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I see some weird statements on this forum regarding OnePlus 3 with an overwhelming majority being baseless ovations :
jrfan888 said:
i went from an S7 to the OnePlus3 and im extremely happy with my decision.
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Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
Cause.
#neversettle
Better deal/performance? Too single out post is hardly proof of dodgy postings generally?
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Because
1. lack of soc sources.
2. lower price and if not same even better performance.
3. and more then 1080p is overkill
4. faster charging.
I would do the same.
And you can sell a s7 and buy op3 + a real high end camera. Op3 is still the best phone. No matter what media is telling you. But its still up to you.
ROOTDOT said:
I see some weird statements on this forum regarding OnePlus 3 with an overwhelming majority being baseless ovations :
Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
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well then let me clarify.
didnt sell it, gave it to my wife, so it's still around. i love the S7. my S7 was the dual sim version. i couldn't stand the 2g on the 2nd sim. when i saw that the OP3 had dual sim capabilities, with 3g on one and lte on the other, i made the jump.
so, my ovations arent baseless.
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Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
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like i said on that same thread.... S7 and S7e have better hardware (camera, wireless fast charging, QC3.0, QHD screen, etc) but the software sucks (which affects performance). Dev scene is also terrible.
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nadejo said:
And you can sell a s7 and buy op3 + a real high end camera. Op3 is still the best phone. No matter what media is telling you. But its still up to you.
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did this myself a few years ago, when I got the OnePlus One + a Sony RX100 on sale which in total was still less than a 64GB Samsung Flagship
SW after-processing (ie, HDR) and better sensors make a big difference, but you're still never going to replicate the performance of a REAL quality camera, even if it's a point and shoot.
ROOTDOT said:
I see some weird statements on this forum regarding OnePlus 3 with an overwhelming majority being baseless ovations :
Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
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Can't comment on above case, but some of us feel uneasy having so much money invested in a phone when a very close competitor is half the price. In my case my contract was up for renewal got a HTC 10, ebayed it for £450 bought a OnePlus3 pocketed over £100.
And Touchwiz.
ROOTDOT said:
I see some weird statements on this forum regarding OnePlus 3 with an overwhelming majority being baseless ovations :
Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
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I literally just did exactly this. I actually still have the S7, but just threw it up on craigslist this morning. For me, I found the S7's performance and battery life to be extremely subpar. When I first got it the phone was lightning fast, but over time EVERY part of the user experience developed lag. Factory resets did nothing, deleting apps did nothing. Maybe I got a lemon, but it was terrible by the end. By contrast, the OP3 is very fast and battery life seems to be about on par. The faster charging is nice.
I will say though, the screen and camera are far superior on the S7. It's not even close. But I shoot professionally with my DSLR, so a phone's camera is of little consequence to me. And while it's not as good, the OP3 1080P screen is beyond acceptable. Also, the benefit of running stock android cannot be overstated. It is a world better than the Samsung skinned variant.
All feature differences aside. I bought both phones on craigslist over the last few months. S7 was $450, OP3 was $300. I've already gotten offers on my S7 for $400 with it being up only a few hours. I'll gladly pocket the $100+ difference and live with the OP3, for now.
ROOTDOT said:
I see some weird statements on this forum regarding OnePlus 3 with an overwhelming majority being baseless ovations :
Why would anyone sell a Samsung S7 which has better screen, better camera, better battery life for OP 3? I own one and it's not that good
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As far as I remember I never created a thread to tell other forum members my product was better than theirs. This thread is kinda funny, isn't it? I would never buy a Samsung device like I would never buy any Apple products. For me the OnePlus 3 is the best available phone. It's modding- and community-friendly and comes with a powerfull hardware at a fair price. I'm not willed to pay for company's million-dollar marketing campaigns.
i used a galaxy s7 edge extensively and its the best camera phone out there. but when it comes to the whole package its sucks ball. to me the build quality is zero its pathetic, cant find a single protector here where i live that wont come off after 2 days. phone is unusable without something on the back. coz its silpery as hell. the worst part is the software. touchwiz is the worst skin ever in the history of android. these reviewer who say the new touchwiz is fast and responsive. r not using the fone as daily drivers. its lag fest for me. also the clicking home button sounds like it will break any sec.
the only reason i bought the one plus 3 was the performance. i m getting that too its not perfect but its million times better then what samsung galaxy s7 edge offered to me. i payed over 530 dollers here to buy a oneplus 3. and i m happy about my purchase.
thanks
death to all glass back phones,p
Happy OnePlus devices user for 27 months, spreading around the word that you can only spend 399 for a great phone!!
I actually think more people and reviewers get payed by Samsung or Apple to praise their overpriced junk.
Maybe topicstarter got paid to stir the pot in the OnePlus section to praise the Samsung products..
everyone is saying that s7 edge is better, i dont know why and how, but i can take better photos with my OP3... i tried many times but my OP3 take better photos than my brother's S7e. just video recording is much better on S7e...
the performance is better. the software support is better. the selfie camera is better. the charging speed is faster. the price is lower... So OP3 > S7E
I actually moved from the s7 edge to the op3, only the camera's quality* speed and sound is better than the op3.
*most of the time
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I sold my LG G5 and bought Oneplus 3.
The Lg was lacking developement and support so badly. And I haven't regret my decicion at all!
Only thing I miss is the sdcard.
Since it seems perfectly clear that some people are more than willing to swap an S7 for a OP3, can we close this thread? It's nothing but a witch hunt where one doesn't need to exist.
I have both S7E destroys it in pretty much every department but fast charging, Since OP3 battery life sucks you need it haha :laugh:
Everything else > this thread. Coming from the Nexus 6 here. I have to say that the OP3 is a solid phone for the price. You can't really get much more for the same price. 6gb ram, 64 gb storage, dual sim, extremely fast charging. Yeah the battery life could be better, and the sim tray could be a hybrid type tray for microsd cards like the Axon, the screen could be a higher res. Other than that its a great phone. It has solid specs, and an unlockable bootloader, two things that make a device highly favored by XDA goers.
If someone wants to buy me another phone to put it to the test I'd be happy to take them up on the offer (;
nothing good can come from this thread.
Thread closed.
Note 9 has a lot of good things going for it . . . but a flagship?
Oreo instead of Pie?
No 5G?
Broadcom‘s new super accurate dual frequency GPS chip not part of the package? (Chip introduced almost a year ago and Xaomi’s already released the M8 with this chip)
Remember 2016? The Samsung A9 had a safe 5,000 mAh battery. Why can’t we put this in this note?
Feel free to add to this list of disappointments. Perhaps some of them will be fixed with the S 10?
Would a 5000mah battery in this years Note be a 'safe' marketing move? As a tech enthusiast I'd love to see it, however, I understand why they have played it safe, they need a couple of generations of solid performers without any hiccups before ramping back up. Imagine poor sales vs Note 7 repeat, they can't afford a repeat - I believe the Note would be a doomed product if it happened again.
The latest GPS chip: Samsung recently explained that a highly competitive high end market coupled with a difficulty in adding compelling new features led to poor sales of the S9 group. It's swings and roundabouts, on one hand you could throw everything into your latest and greatest devices, but next year?
Note 9 makes a safe and just about interesting enough entry, it gives Samsung breathing room for next years model. Even the presentation had mention of how difficult it is to come up with new features.
Note 10 - 4500/5000mah battery, 5G, New GPS chip + 1 or 2 more features, makes more sense for a '10' iteration than the '9'.
Technically the Note 8 can support the 1GB speeds. The Note 9 will as well.
https://phandroid.com/2017/09/08/att-gigabit-lte-galaxy-note-8/
5G is not a real tech yet, it's actually called 5G evolution which is a fast LTE which the Note supports.
https://www.computerworld.com/artic...ess/why-atts-5g-evolution-isnt-really-5g.html
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Technically the Note 8 can support the 1GB speeds. The Note 9 will as well.
https://phandroid.com/2017/09/08/att-gigabit-lte-galaxy-note-8/
5G is not a real tech yet, it's actually called 5G evolution which is a fast LTE which the Note supports.
https://www.computerworld.com/artic...ess/why-atts-5g-evolution-isnt-really-5g.html
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Personally I think the real challenge that Samsung Has is in the processor. Snapdragaon and Exynos have both seen decent improvments over the years but they don't hold a candle to what Apple has done with theirs. Not sure if they will ever win that battle, but I hope they can get closer.
I also believe that we are all going to be blown away by the S10 when it comes out. Samsung is putting ALL of the new HOT stuff they have been working on - INscreen Fingerprint scanner to name one - and I bet there will be bunch more!
I am getting the note 9, I just can't help myself - I am an addict when it comes to these devices - but I am really excited to see what is giong to happen when the S10 comes out.
You're getting too edgy with this. Pie was not relased during the development and 5g is still far away. Talking about the gps thing even my s7edge gets 4meter accuracy while driving what else do u need? An inch of accuracy!
The only things I wanted, and still hope come true . 1 )flat glass on the screen again, I mean it's a note right, easier to write on. 2) Alcantara case 3) dbrand grip case.
5g is way off, probably 2 generations before wide adoption. GPS has been great since Note 4 so not really seeing the need for that either.
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Would a 5000mah battery in this years Note be a 'safe' marketing move? As a tech enthusiast I'd love to see it, however, I understand why they have played it safe, they need a couple of generations of solid performers without any hiccups before ramping back up. Imagine poor sales vs Note 7 repeat, they can't afford a repeat - I believe the Note would be a doomed product if it happened again.
The latest GPS chip: Samsung recently explained that a highly competitive high end market coupled with a difficulty in adding compelling new features led to poor sales of the S9 group. It's swings and roundabouts, on one hand you could throw everything into your latest and greatest devices, but next year?
Note 9 makes a safe and just about interesting enough entry, it gives Samsung breathing room for next years model. Even the presentation had mention of how difficult it is to come up with new features.
Note 10 - 4500/5000mah battery, 5G, New GPS chip + 1 or 2 more features, makes more sense for a '10' iteration than the '9'.
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Very well said.
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Note 9 has a lot of good things going for it . . . but a flagship?
Oreo instead of Pie?
No 5G?
Broadcom‘s new super accurate dual frequency GPS chip not part of the package? (Chip introduced almost a year ago and Xaomi’s already released the M8 with this chip)
Remember 2016? The Samsung A9 had a safe 5,000 mAh battery. Why can’t we put this in this note?
Feel free to add to this list of disappointments. Perhaps some of them will be fixed with the S 10?
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Name one note that released with that years version of android.
Complaining about not being on the latest version of android (that was just released) while ignoring all the added samsung functionality is kind of a short sighted comparison..
Good Discussion
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Would a 5000mah battery in this years Note be a 'safe' marketing move? As a tech enthusiast I'd love to see it, however, I understand why they have played it safe, they need a couple of generations of solid performers without any hiccups before ramping back up. Imagine poor sales vs Note 7 repeat, they can't afford a repeat - I believe the Note would be a doomed product if it happened again.
The latest GPS chip: Samsung recently explained that a highly competitive high end market coupled with a difficulty in adding compelling new features led to poor sales of the S9 group. It's swings and roundabouts, on one hand you could throw everything into your latest and greatest devices, but next year?
Note 9 makes a safe and just about interesting enough entry, it gives Samsung breathing room for next years model. Even the presentation had mention of how difficult it is to come up with new features.
Note 10 - 4500/5000mah battery, 5G, New GPS chip + 1 or 2 more features, makes more sense for a '10' iteration than the '9'.
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Alltaken123,
I would definitely hire you as a customer service rep for Samsung! You have a plausible explanation for the concerns mentioned and your words are very well spoken. Thank you.
Couple of points to consider…
On the GPS chip: anybody who has walked the streets of Tokyo using any current smartphone GPS knows the frustration when you walk around the block three times because reflected GPS signals keep causing the blue dot to jump 100’s of meters when you think you are at your destination. It would be great to have the accuracy and reflected signal rejection Broadcom’s new chip promises.
On the “in glass fingerprint recognition“ that feature is dubious when a phone has facial recognition & a great back side fingerprint scanner... but it’s something new to hype.
And now my favorite… Larger batteries and the direction the industry has moved towards. Your explanation of Samsung being extremely cautious makes perfect sense and is a likely driver for their decision. That’s said, Samsung’s A9 realeased in 2016 with a 5,000 mah battery had no issues. Because it had a mid tier CPU it truly delivered 2 days of heavy use.
I probably should put this one in a separate thread but here’s the short version of what’s going on with battery capacities: phone makers match their battery mah capacity to approximately one day’s worth of power consumption. Why? Because when you charge your phone every day you’ll end up wearing the battery out within two years. In the “old days with replaceable batteries“ you could extend the life of your phone a few years by changing the battery. Now with sealed-in batteries you are virtually compelled to buy a new $800 electronic monitoring bracelet every two years. Pretty slick from a business perspective. Before someone jumps in and tells me you can’t have a water resistant phone with a removable battery, let me share my experience with phones in the Japanese domestic market. Japanese have had replaceable batteries in many of their water resistant cell phones since the 1990s. All it takes is a good o-ring and a decent latch. Today, however, Japan is “mostly” onboard with the lucrative (albeit wasteful) sealed-in battery scheme.
nuclearrage said:
The only things I wanted, and still hope come true . 1 )flat glass on the screen again, I mean it's a note right, easier to write on. 2) Alcantara case 3) dbrand grip case.
5g is way off, probably 2 generations before wide adoption. GPS has been great since Note 4 so not really seeing the need for that either.
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5g evolution is already in many cities like dfw. And the note 8 supports it. Full 5g won’t be here anytime in the next couple of years.
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nuclearrage said:
The only things I wanted, and still hope come true . 1 )flat glass on the screen again, I mean it's a note right, easier to write on. 2) Alcantara case 3) dbrand grip case.
5g is way off, probably 2 generations before wide adoption. GPS has been great since Note 4 so not really seeing the need for that either.
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+1 for the flat glass. I'm not buying any phone with the curved screen gimmick.
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+1 for the flat glass. I'm not buying any phone with the curved screen gimmick.
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Another +1 for USEABLE flat glass....and for recognizing the curve as an artsy gimmick. Narrow 2mm bezels are fine. After all the flesh of one’s hand covers anywhere from 2 to 4 mm of bezel/screen anyway.
Guess I'm the only person that actually likes the curved screen. Function over form is what I always go for.
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Guess I'm the only person that actually likes the curved screen. Function over form is what I always go for.
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Then why do you like the curved glass? It's absolutely not function over form...
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+1 for the flat glass. I'm not buying any phone with the curved screen gimmick.
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I feel exactly the opposite. The curve makes edge swipe gestures far more useful, and I have come to rely on them significantly.
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Guess I'm the only person that actually likes the curved screen.
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Not alone! To be honest I just like the way the curved glass looks... I always found it gave the phone a more premium feel. Given the choice I would still take curved over flat edges, even though I don't even use the Edge features. Purely an aesthetic preference for me, but others of course may have different tastes and requirements.
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Guess I'm the only person that actually likes the curved screen. Function over form is what I always go for.
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Sometimes the screen protector situation bothers me but Im all for curved glass. Looks sexy
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Then why do you like the curved glass? It's absolutely not function over form...
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I like the curved glass screen because of edge display and the edge features. Yes it can be a but annoying with accidental touches but the trade off is worth it for me.
As far as the screen protector issue, that has nothing to do with Samsung. All those screen protector makers are being cheap and stupid. They make full coverage ones with only adhesive on the sides, and they also make case friendly ones with full adhesive. Why the heck can they not make a full coverage one with full adhesive?! Seems very stupid to me that they are having such a hard time making a dang protector that handles both things.
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+1 for the flat glass. I'm not buying any phone with the curved screen gimmick.
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onepiece said:
Another +1 for USEABLE flat glass....and for recognizing the curve as an artsy gimmick. Narrow 2mm bezels are fine. After all the flesh of one’s hand covers anywhere from 2 to 4 mm of bezel/screen anyway.
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It's only a gimmick if you don't find a use for it. I can think of a lot of people that classifies the SPen as a gimmick. I use the heck out of mine, at least I thought I did until I met a guy that has to replace the tip of his SPen every month! He hooked me up with 3 bags of tips a few months ago after I got my Note 8. I haven't even replaced the tip yet for my original one.
I come to rely Alot on the apps edge since I started using the s7 edge. It helps me switch apps much faster than using the recent button. Well we can have apps That do the same thing but the curve makes it very smooth and natural to use
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Note 9 has a lot of good things going for it . . . but a flagship?
Oreo instead of Pie?
No 5G?
Broadcom‘s new super accurate dual frequency GPS chip not part of the package? (Chip introduced almost a year ago and Xaomi’s already released the M8 with this chip)
Remember 2016? The Samsung A9 had a safe 5,000 mAh battery. Why can’t we put this in this note?
Feel free to add to this list of disappointments. Perhaps some of them will be fixed with the S 10?
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Excited for the Note 9. Pre-ordered the 512gb already.
What does Android P have that Samsung's Oreo does not have more of?
What's the point of hurriedly introducing 5G when the tech is not yet mature. That would make the Note 9 a beta phone which I'm glad it's not.
I agree with the missing GPS chip.
I also agree with a 5kmAh battery
Overall I'm very happy with the Note 9 and consider it a big upgrade over the Note 8.
All,
I bought the Gear S3 Frontier at launch and I am still wearing it every day. Now I am trying to find reasons why I should upgrade this watch to a Watch 3, as the S3 is already some years old. Except for blood saturation measurement, I did not really see big upgrades or new features that justify the expenses. Also the lack of new great apps (except for watch faces) and support for Samsung Pay in The Netherlands are holding me back for this upgrade. Am I missing some great reasons to get the Watch 3, except for some change of aestethics?
I have SM-R760...
GW3 has new Tizen 5.5...
Pro GW3
8 GB eMMC
Blood Pressure and ECG possible... if not in official way then via Sideload...
Contra
New and expensive...
Blood Oxygen seems again not in all countries...
And for sure... NO changes to Samsung Pay...
My opinion.
I would wait if somebody from Netherlands confirm all things you wish will work...
Best Regards
I second what adfree said.
Do some reading
https://www.sammobile.com/opinion/reasons-to-avoid-buying-galaxy-watch-3/amp/
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All,
I bought the Gear S3 Frontier at launch and I am still wearing it every day. Now I am trying to find reasons why I should upgrade this watch to a Watch 3, as the S3 is already some years old. Except for blood saturation measurement, I did not really see big upgrades or new features that justify the expenses. Also the lack of new great apps (except for watch faces) and support for Samsung Pay in The Netherlands are holding me back for this upgrade. Am I missing some great reasons to get the Watch 3, except for some change of aestethics?
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I have an SM-770 (S3) and I just upgraded; I should receive my GW3 later today. Reasons I upgraded:
Leaner profile
IP68 rating
ECG (sensor approved in US, but app may be delayed)
Blood Oxygen sensor (Firmware update just released in US)
Blood pressure
Samsung gave me $100 trade in for my S3, about the same as what I thought I could get selling it.
My biggest disappointment will be no MST.
I decided to upgrade my Frontier to the 41mm as well. I like the smaller watch rather than the larger S3. I found myself using the S2 classic titanium more than the S3 just due to the size. Since I am getting the Note 20 Ultra, I love the fact that I can charge the new watch by putting it on the back of the Note. One less accessory to carry when I start travelling again.
I'd add a caveat about the ECG and BPM....They are on-demand features currently (I doubt that changes). If you don't need constant monitoring, there are other consumer devices you can get ranging from about $80-$200 that have BPM (with a cuff) and ECG nodes. Also, you need a quality BPM monitor with a cuff to calibrate the watch monthly, anyway.
Unless you're a competitive athlete, VO2 max is kind of a gimmick.
SPo2 might be worthwhile if you suffer from asthma in any way. It's also helpful for identifying potential sleep apnea. But, again, you can get a few good consumer monitors to do that in the $120-$180 range.
I understand the sleep tracking is much improved. But, frankly, there are a few Android apps and a few smart rings that are far superior.
Smartwatches not only need to be functional, but as an accessory you wear they need to look good too. Whilst I liked the frontier, the Galaxy Watch I bought to replace it looked so much better. The Watch 3 takes that a step further and looks fantastic. Plus the battery in your Frontier is getting on a bit now, it's going to degrade and underperform. So I would say upgrading for better functions and a better overall look, it's definitely worth it.
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I really like the 1.4" display on the 45mm. My old watch was 1.2", and it makes a big difference if you're a low-brow abuser of classic luxury knock-off watchfaces like me.
I received the 41mm Silver today and am returning it immediately. Compared to the S2 Classic Platinum or the S3 Classic, it feels too thick for the diameter. The black bezel seems cheesy to me and I just can't see using the Watch 3. I'll stay with the S2 and S3.
Again, I love the bigger 1.4" display. The rotating bezel is not something I would miss, and aesthetically I'd agree this could have been done better. The larger crystal and smaller bezel is a more modern look you can find on luxury watches, a matter of preference IMO.
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I received the 41mm Silver today and am returning it immediately. Compared to the S2 Classic Platinum or the S3 Classic, it feels too thick for the diameter. The black bezel seems cheesy to me and I just can't see using the Watch 3. I'll stay with the S2 and S3.
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Not sure what you mean by 'cheesy'. Perhaps elaborate a bit.
I ordered the 45mm silver one, arriving today. I am upgrading from the Galaxy Watch (1st gen) which is also silver, both look premium to me.
Maybe it's because you ordered the smaller version and it somehow just doesn't look right? I will give my verdict later today.
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I received my 45mm black GW3 yesterday and it is replacing my S3 Frontier. I took it for multiple tracked bike rides and have constant HR monitoing turned on. I will be keeping it, however the Pulse O2 feature is quite finicky to get consistient results. and you dont seem to get access to Vo2 max data for cycling.
Looks wise on a medium man-sized wrist I think it looks smaller than my Frontier.
$100 trade-in is why I made the switch. My Gear S3 was having issues so before it failed I decided to take advantage of the trade-in offer. I am very happy with Watch 3. It's much faster and a charge lasts twice as long. If your S3 is working fine and doesn't seem sluggish to you, might be best to wait for the price of the Watch 3 to come down. But if you think you may need a new watch fairly soon, the Watch 3 is the best new watch available so trade in while you can.
I stopped by Best Buy yesterday with my S3 Classic on my wrist. Looking at the watches side by side, I didn't see much reason to upgrade unless my S3 stops holding a charge. At this point I am still getting two days use on the S3.
upgrading for better functions, latest software & hardware, warranty, etc. should be a nice ride...
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EDIT: Right after I ordered I saw that Sammy today announced the titanium version coming out on October 2. I'm gonna wait for that one and cancelled the order mentioned below.
Call me a sucker for a deal, but when I checked into my Samsung account today to see the shipping date on my Tab S7 Plus, I noticed a header giving up to 30% off certain accessories. Between the Military discount and the offered discount on the large silver version, I picked up the Watch3 for $358 pre-tax. Total discount of 17% for the silver so I'm in. Sammy didn't offer a trade in for my S3 Classic so I'll probably put in it on the Bay.
^good deal: what size? LTE?
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^good deal: what size? LTE?
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This was for the bluetooth large in silver. The offer was still on this morning, but I'm gonna wait for the Titanium.
Ah yes, the Note 20 Ultra will be my last in a long line of Samsung phone ownership. I'm just not satisfied with this product. That's not to say it's a bad phone but there are other tempting, albeit less expensive options available nowadays. I was happier with the Note 10+. I'm not impressed with the Note 20's cameras the 108mp camera makes no noticeable difference. The large sensor is great but it tends to blur the edges of the object in focus quite frequently. I can't take a selfie without my teeth, which are white, looking like a stick of butter. Battery life is not impressive at all. Basically, there is nothing that justifies the the price I paid for this device and I wish I stuck with my Note 10+.
Fully agree.
The price tag (even if I did not pay for that phone) is insane for that device:
Camera? Lol. Quality not impressive and the 50x zoom garbage produces very nice "Pixel arts" composition. Oops sorry I think I used the word "quality" in that sentence, surely inappropriate in that context.
Battery? lol. I am barely using the phone, it hardly lasts from morning to evening, then battery almost empty
Apps? Junkware? My phone is/was full of links to paying craps from Samsung
The bulge? the weight? Recipe for disaster.
The headphones? The wireless charge? Oh wait, those are extra to be paid separately...
The fingerprint sensor on the screen? lol. Prevents me from using my phone regularly. Rubbish.
CPU oh let's remind that I don't have the same as international, I have the exynox junk.
Samsung junk to "protect" (their business) and lock your phone, so you don't remove their junkwares.
I don't see what that device has more than devices costing 25% of the asking price.
Good experience, it will save me (my own) money for future purchases.
The device is only worth it ( for me anyways ) when heavily discounted via trade in. Otherwise , there's no way in it's worth $1399 plus tax , that's for sure.
I had a brief run with a OnePlus 8 Pro, 799$ black Friday deal, and that was a better value choice over all. However, if one doesn't intend to root then it can be a rather boring device.
I heard that in another brilliant Apple like move that Sammy will not include chargers bundled with their phones.
Samsung Galaxy S21 now looks likely to come without a charger, like the iPhone 12
Samsung may follow Apple's lead
www.google.com
A Green move designed to steal more of your green... naturally.
Sammy, you've changed, but I'm not seeing rainbows... I'm seeing red.
The exynos version is a bad phone... The snapdragon is better but also doesnt worth 1400$ or €. With worldwide snapdragon for 699-799€ for the ultra would have been an amazing deal...
I'm quite happy, the IQ from the main camera is better than my Note 9 by quite a stretch, and the IQ holds up well in this camera shootout (see GSMArena's camera shootout between Mate 40 Pro, iPhone 12 pro max, Sony Xperia 1 MkII and Note 20 Ultra).
Its well built, I have the exynos version and I'm getting through 2 to 3 days between charges with 7 to 8 hrs SoT. I did debloat a bit but have all the original functionality, dont have it in 5G mode as this does eat battery (Dont have 5g here yet), use wifi 90% of time so phone data is off. I have no issues with fingerprint scanner, works well.
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I'm quite happy, the IQ from the main camera is better than my Note 9 by quite a stretch, and the IQ holds up well in this camera shootout (see GSMArena's camera shootout between Mate 40 Pro, iPhone 12 pro max, Sony Xperia 1 MkII and Note 20 Ultra).
Its well built, I have the exynos version and I'm getting through 2 to 3 days between charges with 7 to 8 hrs SoT. I did debloat a bit but have all the original functionality, dont have it in 5G mode as this does eat battery (Dont have 5g here yet), use wifi 90% of time so phone data is off. I have no issues with fingerprint scanner, works well.
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Which OS are you on?
Guys, did someone force you to buy it?
zazabichi said:
Guys, did someone force you to buy it?
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Samsung phones can be like punji pits, lots of concealed sharp surprises.
zazabichi said:
Guys, did someone force you to buy it?
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No, we are free to review it.
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No, we are free to review it.
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Lol, feel the wuv
The really funny part is Samsung can't handle criticism. If you ever talked to a SK based Samsung rep you'll see what I mean. I enjoy drilling into them immensely. Some of that is cultural and the rest is poor training.
They don't interface well with irate Westerners
Tough.
blackhawk said:
Lol, feel the wuv
The really funny part is Samsung can't handle criticism. If you ever talked to a SK based Samsung rep you'll see what I mean. I enjoy drilling into them immensely. Some of that is cultural and the rest is poor training.
They don't interface well with irate Westerners
Tough.
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So in a nutshell , if one were politely show them an issue they'd get offended ?
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So in a nutshell , if one were politely show them an issue they'd get offended ?
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Well politely to them would be to beat around the bush and never get anything resolved or escalated. If you consider the same rep asking you the same questions 2 even 3 times then yes, yes it's a quit pleasant and polite conversation.
However if on the other hand you tend to be assertive like me, it's the stuff of nightmares for a mealy mouth SK rep. You can feel their bp rising; that's the most satisfaction you're likely to get.
I would rather talk to the wall...
Samsung has the worst customer support of any large corporation I have dealt with extensively.
Worse than Toshiba even Sony... Samsung is that bad, #10.
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Well politely to them would be to beat around the bush and never get anything resolved or escalated. If you consider the same rep asking you the same questions 2 even 3 times then yes, yes it's a quit pleasant and polite conversation.
However if on the other hand you tend to be assertive like me, it's the stuff of nightmares for a mealy mouth SK rep. You can feel their bp rising; that's the most satisfaction you're likely to get.
I would rather talk to the wall...
Samsung has the worst customer support of any large corporation I have dealt with extensively.
Worse than Toshiba even Sony... Samsung is that bad, #10.
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For some strange reason I can believe that.
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For some strange reason I can believe that.
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Nothing like trying it yourself... drive right in, the water is great, pay no never mind to the jellyfish.
Denon on the other hand is an absolute pleasure to deal with; superb customer service.
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Nothing like trying it yourself... drive right in, the water is great, pay no never mind to the jellyfish.
Denon on the other hand is an absolute pleasure to deal with; superb customer service.
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Best customer services that I ever recall was ironically an american firm called Cerwin Vega, mind you this was back in the mid 90s and in the UK. Their UK senior representative came to my home to check out an issue with my AT-100 speakers. Lol
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Best customer services that I ever recall was ironically an american firm called Cerwin Vega, mind you this was back in the mid 90s and in the UK. Their UK senior representative came to my home to check out an issue with my AT-100 speakers. Lol
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"Loud is beautiful… if it's clean"
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"Loud is beautiful… if it's clean"
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Clean it wasn't
I've had the note 9, note 10+, and now the note 20 ultra. I absolutely loved the note 10+ and wish I would of never traded it in for the note 20 ultra piece of dung. What a pile of junk rolled into a barely bronze metal container. I've had many smartphones and loved my Xiaomi phones. What happened with the note 20 ultra?
Yes their customer service is wretched! I needed damage repaired on my S6 tablet. I bought the accidental damage protection plan with my tablet on Shop Samsung's website. Samsung took almost 3 weeks to fix it and kept saying I had not paid for accidental damage coverage. Needless to say after spending a stupid amount of time 2 to 3 times a week on the phone I finally got it covered and got it back only to find it now glitches and crashes and has horrible battery life now. Yay!
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I've had the note 9, note 10+, and now the note 20 ultra. I absolutely loved the note 10+ and wish I would of never traded it in for the note 20 ultra piece of dung. What a pile of junk rolled into a barely bronze metal container. I've had many smartphones and loved my Xiaomi phones. What happened with the note 20 ultra?
Yes their customer service is wretched! I needed damage repaired on my S6 tablet. I bought the accidental damage protection plan with my tablet on Shop Samsung's website. Samsung took almost 3 weeks to fix it and kept saying I had not paid for accidental damage coverage. Needless to say after spending a stupid amount of time 2 to 3 times a week on the phone I finally got it covered and got it back only to find it now glitches and crashes and has horrible battery life now. Yay!
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Fo you have the exynos? The snapdragon is way better... No heating, better battery, better mobile reception...
Was it a good move? I'm thinking about it.
I have the Tab S6 and just got my Tab S8 Ultra today. The Tab S6 was my favorite device ever (and I've had a lot of them). So thin, fast, great speakers and screen. Ultimately, I am just too accustomed to the higher refresh rate on all of my other devices and could notice the 60hz choppiness on the S6, so it was time for an upgrade. The screen on the S8 is absolutely stunning! I also LOVE the ability to miracast from my PC to the S8 and use it as a wireless second display for my laptop (called second screen), especially since the 16x10 aspect ratio matches my XPS 17. It will still take time to tell, but initially I am very impressed. I suppose the decision to switch will depend on your usage. If you're good with the screen size and refresh rate of the S6 and don't need any of the new features on the S8 than I would say just stick with your S6, it's still a fantastic device. If you plan on using the second screen feature or any of the other new stuff on the S8, well then it's something to consider.
There was a gap of about a year for me between these devices. But I loved my Tab S6. Now the Tab S8 Ultra ... a different league again. It is better in all respects (when you already decided to prefer the big screen). The first thing I notet though: finally a good fingerprint reader. With the S6 I was constantly annoyed, with the S8 it works like a charme.
I also bougt the keyboard cover again. I loved the back cover with the stand and the flap for the pen back then already. But now the tablet pretty much replaced my private laptop.
You have to be aware of the much increased weight, though. This is not a one handed device. But with this huge screen, you can put it in portrait orientation in your lap and the upper part of the screen will be easily far up enough for a comfortable read. Don't forget: its smaller side is almost as big as the wider side of the S6!
It is an amazing device and up at the top of my purchases that left me with the highest satisfaction afterwards.
I didn't own a Tab S6, but a an old Tab 4. I took the leap and purchased the Tab S8 Ultra. There is obviously no comparison between the Tab 4 and Ultra. What I would say is that I'm beyond impressed with the speed of the device. In some instances it's quicker then my S22 ultra or basically on par speed wise. I don't really use the 2nd screen function, but being able to make /pull calls between my S22 and tab is awesome. The speaker quality is great. Don't really use the camera, except for teams meetings. Due to size of screen it's a replacement for my HP Notebook . In my country there isn't really any contracts for the Tab S8 range, so I had to purchase the device cash and I'm very, very happy with my purchase. Multitasking is great. The screen quality is awesome. Watching media content is a pleasure on this device. I got the 65w Samsung trio charger and Samsung keyboard case as part of a bundle. I love the keyboard. I know some have issues typing, but for me it works fine for what I do. The S-pen is something I do use and it works great. Overall it's a great device. I don't know what the difference in speed etc is between the Tab S6 and 8, but if you could get a good trade in or sell the Tab S6, then I would say go ahead and get the Tab S8 Ultra
I have tab s5e, tab s6 and s8+ . In terms of holding single handed, nothing beats the s5e. Between the s6 and s8(not plus) I believe there's not much difference other than faster soc.The second screen function of s8 could be very useful though. I went for the s8+ instead of ultra because wanted a bigger screen but ultra seemed too big for me
I'm getting an 8+ tonight after work. I've been using Samsung phones since the s4 when it originally was released. I skipped the s6, but had one variation or another up to my current s20. I started with galaxy note tablet (2014 edition), upgraded to the tab s6 in 2020 only because my note tab was having battery issues. Now I'm getting the s8+ 5g so I won't have to use Wi-Fi always for my online videos.
I went from the Tab S6 to the S8+.
So far i am very happy with it. It did help i got a good deal from Samsung, and got a decent price for the Tab S6 too.
The extra screen size is very nice, specially with 12L now on the tablet. Great thing for me is that i can browse or watch youtube will a game runs on the side in a small part of the screen without stopping. Or use the taskbar to open your password manager to get some passwords etc.
Its a bit heavier, so it wont be an easy one handed device.
If you used the keyboard cover with touchpad, you can use the one that was also sold with the Tab S7+, i could not get that one from Samsung itself anymore. They do sell one with just a Keyboard, but that one aint detachable, so thats a big minus. I managed to get mine 2nd hand for 60 euro, but there are retailers still selling them. They attach by magnet now, that works a lot easier, and it wont come loose like the Tab S6 one did over time. The one with the detachable keyboard, also has a cover over the S-pen location on the back, the new one doesn't so thats a 2nd strike for me on that cover.
The extra realestate is nice, 12,4 inch is noticable.
If you use the tablet a lot, then i think its a worth while upgrade.
Made the switch from Tab S6 LTE to Tab S8+ 5G
We don't really have benefits of trade-ins or great values the same way many other countries do. I'm in Sweden
But we have a website that usuaully have sepcific deals, that requires that you login (you pay like €2 to get access).
Lots of deals on everything really.
So got the S8+ 5G and the hard cover from Samsung for about €650 with a 6 months of free Samsung care+
Didn't want the Ultra as it was too big for me and also because I have a relatively new notebook already which is 14"
So far I love the extra screen size and the ability to use it as a 2nd monitor when I'm out and about.
As a tablet it is, imo, perfect but biggger would be too big, especially since I have use for a notebook.
But as a tablet it is great and it will be a lot of cloud gaming and movies watched on it on the go. Also some work when I have no access to my notebook.
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Made the switch from Tab S6 LTE to Tab S8+ 5G
We don't really have benefits of trade-ins or great values the same way many other countries do. I'm in Sweden
But we have a website that usuaully have sepcific deals, that requires that you login (you pay like €2 to get access).
Lots of deals on everything really.
So got the S8+ 5G and the hard cover from Samsung for about €650 with a 6 months of free Samsung care+
Didn't want the Ultra as it was too big for me and also because I have a relatively new notebook already which is 14"
So far I love the extra screen size and the ability to use it as a 2nd monitor when I'm out and about.
As a tablet it is, imo, perfect but biggger would be too big, especially since I have use for a notebook.
But as a tablet it is great and it will be a lot of cloud gaming and movies watched on it on the go. Also some work when I have no access to my notebook.
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Sold mine to ReBuy, they refurbish and resell electronics. They offered me 390 for my blue Tab S6. Maybe they also operate in your country?
Mario919 said:
Sold mine to ReBuy, they refurbish and resell electronics. They offered me 390 for my blue Tab S6. Maybe they also operate in your country?
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We have sites like it where you can trade in but they usually never give as good or close to what you can get on the 2nd hand market.
I looked at one of them here and mince, which looks pristine when you remove it from the case is worth about €180 as they use set prices. The worse it is, I get less based form that value as the highest.
Thanks for the tipe though and I will see if I can find others.
So for that I rather sell it myself 2nd hand and get €250 - €300 or just hand it down to my better half that can use it.
I was on a Tab S6 LTE version before I moved to Tab S8 Ultra. S6 served me well for 2 years. I bought it just when Covid lockdowns started and have used it almost daily for 2 years without any issues. Amazing piece of hardware with great sound and screen. I wouldn't have got Tab S8 Ultra if the deal wasnt so good. Basically someone was selling 3 months old Tab S8 ultra along with the official keyboard case for about $1000 which was a steal in my country where this combo would have costed about 1900$.
First thing which hits you is how big the display is compared to Tab S6, it is gorgeous and sound is mind blowing. Only con i would say is that it is a bit on heavier side if you have one part of keyboard case attached to the back for kickstand so it wont be as mobile as tab s6 which was light as a feather. But thats what you pay for such a big screen. I have a pretty new Sony Tv but still I prefer watching a lot of content on S8U because quality is just too damn good.
I just bought the s8 ultra.. I found it used for 3-4 months, 512 - 16 with the keyboard for 800€. I think it's a good price otherwise I wouldn't get it..
I have s6 pro also. The experience of s8 ultra is mixed.. It really is very big. For the average person I think 10.5-11 inches tablet is best solution. But for Netflix, streaming etc is fantastic. I don't know if I will sell s6 as I also use it too, regardless having s8 ultra..
I should probably root s8 ultra to find more uses for it.
I want to use it as a second screen for my pc, but wirelessly the experience is laggy. What rooter should I get to have instant wireless experience as a second screen? Does anyone know? I had spoken to someone in YouTube who did have instant wireless experience but he had gigabit home network or something..
If I buy this cheap rooter do you think it will work?
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I just bought the s8 ultra.. I found it used for 3-4 months, 512 - 16 with the keyboard for 800€. I think it's a good price otherwise I wouldn't get it..
I have s6 pro also. The experience of s8 ultra is mixed.. It really is very big. For the average person I think 10.5-11 inches tablet is best solution. But for Netflix, streaming etc is fantastic. I don't know if I will sell s6 as I also use it too, regardless having s8 ultra..
I should probably root s8 ultra to find more uses for it.
I want to use it as a second screen for my pc, but wirelessly the experience is laggy. What rooter should I get to have instant wireless experience as a second screen? Does anyone know? I had spoken to someone in YouTube who did have instant wireless experience but he had gigabit home network or something..
If I buy this cheap rooter do you think it will work?
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You don't need to root it to use it as second screen on a pc. Secondly since it has warranty left, rooting will void warranty because it requires bootloader unlock to root it, which voids whole warranty all together once KNOX chip becomes triggered and broken permanently. Then also app like Samsung pass, secret folder is permantly disabled as well since they need working KNOX chip. Maybe you should wait and think when warranty is over.
Update: after re-reading your post i now saw you meant Router not Rooter, since at first I thought you mean what rooting method you wanted to do lol.
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You don't need to root it to use it as second screen on a pc. Secondly since it has warranty left, rooting will void warranty because it requires bootloader unlock to root it, which voids whole warranty all together once KNOX chip becomes triggered and broken permanently. Then also app like Samsung pass, secret folder is permantly disabled as well since they need working KNOX chip. Maybe you should wait and think when warranty is over.
Update: after re-reading your post i now saw you meant Router not Rooter, since at first I thought you mean what rooting method you wanted to do lol.
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I know that.. I already rooted tab s6. I know I don't have to root it for second screen. I want to root it for other things. Anyway I just tried second screen. It works but not very fast. I have a router 300mbit. I'll borrow a 840mbit router of a friend to see if speed is fast enough then..
I'll post my results when I do it.
took the upgrade from s6 to s8 ultra and landed the free keyboard case. no regrets at all
Tab 7 here. Always have luved the tab (since s2). Had my Tab 6 for about 2 months before I got the tab s7. Was a little disappointed that 7 didn't have amoled but it was another good one. The tab s8 plus is everything I could hope for in a tablet... Luving the sh** out of it.
can someone tell about the temperatures of the s8 and s8+ now that it haves the gen 1 please