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They're pretty reliable I guess, they just can't be translated to real life performance
http://briefmobile.com/cyanogen-demonstrates-quadrants-flaws
Not so, with GB and lag fix kernel and modified prop I had over 2300, but rest of the UX was bad even games were jumpy, now i have less than 1000 with Quadrant and butter smooth UX (user experrience) and better and more stable framerate in games than ever
Let's say on PC you have great score with PC Mark and 3D Mark but you can't play 3D Tetris...
Quadrant Advanced is better in terms that it gives you separate score chart for different parts of test.
Its a benchmark that does not reflect the usability or response of the SGS .
Highest score on Eclair then with each upgrade score gets lower and phone gets faster more responsive and less laggy .
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Quadrant results are useful if the ONLY thing you want to run on your phone is quadrant, because that's what it tests. It's similar to how on PC's, some games prefer different video cards. It also comes down to space/speed of algorithms..
The best thing to do, is to uninstall Quadrant, and test the ROM's yourself
I'm trying to understand how a G2 that uses the same Snapdragon 800 and Adreno 330 could be faster than Nexus5.
Is seems that G2 is faster than N5.
Ridiculusly there are many test where Galaxy S4 beats N5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3uZdVsND1E&feature=youtube_gdata_player
GS4 runs on a Snapdragon 600, how can be faster than N5?
Not sure why you are comparing benchmarks on phones http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/
The only thing I care is real world performance and thermal throttling.
How is it running Real Racing 3 and other super-demanding games?
& this is why benchmarks are pure BS.
Here is a more realistic comparison in speed between the Galaxy S4 & the N5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-F6bJ218Bc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Not sure why you are comparing benchmarks on phones http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/
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very funny, I lost that article.
Android manufacturers are known to optimize for specific benchmarks, Anandtech did an article on this. I will only trust real world performance and analysis by reputable tech sites like AT.
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I'm trying to understand how a G2 that uses the same Snapdragon 800 and Adreno 330 could be faster than Nexus5.
Is seems that G2 is faster than N5.
Ridiculusly there are many test where Galaxy S4 beats N5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3uZdVsND1E&feature=youtube_gdata_player
GS4 runs on a Snapdragon 600, how can be faster than N5?
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Google has always throttled their devices. So when you push it to the extremes in benchmarks for 5 min straight it throttles back the CPU therefore giving a lower score. Like said real world performance is what matters.
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Even a 'cheating' S600 phones shouldnt be near an S800 phone. The N5 does seem to have very aggressive throttling indeed, indeed my HTC One beats my N5 in just about all benchmarks. Something im sure the devs will fix soon enough.
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Even a 'cheating' S600 phones shouldnt be near an S800 phone. The N5 does seem to have very aggressive throttling indeed, indeed my HTC One beats my N5 in just about all benchmarks. Something im sure the devs will fix soon enough.
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It doesn't have any throttling at all.
They just don't play the benchmark game like OEMs do.
The N5 is noticeably faster than an S4 in all tasks yet the S4 scores higher on Antutu for example.
benchmark apps are pure BS.
Which is better - having the fastest smoothest phone available or being slower at everything yet scoring higher on a benchmark app?
People need to get their priorities right.
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It doesn't have any throttling at all.
They just don't play the benchmark game like OEMs do.
The N5 is noticeably faster than an S4 in all tasks yet the S4 scores higher on Antutu for example.
benchmark apps are pure BS.
Which is better - having the fastest smoothest phone available or being slower at everything yet scoring higher on a benchmark app?
People need to get their priorities right.
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ALL phones have thermal throttling, thats not up for debate, what is up for debate is how aggressively they set the limits.
What many here fail to realise is that the 'cheating' that goes on is just thermal management tricks, nothing more than that. Samsung and the others have programs that detect benchmarks launching, and then set the thermal management to very light limits. In the case of the S4 they clock the GPU to the maximum rated limit and dont throttle it down (533MHz), whereas its normally limited to 480 for thermal management reasons. 533 is not an overclock, 480 is an underclock.
An N5 should be faster than an S4 even if the S4 is at 533, so either Google is heavily throttling the N5, or its got some serious optimisation work to do.
Benchmarks mean fcuk all and too be honest if that's all the op cares about them the nexus ain't for him.
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ALL phones have thermal throttling, thats not up for debate, what is up for debate is how aggressively they set the limits.
What many here fail to realise is that the 'cheating' that goes on is just thermal management tricks, nothing more than that. Samsung and the others have programs that detect benchmarks launching, and then set the thermal management to very light limits. In the case of the S4 they clock the GPU to the maximum rated limit and dont throttle it down (533MHz), whereas its normally limited to 480 for thermal management reasons. 533 is not an overclock, 480 is an underclock.
An N5 should be faster than an S4 even if the S4 is at 533, so either Google is heavily throttling the N5, or its got some serious optimisation work to do.
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Again - look at the video link I posted above against the S4.
Which is better - faster phone throughout or a nice pretty score in a free benchmark app?
When will people learn - these apps are absolute junk and in No Way do they reflect the speed of the device or the power of the internals inside.
It seriously sounds like you'd accept a slower less powerful phone as long as it scored higher on the pretty charts in these apps.
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Anandtech pointed out that OEMs like Samsung boost CPU & GPU clocks during benchmarks, that's why you get higher numbers.
For Gods sake, it's the same SoC.
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I'm trying to understand how a G2 that uses the same Snapdragon 800 and Adreno 330 could be faster than Nexus5.
Is seems that G2 is faster than N5.
Ridiculusly there are many test where Galaxy S4 beats N5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3uZdVsND1E&feature=youtube_gdata_player
GS4 runs on a Snapdragon 600, how can be faster than N5?
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Nexus 5 is absolutely faster than Galaxy S4 in real life usage, no doubt about it. When it comes to G2 its more even between the two.
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Again - look at the video link I posted above against the S4.
Which is better - faster phone throughout or a nice pretty score in a free benchmark app?
When will people learn - these apps are absolute junk and in No Way do they reflect the speed of the device or the power of the internals inside.
It seriously sounds like you'd accept a slower less powerful phone as long as it scored higher on the pretty charts in these apps.
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Thats not what I said. Read again..
SOME benchmarks are purely about number crunching and the fact is the S800 should wipe the floor with the S600, if its not, something is going on.
While it doesnt matter if the device is smooth in real world usage it still points to the fact that the software needs a lot of optimisation to be done yet.
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Thats not what I said. Read again..
SOME benchmarks are purely about number crunching and the fact is the S800 should wipe the floor with the S600, if its not, something is going on.
While it doesnt matter if the device is smooth in real world usage it still points to the fact that the software needs a lot of optimisation to be done yet.
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Its not just about smoothness.
Go look at some comparisons of the N5 vs Galaxy S4.
N5 is faster at booting, browsing speed, smoothness, speed of loading of apps, gaming frame rates & loading speeds - basically EVERYTHING!
so you either believe the benchmark app or the actual speeds of the devices.
Simply put - you'd prefer a slower phone so long as it scores higher in these apps.
If you want one of these s600 phones like the S4 & ONE - go & get one! - but don't expect anything to be faster than the N5 just because these free benchmarking apps tell you so.
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You should change the title. " Galaxy S4 and G2 are faster than G2 "
Lol.
This is the Nexus 4 performance discussion all over again.
Other Manufacturers use specific Dalvic patches that grearly improve performance in benchmarks.
If you really want to compare performance of the SoC use something like Geekbench that runs native
code and not ontop of the Dalvic Virtual Maschine.
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You should change the title. " Galaxy S4 and G2 are faster than G2 "
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It should be changed to "Galaxy S4 and G2 perform better then the N5 in useless Benchmarks that don't reflect real world performance"
The only thing obvious from the video comparing the N5 to the G2 is the on screen black levels.
Blacks seem blacker on the G2 in menus and in game, the N5's blacks are grayer.
Google doesn't seem to be interested in calibrating their Nexus line screens
Why does my golden retriever outperform my cat in the fishing dead ducks out of the pond test?
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Hello everyone
After swapping my note 3 with note 4, I was amazed with the snappiness of the Note 4 during general tasks and battery life. However, things aren't that smooth while gaming.. it seems as if after 10 mins of gameplay, graphics stutter and the game starts to lag, even in less graphic intensive games.. is it the same with everyone? What about the Exynos variants? Overall, I would rank the note 4 a solid 8.5/10, deducting 1.5 due to poor graphical performance..
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Sounds like the soc clocking down.
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my note 4 is awsome and i dont feel any lag like you do mate
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Hello everyone
After swapping my note 3 with note 4, I was amazed with the snappiness of the Note 4 during general tasks and battery life. However, things aren't that smooth while gaming.. it seems as if after 10 mins of gameplay, graphics stutter and the game starts to lag, even in less graphic intensive games.. is it the same with everyone? What about the Exynos variants? Overall, I would rank the note 4 a solid 8.5/10, deducting 1.5 due to poor graphical performance..
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hi,
Next time you are gaming etc. etc and experience symptoms( as described by you above) check your battery temperature. It could be some sort of "throttling" I have seen quite a few post in forum referring to similar. Read up about Samsung DVFS throttling" when devices gets warm. resulting in games stuttering, lagging etc. etc
good luck
The Exynos performs better while gaming.
I play:
Asphalt Overdrive
Beach Buggy Racing and Blitz
As well as Pinball Pro
Haven't noticed any slowdown or issue with graphics, then again I play for 30mins at most, most times I do a quick 10-15min session and I'm bored.
I played The Room 2 for like 1h+ and while in game pulling down the notification bar lagged as hell...my battery temperature was around 38 while gaming.I have the snapdragon model.
Rayman Fiesta Run makes my Exynos hot and noticable slow down performance. Funny that Nexus 7 2012 runs this game as much as I want without any performance dropdown.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubisoft.rayman.fiestarun
Didn't noticed the same reaction on Riptide GP 2 though.
Snapdragon here, nothing, everything is smooth and fast, i already have 14 hours of gameplay time with Galaxy on FIRE2 HD which is pretty intense, also try Stranger, its the most intense graphical game, and everything on highest the note 4 has lower fps, even then after longer playing everything is okey.
I can second this. Rayman Fiesta starts to lag after a while...very disappointing. SnapDragon model here.
i have exynos and every thing is smooth
I have Canadian SM-N910W8 with SD805 it runs games fast even with power savings on.
It's not hard to understand, snapdragon 800+1080p > snapdragon 805+2k for gaming performance (and almost everything).
I have Note 3 snap800 and Note 4 snap 805... and I can honestly say that note 3 is way better for gaming.
Check some gaming YouTube video, this also happens between Nexus 6 and 5.
That's quite sad because Samsung could have made the Best device ever if It choosed a laser autofocus instead of the UV/HRsensor, and sticked with 1080p+ snap 805 combo... really It's like if our SOC have to push TWO 1080p phones (no kidding... 2k have double pixels).
PPL think that the improved visual quality is given by the improved resolution... that's 100% wrong.... The details are the same (and I see amazingly well at very close distances), the true benefits are given by the damn good color accuracy.
BTW note 3 with leaked Lollipop is waaaaay faster in everything than Note4...
If lollipop doesn't make note 4 way faster I'm going to sell this piece of marketing victim and stick with the Note 3.
i using note 3 snap with lollipop and note 4 H with exynos
note gaming performance very very better !
i dont know what note 4 snap on gaming and fps on heavy game !
but exynos version note 4 is better on gaming and power on 2k resolution
im happy for this buying !
note 3 just snap
note 4 just exynos
sometimes its not about the phone, but lazy developers..
as we know rayman is developed by ubisoft and everyone in gaming world knows how terrible that company is
Gamebench v1.3 analysis of Asphalt 8 game play - Device: Note 4 Exynos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58709458&postcount=2020
To the people talking about Rayman Fiesta, on my Exynos Note 4 it goes into slow motion if under 60fps, and I'm not talking about skipping frames, I'm talking about slow motion, when it gets close to 40 fps the game is very sloooow. I had to run it in 720p to keep it at 60fps all the time so it wouldn't slow down.
What I mean by this is, at least for me, the game runs very well even on 1440p, always above 30fps but goes into slow motion instead of skipping frames because the devs are stupid. This also happens to me with Sky Force.
So there are no known permanent solution for the lag and stuttering SD805 aka Note4? Or even a achievement in performance without rooting and devoting our life to adjust and testing?
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To the people talking about Rayman Fiesta, on my Exynos Note 4 it goes into slow motion if under 60fps, and I'm not talking about skipping frames, I'm talking about slow motion, when it gets close to 40 fps the game is very sloooow. I had to run it in 720p to keep it at 60fps all the time so it wouldn't slow down.
What I mean by this is, at least for me, the game runs very well even on 1440p, always above 30fps but goes into slow motion instead of skipping frames because the devs are stupid. This also happens to me with Sky Force.
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I've never had sky force slow down...ever. snapdragon 805 running FireKat rom.
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So there are no known permanent solution for the lag and stuttering SD805 aka Note4? Or even a achievement in performance without rooting and devoting our life to adjust and testing?
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Get Samsung's gaming app, Game Tuner, no root required, it will allow you to adjust the resolution, FPS and Brightness of all your games.
My N910F has been running Need For Speed No Limits, Asphalt 8 and GT Racing 2 without a hiccup.
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I feel my Z3 Compact performance is no where near the performance at Snapdragon 801 is supposed to give. This phone to date is supposed to be one of the fastest Graphic performers and should be able to play games like Ashphalt 8, NOVA 3, Modern Combat and those mainstream graphical games at 60FPS no problem as i've seen in other phones with Snapdragon 801 like the S5, One PlusOne, HTC One M8 etc but my phone seems to play these games like bout 30-40FPS and when a menu transition happens it's really choppy.
Even though this phone is also 720P and with benchmarks on websites like PhoneArena, GSMArena they have scores on geekbench 3 bout 3K while my one is 2.2K constantly, GFX 2.7 (T-Rex Onscreen) bout 40FPS while my one is like 25FPS. Performance is definitely noticeably slow.
I notice that on CPU-Z app that my GPU frequency never exceeds 330MHz, i wonder if you guys are like this too and also my Governer thing is on Interative if that's normal?
I have conducted these results without Stamina mode or performance restriction on. Nor is it rooted or anything.
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I feel my Z3 Compact performance is no where near the performance at Snapdragon 801 is supposed to give. This phone to date is supposed to be one of the fastest Graphic performers and should be able to play games like Ashphalt 8, NOVA 3, Modern Combat and those mainstream graphical games at 60FPS no problem as i've seen in other phones with Snapdragon 801 like the S5, One PlusOne, HTC One M8 etc but my phone seems to play these games like bout 30-40FPS and when a menu transition happens it's really choppy.
Even though this phone is also 720P and with benchmarks on websites like PhoneArena, GSMArena they have scores on geekbench 3 bout 3K while my one is 2.2K constantly, GFX 2.7 (T-Rex Onscreen) bout 40FPS while my one is like 25FPS. Performance is definitely noticeably slow.
I notice that on CPU-Z app that my GPU frequency never exceeds 330MHz, i wonder if you guys are like this too and also my Governer thing is on Interative if that's normal?
I have conducted these results without Stamina mode or performance restriction on. Nor is it rooted or anything.
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Disable Stamina and restart. Worked for me
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I have same problem, but not in the benchmarks, my gpu stocks at 330 Mhz while playing games. Actually maximum frequency shown in cpuz is 330! This is weird.
Hello
I have upgraded my Tab S7 to Tab S8. And I have expected new device be much faster and smoother, but what I found that games are really lagging! It was perfectly smooth on S7 but not on S8. Game mode does not help much. I do not play a log of games on this tablet as I used it mostly for developement, but I do play Harry Potter Puzzle and Spells and this game lags pretty bad on S8.
What can be done to fix it or should I wait for Samsung to release update? I do know about Samsung's throttling on S8 devices but I never expect it to be that bad.
And in addition (don't want to open another thread) it seems that S8 has more aggressive memory settings because it unloads apps from memory over time. Which never happened on S7. S8 has more memory and I think it should keep more opened apps, not reloading them. And yes, settings in developer section (do not keep activities) is not enabled
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And in addition (don't want to open another thread) it seems that S8 has more aggressive memory settings because it unloads apps from memory over time. Which never happened on S7. S8 has more memory and I think it should keep more opened apps, not reloading them. And yes, settings in developer section (do not keep activities) is not enabled
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This has to do to android 12, s7 was only on android 11, but also is on 12 now. So then it automatically puts apps into deep sleep. You can remove that under battery settings area and remove apps from deep sleep mode.
About lagging it might be new game mode from samsung since apparently samsung did on purpose limit hardware but added a settings into app that let's you gain more performance in games. Should be in game engine or w.e name is and then settings and then Labs and enable experimental feature there that should boost performance and stop limit the hardware for game.
When I replaces S7 it was already on Android 12 but I never observed such behavior. Anyway, I have put game into never sleep list. As about lags, unfortunately I found no options for that
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Hello
I have upgraded my Tab S7 to Tab S8. And I have expected new device be much faster and smoother, but what I found that games are really lagging! It was perfectly smooth on S7 but not on S8. Game mode does not help much. I do not play a log of games on this tablet as I used it mostly for developement, but I do play Harry Potter Puzzle and Spells and this game lags pretty bad on S8.
What can be done to fix it or should I wait for Samsung to release update? I do know about Samsung's throttling on S8 devices but I never expect it to be that bad.
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I was noticing this particular with emulation since I don't play many native android games. When playing Sonic Colors at native res on my Tab S7+, it would almost never go below 30fps in level, and almost never below 60fps in the hub and menus. However, when I tried doing the same on the S8+, I had a bunch of stuttering and performance issues no matter what version of dolphin I used. There was a workaround to this (at least for me). These issues only happened when I restored my data to my new S8+ with Smart Switch, but when I just put all my data and stuff on there manually, the issues seemingly stopped happening. The only game I throttle in is Fortnite, which didn't have the 90fps option even though the S7+ did. The game still didn't feel much different before and after the throttle, still pretty consistent framerates overall.
Edit: Just fixing typos.
SavXL said:
I was noticing this particular with emulation since I don't play many native android games. When playing Sonic Colors at native res on my Tab S7+, it would almost never go below 30fps in level, and almost never below 60fps in the hub and menus. However, when I tried doing the same on the S8+, and I had a bunch of stuttering and performance issues no matter what version of dolphin I used. There was a workaround to this (at least for me). These issues only happened when I restored my data to my new S8+ with Smart Switch, but when I just put all my data and stuff on there manually, the issues seemingly stopped happening. The only game I throttle in is Fortnite, which didn't have the 90fps option even though the S7+ did. The game still didn't feel much different before and after the throttle, still pretty consistent framerates overall.
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Did you used cloud backup or restored through cable or it's the same thing? I have similar problem, but with benchmark results. My device can't get even average model score in 3DMark (about 2 to 8%). Geekbench scores are worse than snapdragon 865 devices. I don't know what's going on. I already tried to reflash stock rom with odin, but that didn't help. Hopefully not using cloud backup will help.
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Did you used cloud backup or restored through cable or it's the same thing? I have similar problem, but with benchmark results. My device can't get even average model score in 3DMark (about 2 to 8%). Geekbench scores are worse than snapdragon 865 devices. I don't know what's going on. I already tried to reflash stock rom with odin, but that didn't help. Hopefully not using cloud backup will help.
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I initially restored with a cable, but once I started getting shawty performance, I made a backup on my sd card and restored it from there with Smart Switch. I never used cloud backup since that takes a lot of time for me. After getting suboptimal results with both, I just bit the bullet and slowly started adding everything and getting it to how it was on my old devices. Only then did I get getting substatiall better results. Now I can run a lot of Wii/GC/3DS/PS2 games at 1.5x, 2x, and sometimes even 3x without getting throttled. Not sure why using smart switch tanked my performance, but all I know is that it's not tanking now.
Thats interesting. Because I also moved data using cable. I do not know how good is cloud since I never did it before (only on Apple devices).
I might try to fully format tablet and test it again.
Will provide more information later
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Thats interesting. Because I also moved data using cable. I do not know how good is cloud since I never did it before (only on Apple devices).
I might try to fully format tablet and test it again.
Will provide more information later
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I tried formatting few days ago, and that didn't help. At least for me this problem is not related to Smart Switch. Do you also have bad benchmark scores? I understand that benchmarks are not very good indicator of performance (especially due to GOS), but I expect to have at least average SD8gen1 performance, not the level of SD855.
Did reset to factory settings. It is much better at least for now. Benchmark - tested only Geekbench 5. Result the same
Hi.. I'm experiencing the same problem here.. any updates regarding this problem? My geekbench score can't even surpass an exynos 2100.. it only achieve around 700ish on single core.. the first time I notice this is when I tried playing granturismo with aethersx2.. and it can't even handle the 1x reso.. hhhh.. really frustrated here.. please kindly share any clues regarding this topic thanks in advance.. sorry not a native English speaker
I had same problem, but, i solved using this:
ADB AppControl 1.7.5
(disable all game service (i'm not remember how many)). For me it's work great
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i disabled bixdy and others apps too
First.. thank you for the answer! Might try it out later..
So it's like disabling the "GOS" right? Is it different from the "alternate game performance" option in game booster? They said it's the "official" way to disable the GOS.. but yeah I didn't find any difference after enabling that option though... Hmm..
Hmm...also.. What makes me wonder is.. I saw some reviewers review this device without any tweaking needed and they could achieve a 8gen1'ish results in benchmarks.. and also if you know ETA prime on YouTube.. he reviewed a tab s8 ultra and is able to run a granturismo 4 with aethersx2 (ps2 emulator) in 3x reso in default settings with no problems... I know it's a different device but it's supposed to have a same Chip right?
All of this things makes me frustrated because it was not what i expected from a 8gen1 device.. moreover I saw a sd870 device could run the granturismo 4 in the same settings with no problems.. it really broke my heart..
The issue mainly lies in the SOC.
Even though, SD8 Gen 1 has a much higher peak performance, especially in GPU, it can't sustain that performance due to excesive power consumption which results in thermal throttling.
GOS is another thing that affects the whole experience, it's limiting the performance of the device.
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The issue mainly lies in the SOC.
Even though, SD8 Gen 1 has a much higher peak performance, especially in GPU, it can't sustain that performance due to excesive power consumption which results in thermal throttling.
GOS is another thing that affects the whole experience, it's limiting the performance of the device.
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Yeah.. I think this is mainly what cause the problem.. The 8gen1 itself..
a quick update regarding this from me..
I've done some re-test in benchmark and real game perfomance but this time im doing it in a well conditioned (cooled) room..
previously I was doing the test and gaming and in a room without any Air Conditioner and I lived in a tropical country which is really hot and humid...
the benchmark results (3d wildlife) came out Nice in a well cooled room, It scores what most of Tab S8 would score and the real life perfomance (PS2 emulator) is also improved..
it manages to handle GranTurismo 4 in aethersx2 with 3x reso on safe setting quite well..
the CPU temperature is well managed in around 35'ish Celcius compared to 45'ish when not using any air conditioner...
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Yeah.. I think this is mainly what cause the problem.. The 8gen1 itself..
a quick update regarding this from me..
I've done some re-test in benchmark and real game perfomance but this time im doing it in a well conditioned (cooled) room..
previously I was doing the test and gaming and in a room without any Air Conditioner and I lived in a tropical country which is really hot and humid...
the benchmark results (3d wildlife) came out Nice in a well cooled room, It scores what most of Tab S8 would score and the real life perfomance (PS2 emulator) is also improved..
it manages to handle GranTurismo 4 in aethersx2 with 3x reso on safe setting quite well..
the CPU temperature is well managed in around 35'ish Celcius compared to 45'ish when not using any air conditioner...
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CPU temperature 35 Celsius degrees? Are you talking about an ABSOLUTE idle? Because even if you would put a bag of ice on the TAB it wouldn't sit that low under usage. Even small loads will put the CPU around 50-60 Celsius degrees. Under heavy load up to 85-90 till the thermal throttle hits in.
Also, that ONE wildlife mark test doesn't do much. The idea is stability, better known as SUSTAINED performance, and that's where SD8 Gen 1 ****s itself. Try running a Wildlife standard stress test (20-minute loop) and post the screenshot, you'll see what I mean.
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CPU temperature 35 Celsius degrees? Are you talking about an ABSOLUTE idle? Because even if you would put a bag of ice on the TAB it wouldn't sit that low under usage. Even small loads will put the CPU around 50-60 Celsius degrees. Under heavy load up to 85-90 till the thermal throttle hits in.
Also, that ONE wildlife mark test doesn't do much. The idea is stability, better known as SUSTAINED performance, and that's where SD8 Gen 1 ****s itself. Try running a Wildlife standard stress test (20-minute loop) and post the screenshot, you'll see what I mean.
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I only saw the perf-z indicator from samsung though.. so yeah.. i know i might just straight up wrong about this I just straight saying what I saw.. and honestly I'm not an expert in this.. just a mere consumer..
Yeah I got you.. it goes downhill even after the first one.. what I'm trying to say was that I never reach that score before in warm room so yeah it's mainly the CPU problem..
What mainly being my concern before was I'm scared that I got scammed with a fake/unoriginal/refurbished tab s8.....
Harry Potter plays fluently on Tab S8 Plus here.
I have sent my S8 to my mom and bought S8 plus. Did not restore, set it up from scratch. No lagging in games, including HP. So, it could be related to thermal soliton in S8 plus as it is bigger
Bege21 said:
First.. thank you for the answer! Might try it out later..
So it's like disabling the "GOS" right? Is it different from the "alternate game performance" option in game booster? They said it's the "official" way to disable the GOS.. but yeah I didn't find any difference after enabling that option though... Hmm..
Hmm...also.. What makes me wonder is.. I saw some reviewers review this device without any tweaking needed and they could achieve a 8gen1'ish results in benchmarks.. and also if you know ETA prime on YouTube.. he reviewed a tab s8 ultra and is able to run a granturismo 4 with aethersx2 (ps2 emulator) in 3x reso in default settings with no problems... I know it's a different device but it's supposed to have a same Chip right?
All of this things makes me frustrated because it was not what i expected from a 8gen1 device.. moreover I saw a sd870 device could run the granturismo 4 in the same settings with no problems.. it really broke my heart..
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Yes you have to run 4 adb Commands that also disables game booster and game launcher then GOS will stay disabled even after restart. I've done this and turn ram plus off. I also disabled or put into deep sleep all of the bs apps. I also went to advance features and turned off all of everything causes I don't use the s-pen so no need for air actions and stuff to be on. If you want the ADB commands let me know.