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Big difference: With and without backcover!

Hey people, look at these 2 pictures, that I just have taken:
With the backcover on:
http://www.4shared.com/file/53179104/2a29789d/Med_cover.html
And without:
http://www.4shared.com/file/53179169/2c2a3a6/Uden_cover.html
As you can see, there is a big difference. Hmm, why haven't HTC done something to this problem?

Are you sure you were at the same distance?
And what about the focus point? It seems a bit different between the 2 pics.....

flaviopac said:
Are you sure you were at the same distance?
And what about the focus point? It seems a bit different between the 2 pics.....
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Yes I'm very sure about that. I have tried with more pictures.

did you stick a 'lense protector' on the cover's lense screen? like if you stuck on a full body protector like invisibleSHIELD there'll be a piece for the lense cover too.
Or, did you forget to peel off the original one?

happyguy82 said:
did you stick a 'lense protector' on the cover's lense screen? like if you stuck on a full body protector like invisibleSHIELD there'll be a piece for the lense cover too.
Or, did you forget to peel off the original one?
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Haha, no i'm not that stupid Nothing "protection" is on.

the "lens" that is part of the back cover is obviously not optically neutral. Pretty lame if you ask me.

Syphon Filter said:
the "lens" that is part of the back cover is obviously not optically neutral. Pretty lame if you ask me.
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Without the back cover, the Diamond takes decent pictures, still slow on focusing and shutter release(you should see the Samsung F480, this little fellow shoots pictures almost like a normal digital cam) but pretty good for a 3.2 MP cam.
WITH back cover however, the pictures look like crap to me. Sometimes it looks like if the pictures have been taken through light fog and I can clean the lens cover as much as I want(not easy, tiny little bastard), after some time, the lens gets dirty/whatever again. Horrible, HTC definetely needs to find a better solution.

Here some more http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1365731&page=43&pp=15
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remove the small mirorr in a back cover that protect the camera from dust

Aqrab said:
remove the small mirorr in a back cover that protect the camera from dust
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It will "destroy" the backcover? hmm. And when the mirror is gone, dust can easier come into the camera lens?

mooooooa said:
It will "destroy" the backcover? hmm. And when the mirror is gone, dust can easier come into the camera lens?
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look i didnt try it but i think if we remove it the camera quality will increase
the htc p3600 and the touch dual doesnt have mirror for camera

Aqrab said:
look i didnt try it but i think if we remove it the camera quality will increase
the htc p3600 and the touch dual doesnt have mirror for camera
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Yes, of course the quality will increase, when a cheap plastic cover is removed But hmm, my Diamond is 2 days old, and I don't want to already destroy a part of the cover

mooooooa said:
Yes, of course the quality will increase, when a cheap plastic cover is removed But hmm, my Diamond is 2 days old, and I don't want to already destroy a part of the cover
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the problem is man that
when we want to clean the mirror we cant clean it good from the outside
we need to clean it to get better quality

Aqrab said:
the problem is man that
when we want to clean the mirror we cant clean it good from the outside
we need to clean it to get better quality
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But we can't clean the mirror everytime we just wanna take a picture. That's not a good way?

mooooooa said:
But we can't clean the mirror everytime we just wanna take a picture. That's not a good way?
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well ideally you should or you should remember not to put you fingers on the lens (not an easy task given the camera position i know) but lets be fair here, i mean its not as if you would take your stand alone digital camera, smear you greasy hands over the lens all day (+ let dust collect on it) and then expect it to take perfect pics...
be practical, if you remove the case screen for long you are gonna end up with scratches on the actual camera lens! and that's not easily replaceable now is it (not like the back cover...) lol

mooooooa said:
But we can't clean the mirror everytime we just wanna take a picture. That's not a good way?
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yah i know
im jast saying when we want to clean it
remember not to put your fingers on the lens

What we need is a back cover with a piece of glass in place of the piece of plastic which covers the lense.
This seems like the only solution to me.
Its because the plastic isnt very durable, it does mist up the photos. If you look on coolsmartphone.com ive also took some pictures and they looked alot better without the back plastic cover on.
I just hope someone somewhere is reading this as i would pay for a back cover with glass instead of plastic lense cover.
The pictures are alot sharper and arent misty without the cover on.

tomchap said:
What we need is a back cover with a piece of glass in place of the piece of plastic which covers the lense.
This seems like the only solution to me.
Its because the plastic isnt very durable, it does mist up the photos. If you look on coolsmartphone.com ive also took some pictures and they looked alot better without the back plastic cover on.
I just hope someone somewhere is reading this as i would pay for a back cover with glass instead of plastic lense cover.
The pictures are alot sharper and arent misty without the cover on.
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Your right!

white balance
Granted the backcover lens protector doesn't do justice to this phone. Adjusting the white balance does for improvement (say the lighhtbulb mode) I find. Again the camera does let this phone down, compared to others of similar spec. Can a software tweak solve the lag in motion when shooting in video mode at all? Is it as a 'simple' case as that I wonder!?

I just did some test shots with my xda diamond from germany and I honestly cant see a difference. can you tell which one is taken with the cover off?

Photos with or without back cover.

I tried to find why my pictures are soo foggy.
With backplate...
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff294/kiske13/TytnHotfix2.jpg
and without...
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff294/kiske13/Hotfix3.jpg
It's obvious that the plastic window of the camera is of a poor quality!!!

kiske13 said:
I tried to find why my pictures are soo foggy.
With backplate...
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff294/kiske13/TytnHotfix2.jpg
and without...
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff294/kiske13/Hotfix3.jpg
It's obvious that the plastic window of the camera is of a poor quality!!!
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dang thats a huge improvement man, it makes me want to try and take that piece out or fit a diffrent type of glass or sumthing there..

People always look at me weird because I pull off the faceplate right before a picture snap!
I thought everyone was aware of this already?

Pretty much everyone is aware, it is like taking the lens cap off before you take a picture.

Other solutions
I've seen some replacement battery cases where the lens cover is just a hole (usually for larger battery replacement covers) and heard of people carefully drilling a hole.
If I can get a replacement back cover I'd go for drilling although it would put the lens itself at risk

just try to pse some screen guard on it
or cleanwith and antistatic clot means fibre
this will solve problem
infact i m doin the same
i have pasted a skin guard on it
workking perfect

[Q] Samsung Galaxy Note n7000 Photo Quality Lacks.

i have been using my galaxy note n7000 for 2 yrs now, the camera quality is very bad now. earlier it was amazing. now its bad. My 5 yr old Nokia x6 takes better pictures than my note. whats going on here? should i change the housing ? or try CM11?
pls help me guys..
Thanks )

I changed the Back Cover Mid Frame - this holds the plastic cover over the lens which was scratched resulting in "foggy" pictures. After this I had the old quality again.
Sadly you have to replace the complete frame.

ThaiDai said:
I changed the Back Cover Mid Frame - this holds the plastic cover over the lens which was scratched resulting in "foggy" pictures. After this I had the old quality again.
Sadly you have to replace the complete frame.
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True.. Same issue.. When the lens cover gets contaminated by dust or fingerprints, the pictures come blurry..

Thanks guys.!
Thanks guys.. i will try and change the back housing

trevorcpadrian said:
Thanks guys.. i will try and change the back housing
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Ha!. change only if you see scratches and weirdness on the cover.. else it wont magically improve quality.

trevorcpadrian said:
Thanks guys.. i will try and change the back housing
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You don't need to change the entire back housing, I bought just the camera lens cover (available on ebay for 2 or 3 pounds) and replaced just that.
You need to remove the back/middle housing and then you can fairly easily remove and replace the lens cover by bending three little pins and pushing out the old one. The replacement just pushes in and you bend the pins again to hold it in - just primitive bits of thick wire like you get on picture frames to hold the back of the frame on.
A very useful youtube video on dismantling the Note shows how to do the dissassembly, (the lens cover bit you need to work out yourself). Search for "Galaxy Note 1 Disassemble Repair & Assemble - Screen & Case Replacement"
Worth doing, now I don't have to worry too much about the lens cover getting scratched as I can replace it for a few pounds.

Replace Z1 camera lens cover

My Z1 camera lens cover seems to have a lot of scratches, his is very bad effect on the quality of the captured images, is anyone have this problem before, can this cover repaced.

nyongrand said:
My Z1 camera lens cover seems to have a lot of scratches, his is very bad effect on the quality of the captured images, is anyone have this problem before, can this cover repaced.
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I am not aware of anyone running into this issue before. If you set it on a rough surface or a surface with granules of sand, then that could definitely be the culprit. As far as replacing the lens goes, there is currently no way to get a hold of a replacement lens as far as I know.

If you mean the inside phone part then you'll have to replace the entire camera part. If you mean just the part that you can touch with your finger then you'll need to replace the back glass.

I'm having the same issue, there are some spots on top of the lenses on my phone that won't go away and *all* my photos are have the white color over exposed plus focusing is never sharp enough like other phones, I bought the phone the way it is now and I'm going to replace the back glass to see if it helps.

replaced camera lens cover, now mostly foggy pictures

Alright, I was an idiot and managed to crack my glass camera lens cover. I purchased this : http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RKFAZ5I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and did the replacement, but my pictures appear sort of "hazy" or "foggy" for lack of a better term. I can still get it to focus really well, but the pictures don't pop like they used to.
The only thing I did while replacing that could have caused problems was using compressed air while the old cover was off to ensure none of the shattered glass was left in the actual camera lens mechanism. I made sure to hold the can at an angle so that none of the liquid came out, but i did notice the lens mechanism moving around (almost like a hockey puck) as the air interacted with it. I assumed this sort of free floating lens design had something to do with the optical image stabilization, so it didn't seem like a big deal. I put the new cover on with clean hands and thought everything was fine until I started taking pictures again.
Has anyone replaced the camera lens cover and experienced a similar issue? I've ordered another one to take another shot at it, and I'm actually going to take some test pictures while the cover is removed just to see if I did actually damage the lens itself...
I have the jump protection, but would rather fix it myself than pay 175 for a refurb that I'm going to replace in 4 months anyways.

Why not replace the whole back camera?

I dont know how easy is to remove the lens cover but check if pictures taken without cover are foggy or not. If foggy then camera lens is dirty, if sharp - camera lens cover is a problem.
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My guess is it got moisture behind the lense, or the lense was dirty.
When they create that hardware it is sealed in 0% humidity. If it was even a rainy day when you installed the lense, it could have caused it to fog up.
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What I did was pull mine back and clean it with some alcohol and a q-tip

Is there a part number for that?

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10-K said:
Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=371237781680&alt=web
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Thanks, might give that a shot if it doesn't clear up with the next lens cover.

Did you peel the plastics on both sides of the lens cover? Also check if it's actually focusing. Maybe slap the phone and see if it refocuses. Afterall there are moving parts in there.

Is there a genuine saphire lens cover to buy anywhere? I to used the cheap replacement cover and my pictures are blurry and bad in bright light. My camera itself should be fine though.