someone writes that you should put on an adhesive sticker - eventhough the new back comes with adhesive already on...? What is your advice on this?
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Mine came with the adhesive ON the screen, I used that one, I didn't have a separate one. Be extra careful when 'placing' the adhesive where it belongs because you can not remove it once place (okay maybe slightly). Its important that it fits on the first to first and a half try. More adhesive means thicker layer --> glass will stick out
Anyway, most of the stories you read online are partially BS, the phone will work even when the glass is a tiny bit loose or when the adhesive rotated and is a bit thicker in one place. In my eyes, when you dared to order, you are very much capable of assemble the parts.
In btw, ordered new glasses today, hope my two left hands fix it this time.
PS: A lesson I learned on a friends Galaxy S2, do NEVER EVER try to use force when something sticks or is not as loose as in a video. Google or ask another person maybe you just dont do the trick. A connector didnt want to come off so we used a lever to lift it, CLICK, the place where the lever levered broke the board... :silly:
Edit 1: I think its not necessary to HEAT it, it just has to be a lil bit warmer than in your pocket or when calculating heavily. 30s under a hairdryer will be more than enough i guess.
Forgot to update this thread. I received my fixed phone last week. They replaced the screen and even the "bumpers" around the phone for $98. They even delivered the phone to my home free of charge. Looks brand new, all the minor dings I had on the phone are gone.
On another note, I also bought my first iPhone. Got an Space Gray iPhone 6s 128 GB with the official/Apple leather case for the 6s. Got it last Thursday. Been playing around with it a lot and, overall, I love it. Deciding on whether to keep my Z3 Compact as a back-up phone or just sell it. But geez, does the iPhone 6s load games and other apps fast (thanks to its NVMe storage).
Hi hope someone can offer some advice, I have replaced the screen on my Z3 compact. Screen works fine but it is lifting and not sticking. I have tried different types of tape, I have applied tape to the edge of the screen itself and the frame it's still lifting. Please can someone offer some advice
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Any one got any advice, this must be an issue somewhere.
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ali.gore said:
Any one got any advice, this must be an issue somewhere.
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Consider buying a B-7000 glue, it is used for displays mostly, I was advised by a friend to use it, since my screen has unglued as well, and he has already repaired couple of Z3/Z3c devices with it, and there were no reported lifted screens since than. For the back panel, you can use double sided tape, but adding B-7000 glue on one side (to avoid cracking sounds, depending on the used tape probably). You can do a bit of searching on Youtube for repair videos, I recall watching some with the mentioned B-7000 glue, easy to find.
I haven't done it myself, but I will very soon, dust has filled my front cam, and proximity sensor.
Good luck.
Cirra92 said:
Consider buying a B-7000 glue, it is used for displays mostly, I was advised by a friend to use it, since my screen has unglued as well, and he has already repaired couple of Z3/Z3c devices with it, and there were no reported lifted screens since than. For the back panel, you can use double sided tape, but adding B-7000 glue on one side (to avoid cracking sounds, depending on the used tape probably). You can do a bit of searching on Youtube for repair videos, I recall watching some with the mentioned B-7000 glue, easy to find.
I haven't done it myself, but I will very soon, dust has filled my front cam, and proximity sensor.
Good luck.
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other solution than b7000 ? from what i read on forums, after a while also this glue become "unglued"...clean, unclean, is still da same.
op3n said:
other solution than b7000 ? from what i read on forums, after a while also this glue become "unglued"...clean, unclean, is still da same.
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I think B7000 will get the job done. I have used it for my device and it has been a month already, screen and back plate haven't moved a bit, its like new. One thing to remember though, you have to make sure the whole frame is COMPLETELY covered with glue, otherwise it will not be enough to hold the screen. I made a mess at first try, because I missed some spots and the screen lifted on sides, next time though, I've checked 3 times for any empty spots and applied glue to those spots, now everything is perfect. Of course, you should cover frame only, avoid applying that much so that glue is dripping inside the phone itself.
Good luck
Cirra92 said:
I think B7000 will get the job done. I have used it for my device and it has been a month already, screen and back plate haven't moved a bit, its like new. One thing to remember though, you have to make sure the whole frame is COMPLETELY covered with glue, otherwise it will not be enough to hold the screen. I made a mess at first try, because I missed some spots and the screen lifted on sides, next time though, I've checked 3 times for any empty spots and applied glue to those spots, now everything is perfect. Of course, you should cover frame only, avoid applying that much so that glue is dripping inside the phone itself.
Good luck
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Gooood,ill give it a shot. But i was thinking if must remove back cover and the screen for glue only a corner...the back cover doesnt have any problem, only the display in left corner is unglued. And if i must to remove thats, i must buy and that adezive black or simple use only b7000 ? Thanks
I have some of the B-7000. Stuck the screen down over a week ago appears to be fine. The only issue I have is that I think the glue has squeezed onto the front camera, the camera is now blurred. I don't use the front one so it's not a big problem.
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op3n said:
Gooood,ill give it a shot. But i was thinking if must remove back cover and the screen for glue only a corner...the back cover doesnt have any problem, only the display in left corner is unglued. And if i must to remove thats, i must buy and that adezive black or simple use only b7000 ? Thanks
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I have used the glue, it's fine, you don't need stickers
You can try applying the glue only in that corner as well, but I'm not sure how well will that fix the issue.
I had to remove the screen anyway to clean the notification led cutout and front camera, so I didn't care for the back plate sticker.
Cirra92 said:
I have used the glue, it's fine, you don't need stickers
You can try applying the glue only in that corner as well, but I'm not sure how well will that fix the issue.
I had to remove the screen anyway to clean the notification led cutout and front camera, so I didn't care for the back plate sticker.
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go0o0d thanks man
Hi guys,
has anyone of you tried changing the front glass without digitizer and display?
In disassembly videos I can only see people changing the whole thing.
Also, do you think I can manage to repair the front glas as well as the USB port with just an iron instead of a hot air blower (and the usual tools made of plastic)?
Thanks in advance!
kadofl said:
Hi guys,
has anyone of you tried changing the front glass without digitizer and display?
In disassembly videos I can only see people changing the whole thing.
Also, do you think I can manage to repair the front glas as well as the USB port with just an iron instead of a hot air blower (and the usual tools made of plastic)?
Thanks in advance!
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I haven't done the front glass on mine yet, but my understanding is that in general you're really better off replacing front glass as an entire unit with digitizer and display. An iron on pretty low through a cloth/towel might well work. It's not just glue that melts, it's a thin strip of rubber gasket material with adhesive (okay, maybe it's thick glue, but it looked pre-formed to me) holding the glass back cover on.
Heating probably helps a bit with softening the stuff, but after the first time you peel it up you won't really need to do that again. I'd recommend picking a corner (say, bottom left as you're looking at the back) and just plan on prying from there every time, so you only have one spot where the plastic gets marred.
Don't spend too much time heating, worry more about having a suction cup tool that you can lift with while you try to work a guitar pick or hobby knife or something in under the corner. Have at least two ready, so you can wedge one in, and work your way around without it just dropping back down on you. You'll probably tear the material a bit but that's okay, just spread it back out evenly around the edge on the glass before you put the cover back on. Also, you definitely should be using a case to make sure it doesn't just fall off in your pocket once you've opened it up a couple times.
USB cable replacement isn't awful, just time consuming. The biggest gotcha is to keep all three of the little gold clips on the plastic "mid frame" ring (that's the first thing you remove that requires screws after getting the back glass up) from fallling and getting lost.
You can PM me if you have any questions about this, I've replaced my USB cable/port assembly a couple times (first replacement was defective). And I'm about to attempt replacing the screen as a whole unit with glass & digitizer on my wife's Z2 Plus, so I'll let you know how that goes.