Hi everyone. I had to share this. I've rooted my Note8 and flashed the official FW a couple of times. and yes it has now Knox 0x1 Varanty Void I flashed the official FW N950FXXU1AQI1 a couple days ago. Today just out of boredom I select the software update. it found an update and installed it!!! My Note8 has the build number N950FXXS1AQK9 now. Can anyone explain to me how is this possible?? I thought a Knox 0x1 phone can't get an OTA update!! :silly:
x-poke said:
Hi everyone. I had to share this. I've rooted my Note8 and flashed the official FW a couple of times. and yes it has now Knox 0x1 Varanty Void I flashed the official FW N950FXXU1AQI1 a couple days ago. Today just out of boredom I select the software update. it found an update and installed it!!! My Note8 has the build number N950FXXS1AQK9 now. Can anyone explain to me how is this possible?? I thought a Knox 0x1 phone can't get an OTA update!! :silly:
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I believe that the OTA updates don't work only when the software status is "custom". Even if Knox is tripped, you can flash full stock software and the phone will be "official" status.
Yes, OTA updates are available when official firmwares installed
x-poke said:
I thought a Knox 0x1 phone can't get an OTA update!! :silly:
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Wrong Knox only effects warranty(in some country's) and Knox related apps. S pay, secure folder etc
Mr.Ash.Man said:
Wrong Knox only effects warranty(in some country's) and Knox related apps. S pay, secure folder etc
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Is there a list of these countries? Also, is Samsung Pay working then?
NicklasFox said:
Is there a list of these countries? Also, is Samsung Pay working then?
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When KNOX is tripped? NO...
OTA updates work trip knox my device s8+ stock flash nougat rom ota update message install system update
NicklasFox said:
Is there a list of these countries? Also, is Samsung Pay working then?
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it depends on local laws regarding warranty.
I know in many European countries having modified software is not enough proof of user error, so regardless of policies they have to honor warranty unless it's specifically a defect caused by software modifications.
so if you delete your imei or bootloader or burn out your CPU with overclocking they can still deny warranty, but they can't deny repairs of known issues(like note 4's motherboard degradation, or note 7 self combustion) just because your device is flagged.
thedicemaster said:
it depends on local laws regarding warranty.
I know in many European countries having modified software is not enough proof of user error, so regardless of policies they have to honor warranty unless it's specifically a defect caused by software modifications.
so if you delete your imei or bootloader or burn out your CPU with overclocking they can still deny warranty, but they can't deny repairs of known issues(like note 4's motherboard degradation, or note 7 self combustion) just because your device is flagged.
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You will have to consider the difference between on one hand warranty, a service that is completely voluntary and not dictated by law and on the other hand different consumer protective laws of the countries.
A company decides the terms of the warranty freely, but what they can not do is to undercut the consumer laws of the country in question. They can give better terms to the consumer, but they will have to honour the conditions of the consumer law.
The difference in most countries is that you will have to handle thing that is not covered by warranty with the SELLER while things covered by warranty can be handled directly with the manufacturers service points.
If Samsung says that the tripped Knox bit voids warranty they are in full right to do this and you will have to demand the seller to replace or repair the phone in this case, unless they can make it probable that the tripped Knox bit caused the problem.
Sadly, many sellers are not even aware of this, so they just refer you to Samsung’s warranty conditions as if only they are applicable to the issue. This is not the case and you will have to read up on your consumer rights and the protection you as a consumer have in your countries laws.
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I called Samsung just to see what kind of a Warranty I have (I'm in the US.) and they asked for my model number so I said, "GT-N7000", and without any other questions I was told I have the Chinese model. Is this right? I bought it off Amazon. I was pretty sure I had to the Polish model because my original firmware is LB1.
N7000 is for International version
I9220 is for China version
I717 is for ATT version
Ha, I guess she had no idea what she was talking about.
cruno91 said:
Ha, I guess she had no idea what she was talking about.
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Typical Americans
xD I kid, I kid
Well, unless you bought a third party warranty for it, being in the U.S., you don't have a warranty.
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freedomispopular said:
Well, unless you bought a third party warranty for it, being in the U.S., you don't have a warranty.
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I don't agree; can you tell me what's the base facts behind this statement?
RbbCHan said:
I don't agree; can you tell me what's the base facts behind this statement?
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Samsung doesn't sell International galaxy note N-7000 in US.US only gets I-717 Galaxy note thru AT&T.And No samsung device has International warranty I guess.So If you own a N7000 in US,No official warranty from samsung.
I bought my N7000 in China ( not the 92xxx) it has an international warranty.
It is explicitly mentioned in the dealers invoice and the attachments.
Only the 92xx doesn't have the international warranty.
I am always insisting on this, as I am living in China but have to spend quite some time in Europe, too. So I want to make sure I do have a chance for repair if something happens.
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I bought my N7000 in China ( not the 92xxx) it has an international warranty.
It is explicitly mentioned in the dealers invoice and the attachments.
Only the 92xx doesn't have the international warranty.
I am always insisting on this, as I am living in China but have to spend quite some time in Europe, too. So I want to make sure I do have a chance for repair if something happens.
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Warranty = training people (service center) on the maintenance of that Model. Why would Samsung spend money in training service personnel in the US if it does not even sell the model.
International warranty is something that Samsung never honors on its phone. If you bought the phone with international warranty it means either the warranty is provided by a third party or you have been cheated by the seller
Indeed buy an iphone if you want international warranty
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Hi Everyone,
I'm wondering to root my Tab S2, but the device is on warranty and has some months.
I searched on the internet to see if rooting the device voids the warranty, and, acording to the Directive 1999/44/CE dictates ( In europe (I live in Portugal) ) I can root and the warranty is not lost.
Then, I called to the Samsung costumer support to get more info about it and they told me that if I root my tablet, I lose the warranty.
So, do I lose or not the warranty, and why?
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Hi Everyone,
I'm wondering to root my Tab S2, but the device is on warranty and has some months.
I searched on the internet to see if rooting the device voids the warranty, and, acording to the Directive 1999/44/CE dictates ( In europe (I live in Portugal) ) I can root and the warranty is not lost.
Then, I called to the Samsung costumer support to get more info about it and they told me that if I root my tablet, I lose the warranty.
So, do I lose or not the warranty, and why?
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I'm sure they have to obey the rules and laws of the country they operate in and sell the device in.
Any repair centre is still bound by the legislation and laws of the country it operates in.
They would have to prove that rooting caused the issue for the warranty claim.
Regardless of what they say. I would ask them why they are prepared to disregard European law and legislation and on what grounds?
Good morning all,
I've just discovered this wonderful forum and the world of android modding/rooting etc. I am looking to purchase the following model SM-N960FZKHBTU direct from Samsung in the United Kingdom. I am assuming and hoping I will get the Exynos cpu? Please could some inform me if I buy direct from Samsung can I remove a lot of the bloat apps without rooting? Stuff like Facebook and heavily embedded apps? I don't want to root initial incase I wish to take part in the upgrade program, where one of the conditions of the ToS must be Knox not being tripped.
Please could anyone from the UK share their experiences.
Many thanks for taking the time to read this.
If you purchase your Note 9 directly from Samsung UK. You are guaranteed to get the Exynos variant. However you will not be able to remove any of the Samsung Bloatware without tripping Knox after you have rooted your device. Also rooting your device will void your warranty.
Quick question, hope somebody more knowledgeable can help.
First of all, I come from the land of Nexus and Pixels, where unlocked bootloaders and rooting are fairly common. Recently, I've grown tired of having subpar hardware and some software choices made by Google, so the S10 family has finally caught my eye. However, all this chat about Knox, CSC, regional variants, dual SIMs, etc, etc, has got me fairly confused, even after hours of reading the S8, S9 and S10 XDA forums. So here are some questions:
1. Does rooting a Samsung phone always trip Knox? The thing is, I would very much like to root my future S10, but I'm fairly excited about Samsung Pay. Also, I don't want to permanently trip a fuse. I understand there's no going back after tripping Knox.
2. Can Magisk Hide help with Knox and Samsung Pay?
3. Can anybody confirm whether the Snapdragon Hong Kong version has an unlocked bootloader? I know Exynos can be rooted, but Gcam is a MUST for me. So this becomes a matter of choosing between the US version (U1), or the Hong Kong version (0). Furthermore, if root for HK version becomes possible, will it trip Knox and lose Samsung Pay? Basically, I don't see the point of getting the unlocked bootloader version if Knox will be tripped anyway. At that point I might as well get the US version and keep it unrooted.
From my limited knowledge, rooting will trip Knox, magisk hide will hide the root from certain apps but once you root say goodbye to Samsung pay.
Not only rooting triggers knox, it triggers knox too if you flash an samsung unsinged recovery like twrp, or a custom kernel etc. It seems, if you compile a kernel from source without any modification(stock alike), it triggers knox too. So not only the rooting process triggers knox.
Hi I found on ebay for a really good price Samsung N960F but the seller says it's only problem with the phone is that it has Knox Warranty Void 1. It's major problem or you can live with that? Thanks for your help
I think a more pertinent question is can you live with that.
It shouldn't hurt performance of the phone.
It will likely only void any warranty.
I believe that the F mark is rootable. That's likely how Knox got tripped.
If Knox is tripped all payment apps cease to work.
Snowby123 said:
If Knox is tripped all payment apps cease to work.
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Also the Secure Folder and Samsung Health would be disabled on your device once Knox is tripped. That said if you can live without those, then yeah the Note 9 is worth the money. I purchased the N960N Special Edition 512GB model and I love it.