MMS - Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact Questions & Answers

Hello, I've been using this device for several months now, just realized I don't have mms. The SMS app is Android messages and it's missing the option in settings to switch to mms. It's the international variant, using it on T-Mobile in the states. Anyone else notice/find a solution to this? If this is already discussed, please point me in the right direction.

I can see the 'add photo' seems to be missing from the messaging app.
But you can still go into the gallery and share via messaging, choose you contact and then it's ready to send.

Didgesteve said:
I can see the 'add photo' seems to be missing from the messaging app.
But you can still go into the gallery and share via messaging, choose you contact and then it's ready to send.
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Just click the + sign at the left hand side of the text input box.
Then you get all kinds of options for MMS messages.

Yes, lots of options. But not mms. I can start group conversation, and then add multiple ppl, but they get mass SMS, which is not mms. Individuals receive txt from me but not a group conversation mms.
Can you confirm that you have intl version on T-Mobile and also have mms option?

Seriously, no one else has this issue?

flintfirewalker said:
Seriously, no one else has this issue?
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The + sign to the left of the area where you enter text in a text message opens up a dialog with many different options. If you select a picture, then the message type changes to MMS for that particular response. This is the USA firmware on an AT&T MVNO. Don't know about any other firmware variant.

Hmmm, so this must be due to the fact that I have intl firmware (which I kept to use finger print sensor). When I click on the + sign, I can choose every option except for mms.
In the settings, advanced, there's no option to toggle mms on (my friends on various devices using Google messages have this option.) Very strange.

flintfirewalker said:
Hmmm, so this must be due to the fact that I have intl firmware (which I kept to use finger print sensor). When I click on the + sign, I can choose every option except for mms.
In the settings, advanced, there's no option to toggle mms on (my friends on various devices using Google messages have this option.) Very strange.
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Which region firmware are you using?
The reason I ask is because the OEM partition contains overlay APKs which control access to a number of features.
MMS/SMS is controlled by the "com.android.carrierconfig-res-305.apk" which has config options like:
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<boolean name="enabledMMS" value="true" />
<boolean name="groupChatDefaultsToMMS" value="true" />
<boolean name="enableGroupMms" value="true" />
It's possible that the values in your region are set to "false".
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I'm using the UK firmware with the US OEM sin because I want fingerprint AND T-Mo VoLTE.

Try a different text app like Textra. If that has the same problem, then you know it is something wrong with the phone.

My version must be Taiwan or HK, it was in Chinese when I first turned it on (so glad my colleague knew how to read and change the language immediately).

I have noticed that I am unable to send group messages, but only if there is an attached image. Anyone else?

Confirmation: If I use USA firmware, I have true Group messaging option with all messages going to all parties. Also can send image to group. If non-USA firmware, I have only Mass-text message, which is one initial broadcast to group (with no option to include images), and all subsequent messages in thread are only one-to-one.
Standard messaging to single party is fine regardless of firmware; can include images, etc.
Hope this clears up any lingering doubts.

pseudonym58 said:
Confirmation: If I use USA firmware, I have true Group messaging option with all messages going to all parties. Also can send image to group. If non-USA firmware, I have only Mass-text message, which is one initial broadcast to group (with no option to include images), and all subsequent messages in thread are only one-to-one.
Standard messaging to single party is fine regardless of firmware; can include images, etc.
Hope this clears up any lingering doubts.
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Okay... I received my XZ1C this weekend and this is one thing I am struggling with: can't figure out how to enable Group MMS.
I do have the International Firmware with fingerprinting ( :victory: ) but I also need the MMS Group Messaging.
Any chance that this is related to AT&T ? Some posts about saying the carrier controls this. Any truth in this?
What is the final word on this? How to enable the group messaging?
Running XZ1X with Android 8.0.0 and latest updates from Sony.

I'm not sure, but I do use AT&T as carrier (through Consumer Cellular MVO).

OldSkewler said:
Okay... I received my XZ1C this weekend and this is one thing I am struggling with: can't figure out how to enable Group MMS.
I do have the International Firmware with fingerprinting ( :victory: ) but I also need the MMS Group Messaging.
Any chance that this is related to AT&T ? Some posts about saying the carrier controls this. Any truth in this?
What is the final word on this? How to enable the group messaging?
Running XZ1X with Android 8.0.0 and latest updates from Sony.
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Just press the '+' in the bottom right corner of the screen then 'start group converastion' on the next page.

Didgesteve said:
Just press the '+' in the bottom right corner of the screen then 'start group converastion' on the next page.
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This creates a "group" message which sends individual SMS texts to each participant in the group. It says right in the message body, just as described by the OP in the first page.
What we are not seeing, is the option to send group MMS messages.
Anyone with International Firmware able to verify if they have Group MMS messages?

OldSkewler said:
Anyone with International Firmware able to verify if they have Group MMS messages?
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We are talking about the stock Messages app, right?
I have a setting in the overflow menu > Advanced > Group Messaging, to switch between chat mode and mass text.
How about trying another messaging app? Textra has a similar setting.

BetaLyte said:
We are talking about the stock Messages app, right?
I have a setting in the overflow menu > Advanced > Group Messaging, to switch between chat mode and mass text.
How about trying another messaging app? Textra has a similar setting.
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Yes, I am talking about the stock Messages app, which on my previous Z5 Compact, was a Sony app and now on the XZ1C seems to be a Google app.
And I would like to have this working on the stock app instead of adding yet another app to patch things that should be working but are not.

It appears that you might have to choose between the fingerprint sensor (non-USA) and the ability to use full group messaging (USA only?). This also assumes that you use AT&T, or an MVO on AT&T towers, unless other carriers in the besides AT&T (in the USA) also have full group messaging enabled. Perhaps another XZ1C firmware variant has the best of both worlds?

pbarrette said:
MMS/SMS is controlled by the "com.android.carrierconfig-res-305.apk" which has config options like:
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<boolean name="enabledMMS" value="true" /><boolean name="groupChatDefaultsToMMS" value="true" /><boolean name="enableGroupMms" value="true" />
It's possible that the values in your region are set to "false".
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Ok, enuff time without mms.
How do I edit the apk mentioned above?

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MMS?

I've asked this a couple other places, with no success yet...
What does it take to do MMS on one of these things? I've had Arcsoft MMS Composer suggested many times, but FINDING the thing has been impossible. Arcsoft goes on about it at length on their website, mostly about how various mobile providers are bundling it... but mine (Telus) isn't. They don't have a trial download, they don't list it in their store, they don't list anyone who sells it, and they don't even list a price (MSRP or otherwise).
So, does anyone know where I can find this thing? I don't mind paying (a reasonable amount) for a legitimate copy, IF I could find it!
Or suggest something else that might work...?
Thanks.
I know nothing about MMS. But I may have two leads.
I was just looking in a thread about YouTube on the S730, and followed the instructions to install support for it. I think ended up with support for MMS. TCPMP may come with it. If not, the flash plugin may add support. Both are available at www.ytpocket.com. A link on the home page provides tools and instructions for installing both. Free.
As I was composing this note, I checked the file association settings for CoreCodeC. They include MMS. Not free.
Hmm, not sure if we're talking about the same thing. I'm talking about Multimedia Messaging Service - aka Picture Messaging, as opposed to just Text Messaging (SMS). In other words, the ability to "text" someone's phone with an attached picture.
This doesn't appear to have anything to do with that, but I tried it anyway, just for giggles... didn't make any difference to my problem.
Thanks anyway though, it'll be neat having YouTube on my phone
I'm not sure what you are getting at? MMS support is built into the phone? You just go to Message > New > MMS ??
That's the way it should work. With the old standard phones (my RAZR, my V710, my wife's LG, my Treo 650) you can just snap a pic with the camera, go "Send picture", and enter a contact, and it sends straight to their phone, same as you would a text message.
Windows Mobile 5 included this function. 6 apparently doesn't. There's a third-party app that some providers have chosen to include to provide the functionality, but Telus isn't one of them.
WM6 does after all I'm using WM6 and it's in my phone. It looks like that for whatever strange reason your firmware has removed that option.
From what I've been able to determine, MMS support *is not* native to WM6, at least not Standard version. WM6S phones that have it, are generally using Arcsoft MMS Composer, as bundled into the OS by the specific wireless carrier.
This, at least, is the best information I've been able to come up with between this forum and a few others.
Soundy106 said:
Hmm, not sure if we're talking about the same thing. I'm talking about Multimedia Messaging Service - aka Picture Messaging, as opposed to just Text Messaging (SMS). In other words, the ability to "text" someone's phone with an attached picture.
This doesn't appear to have anything to do with that, but I tried it anyway, just for giggles... didn't make any difference to my problem.
Thanks anyway though, it'll be neat having YouTube on my phone
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I just started the photo app, chose album, selected a picture, chose "Send via MMS" from the menu, and saw a dialog that sure seemed to let me compose a message. I didn't check whether it really did. All this on an HTC S730 (WM 6).
Hmm, alright, mine doesn't quite do that... it has a Send option that lets me select a mail account to use, and Text Message is grayed out.
Apparently though, that's something that's common to almost all HTC phones except those that Telus provides

Is it possible to add mms support

I did a quick search on this but couldn't find it. Anyway is it possible to add mms to your phone? I currently have to goto the providers website and view to photos and most time that site doesn't work. So i was just wondering if there is a way of adding this. I don't know much about this stuff so no need to point and laugh if it isn't possible.
well, yes. depends on your carrier.
it is telus
I realy don't understand your question.
The diamond has MMS support.
Are you asking for the settings for your provider?
TDO
ok so then whenever someone sends me a text with a picture or a video i have to log onto the website to view those pictures or videos. My question is just like most flip phones that get them sent directly to their phone is it possible to do that aswell with a smart phone. I only had this phone and a blackberry and they are both the same in that i have to log into the telus website to view any texts sent to me with media attached to them. also i have to email people my photos instead of just texting them which i also hate.
it will get directly to your phone if the mms settings are correct setup with the
settings from your provider
I had the same problem (using T-Mobile UK), all I got was a text message with a URL to T-Mobile's site.
To fix it, just send an MMS to yourself! For some reason, you need to send an MMS before you can receive one (at least that was the case with T-Mobile).
Try it and see if this fixes your problem.
yea for me it was the same,
i called tmobile why its so scarry, they told me that they need to know if your device supports MMS and the best way is to see an mms coming from your device so they can be sure that u are working on an mms enabled device.
greets

AT&T Moto X Group Messaging?

I took a look at an AT&T Moto X demo model today and noticed in the settings for messaging, there was no "group text" option... can someone confirm that this phone can send/receive group text threads (like iOS and even Blackberry)? I thought this was baked into the 4.2.2 code from Google, but I would like to know for sure.
Thanks!
have a look over here on the Motorola forums. Apparently the Group option should be there but a few have not been able to find it in their settings.
I believe if you start to add multiple recipients it switches to group mms.
ShamanicEnzan said:
I believe if you start to add multiple recipients it switches to group mms.
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actually if you read that thread over at Moto Forums the option for Group Messages is in the settings as it should be giving you the option to covert to MMS and reply to all etc... however a few people are reporting like the OP and the X he looked at that the option for some reason is just not there at all.
there are screenshots in that thread showing what it should look like and what a few people have seen where the option just doesnt exist in their settings.
fletch33 said:
actually if you read that thread over at Moto Forums the option for Group Messages is in the settings as it should be giving you the option to covert to MMS and reply to all etc... however a few people are reporting like the OP and the X he looked at that the option for some reason is just not there at all.
there are screenshots in that thread showing what it should look like and what a few people have seen where the option just doesnt exist in their settings.
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This is what I have, let me know what should be there.
ShamanicEnzan said:
This is what I have, let me know what should be there.
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you have the option for group messaging and i believe that is what a few have reported not having.
fletch33 said:
you have the option for group messaging and i believe that is what a few have reported not having.
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It won't show up if AT&T has incorrectly provisioned you SIM card. If the SIM isn't programmed with your phone number, the phone won't display the Group MMS option. I was having this error before and a SIM swap at an AT&T store fixed it.
mandrsn1 said:
It won't show up if AT&T has incorrectly provisioned you SIM card. If the SIM isn't programmed with your phone number, the phone won't display the Group MMS option. I was having this error before and a SIM swap at an AT&T store fixed it.
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thanks for the info
ShamanicEnzan said:
This is what I have, let me know what should be there.
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Yeah, that's what I was expecting to see, but didn't on the display phone at Costco.
mandrsn1 said:
It won't show up if AT&T has incorrectly provisioned you SIM card. If the SIM isn't programmed with your phone number, the phone won't display the Group MMS option. I was having this error before and a SIM swap at an AT&T store fixed it.
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That would make sense since the display phone is probably not completely provisioned...
Thanks for answering my question!

"Group Messaging" option missing

I have a P10 that was originally branded to a Canadian provider (VTR-L09C557B312) and the "Group messaging" option from the "Messaging App -> More -> Setttings -> Advanced" menu. I assumed that this option missing was a result of the branding so I rebranded the phone to VTR-L29C432B179 in the hopes that this brand would have the option (while also getting access to the Dual Sim functionality that was missing).
The rebrand was successful, but unfortunately the "Group Messaging" option is still missing. I realize there are other apps (Textra, etc) but the group messaging didn't work with those either.
I have an Honor 8 (FRD-L04C567B389) that has the option and it works perfectly. Does anyone have the group messaging option on their phone? If so, what Build number are you running?
Don't know if it's exactly what you mean, but there is an option to choose multiple contacts.
Start a new message and in the right top corner tap the contact icon. Then you can select multiple contacts.
djg269 said:
Don't know if it's exactly what you mean, but there is an option to choose multiple contacts.
Start a new message and in the right top corner tap the contact icon. Then you can select multiple contacts.
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Thanx for the reply but that's not actually what I'm referring to.
In the default messaging app, under the More -> Setttings -> Advanced" menu there is a "Group Messaging" option (see attached image1). Under this option there are two settings to choose from (see attached image2). The first option is "Send SMS to all recipients, and receive individual replies (group SMS)". This option is the default behavior for the phone. The second option is "Send MMS to all recipients (group MMS). This is the option I would like to set. The group MMS option keeps the messages from all participants in the conversation in a single thread. The default actions sends the messages individually to each person so all the replies are individual as well and not part of the group.
The attached screenshots are from my Huawei Honor 8. From reading online the menu option exists on various (all??) Huawei models (Honor, Mate, etc), but I haven't been able to find the option on the P10.
If u click icon top right u can choose a lot of send options
berka38 said:
If u click icon top right u can choose a lot of send options
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Sorry, which icon is that? The "person" icon? That allows me to add multiple people, choose groups etc. but doesn't allow me to send the message as a group MMS. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding which icon you're referring to?
Ok I gonna try send a group MMS the SMS can send to multiple contact
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Yes it works to send group MMS to for me
berka38 said:
Ok I gonna try send a group MMS the SMS can send to multiple contact
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Yes it works to send group MMS to for me
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Really? Do you have the Group Messaging setting I mentioned in the original post? What build number is your phone running?
I've emailed Huawei support about the "Group Messaging" option and am waiting to hear back. Does anyone have this option? If not, does group MMS work for you?
Group messages solution
I faced same problem and solution is a app called Go SMS pro
eribs4e said:
Thanx for the reply but that's not actually what I'm referring to.
In the default messaging app, under the More -> Setttings -> Advanced" menu there is a "Group Messaging" option (see attached image1). Under this option there are two settings to choose from (see attached image2). The first option is "Send SMS to all recipients, and receive individual replies (group SMS)". This option is the default behavior for the phone. The second option is "Send MMS to all recipients (group MMS). This is the option I would like to set. The group MMS option keeps the messages from all participants in the conversation in a single thread. The default actions sends the messages individually to each person so all the replies are individual as well and not part of the group.
The attached screenshots are from my Huawei Honor 8. From reading online the menu option exists on various (all??) Huawei models (Honor, Mate, etc), but I haven't been able to find the option on the P10.
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I see your screen shot and Huawei tells me same thing to do but I don't have that option and I don't know what to do. I tried downloading different SMS apps but still messages are not send or receive in group. I can send and receive individual message. Please someone advice.

Question How to get +1 to stop showing up on phone numbers from text messages.

I am having a interesting issue with my phone that I cannot figure out. When I receive a text message the system adds a +1 to the start of the phone number it is coming from, I am using the Samsung Messages application but this does the same thing apparently with the Google SMS app and the Verizon messenger app (as I have\ tried these as well), this only happens with a text and if I get a phone call or look in the address book no numbers have a +1.
The reason this is an issue is because my car imports my phonebook as it appears in the contacts and when I get a text it comes up as Unknown Caller because of the added +1 but phone calls do not have the +1 so they show up just fine.
While working on this I have discovered that if I go to the text by going to my contacts then clicking on the persons name it will remove the +1 and it will stay removed as I text them but the second I get texted back the +1 is added. I called Verizon eventually and was told reset settings, reset network settings, turn off assisted dialing. None of these work and there next solution was to factory reset, I don't think this will help because it isn't just my phone but my wife and son who also got the same phone have the same thing happen.
Has anyone experienced this and know how to fix it. I have been through all the phone and dev settings looking for something. I cannot find any other threads online for this except for a couple from AT&T users from different samsung phones years ago with no answer. Previous to this we were using Note 9's and did not have this issue. Any help is appreciated.
edit: The phone is not rooted or modded and is on Android 11 One UI 3.1, sorry forgot to add that.
I think it's under: Settings -> Call Settings -> Other call settings -> Roaming assistance
rufus15 said:
I think it's under: Settings -> Call Settings -> Other call settings -> Roaming assistance
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That is assisted dialing I turned off already and it didn't affect it. It's also just on text messages phone functions don't have this happen for some reason.
The +1 is your coumtry code prefix (USA).
While you can change this in your messaging app you can't change it from eveyone else's phone.
From using it in your car radio might be somethng in your car settings or else in your contact list add the +1 to all your contacts.
spawnlives said:
The +1 is your coumtry code prefix (USA).
While you can change this in your messaging app you can't change it from eveyone else's phone.
From using it in your car radio might be somethng in your car settings or else in your contact list add the +1 to all your contacts.
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I understand that the +1 is the country code.
It isn't from other people's phones it is the way the Ultra is handling the information when it comes to text messaging. I did the following test. I removed my son as a contact in my phone and called my phone from his. The phone number shows up as (xxx) xxx-xxxx. I then sent a text message to myself from his phone while he still was not in my contacts. I have 3 different text applications on my phone right now for testing purposes (default Samsung, Google's SMS app, and Verizon Messeages) and all 3 shows the phone number as +1 (xxx) xxx-xxxx.
The car isn't adding the the +1 to contacts, when my phonebook syncs to the car and I go into it the phonebook on my cars display they show the same as in my contacts "Contacts Name" (xxx) xxx-xxxx but when a text comes in it shows Unknown +1 (xxx) xxx-xxxx.
The issue solely lies with text messages being received on the S21 Ultra as this happens when people on Apple phones or Android phones (multiple brands) text me.
In regards to text messaging in general, i live not far from you ( about 9500 miles ) and I have a different device then yours. Receiving text messages from someone in my contacts list shows up contact name. Receiving other text message not in my contact list will show as country code and phone number. There are exceptions to this in regards to texts from government agencies and google which will show up who are not in my contacts list. I think texts messaging work around the international standard ie: country code + phone number while phone calls may not (unless making international calls). So i don't think it's device specific as it more to do with the networks that you connect to.
In regards to talking to you car ( text wise ) i may be of little help as i don't have a android 11 device and a car to talk to.
Since your note 9 works, and as far as i know latest version is android 10, it could be an issue with android 11. From your test using your son's phone have tried to add the +1 to his number to your phone and see if it's make a difference.

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