Is there a way I can devote some internal space to system memory or am I stuck at 790mb for system memory?
Ok, bumping and let me ask this differently. Im trying to figure out how to use some of my 12gb of free storage that I have to create a page file for memory usage. Anyone?
As in make more room for Ram? I know you can do this after root. Are you rooted? Please also say the device model and the fire os?
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I am successfully using v3 but have two questions. First, my NC "Storage" indicates that total internal storage space is 0.92gb and available is 812mb. Did I do something wrong; I thought I had 8gb internally. Second, what version of OC do I use: SD or emmc? Third, certain free apps don't show in market, such as Amazon. Any ideas how I get the this and others that don't show? TIA.
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Mine also shows .92GB avail and 800mb or so free. Any luck?
same for me...
There are several partitions in the 8gb internal storage.
Right now some of them can not be read by android. That's why only about 1gb space shows in android.
You can mount and storage any files in the partitions through a PC by installing an app, though android can't read that, as I mentioned above.
Some apps whixh, can not be found in the market, you ca try the app name market enabler. Or you can download the apk installation file from internet, and install it by any file manager
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I have to be honest and say I am a bit baffled when I look at the 'Storage' breakdown on my Note. So I have a few questions as to how RAM and flash memory work together.
From looking at some threads on the forums here I understand of the 16GB of flash memory on my Note :
2GB is reserved for the ROM
2GB is reserved for apps, actually my phone says I have 1.97GB
The rest (11.06 GB) as general storage e.g. music, movies, documents, etc.
Wondering what happened to the other c1MB as I have only accounted for 15GB?
So in settings when I go to 'Storage' it is broken down into 2 sections, 'Device Memory' and 'USB Storage' now I find this screen a little bit confusing. So, is the 'USB Storage' the 11.06GB flash memory I have for general storage and the 'Device Memory' the 2GB (1.97GB) of flash memory for storing apps I download?
I find it strange that my phone says I have 1.97GB device memory (flash memory) total for apps, and my apps seem to be taking up 1.47GB but I only have 228MB available. That doesn't add up?? Even more confusing is the fact that when I try to download a 40MB app I am told 'Can't download to default location'!!
Also do I ever see what the 1GB of RAM is up to on my phone or is this managed secretly by Android?
Thanks for anyone willing to set me straight
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Anyone willing to help pls
Ram can't be accesed by u that's what your device uses to store processes so u can't save files or anything on it but anyways assuming your on gingerbread to "see what your ram is up to" go into system settings/applications/running services this what u see is runnning processes stored on your ram
Your note then has system internal and external memory
System memory is where your rom and system apps are installed (platystore youtube etc) you can't access this unless your rooted
Internal memory is the memory u get with your phone where u can store pics movies files etc and install apps I don't own this device but i doubt that it allocates a section of internal memory for apps
Then there's USB or external storage which is your memory card or flash drive (yes u can do that) u can store apps (which have app2sd support unless your rooted then u can move everything) movies files whatevever you want
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Ferg8080 said:
I have to be honest and say I am a bit baffled when I look at the 'Storage' breakdown on my Note. So I have a few questions as to how RAM and flash memory work together.
From looking at some threads on the forums here I understand of the 16GB of flash memory on my Note :
2GB is reserved for the ROM
2GB is reserved for apps, actually my phone says I have 1.97GB
The rest (11.06 GB) as general storage e.g. music, movies, documents, etc.
Wondering what happened to the other c1MB as I have only accounted for 15GB?
So in settings when I go to 'Storage' it is broken down into 2 sections, 'Device Memory' and 'USB Storage' now I find this screen a little bit confusing. So, is the 'USB Storage' the 11.06GB flash memory I have for general storage and the 'Device Memory' the 2GB (1.97GB) of flash memory for storing apps I download?
I find it strange that my phone says I have 1.97GB device memory (flash memory) total for apps, and my apps seem to be taking up 1.47GB but I only have 228MB available. That doesn't add up?? Even more confusing is the fact that when I try to download a 40MB app I am told 'Can't download to default location'!!
Also do I ever see what the 1GB of RAM is up to on my phone or is this managed secretly by Android?
Thanks for anyone willing to set me straight
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you are a lil bit lucky than me.. my 1.97GB device memory is only used around 0.8GB but the available space is only around 200mb:crying:... and the droid started to give me storage space running out error...
Ram can't be accesed by u that's what your device............
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Yes I guessed that, but when I view RAM stats I get:
604MB used and 260MB free, yet I have 1GB RAM. Does anything add up memory wise on this phone?!
System memory is where your rom and system apps ...
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Again I guessed there was an area reserved for Rocket ROM and the associated system apps, I assume this is called the system partition. And I believe this is 2GB!?
Internal memory is the memory u get with your phone where u can store pics movies files etc and install apps I don't own this device but i doubt that it allocates a section of internal memory for apps
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I seem to have 'device memory' which is some kind of App partition of about 2GB but again its telling me I have over 200MB free but when I try to install another app I am told I have run out of space!?
I also seem to have USB storage which is referring to the remaining general storage partition which is about 11GB which I can't install apps to.
Thank you for trying to answer my query but I'm afraid I'm none the wiser. I though it would be easy to find a Wiki on the device which would explain how the 16GB is partitioned up and used like a memory map but I can't find anything. And the figures don't add up.
Isn't anyone else curious?
Anyone else ain't curious because they use the search tool
But since xda is all about helping eachother, here you go :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667886
All info you seek is in that thread
friedje said:
Anyone else ain't curious because they use the search tool
But since xda is all about helping eachother, here you go :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667886
All info you seek is in that thread
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Okay smart ass let me point out a few things....
I am a complete novice to Unix and how their filesystems are organised but I am trying.
Pointing me to a thread of partition tables with what I presume are hex values that I've never seen before is a bit too low level and confusing.
I am not asking for a programmers spec table for the Note memory just a simple breakdown of partitions, GB/MB sizing and what the purpose of the partition is?
And if you don't know enough to do that then don't bother posting because your not being helpful and your post has as much value as a troll
Actually my post was extremely helpful, and just saved you the bother to search for yourself. However 'mr. smart ass' assumed you had a bit of basic knowledge of the subject, which you just made clear isn't exactly the case.
So to try and tell it disney style :
Your phone has 1Gb of ram, used to run system and apps in realtime.
Android manages it and you can look at what is currently running and
if that makes you happy, even kill processes in taks manager.
Then your phone has flash memory, in general 16Gb, allthough 32Gb
devices exist.
Your Total 16Gb of memory actually has 12 partitions that each have
their proper reason of existence.
Number Size Name
1 21.0MB EFS: Holds device specific info like imei number
2 1311kB SBL1 : 1st bootloader, the devices uses this to boot
3 1311kB SBL2 : 2nd bootloader, see above
4 8389kB PARAM : Forgot what they put inside, guess you will have to read up.
5 8389kB KERNEL : Here goes your Hardware layer, drivers etc....
6 8389kB RECOVERY : here goes the little program to recover your phone when it's messed up
7 210MB CACHE : guess the name says it all
8 16.8MB MODEM : here goes the radio program for voice+data
9 893MB FACTORYFS : here go your android system files
10 2147MB DATAFS : here goes the data for your android system, like your apps
11 11.9GB fat32 UMS : your famous internal storage free to fill with disney movies
12 537MB HIDDEN : space reserved for samsung to put their bloatware
Hope the above is mashed enough to understand
I am missing roughly 3 to 4GB of space on my internal storage. Long story short -- flashed cm11.0_golden.nova.20141127.ODIN_TWRP the first couple of tries it failed mainly due to me not knowing how to enter into recovery mode. After about 4 or 5 tries I figured it out and all was well. Then I notice a large chunk of my internal storage is missing. I enter recovery mode and format all internal storage. I gain a few hundred MB. I cannot see those missing GB of space at all. My best guess is that those first few unsuccessful attempts at flashing the rom are still there in the internal storage taking the space I am missing. Is there any way to repartition the internal storage? I have used all of the methods available to me with TWRP and have had no success in gaining that storage back. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I am missing roughly 3 to 4GB of space on my internal storage. Long story short -- flashed cm11.0_golden.nova.20141127.ODIN_TWRP the first couple of tries it failed mainly due to me not knowing how to enter into recovery mode. After about 4 or 5 tries I figured it out and all was well. Then I notice a large chunk of my internal storage is missing. I enter recovery mode and format all internal storage. I gain a few hundred MB. I cannot see those missing GB of space at all. My best guess is that those first few unsuccessful attempts at flashing the rom are still there in the internal storage taking the space I am missing. Is there any way to repartition the internal storage? I have used all of the methods available to me with TWRP and have had no success in gaining that storage back. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Guessing you have S3 mini soo i have same "issue" it's actually the phone itself takes around 3-4 GB i have usable 4.64 gb and i have 8GB model.
So is this just the normal amount of space taken up by the system? And yes mine is an 8GB model also.
Yes guys it's normal if you have 4GB.
4GB for system and 4GB for user
When i look at how much storage total it lists 4.72GB. For available space it shows 4.27GB. Will the 4GB taken up by the system not be shown? I just figured that it would list close to 8GB total with X amount taken by system. Im pretty sure this is how it was before I flashed the phone.
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When i look at how much storage total it lists 4.72GB. For available space it shows 4.27GB. Will the 4GB taken up by the system not be shown? I just figured that it would list close to 8GB total with X amount taken by system. Im pretty sure this is how it was before I flashed the phone.
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Could it be the missing 4GB is the partition of the system? I am using stock ROM also can only access about 4GB for saving files and apps. Maybe the CM11 itself using 4GB for OS process and pre-installed/bloatware apps? Just my guest.
You can try to reach the missing space using 3rd party apps such as XDA File Manager. BUT, I wont dare to do anything to the 'hidden files', as I know it could damage your system. That's why they made it invisible to normal/average user (like me). Unless you know what and which files to be played with.
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Naimlaaa said:
Could it be the missing 4GB is the partition of the system? I am using stock ROM also can only access about 4GB for saving files and apps. Maybe the CM11 itself using 4GB for OS process and pre-installed/bloatware apps? Just my guest.
You can try to reach the missing space using 3rd party apps such as XDA File Manager. BUT, I wont dare to do anything to the 'hidden files', as I know it could damage your system. That's why they made it invisible to normal/average user (like me). Unless you know what and which files to be played with.
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But, what's the actual space occupied by the system files? We could try to resize "system partition" to gain some gb on "data partition"?
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But, what's the actual space occupied by the system files? We could try to resize "system partition" to gain some gb on "data partition"?
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I'm also interested in repartitioning it, I successfully made it for a Galaxy S2 and my Note N7000... I used a specific pit file flashed with Odin... is there any pit file for GT-I8190 8 Gb? Thanks in advance!
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But, what's the actual space occupied by the system files? We could try to resize "system partition" to gain some gb on "data partition"?
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Im not sure about CM11, but with Slimrom is about 1.23GB. You can see this using Titanium Backup in the overview.
gt-i8190n using SlimKat(Android-Andi) marinated F_Kernel(Fred8861)
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tomnic said:
I'm also interested in repartitioning it, I successfully made it for a Galaxy S2 and my Note N7000... I used a specific pit file flashed with Odin... is there any pit file for GT-I8190 8 Gb? Thanks in advance!
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Hi there. Can you tell me more about partition setting/tweaking. I think i've screwed some of it while playing with terminal command.
gt-i8190n using SlimKat(Android-Andi) marinated F_Kernel(Fred8861)
Hello,
Rooted Kindle 1 and installed KitKat. I am showing 1gb and 5gb storage. I'm assuming these are different partitions of the same drive?
When I go to move apps to external storage using Settings, it says "Move to USB". I've not used KitKat before and am used to it saying "Move to MNT" or similar on previous versions. Is this the same thing? Is it reading the larger storage device (or partition?) as a USB device?
When I do move them to USB, the home page icons disappear on restart. Why?
I'm assuming Android doesn't use a swapfile like Windows does. Is there a way to create one? I see a "ROEHSOFT RAM Expander (SWAP)" but am not sure this is the solution I want simply because I'm not familiar with it.
Is there a way to use the 1gb partition to host the system files and create a swapfile, while using the 5gb partition for apps and storage?
Thank you,
Josh
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Hello,
Rooted Kindle 1 and installed KitKat. I am showing 1gb and 5gb storage. I'm assuming these are different partitions of the same drive?
When I go to move apps to external storage using Settings, it says "Move to USB". I've not used KitKat before and am used to it saying "Move to MNT" or similar on previous versions. Is this the same thing? Is it reading the larger storage device (or partition?) as a USB device?
When I do move them to USB, the home page icons disappear on restart. Why?
I'm assuming Android doesn't use a swapfile like Windows does. Is there a way to create one? I see a "ROEHSOFT RAM Expander (SWAP)" but am not sure this is the solution I want simply because I'm not familiar with it.
Is there a way to use the 1gb partition to host the system files and create a swapfile, while using the 5gb partition for apps and storage?
Thank you,
Josh
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Uh you are in the wrong forum, this is for the 2015 7" fire tablet
ldeveraux said:
Uh you are in the wrong forum, this is for the 2015 7" fire tablet
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Hello,
I was told by the mods that this is where this goes, that it's for all Kindle versions. I have another thread in this forum, as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/help/rooting-kindle-fire-gen-1-help-t3306792
Regards,
Josh
Hi everyone,
I'm having an odd issue with my Kindle Fire. Just some quick background, I was running 5.1.2.1 so I flashed the firmware for 5.1.2 and then used Kingsroot to root. I then used Flashfire to flash my ROM. I'm currently using CM 12.1 that's found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/rom-cm-12-1-2015-11-15-t3249416
So now on to my issue. I set up two users on my tablet, one for my son and one for me. I downloaded a bunch of games for my son including large titles such as Minecraft Story Mode (which is over 1gb). I started to run out of space so I decided to delete some apps. And despite deleting nearly every game on the device, it says I only have about ~500 mb of space left. It barely lets me install new apps (only if they're really small). It's almost as if the apps I deleted never actually got deleted. I went from having like 10 games installed, to not even having the space to download one game. I'm not recovering any of that free space when I delete apps.
I also tried moving some apps to the SD card using the "Apps" menu in settings. It appears that the apps are not moving over to the SD card. I'm just using the native features so I may give an app like Link2SD a try.
So does anyone have any ideas why my storage space just seems to get smaller and smaller? Is there some type of permission that's not letting me fully delete apps? Any help would be appreciated!
I have no idea why your storage space is getting smaller, but I had problems moving apps to the SD card as well. I use Link2SD and that works perfectly. You have to wipe your SD card and then set up a primary FAT32 partition and then a primary Ext4 partition for it to work.
Having the exact same problem. Did you find a solution?
matt11601 said:
Having the exact same problem. Did you find a solution?
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- Space does not just disappear; use one of the umpteen disk space managers in the Play Store to see what's happening and remediate
- Link2SD or similar utility for moving apps to SD card (see previous post)