Can the 5th-Generation Fire be resold after purchase? - Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can the 5th-Generation Fire (SV98LN) be resold after purchase, or are they locked as soon as you sign into your Amazon account?
If they're locked, can they be unlocked?
If they can't be unlocked, what restrictions would a new owner face?

stkpxl said:
Pretty sure you can just sign out of your accounts before you factory reset it and then do it. I don't know if there is some kind of protection that they've put in place since I got the last Fire tablet and put CM on it, but better safe than sorry.
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None - factory reset does the trick. Like all other Kindles including Fire derivatives. Device is remarkably easy to reprovision from an end user perspective. Suggests Amazon wanted it that way.

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Blacklisted

I've got a Nook that was blacklisted. Is there any way around it so the device can be used?
I don't really know what 'blacklisted' means, but I am sure you can still put CM7 on it, which is vastly superior to the original Nook firmware.
Try it I think you will like it.
Blacklisted; so it was reported stolen? Can you clarify your situation?
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And how did you get that?
Unfortunately, it was reported stolen, but wasn't actually. I don't think I'll be able to root it, as Manual Nooter indicates it requires a registered Nook.
Pope Viper said:
Unfortunately, it was reported stolen, but wasn't actually. I don't think I'll be able to root it, as Manual Nooter indicates it requires a registered Nook.
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Just put CM7 on it.....
Pope Viper said:
Unfortunately, it was reported stolen, but wasn't actually. I don't think I'll be able to root it, as Manual Nooter indicates it requires a registered Nook.
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How was it reported stolen? Can't the person who report it un-report it? If it really wasn't stolen there has to be a way to clear up its records....
jgaf said:
How was it reported stolen? Can't the person who report it un-report it? If it really wasn't stolen there has to be a way to clear up its records....
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Maybe it "fell off the back of a truck."
That is likely, as I bought it "second hand", and TBH, I'm not sure what the source was.
Anyway, while looking around I found what could be a couple of options.
http://nookdevs.com/NookColor/Rooting/Eclair
Before rooting, you need to complete BN's registration process, you will not be able to link your NC to your BN account to buy books after rooting. Do Not Proceed with Rooting unless the Nook is Registered, You will not be prompted to register with BN once you have completed the Root Process.
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This I'm not worried about, as I don't intend to buy anything thing from BN.
http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/nook/8034-nook-color-registration-3.html
The comments you see about unregistering the device before you root is in case you were NOT the original owner. I know it's not clear, but a registered device IS required before root if you are planning to stay on the stock B&N software, otherwise the device will not connect to your B&N account and you won't be able to purchase books from B&N and won't have access to already purchased books.
However, if you are going to root just so you can load a custom (non B&N rom - 1.0.0, 1.0.1, 1.1.0) then you can skip the registration because you're not going have the B&N software. Once on a custom ROM you can download the Nook app from the market and connect that way.
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Pope Viper said:
That is likely, as I bought it "second hand", and TBH, I'm not sure what the source was.
Anyway, while looking around I found what could be a couple of options.
http://nookdevs.com/NookColor/Rooting/Eclair
This I'm not worried about, as I don't intend to buy anything thing from BN.
http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/nook/8034-nook-color-registration-3.html
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http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Factory_Mode/Skip_Out_of_Box_Experience
Skip registration.
Perfect, thanks so much for posting that. I knew there was a similar system for the Touch, but wasn't sure on the NC
Mine has never been registered and I have CM7 on it.
Worked like a charm, thanks guys!
Pope Viper said:
Perfect, thanks so much for posting that. I knew there was a similar system for the Touch, but wasn't sure on the NC
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No prob. I lost my login info after a flash and didn't feel like dealing with trying to recover my account. Then I came across the nookdevs site. That place has some useful info/workarounds for the nook.
I'm not sure what the law is where you live regarding receiving stolen merchandise, but you might want to check into it. Best case if it is stolen and if the police trace it to you and you can show a receipt or tell them who you bought it from, you loose the Nook (Regardless of what you paid, unless you bought it from a dealer, (B&N),it belongs to the person it was stolen from or the insurance company) , worst they arrest you and make you prove where you got it in which case you will probably rackup more than $250 in legal fees.
Each network device has a unique MAC address, and the Nooks may have a serial number burried in the firmware. I wouldn't want to use something that might be stolen and sending a unique identifier out on the internet. It's certainly not worth saving $250 in my opinion.
Chances are it isn't worth enough to be a problem unless they are looking at you for something else, or someone sends them your way. Unfortunately, you just never know. It's always worth paying more to know for sure somethings not stolen.
Now that I think of it, if the Wi-Fi is on, I believe that MAC address is visible anywhere within range of the nook. I would stay from Google Street View cars if I were you, last I heard thery were recording all that information that was within range of their cars. Kind of makes you think......
I appreciate it, I followed up with the guy I bought it from, and apparently he tried to root, hosed it, and tried to get it replaced, obviously he was being dishonest about it.
I called BN, and got the real story, and while they apologized for the "deceptive purchase" I made, I got the thing for 150.00.
I have successfully rooted it, and have CM7 installed.
I upgrade my Rom Manager to the premium product, and it's prompting me for the Phone type. What would I select for the Nook?
Pope Viper said:
I appreciate it, I followed up with the guy I bought it from, and apparently he tried to root, hosed it, and tried to get it replaced, obviously he was being dishonest about it.
I called BN, and got the real story, and while they apologized for the "deceptive purchase" I made, I got the thing for 150.00.
I have successfully rooted it, and have CM7 installed.
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You went through a lot of trouble for a used Nook Color. You could have bought a refurbished one from B&N directly for $149 with a 1-year warranty and save yourself all the hassle.
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/certified-pre-owned-nookcolor/379002680/
Eh, it's a spare for my first one, so I'm not worried about it. Learning experience.

Kindle Fire HD die after install TWRP

Hello guys, i need a lot of yours help!
I rooted my kindle fire HD and trying install TWRP to change rom with this tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398603 and my kindle died after reboot i doing the hard reset and made a factory cable to try recovery and didnt work.
I need help to try another solution because i living in Brazil and here dont selling this device. i diont have option to contact amazon to repare or something like that.
Thanks
You're screwed. Like every other brick owner here.. You flashed an unsigned boot loader to a secured partition.
That recovery belongs to the first generation kindle fire.
Your only option is to return the device to Amazon
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We should really pin a warning at the bootloader flashing stuff... too many bricks.
flopower1996 said:
We should really pin a warning at the bootloader flashing stuff... too many bricks.
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Agreed, and I know it sounds harsh, but people need to read and make sure they are looking at the forum for their device. Too many people are using tools for other types of Kindle.
Best option is to contact Amazon to see what they can do. They ate used to people taking their Kindles abroad, and I think they have a worldwide warranty?
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really guy, so i screw because i believe that amazon dont have garantty in brazil because this device dont selling Kindle Fire Hd in brazil. selling only kindle reader.
I try talk to amazon to verify what i can do.
Thanks for help and are u sure about i dont have other option to restore mu device?
Thanks
tferreri said:
really guy, so i screw because i believe that amazon dont have garantty in brazil because this device dont selling Kindle Fire Hd in brazil. selling only kindle reader.
I try talk to amazon to verify what i can do.
Thanks for help and are u sure about i dont have other option to restore mu device?
Thanks
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None.
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There is no way... the device's hardware has security mechanism to prevent executing from an unisgned bootloader.
Yeah, you got an expensive paper weight now, welcome to the club. I was thinking about getting a kindle fire 2 with a cracked screen and switching it.
Hey guys, I rooted my kindle fire HD 8.9 inch and I attempted to get TWRP (or however you spell it) on there and it told me there would be a high risk of failure but I decided to take the risk and I bricked my Kindle because it would only stay on the darn boot up logo without going any further. I read these forums and people who bricked their device were immediately told to return their product or to use it as a paper weight and I was upset there wasn't anything I could do about it. However, I got it to fix because when I plugged in (I would say a standard) usb cable connected to my kindle into my computer, it recognized the device and I immediately put it into fastboot and recovered it. It ended up coming back to life. Now I'm not saying it's suddenly possible for everyone and I maybe I didn't brick it after all, but if I did and I managed to get it working again then I think people should keep trying to fix their device (nothing to drastic) and see what happens as time progresses. In other words, don't give up so easily...
Everenferno said:
Hey guys, I rooted my kindle fire HD 8.9 inch and I attempted to get TWRP (or however you spell it) on there and it told me there would be a high risk of failure but I decided to take the risk and I bricked my Kindle because it would only stay on the darn boot up logo without going any further. I read these forums and people who bricked their device were immediately told to return their product or to use it as a paper weight and I was upset there wasn't anything I could do about it. However, I got it to fix because when I plugged in (I would say a standard) usb cable connected to my kindle into my computer, it recognized the device and I immediately put it into fastboot and recovered it. It ended up coming back to life. Now I'm not saying it's suddenly possible for everyone and I maybe I didn't brick it after all, but if I did and I managed to get it working again then I think people should keep trying to fix their device (nothing to drastic) and see what happens as time progresses. In other words, don't give up so easily...
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The people who end up with a device that doesn't power on, doesn't charge and isn't recognised by the PC or doesn't respond to a fastboot cable have no recovery options.
Maybe in 6 months someone will find a way, but it is highly unlikely.
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Hardware solder
chronicfathead said:
The people who end up with a device that doesn't power on, doesn't charge and isn't recognised by the PC or doesn't respond to a fastboot cable have no recovery options.
Maybe in 6 months someone will find a way, but it is highly unlikely.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire2 using Tapatalk HD
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I read somewhere it could be possible to unblock hard brick KFHD2 by soldering a flash drive to the motherboard. Is this possible on the KFHD7?
Theoretically yes, but we haven't mapped out the pins yet because it involves most likely sacrificing a kindle fire because we have to actually pull the emmc off the motherboard to figure out which pins go where. Also it uses a usb sdcard reader not a flash drive so to speak. Kurohyou is working on it though.
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Anything on this yet? I have a new brick myself. I liked the idea of buying a cracked screen one... Lol

this device was reset ( Google Account )

Hello, I have a big problem with my note 5 I have always this message : this device was reset. To continue, sign in with a Google Account that was previously synced on this device
I flashed it with Odin but I have the same problem !!
That is not a problem. Simply sign in using the Google account that you used before you reset the phone.
CodeNameRedNeck said:
That is not a problem. Simply sign in using the Google account that you used before you reset the phone.
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That's not working, Even when I flashed new Rom
Zakwa said:
That's not working, Even when I flashed new Rom
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Maybe reactivation lock was on when it was reset.Did you buy second hand?
Changed my mind.
Thanks, Toskabab!
Zakwa said:
Hello, I have a big problem with my note 5 I have always this message : this device was reset. To continue, sign in with a Google Account that was previously synced on this device
I flashed it with Odin but I have the same problem !!
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This is a Google security feature designed to protect against theft and personal data loss. If you have changed your Google password and then done a factory reset, you must wait 72 hours before you can log back into your device with your new password. If you have purchased the device in this condition, you must return it to the seller and have them unlock the device.
Since the onset of Android 5.1 and up, you must remove your Google account first, prior to a factory reset if you are planning to sell your device. Otherwise, when the new owner starts up the device they will see the same message you are. If you have stolen this device, this prevents you from getting their information and also being able to use the device.
There may be ways around this, but that falls into a gray area of what is allowed on XDA and what isn't. Please be mindful going forward with this discussion.
Thank you.
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jtOttawa said:
Why would you help someone bypass a security feature to prevent the use of a stolen phone? If he had the proper Google account credentials, he wouldn't need to bypass this feature.
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I understand where you're coming from. And I in no way condone theft of any kind. But I do also realize that I am unaware of the situation at hand and tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. What if someone sold it to him in that condition? What if he genuinely did screw something up and get locked out of his Google account? There could be any number of situations and yes, theft can be one of them. I just don't like to assume the worst. But maybe I'm just naive.
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toskabab said:
I understand where you're coming from. And I in no way condone theft of any kind. But I do also realize that I am unaware of the situation at hand and tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. What if someone sold it to him in that condition? What if he genuinely did screw something up and get locked out of his Google account? There could be any number of situations and yes, theft can be one of them. I just don't like to assume the worst. But maybe I'm just naive.
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Fair enough, but my view is that if the device was acquired legally, it would be a simple matter to go back to the seller to rectify the situation. We have had a number of people on here recently trying to find ways past locked/blocked phones etc., when the simplest (and most logical) solution if the phone was acquired legally would be to go back to the seller for help, and not seek a way past such security measures here - as such, and to avoid the risk of potentially aiding and abetting phone theft, I prefer to see such discussions shut down.
Theres actually a work around thats very simple and requires a otg cable
jtOttawa said:
Fair enough, but my view is that if the device was acquired legally, it would be a simple matter to go back to the seller to rectify the situation. We have had a number of people on here recently trying to find ways past locked/blocked phones etc., when the simplest (and most logical) solution if the phone was acquired legally would be to go back to the seller for help, and not seek a way past such security measures here - as such, and to avoid the risk of potentially aiding and abetting phone theft, I prefer to see such discussions shut down.
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While I understand your point, there are many instances where individuals have purchased devices legal (e.g., via eBay or Swappa) and the seller is either unwilling or unable or not knowledgeable enough to help. Many of these instances have been reported here on XDA. Hence there are indeed valid reason for threads like this to exist. That said, any indications or suggestions of fraud will not be tolerated.

Best Fire to buy

Looking at getting a cheap tablet just for home automation control.
The Fire HD 8 looks like a good option but would like to get it to a clean Android experience since I wont be using any of the Amazon stuff ... thoughts?
You will need one that is rootable then.
See other threads for which that applies.
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SirDigitalKnight said:
Looking at getting a cheap tablet just for home automation control.
The Fire HD 8 looks like a good option but would like to get it to a clean Android experience since I wont be using any of the Amazon stuff ... thoughts?
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Probably best to stay away from current gen Fire devices. Of those being sold today only the HD 10 is rootable. No custom ROMs are available for that model as of this writing. You'd probably do better with an inexpensive phone that can be bootloader unlocked. No need to active it. Moto E4 is an excellent example. Some variants can be had for ~$40 USD. You'd need to do some homework as some carrier branded models can not be rooted and/or unlocked.
Another option is an older gen Fire. Most 2nd gen devices can be unlocked and rooted. Early 5th gen 7" Fires can be rooted provided FireOS was never advanced past 5.3.2. Finally, all 3rd gen HDX models can be unlocked/rooted but do not make the best platform for automation/connectivity.
Good luck.
"Early 5th gen 7" Fires can be rooted provided FireOS was never advanced past 5.3.2"
This include Fire Kindle? or are they the same thing?
SirDigitalKnight said:
"Early 5th gen 7" Fires can be rooted provided FireOS was never advanced past 5.3.2"
This include Fire Kindle? or are they the same thing?
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"Fire Kindle" is too generic to provide a meaningful response. Unless referring to a 1st gen Fire which sometimes went under that name. Definitely do not want one of those.
Davey126 said:
"Fire Kindle" is too generic to provide a meaningful response. Unless referring to a 1st gen Fire which sometimes went under that name. Definitely do not want one of those.
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I do not think I can post to the one for sale on CL
description only says: "5th generation, 8GB Amazon Fire Kindle w/camera"
SirDigitalKnight said:
I do not think I can post to the one for sale on CL
description only says: "5th generation, 8GB Amazon Fire Kindle w/camera"
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So what's the question? Reread the thread you started along with responses. If that's not clear you should probably stay away from custom solutions and just go with what Amazon offers to the general public.
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Davey126 said:
So what's the question? Reread the thread you started along with responses. If that's not clear you should probably stay away from custom solutions and just go with what Amazon offers to the general public.
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I am looking to buy one that I can load Gapps on so that I can install URC Total Control 2.0 and Lutron Home+ and Sonos.
Just want to make sure that one that I purchase I will be able to follow this : https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/amazon-fire-5th-gen-supertool-root-t3272695
SirDigitalKnight said:
I am looking to buy one that I can load Gapps on so that I can install URC Total Control 2.0 and Lutron Home+ and Sonos.
Just want to make sure that one that I purchase I will be able to follow this : https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/amazon-fire-5th-gen-supertool-root-t3272695
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You can load GApps on virtually any modern Fire - rooted or not. If that's the sole requirement suggest going with a reconditioned HD 8 from Amazon Warehouse.
https://www.amazon.com/Tablets-Amaz...TF8&page=1&rh=n:1232597011,p_6:A2L77EE7U53NWQ

Not turning on after Factory Reset (Do we need to press F?)

So after doing a factory reset it now refuses to even turn on. I factory reset last night (But I was on 5.3.2.1 so I was able to disable ota.) This morning it was off when it shouldn't have been. Plugged it in and the low battery indicator came up. Weird because there was 50% last night. (I also noticed it was getting much hotter than it should be.) Now it won't even show that if I plug it in. I could hold the power button for 7 minutes straight. Nothing, zilch, nada.
Jake1702_ said:
So after doing a factory reset it now refuses to even turn on. I factory reset last night (But I was on 5.3.2.1 so I was able to disable ota.) This morning it was off when it shouldn't have been. Plugged it in and the low battery indicator came up. Weird because there was 50% last night. (I also noticed it was getting much hotter than it should be.) Now it won't even show that if I plug it in. I could hold the power button for 7 minutes straight. Nothing, zilch, nada.
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How did you disable OTA updates on 5.3.2.1 given that build is not rootable? As for the non-responsive device, symptoms suggest a hardware failure or attempt to down level to an invalid FireOS build.
Davey126 said:
How did you disable OTA updates on 5.3.2.1 given that build is not rootable? As for the non-responsive device, symptoms suggest a hardware failure or attempt to down level to an invalid FireOS build.
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Remember that those under 5.4.4.0 or something I can't really remember can be "debloated" and it works to disable OTA updates. I had mine on 5.3.2.1 for months thanks to that. I forgot to mention. It did work today, but I left it charging and when I came back it wouldn't turn on. I think it's something to do with hardware, what a coincidence it happened right after I factory reset.
Well, I guess I might have to get a new device.
Jake1702_ said:
Remember that those under 5.4.4.0 or something I can't really remember can be "debloated" and it works to disable OTA updates. I had mine on 5.3.2.1 for months thanks to that. I forgot to mention. It did work today, but I left it charging and when I came back it wouldn't turn on. I think it's something to do with hardware, what a coincidence it happened right after I factory reset.
Well, I guess I might have to get a new device.
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Thanks - forgot about the alternative OTA block which isn't 100% reliable but works for most. It's possible some previous debloating invalided the factory reset function. Pure speculation, but not out of the realm of possibility given the irresponsible actions taken by some the the debloat scripts. Lots of cow boys/girls whipping these things up.
Davey126 said:
Thanks - forgot about the alternative OTA block which isn't 100% reliable but works for most. It's possible some previous debloating invalided the factory reset function. Pure speculation, but not out of the realm of possibility given the irresponsible actions taken by some the the debloat scripts. Lots of cow boys/girls whipping these things up.
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To be honest, because of my issue with the battery and the overheating issue, I think it's a hardware problem and it's just a coincidence that I reset it the night before. Lucky I did - resetting means I backed up stuff I needed. My screen was badly cracked anyway. It might be best to get a new tablet. Are there any non-Amazon ones that are of a cheap price and at least similar specs to this one? If I'm getting a new one I want one I can root and possibly install a custom ROM on. Being locked down isn't my style,
Jake1702_ said:
To be honest, because of my issue with the battery and the overheating issue, I think it's a hardware problem and it's just a coincidence that I reset it the night before. Lucky I did - resetting means I backed up stuff I needed. My screen was badly cracked anyway. It might be best to get a new tablet. Are there any non-Amazon ones that are of a cheap price and at least similar specs to this one? If I'm getting a new one I want one I can root and possibly install a custom ROM on. Being locked down isn't my style,
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If you want root at a comparable price point look into a 3rd (not 4th) generation HDX 7 or 8.9. These devices will run circles around any Fire 7 or HD 8 and will give a HD 10 a run for the money. Fully rootable & bootloader unlockable with a nice selection of custom ROMs.
Davey126 said:
If you want root at a comparable price point look into a 3rd (not 4th) generation HDX 7 or 8.9. These devices will run circles around any Fire 7 or HD 8 and will give a HD 10 a run for the money. Fully rootable & bootloader unlockable with a nice selection of custom ROMs.
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I don't think any device that can't have expandable storage is very practical though.
Jake1702_ said:
I don't think any device that can't have expandable storage is very practical though.
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Depends on use case. 16GB HDX (11GB available) with a suite of powerful apps is my daily driver. Not even using 50% of available space.
Davey126 said:
Depends on use case. 16GB HDX (11GB available) with a suite of powerful apps is my daily driver. Not even using 50% of available space.
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I barely used mine since the screen got cracked and I completely filled internal storage and only had 2GB out of my 16GB card remaining. So for my case, that won't be a suitable option.
Jake1702_ said:
I barely used mine since the screen got cracked and I completely filled internal storage and only had 2GB out of my 16GB card remaining. So for my case, that won't be a suitable option.
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Not trying to change your mind but in my line of business what, why and where (among other curiosities) are paramount. Amazing what gets retained locally. I also understand the virtual appeal of a bottomless shoebox. Good luck in your search.
Davey126 said:
Not trying to change your mind but in my line of business what, why and where (among other curiosities) are paramount. Amazing what gets retained locally. I also understand the virtual appeal of a bottomless shoebox. Good luck in your search.
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So due to financial issues, my brother might be buying me a new Fire. I'm 99.9% sure it's going to be a 7th gen (As that's most likely). What is the oldest firmware available for it? From what I've seen it seems to be 5.4.0.0? That version can be debloated right?
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So due to financial issues, my brother might be buying me a new Fire. I'm 99.9% sure it's going to be a 7th gen (As that's most likely). What is the oldest firmware available for it? From what I've seen it seems to be 5.4.0.0? That version can be debloated right?
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Correct on both.
Davey126 said:
Correct on both.
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We're also looking at getting a 5th gen that has CM installed on it from Ebay. Looks like a couple other people are watching it also though, and I can't find any others that are rooted/have a custom ROM flashed.

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