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Hey guys, I got my Nexus One earlier this week, and I love it so far, but I have some issues with my screen.
There seems to be a checkerboard kind of print on it. I can't really explain it any better than that. At first I thought it was maybe residue from the plastic wrapping it came in, but after a week and some thorough cleaning, it's still there.
It appears to be finger grease, which indicates that there's a problem with the glass. After cleaning it with a microfiber cloth, the pattern is gone (or at least extremely hard to see), but after some use, it becomes clearly visible again. To me, this says there's extremely small deviations in the glass, which finger grease gets stuck in where it isn't removed by a quick wipe down. To further support this theory, the screen seems more rough swiping top to bottom, than bottom to top, which would make sense given the pattern.
Edit: After thoroughly cleaning the screen, the breathing on it (like a window), my breath makes the pattern clearly visible. Though, this doesn't really confirm anything.
Has anyone else had or seen this issue? Any recommendations on fixing it, or should I be calling up HTC?
I'll try to take a picture when I get home from work, but I doubt it'll be visible. My only other camera is an iPhone.
I think what you see is the digitizer. It is barely visible but you can see it on every touchscreen phone
watercool said:
I think what you see is the digitizer. It is barely visible but you can see it on every touchscreen phone
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Not to be one of those guys, but I never saw the digitizer on my iPhones, until I got my Nexus One. Had a moment of uh, my phone's screen is really going to be like that? until I realized what it was, and now I only notice it at an angle in bright light.
You are right, with you can see it I meant just in theory.
I saw it the first time on an n1 too, but only once or twice, but never saw it again since it is so barely visible
watercool said:
You are right, with you can see it I meant just in theory.
I saw it the first time on an n1 too, but only once or twice, but never saw it again since it is so barely visible
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Yeah, I definitely knew what you meant. Just wanted to throw that out there.
It kind of sounds like your phone is suffering some form of Newton rings. In the phone world its when the front screen presses on the digitizer and creates light refraction, thus looking like oil swirls. My HTC fuze suffered this horribly and it gets worse over time as far as touch sensitivity goes. I would recommend calling HTC. My nexus doesn't have this issue at all.
I am wondering now if the shipping nexus ones have the LCD screens instead of amoled because of the shortage in amoled screens though.
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I don't believe I'm seeing the digitizer. This is on the glass, not the display itself. It's visible on the bezel around the screen as well. I'll try to take a picture when I get home from work.
Edit: to be clear, it covers the entire front glass, over the display and the bezel, and is clearly visible even with the display on.
Strange issue. Never saw this when I purchased mine, though that's probably because I was excited to turn it on rather than inspect the body.
I think it probably has to with the adhesive material between the digitizer and the display not completely curing. When it does cure you don't see it very well but when you use the phone and it heats up the pattern comes back. At least that's my theory.
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Took some pictures. For the sake of size, I'll link them.
Full screen, off
Screen edge, off
Screen edge, on
These are pretty accurate, in terms of what daily usage is like. The full screen one might be a bit much, I had to hand print it up to get it to show in the picture, but the one with with the display on is pretty much what using it (indoors) is like.
I've seen that sometimes on my phone, but it's not nearly as often as it seems to be with yours. Not sure what that is then.
I had a problem with my screen that can only be described as similar. One of the replacement Nexus Ones I received had an incomplete oleophobic coating where the entire bottom 1/4th of the screen would be very clear and the top would get cloudy after light use. There were also a few circles just like the bottom of the phone on the upper portion as well.
I called HTC and they just replaced it for me. Sounds like you should do the same.
Whoa, those look like the glass was machined improperly or that the adhesive issue I hypothesized about earlier could be the culprit.
Contact HTC or Google at 1-888-48-NEXUS (63987).
hackm0d said:
Whoa, those look like the glass was machined improperly or that the adhesive issue I hypothesized about earlier could be the culprit.
Contact HTC or Google at 1-888-48-NEXUS (63987).
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Thanks! Just got off the phone, they're going to replace it. Also, I can't believe how friendly/helpful they were. I'm extremely impressed.
j.bruha said:
I had a problem with my screen that can only be described as similar. One of the replacement Nexus Ones I received had an incomplete oleophobic coating where the entire bottom 1/4th of the screen would be very clear and the top would get cloudy after light use. There were also a few circles just like the bottom of the phone on the upper portion as well.
I called HTC and they just replaced it for me. Sounds like you should do the same.
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Nexus One's do not have a oleophobic coating on the screen.
cbaltzer said:
Thanks! Just got off the phone, they're going to replace it. Also, I can't believe how friendly/helpful they were. I'm extremely impressed.
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Same here, they're extremely nice.
I wanted to get a replacement battery since mine has short battery life and constantly overheats, so they forwarded me to HTC but unfortunately for some reason they didn't have my IMEI or S/N on their records, so I couldn't do anything.
So I put in an RMA for my nexus 4 since my earpiece was not working, i got in on the first day of sale, and other then having to make calls through speakerphone, ive been extremely happy with the phone.
so i put in my RMA, and just received the unit 2 days ago. and i have some concerns.....
for starters, the screen on the replacement unit seems to have something wrong with it, cant quite figure out what it is, its not the common yellow spotting issue, its more of a washed out, lack of brightness issue. its not as bright as my original, and the whites seem dull and off-white, and the greys( particularly the settings menu) seem to have a yellow/greenish tint. I tried the color calibration apps (both the nexus 4 display app and the faux app) nothing seemed to work.i have taken pictures to show the differences.
another issue is with the back glass. If you see the pictures around the camera opening, my original has a noticeably bigger opening then my replacement, god knows why, but this ties in with the tittle of this thread and my concern, could this back glass have been broken and replaced by LG and passed off as a new in box unit?
the last piece of this puzzle is with the packaging itself, the box was new, had original black tape security tabs identical to my original nexus, also the screen protectors were in place as well, also identical to my original nexus. but what was definitely not present was the thin tiny strips of vinyl covering the chrome bezel, there was 4 in total on my original, this RMA unit had none, what gives?
so there is it, sorry for the long rant, just wanted to see what everyone thinks about this.
pics showing the difference in screen quality, original unit on right, replacement on left, also my original unit has the larger camera opening, let me know what you think.
Yellowing is normal with IPS Panels, it's the glue drying, give it a few days and it will be gone.
The camera lens has been discussed in other threads. It's apparently a hardware revision and makes no difference with the camera quality
I don't think my Nexus 4 had any plastic wrapping around the chrome finish. Anyone else?
nexus14 said:
I don't think my Nexus 4 had any plastic wrapping around the chrome finish. Anyone else?
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There was none, the device was bare.
You seem to have gotten a rev 11. Give the RMA a week and then compare the screens. The yellow will be gone by then. As long as the yellow is uniform you should be good. Be grateful you didn't order an RMA this late and got an original rev 10. I think the 11s have better battery life and less light bleed. The rev 10 I received is awful... Came gritty and full of dust. Also had a nick in the glass underneath the factory screen cover, a black unfinished dot on the chrome, and a piece of debris under the glass. The yellow on my screen is only on the lower half of the screen. This is my 4th nexus. I have no. 5 on the way. Hope I get a good one the next time around.
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How do you tell which revision it is?
well, now that you mention it, that was one of the things i did notice, was less light bleed, total darkness with black background, my original unit has 2 spots on the top with very small light bleed, the new RMA unit has a tiny hint of light bleed in the same spot.
so im suddenly feeling alot better about my replacement unit thanks to you guys, my biggest concern was the missing vinyl pieces over the chrome bezel, glad to hear its normal.
i still have 18 days to send out my original unit, ill keep using it daily with full brightness and compare after a week.
Also, where was the camera opening change discussed?
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How do you tell which revision it is?
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I would like to know this too.
just confirmed, you can check your "rev" model by booting into fastboot, (hold vol up and vol down + power)
so my original is a rev-10 manufactured in 10/20, my new RMA unit is a Rev-11 manufactured 12/10, i hope the screen improves
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You seem to have gotten a rev 11. Give the RMA a week and then compare the screens. The yellow will be gone by then. As long as the yellow is uniform you should be good. Be grateful you didn't order an RMA this late and got an original rev 10. I think the 11s have better battery life and less light bleed. The rev 10 I received is awful... Came gritty and full of dust. Also had a nick in the glass underneath the factory screen cover, a black unfinished dot on the chrome, and a piece of debris under the glass. The yellow on my screen is only on the lower half of the screen. This is my 4th nexus. I have no. 5 on the way. Hope I get a good one the next time around.
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5th phone? I guess that means they'll probably give me a replacement too I thought after the 3rd unit they wouldn't do anything I'll call for a RMA tmrw my phone has been constantly overheating it even started to heat up when it was in my pocket on sleep
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Jayrod1980 said:
You seem to have gotten a rev 11. Give the RMA a week and then compare the screens. The yellow will be gone by then. As long as the yellow is uniform you should be good. Be grateful you didn't order an RMA this late and got an original rev 10. I think the 11s have better battery life and less light bleed. The rev 10 I received is awful... Came gritty and full of dust. Also had a nick in the glass underneath the factory screen cover, a black unfinished dot on the chrome, and a piece of debris under the glass. The yellow on my screen is only on the lower half of the screen. This is my 4th nexus. I have no. 5 on the way. Hope I get a good one the next time around.
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Mines a rev 10 and it's great, no issues, no light bleed, no yellow screen, none of that stuff.
The yellowing is not glue and it will no go away, my rma has a yellow tint and after weeks of use it is still there, my RMA also had the smaller camera hole aswell, waiting on my third nexus.
no vinyl on my bezel at all. Mine was not RMA.
Yeah, my N4 did not have any plastic on the bezel when it arrived BNIB. My RMA should come this week or the next (Bluetooth does not work on current device on Stock firmware and custom as well) and I will compare the two to see if there are any differences.
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No vinyl on my bezel as well. (original phone)
RMA will be here soon, will update on that too
AshtonTS said:
Mines a rev 10 and it's great, no issues, no light bleed, no yellow screen, none of that stuff.
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I received my RMA on November 29th. I have perfect Nexus except for some light bleed at the top. That's not a big deal especially since it's an IPS display. No yellowing, whites are perfect, no overheating, and I have a "faster" CPU.
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They've probably increased the gap around the lens so if the back glass cracks it cannot crack quite as close due to a bigger gap?
I also wonder what impact colours have around a phone camera lens because the black is quite reflective but the grey part isn't.
XxSilent22xX said:
The yellowing is not glue and it will no go away, my rma has a yellow tint and after weeks of use it is still there, my RMA also had the smaller camera hole aswell, waiting on my third nexus.
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This sucks to hear..... So the phone itself is not bad, the screen seems great and bright, but when I put it next to my original nexus its amazingly noticeable, and that's what kills me!!! Knowing that I do t have the best screen experience possible, ugghhhh
I called in the issue and might pursue another RMA, but I think I'm gonna wait a while, perhaps "rev-12" or whatever comes next will be better, but the screen is killing me right now!!!
Mine kind of yellow. But I don't care really. I change my phone every year or so. So it's not really big deal. The screen very crisp colors are very nice.
I regards to the yellow tint... Does LG out source their LCDs? Reason I ask is because the comparison shots just look like different screen temps. When I was buying iPhones, this was a common issue because apple used displays from both Samsung and LG. I had bought two phones on the same day for my wife and I, both the same model, and my phone had a very blue (cool temp) hue as compared to my wife's, which was much more yellow (warm temp). Just a thought.
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I finally got my hands on a demo unit of the T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 yesterday at the T-Mobile Store near the airport and was amazed of how the device felt in the hand. A lot superior than Apple's iPhone 6 Plus. My eyes couldn't ignore the detail of 5.7" display and all round metal frame. Very refined look. Samsung has come a long way; now only if they could consolidate themselves and keep up a job well done.
What are your thoughts on the Note 4's Build Quality compared to previous Note Series Models?
Never had the previous notes before, but I love the new design. Looks and feels very premium. The metal sides feel great. Only thing I don't like is the gap on the right, I pretty much have to blow dust out quite often. And I have a couple of small scratches at the edge of the metal band, the unpainted part. Other than that one of the best build quality compared to other phones, and I have had quite a few of them.
The built quality is 10/10 on the Note 4. All three note devices used plastic. Apple however remains to still have the best aluminum built quality
I would like to know does anyone have problem with the aluminium edges?
I am hearing that they are getting scratched easily so i wanna know does anyone have similar problem?
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I would like to know does anyone have problem with the aluminium edges?
I am hearing that they are getting scratched easily so i wanna know does anyone have similar problem?
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The only thing getting scratched when handling my phone is my finger that props up the phone from underneath
I did see the iphone 6/6+ in the ATT store a couple of days ago and I have to admit it looks and feels really good. The Note 4 and iphone 6/6+ bit have excellent build quality. That bending crap is blown way out of proportion.
It would have been nice if Samsung went with a different look for the back cover though, maybe something like the One Plus One's Sandstone backcover. But I don't mind it honestly. Hopefully we get some nice third party back covers soon.
Apart from the famous gap at the top and left hand side of the phone the phone feels solid. Love it, I just put a case on it to hide the gap and also coz im scared of it getting scratched.
Where are the potential areas to be scratched. i don't see aluminum anywhere on the Note 4; It's mainly metal with the surprising observation that the metal rim is painted.
RCJ89 said:
Apart from the famous gap at the top and left hand side of the phone the phone feels solid. Love it, I just put a case on it to hide the gap and also coz im scared of it getting scratched.
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Mine does not have a visible gap. Nor am I able to insert the edge of a business card.
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Where are the potential areas to be scratched. i don't see aluminum anywhere on the Note 4; It's mainly metal with the surprising observation that the metal rim is painted.
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You don't see aluminium, but it's mainly metal...? Erm...
The bits people are saying scratch easily are the un-painted chamfered metal edges - which are aluminium - they do scratch quite easily, but the scratches are always hairline and as the edge is very small, so is the scratch.
Oh, and on closer inspection, yes, I have a gap - a teeny tiny gap that's so small as not to be visible or worrisome. I can barely get the edge of a post-it note in there, definitely not a business card.
It's a beautiful phone, without a doubt the best made phone Samsung have come out with.
The parts which are exposed can be covered with InvisibleShield Skin to prevent the scratches from rising. Do note however, this may make you feel awkward in the public. On the brighter note, at least you have a better chance of selling a device in mint condition. Cheers
SquidgyB said:
You don't see aluminium, but it's mainly metal...? Erm...
The bit's people are saying scratch easily are the un-painted chamfered metal edges - which are aluminium - they do scratch quite easily, but the scratches are always hairline and as the edge is very small, so is the scratch.
Oh, and on closer inspection, yes, I have a gap - a teeny tiny gap that's so small as not to be visible or worrisome. I can barely get the edge of a post-it note in there, definitely not a business card.
It's a beautiful phone, without a doubt the best made phone Samsung have come out with.
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What are your thoughts on the Note 4's Build Quality compared to previous Note Series Models?
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I got mine about an hour ago, it's white. It looks more refined than my Note 3 and feels more substantial. Is it "OMG! It's night and day!," no. I think it'll be more impressive to people who haven't owned previous Samsung products than those of us that have evolved with them. Even thought both were "plasticky" I think the Note 2>Note 3 evolution introduced a more serious look to the Note's than Note 3>Note 4. Don't misunderstand, I'm very happy with the design/build improvements in the Note 4 they just aren't life altering. I will say this, the tolerances it's built to are impressive. The plastic filler in between the metal trim is laser perfect. As is how tightly the back cover fits flush to the trim. HTC had issues pulling the same thing off.
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Mine does not have a visible gap. Nor am I able to insert the edge of a business card.
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Mine does have a gap but its not big enough to really put a peice of paper in. I guess I only noticed it because I was looking for it.
Sometime with gaps, sometime not. I handed on about 4pcs of Note 4 and they have no gaps. Sony Z3 often come with gaps. Note 4 is stronger ( to bend ) than Z3.
Coming from an S4 its a marked improvement. I actually like the build quality better than the LG G3. Maybe it just fits in my hand better.
The gap seems more prominent on the Korean models, especially since initial reports of gap-gate originated from there. The T-Mobile Note 4 is assembled in Vietnam; I'm not sure how much leverage assembly workers there have in respect to minding the gap. Bear in mind the AT&T variant (with Snapdragon 805) is assembled in Korea.
Coming from note 2 it's a substantial improvement.
My note 4 is top notch. No gap anywhere.
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My note 4 is top notch. No gap anywhere.
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The gap on the Note 4 I've handled was the same as the ones found in the s4 and s5; no big deal.
People are blowing this way out of proportion. This was not a problem with the s4 or the s5, it's not a problem with the note 4.
One word... Excellent.
I do have a gapgate style gap at the top end of the glass, it's very small but a few bits of crud have got in there already.. I'm not happy about it but I'm also not going to get fussed over it as I was aware of the issue over a week ago. The other three sides of the glass are flush. The rest of the build quality is perfect, everything is so flush and the way the back fits around the curved metal bezel is just spot on. It's the first time I've felt Samsungs 'leather' back and I really like it, strangely soft to the touch.
I really wish they'd add lens covers to the cameras on these devices but that's a personal preference born out of the Sony Ericsson K series of phones.
Noticed something for the first time today. Looks like there's light bleeding from the left side edge of my screen where it meets the frame. It's not uniform either so it makes me think that there was some sealent that detached somehow. Anyone else have this issue? I'll try and take a pic once I have another camera to use.
Looks like the same is happening to mine. Left side bottom corner. Actually seems to just be the paint under the glass is peeling away or something? Doesn't seem like it's physically open, compromising the water resistance.
Look like this?
Sent mine in like 2 weeks ago. Still waiting for them to ship it back.
They managed to replace the LCD and motherboard for some reason... wth Samsung
another thread...its not light bleed -
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/light-bleed-t3670247
Dang. That's too bright for a dark room.
Huh just noticed that on mine too. Not that bad though but still noticable.
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I've had 2 replacements so far. First one was on the left side from top to bottom. Second phone was all round. Looked the screen had it's own halo!
Interestingly the store manager said that this is not the norm having compared them against the the display phones in store and his own Note 8 which were all flawless!
Whether it's the light reflecting from the screen etc etc, i personally believe this should not be like this, not when there is so much inconsistency between flawless handsets and handsets with the light bleed.
Samsung needs to address this and actually take ownership.
This is one of the first things i checked when i got my Note 8. Mine doesn't have this "bleed"
I don't know what everyone else's experience is with quality control but here's mine:
The first X5 Pro I had, I had to return for a replacement because I discovered in low light (dark room) there was a stuck pixel on the screen which was permanently lit green. This isn't acceptable on £1000+ device.
Now, my replacement device feels different in the hand. People will probably think I have OCD, but it looks like the ceramic back is actually somehow a fraction of a millimetre smaller than it should be, therefore the aliminium edges of the device do not blend seamlessly into the ceramic back cover and give that smooth, pebble-like feel. It now feels like I have a sharp edge resting against my palm or fingers when I hold the device.
Most people would probably not notice this but I do.
My wife has the X5 Pro in Black and doesn't have this issue.
I read somewhere about the ceramic milling process means that every since piece of ceramic is unique, but obviously within a certain tolerance, and the backs are matched up with the camera lenses during the production process.
I've attached a picture to try and convey what I am talking about. Unfortunately I don't have a picture of the back of my first device, which felt perfect in the hand.
It looks like there is around 0.5mm gap between the back and the edge of the device.
Would you return your device due to this, especially when you know what it should be like?
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Re the green pixel, I haven't had any and agree is unacceptable.
Re the back. I have a slight edge too but assumed that's how they all were. Doesn't bother me as I have a case around it. You may want to return it if it really is annoying you and you are 100pc sure that the first handset was seamless...(are you sure? Mind tricks?)...but no guarantee a replacement will be any different.
Interested to see how you get on.
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Re the green pixel, I haven't had any and agree is unacceptable.
Re the back. I have a slight edge too but assumed that's how they all were. Doesn't bother me as I have a case around it. You may want to return it if it really is annoying you and you are 100pc sure that the first handset was seamless...(are you sure? Mind tricks?)...but no guarantee a replacement will be any different.
Interested to see how you get on.
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Haha, yeah, my first thought was mind tricks, but my wife has the black one and it defo doesn't dig into your hand in the same way. Looking at them side by side, the back on her black X5 pro blends seamlessly into the frame whereas mine has an obvious lip.
Yes you are right about a replacement being no guarantee of being better. This is the first phone in 10+ years that I am using without a case because it feels so natural to hold, but when it digs into your hand and you can feel the ridge, it definitely isn't pleasant to hold.
Anyway, phoned the carrier and after a lengthy call with me trying to explain the issue to one of their first line tech support, it's getting replaced by courier tomorrow.
If this was an iPhone there would be threads all over twitter with people going bananas so I don't see how I should need to settle for second best when this phone costs more than most iPhone models bar the 13 pro max!
This is a good review with hi-res images of the sides of the phone, and on which you can see no visible lip (although harder to see on the black model).
Oppo Find X5 Pro Review - Slick smartphone with a Hasselblad camera
Review: The Oppo Find X5 Pro 5G employs 12 GB of RAM, 256 GB of UFS 3.1 memory, a triple camera with two Sony IMX766 sensors, very fast charging and an accurate LTPO AMOLED display.
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Ha now you got me thinking!
I can't hold this phone without a case, too slippery.
Agree, regardless when you spend a grand and ain't happy you should deal with it, no matter the issue. See if you can put up an image of the Mrs phone
Will do when she gets home
So, got the replacement and it definitely does not have the same issue.
This one is perfect, the back blends seamlessly into the sides.
Pleased you're happy mate. The pix don't make it easy to see the difference if I'm being honest. I'd kick off with Oppo if I were you. 1000 quid phone.