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I haven't watched the youtube video, but this is promising. I might consider getting an extended warranty for only 19 bucks for this thing!
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I guess 19 is for the 200 version. I got the 16 gig version and the warranty is 27 bucks.
I saw that too but the guy was a little biased. He didn't show the damage the nexus 7 took at the top right corner when they slipped it off the sidewall
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You realize that that was a commercial for SquareTrade, right?
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You realize that that was a commercial for SquareTrade, right?
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After watching the video, yes, I do realize that.
It wasn't entirely scientific, but did give the impression that the iPad is far more vulnerable to impacts on the edge and corners. Probably a result of having the glass bezel go all the way to the outer edge as opposed to the thin trim present on the Nexus.
>It wasn't entirely scientific, but did give the impression that the iPad is far more vulnerable to impacts on the edge and corners
The results are irrelevant. The video's purpose is to heighten your sensitivity to drops and water damage, and conveniently includes a link to remove those fears (at only nominal cost, of course).
Of course the iPad is more vulnerable. It has more mass, which means greater impact from a drop. Its metallic back also has less give than N7's rubber back.
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The results are irrelevant. The video's purpose is to heighten your sensitivity to drops and water damage, and conveniently includes a link to remove those fears (at only nominal cost, of course).
Of course the iPad is more vulnerable. It has more mass, which means greater impact from a drop. Its metallic back also has less give than N7's rubber back.
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This video's purpose was irrelevant. Of course they're trying to sell insurance, so what? The difference between them has little to do with the mass, a 100g sheet of glass will crack when dropped on its edge just like a 200g sheet will. But differences in the design channel the force of impact in different directions, and it seems that on the iPad a lot of that force goes into the glass because it's more exposed. It's perfectly possible to design a rigid metal shell that would absorb more of the impact and deform in a way that wouldn't crack the glass, but that might not be as aesthetically pleasing.
>Of course they're trying to sell insurance, so what?
So it's rather inane to think that the drop comparisons mean anything, which they don't. The drops as already mentioned weren't controlled, which relegate the ensuing damage to random chance. You can play what-if games all you like, but none of your suppositions are reflected in the video.
Your protestations of "possibly" differing construction notwithstanding, it's a rather basic law of physics that a heavier object when dropped will result in a larger impact than a lighter object, c.p. Perhaps iPad is made of sturdier design, but you won't know from this video, or from empty pontifications.
50 Bucks if you want the ADH on the 16gb not to bad...Will be getting it for my wife when I buy her one.
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I saw that too but the guy was a little biased. He didn't show the damage the nexus 7 took at the top right corner when they slipped it off the sidewall
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Noticed that myself: 1:14 "Glass looks okay....." ( edit out screwed up corner ) "Back looks pretty good."
Still its good to hear if I drop this once there is a chance it won't shatter the screen, like every other non-ipad device.
16 Gig is actually 29.99 not 27
I bought my warranty last night. It was 39.99 for 2yrs plus accidental for my 16 gig
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>Of course they're trying to sell insurance, so what?
So it's rather inane to think that the drop comparisons mean anything, which they don't. The drops as already mentioned weren't controlled, which relegate the ensuing damage to random chance. You can play what-if games all you like, but none of your suppositions are reflected in the video.
Your protestations of "possibly" differing construction notwithstanding, it's a rather basic law of physics that a heavier object when dropped will result in a larger impact than a lighter object, c.p. Perhaps iPad is made of sturdier design, but you won't know from this video, or from empty pontifications.
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I'll leave the pontifications to you, you seem quite good at them.
If their aim was just to sell insurance they'd have biased the drops to show the Nexus 7 taking more damage in the hopes of frightening all those new Nexus owners. Obviously. The same people (squaretrade) posted a video a while ago showing that simply attaching a smart cover to an iPad might protect the glass from cracking. (because it will alter the force distribution). Why did they tell people to go and buy a cover instead of buying their insurance?
And there's no 'possible' about it - the construction of the iPad is radically different to the Nexus 7. The iPad is heavier, but most of the difference in weight is due to the larger battery, what matters is the way the glass is mounted (and the actual composition of the glass, which can alter its resistance to breakage by as much as three times).
No-one ever claimed these tests were scientific or controlled, don't know why you're getting your panties in a twist over that.
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I'll leave the pontifications to you, you seem quite good at them.
If their aim was just to sell insurance they'd have biased the drops to show the Nexus 7 taking more damage in the hopes of frightening all those new Nexus owners. Obviously. The same people (squaretrade) posted a video a while ago showing that simply attaching a smart cover to an iPad might protect the glass from cracking. (because it will alter the force distribution). Why did they tell people to go and buy a cover instead of buying their insurance?
And there's no 'possible' about it - the construction of the iPad is radically different to the Nexus 7. The iPad is heavier, but most of the difference in weight is due to the larger battery, what matters is the way the glass is mounted (and the actual composition of the glass, which can alter its resistance to breakage by as much as three times).
No-one ever claimed these tests were scientific or controlled, don't know why you're getting your panties in a twist over that.
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If the "true" purpose of the video is to sell more insurance (only they know for sure) then they most certainly did the right thing by making the iPad look more fragile. Reason being, despite the N7 being a new tablet, the iPad currently have the most market share compared to the N7, and the iPad costs more so there's a higher chance people would want to insure their $500 iPad than their $250 N7.
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16 Gig is actually 29.99 not 27
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I had the price quote based on $250, and not for the total price I paid including tax and shipping. My quote was 26.99.
But just based on pure physics, F=m*a, so of course the Ipad will hit with more force than the n7.
When I went to the check out part, apparently the coverage for accidental drops and whatnot is not included in that warranty. Its an extra $33. But no deductible. I wish I would have known about this place a few weeks ago
>If their aim was just to sell insurance they'd have biased the drops to show the Nexus 7 taking more damage in the hopes of frightening all those new Nexus owners. Obviously.
My, such certitude. It must be nice to know everything.
I'm not blessed with such gifts, but taking this thread as a microcosm, then there apparently is no need to "frighten" the viewers to secure the desired response. Of the 8 people with replies in this thread, two have responded they will be buying a policy, one has looked up pricing (which is halfway there). One has already bought, so we'll exclude him.
The sample size is admittedly small, but two, possibly three, out of 7 is a wonderful conversion rate for an advertisement.
I'll leave my credentials at the door, but I would posit that there is no need to "scare" people. It's enough to heighten their sensitivity to effect the desired behavior.
Additionally, given that this material is directed at the geek set (who tend to be more fanboys than not), then positioning the N7 as the "winner" would more likely secure a favorable reception than if the N7 had come out the "loser." Per selective input, we tend to filter out material we disagree with. HEY, WE KNOW ANDROID AND NEXUS 7 RULE, RIGHT? AND HERE'S YET MORE PROOF. Indeed, some had mentioned of bias in assessing N7's damage.
Yes, the above are suppositions. But they're supported with evidence and reasoning, rather than hot air.
>Why did they tell people to go and buy a cover instead of buying their insurance?
Because that would make it obvious that it's an advertisement. Adverts are most effective when you don't think of them as adverts. Per above, you don't need to hit people on the head with a hammer. A nudge usually works better.
>If the "true" purpose of the video is to sell more insurance (only they know for sure) then they most certainly did the right thing by making the iPad look more fragile.
Actually, no. The target audience for this advert is mainly N7 owners. It's a common tendency for people to check for reviews and comparisons of their new purchases AFTER they buy, to look for affirmation of their choice.
Another tendency is that people are most receptive to buying a policy immediately before or after their main purchase, ie N7 owners at this point. If you've already had your tablet for a while, then you are less likely to buy a policy.
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I'll leave my credentials at the door, but I would posit that there is no need to "scare" people. It's enough to heighten their sensitivity to effect the desired behavior.
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You have credentials? You mean you work in insurance?
It certainly makes sense to capitalise on the popularity of geek-toy-destruction videos and provide something amusing that will get your name in front of people. But it seems an extremely arcane piece of reverse-psychology to purposely rig the results to show tablets surviving all sorts of damage unscathed and claim that will make people want to buy insurance. Why bother buying protection from water damage when you can drop a Nexus 7 in the bath and it'll still work fine? (Er, I really hope no-one actually believes that's OK.)
While I'd agree that people who've just bought a shiny new toy are far more likely to approve of a video that shows said toy beating the competition, wouldn't it make sense to show it suffering some damage? 'Yeah, the Nexus 7 is far tougher than the crappy old iPad, but hey, it can still get a bit dinged up. Don't you want the peace-of-mind that comes with an insurance policy?' Instead, we see people complaining that they're actually trying to hide some minor damage on the Nexus.
I think you're massively over-thinking this. All they wanted to do was make a video people would be interested in watching, so they went outside and filmed themselves dropping a couple of tablets. And that's all there is to it. The iPad's highly-rigid design means it doesn't suffer the issues with screen-lift or creaking that some people are reporting, and the lack of a trim-strip gives it a slightly cleaner line, but it also means it's more vulnerable to impacts - not really surprising.
>But it seems an extremely arcane piece of reverse-psychology to purposely rig the results to show tablets surviving all sorts of damage unscathed and claim that will make people want to buy insurance.
You must have seen a different video than I did.
>All they wanted to do was make a video people would be interested in watching, so they went outside and filmed themselves dropping a couple of tablets. And that's all there is to it.
Why yes of course that's all it is. I'm sure they're just a bunch of fun-loving guys.
>iPad's highly-rigid design means it doesn't suffer the issues with screen-lift or creaking that some people are reporting,
Novel interpretation. Here's a more mundane one: iPad has better build quality.
Hello all!
I've been very pleased with my new Nexus so far, but yesterday I noticed the back cover was loose and and had a bit of a gap near the volume buttons. Some quick googling informed me this was a known issue, and is easily RMA'd. I have also discovered there are some very nice skins from Slickwraps and from Toast which can be used in place of the back cover. I find these to be very beautiful, and will most likely use one. Knowing this, is there any useful reason to send my phone in to be replaced? Has anyone discovered a flawed battery causing the cover to lift? If so, was it obvious before removing the cover?
I would be afraid that if I didn't get the phone replaced, it would leak if you ever got around water. I think I would send it back because if you ever decide to sell it you won't get much for a phone that doesn't have a tight fitting backup cover.
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I would be afraid that if I didn't get the phone replaced, it would leak if you ever got around water. I think I would send it back because if you ever decide to sell it you won't get much for a phone that doesn't have a tight fitting backup cover.
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Those are both good points, but they are somewhat nullified by my plans. I'm going to be removing the back cover to use an aftermarket back. I will, of course, be fully responsible for protecting it from water, and for the damage if I don't. I tend to treat any device, water resistant or not, as if it were the Wicked Witch of the West and will melt upon contact with a drop of water. I also don't sell my old phones. They are way to useful to keep around for projects and such. I still have a couple of Blackberry Storms acting as desk clocks and a Galaxy Nexus doing tattle-tail duty for my home alarm system.
Basically what I'm looking for is any indication as to an actual malfunction being the cause of the back coming unstuck. As it stands, the loose back is a head start on getting it off for an aftermarket.
I say go for it as long as the new back cover fits tight. I am a snob about having a perfect phone.
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Most the skins cover the back cover so need an intact backcover or have the same problem. Will see when remove back cover if it is battery related but then most likely can't RMA as you opened the device. It a catch 22 situation.
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Most the skins cover the back cover so need an intact backcover or have the same problem. Will see when remove back cover if it is battery related but then most likely can't RMA as you opened the device. It a catch 22 situation.
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I'm looking at the wooden covers. They're a bit thicker then the vinyl skins, and can sit flush with the frame when used without the back. They're rigid enough to do the job, though not advertised as backs, folk are reporting having success.
I am tempted to open it up and have a peek at the battery, but doing so would definitely void the warranty. That's why I was looking for any examples where a battery actually has gone bad. Though, it looks like the battery is pretty simple to replace anyway...
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I'm looking at the wooden covers. They're a bit thicker then the vinyl skins, and can sit flush with the frame when used without the back. They're rigid enough to do the job, though not advertised as backs, folk are reporting having success.
I am tempted to open it up and have a peek at the battery, but doing so would definitely void the warranty. That's why I was looking for any examples where a battery actually has gone bad. Though, it looks like the battery is pretty simple to replace anyway...
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Usually swells up in the middle and starts raising the back at the mid points.
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Usually swells up in the middle and starts raising the back at the mid points.
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Does it feel swollen? Can you tell by eye? The only ones I've witnessed having a dying battery had removable battery covers, like the Storm and the old Razr flip phones. My cover is only loose on one edge, and feels very firmly stuck the rest of the way around. The phone itself is functioning beautifully, not at all like the few I've seen the the grow-a-battery of death. They usually sputtered and gave up until I replaced the battery.
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Does it feel swollen? Can you tell by eye? The only ones I've witnessed having a dying battery had removable battery covers, like the Storm and the old Razr flip phones. My cover is only loose on one edge, and feels very firmly stuck the rest of the way around. The phone itself is functioning beautifully, not at all like the few I've seen the the grow-a-battery of death. They usually sputtered and gave up until I replaced the battery.
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If it's the battery will do the same. Will start acting up and then die. There is a thread somewhere in General I think with pics of expanding battery. Some just the backs come unglued. It is definitely a RMA situation anyway.
I need to replace the screen on my Note 9. I see some screens available with no little extras. And I see some with adhesive pads and little tools. I have tools from other phone battery installs. How important are the adhesive pads? Can it be satisfactorily reassembled with the original adhesive?
To be honest you are better off replacing the entire front panel of your device. If the display is faulty or the glass is damaged. Unless you have a clean room and all the necessary tools to replace the glass on your device. Even then it is very difficult to replace the glass without damaging the AMOLED display.
^This^ and replace the battery too.
Yeah, I intend to do the whole screen and glass. I watched how-to's and R&Ring just the glass seems risky.
But how important are the new adhesive pads/strips?
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Yeah, I intend to do the whole screen and glass. I watched how-to's and R&Ring just the glass seems risky.
But how important are the new adhesive pads/strips?
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You want to have them even if you don't need them. These phones are held together with them.
If you do it right the first time... you don't have to do a second time.
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You want to have them even if you don't need them. These phones are held together with them.
If you do it right the first time... you don't have to do a second time.
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That is true. But you have to make sure that you have the correct adhesive strips for putting together your device again. As if you use the wrong ones, your device may fall apart very easily.
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That is true. But you have to make sure that you have the correct adhesive strips for putting together your device again. As if you use the wrong ones, your device may fall apart very easily.
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They also come in different thicknesses. They have to be exact.
I repaired two of my Canon cams LCDs. Having the new strips made it go a lot easier and both jobs came out looking near perfect.
Speaking of batteries, does anyone know a good source for a new one? I got one that was supposed to be a new genuine Note 9 battery, but the capacity is even less then my original (3300 mAh vs 3500 mAh).
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Speaking of batteries, does anyone know a good source for a new one? I got one that was supposed to be a new genuine Note 9 battery, but the capacity is even less then my original (3300 mAh vs 3500 mAh).
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The more recently it was manufactured the better given the quality is the same.
Li's age even when stored. They should be stored with half a full charge in a cool place.
Sure enough. What's a good source for a new one?
Are the batteries on Aliexpress reliable?
I came across more than a couple of videos where durability of Note 10 Pro and Pro Max is very poor, it failed in many tests. More importantly miserable in bend test. I am really in dilemma for how long the device can survice.
Any thoughts?
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I came across more than a couple of videos where durability of Note 10 Pro and Pro Max is very poor, it failed in many tests. More importantly miserable in bend test. I am really in dilemma for how long the device can survice.
Any thoughts?
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What are you doing with the device? Throwing it away or let it fall? Why do you want to bend it? Buy a good case and nevermind!
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What are you doing with the device? Throwing it away or let it fall? Why do you want to bend it? Buy a good case and nevermind!
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That I do anyways and thanks for your suggesion, but do note that quality of the meterials used and durability matter a lot. I have never seen this fragile device before from Xiaomi.
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That I do anyways and thanks for your suggesion, but do note that quality of the meterials used and durability matter a lot. I have never seen this fragile device before from Xiaomi.
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It's not "durability" test, it is more properly called "can-it-withstand-abuse" test.
And remember, it's a midranger phone, Xiaomi cut some corners. Expect more durable phone? Buy a better one. Case close. Always treat your phone carefully, buy a case, get a phone insurance if there any, etc.
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I came across more than a couple of videos where durability of Note 10 Pro and Pro Max is very poor, it failed in many tests. More importantly miserable in bend test. I am really in dilemma for how long the device can survice.
Any thoughts?
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You were fooled by the bend test by that youtuber. The bend test was done after the fall test. Once the phone has cracks it is easier to break. Don't trust that channel unless they redo all their tests in only one format and bend test first before fall test. Even jerry rig doesnt even do fall test.
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You were fooled by the bend test by that youtuber. The bend test was done after the fall test. Once the phone has cracks it is easier to break. Don't trust that channel unless they redo all their tests in only one format and bend test first before fall test. Even jerry rig doesnt even do fall test.
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Oh..maybe true to some extent...
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You were fooled by the bend test by that youtuber. The bend test was done after the fall test. Once the phone has cracks it is easier to break. Don't trust that channel unless they redo all their tests in only one format and bend test first before fall test. Even jerry rig doesnt even do fall test.
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This! That's why I'm telling people that test isn't good but they don't listen to me. Only Zack can do it right.
I usually watch every jerryrig's videos but only for "educationnal" purpose.
Redmi Note 10 PRO is a very nice phone for it price. Xiaomi maybe cut some corners, but as some ppl said earlier, you use your phone with a case, and never bend test your phone..
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I usually watch every jerryrig's videos but only for "educationnal" purpose.
Redmi Note 10 PRO is a very nice phone for it price. Xiaomi maybe cut some corners, but as some ppl said earlier, you use your phone with a case, and never bend test your phone..
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Thanks for letting your opinion know. Note that even I watch those videos and it doesn't mean we do such things with our devices; no one if it's hard-earned money. It only gives idea as how careful you should be with the device.
These kind of tests can be useful and a win-win situation for us the consumers, not the manufacturers.
The bend test can be useful. I'm sure people or their friends might accidently sit on their phone when you leave it on the couch/car seat and probably roll on it when you fall asleep while using it on the bed.
This phone comes with really good specs for the price, so just be mindful of it's fragility if you decide to purchase and use it. And not everyone is fond of bulky cases to protect the phone.
Btw, to those who said bend test should be done first on the Gupta vid, here's another vid with bend test first. It shows the plastic frame is much weaker than other plastic frame phones.
Ya plastic frame with glass is prone to bends (especially in Xiaomi phones). But other glass phones from manufacturers like Realme are more "bend test - durable". Also fully plastic made phones are much much durable.
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These kind of tests can be useful and a win-win situation for us the consumers, not the manufacturers.
The bend test can be useful. I'm sure people or their friends might accidently sit on their phone when you leave it on the couch/car seat and probably roll on it when you fall asleep while using it on the bed.
This phone comes with really good specs for the price, so just be mindful of it's fragility if you decide to purchase and use it. And not everyone is fond of bulky cases to protect the phone.
Btw, to those who said bend test should be done first on the Gupta vid, here's another vid with bend test first. It shows the plastic frame is much weaker than other plastic frame phones.
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I agree with you.
Just buy a better case. That's what I plan to do with my Redmi Note 10 Pro
Spigen Note 10 Pro cases are showing up https://www.spigen.com/collections/xiaomi-series
https://www.spigen.com/collections/xiaomi-series/products/xiaomi-redmi-note-10-pro-case-tough-armor?variant=39273192554543
https://www.spigen.com/collections/xiaomi-series/products/xiaomi-redmi-note-10-pro-case-rugged-armor?variant=39273194487855
https://www.spigen.com/collections/xiaomi-series/products/xiaomi-redmi-note-10-pro-case-ultra-hybrid?variant=39273208578095
Why does anyone want to bend-test a phone is beyond me. Most of these "bend-testers" do it to rake up more views for themselves in YouTube or other social media and make more money. I mean, just look at that bend test thumbnail picture in the youtube link above. It's a clickbait trap even laymen would want to click on.
As a consumer, why do you want to bend and abuse your phone, that you paid money for? In this world, you can break anything, if you want. Even metal or rocks. That's right - you DON'T want to break anything, especially something that you paid for.
Don't put in your back pocket and sit. Or remove the phone from the back pocket before sitting, if you have the habit of slotting your phone there.
Give respect for what you have bought. Get a good thin but durable case protection. Get a good screen protector. These will greatly help the resell value too.
So treat all of your phones (even humble and cheaper ones) gently and nice. They will last longer and be with you longer.
you're afraid of your phone breaking during bend as if you're BENDING your phone daily
He did the bend test AFTER the fall test ... It's insane ! Who is crazy enough to do that ?
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He did the bend test AFTER the fall test ... It's insane ! Who is crazy enough to do that ?
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He does those things with almost all popular brand mobiles. Btw there is another guy who did bend test immediately after unboxing and it failed. Just to inform you.
There is another one who did a fall test and the phone survived some risky falls ... The point is, these are phones not hammers, if i buy a super amoled with a huge camera i have to take care of it .. my friend bought a samsung note 10 when released, and it fell at work, the screen went dark and he had to replace it for almost the rn10p price
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There is another one who did a fall test and the phone survived some risky falls ... The point is, these are phones not hammers, if i buy a super amoled with a huge camera i have to take care of it .. my friend bought a samsung note 10 when released, and it fell at work, the screen went dark and he had to replace it for almost the rn10p price
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Firstly this is Not to spread negativity or anything else.
Experiences do vary from persone to person and device to device...I regularly watch durability test videos, more so if I want to decide on buying a device...It 's just to get an idea as to how well or bad the device can survive in day-to-day scenarios or during any unfortunate situations like falls. Not all videos are fake or clickbaits I can say.
At the end, if something is exiciting like specs, features, price, some people would overlook fragility or don't care about durability.
Thanks & Cheers!
Those youtubers will lead you to not buying anything guys !
Are you buying smartphone or gum ? to do what ever you want !?
look after your device and it will live longer
stop these sh^ts reviews and videos
Coming from S9, Note 10+ and many other older galaxy phones have to say this is absolutely the worst Samsung device I have ever owned.
For those considering, here are reasons why you should strongly think about whether you want to spend the money on this particular model
- Extremely large and heavy device. Doesn't fit in pockets, pulls down pants / shirts it is so heavy
- Extremely unbalanced. Hurts your hand / wrist trying to balance it unless you get a popsocket because it is so top heavy
- Super fragile screen. Low cost panel is super easy to break. Mine broke after 4 weeks of light use in a weird way (half on / half off, intermittant dimming of each display half)
- Loaded with malware. Tons of Samsung malware / adware / spyware to debloat, assuming you get the Exynos
- Back coating for anything but Silver is super easily chipped. Phantom Black chips daily unless you get a case (and increase the size)
- Runs hot. Nice in winter to keep you hands warm but otherwise annoying - any videos or games and expect to feel the heat
- Slow to charge. Super Fast charger takes an hour and a half
- Camera is misleading. Only certain zoom increments work correctly - all others are blurry / basically no improvement relative to s20
While the 10x zoom is sort of cool the reality is that this phone is a lemon compared to other Samsungs or current Apple competition.
Very unrefined effort relative to iphone or better Sammy devices (ex. Note 10+ or Galaxy Alpha) in terms of weight / materials / balance / display.
Likely last Samsung I buy - seriously considering Pixel 5 on GrapheneOS given the litany of hardware and software issues from a super expensive phone you don't really even own.
Interesting perspective. This is my first return to Samsung after writing them off years ago. Outside of the bloat (which can be removed via ADB) and the lack luster camera performance (in comparison to the Pixel line) the phone is solid! It's not any heavier than other similar size devices. It's very fluid and smooth. It's got great hardware and build quality.
If it hurts your wrist... I really can't help you there. Never had such an issue. The balance point in the device is at about the power button so pretty mid phone really.
Most of the weight related comments are subjective. I actually prefer the weight and feel of this device compared to the Note 20 ultra.
You forgot... no SD card slot. No native spen.
And those wretched rounded display corners.
I would at least expect it to be more durable with dog ugly rounded corners. It's a step backward in design and features. I wouldn't buy it for $400.
It wouldn't be the first time I rejected/bypassed a Samsung release.
Samsung has always run hot and cold.
Feel the wuv... just my opinion
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You forgot... no SD card slot. No native spen.
And those wretched rounded display corners.
I would at least expect it to be more durable with dog ugly rounded corners. It's a step backward in design and features. I wouldn't buy it for $400.
It wouldn't be the first time I rejected/bypassed a Samsung release.
Samsung has always run hot and cold.
Feel the wuv... just my opinion
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I was like you once in regards to the near right angled corners of the Note series. It was my favorite aesthetic part of this phone. But maybe boredom got the better of the me. As I'm digging the smooth rounded corners now. It's so nice to hold in the hand nekid. Ooh errr....
The curved edges are less aggressive as well. The s21U with a 6.9" display would have been nice. Roll on the s22U lol. Truth be told, I would have probably been a Huawei guy by now. Now they make some good hardware. But ant competitive practices put an end to their rise to dominance.
PS I'm in the process of removing bloat. Doesn't seem to be as effective on this device. Perhaps disabling isn't as good as uninstalling like what I used to do ?
This is an entirely subjective assessment of the phone. I never had any of these issues and I thoroughly enjoy the experience of the phone. I made sure to do my research before getting this phone and weigh what the important aspects of it vs the not so important aspects. I'm sorry you've had this experience and I hope you get the right device for you next time.
Are your Wrists made out of glass?
sultan.of.swing said:
Are your Wrists made out of glass?
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Mine are quite strong surprisingly
Perhaps consider using a belt or jackets with bigger pockets... This phone weighs as much as the iPhone 12 Pro Max and less than the Mi 11 Ultra. If you want the best, you have to accept the weight.
There's no more or less "malware" than any other Samsung device.
What's misleading about the camera? It's got 4 rear cameras each with a specific zoom level.
This sounds like one of those situations where you should've tried out the phone in a store before buying it. Online reviews isn't the same as holding it in your hands.
beserker15 said:
Perhaps consider using a belt or jackets with bigger pockets... This phone weighs as much as the iPhone 12 Pro Max and less than the Mi 11 Ultra. If you want the best, you have to accept the weight.
There's no more or less "malware" than any other Samsung device.
What's misleading about the camera? It's got 4 rear cameras each with a specific zoom level.
This sounds like one of those situations where you should've tried out the phone in a store before buying it. Online reviews isn't the same as holding it in your hands.
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Indeed. The issue with the size and weight would've been avoided if he/she had done a physical trial of the phone before buying.
Also, the experience of one doesn't mean the experience of many.
Limeybastard said:
I was like you once in regards to the near right angled corners of the Note series. It was my favorite aesthetic part of this phone. But maybe boredom got the better of the me. As I'm digging the smooth rounded corners now. It's so nice to hold in the hand nekid. Ooh errr....
The curved edges are less aggressive as well. The s21U with a 6.9" display would have been nice. Roll on the s22U lol. Truth be told, I would have probably been a Huawei guy by now. Now they make some good hardware. But ant competitive practices put an end to their rise to dominance.
PS I'm in the process of removing bloat. Doesn't seem to be as effective on this device. Perhaps disabling isn't as good as uninstalling like what I used to do ?
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Which device are you debloating, the 20U right?
I sent you a PM.
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Mine are quite strong surprisingly
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Thousands of Generations of the male anatomy have prepared our wrists for our arch nemesis, The Galaxy S21 Ultra.
sultan.of.swing said:
Thousands of Generations of the male anatomy have prepared our wrists for our arch nemesis, The Galaxy S21 Ultra.
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Walk softly and carry a big S21...
Sounds to me like the author of this potentially sarcastic post, really needs a pink iphone 12 mini.....
- Why does everyone think that we all want to hear what they hate about the phone?
- If you hate the phone and want to sell it then sell it and move one.
- This whole show of "Why I don't like this phone", to prove how more superior you are to the people that like the phone.
- Most of the "issues" are not issues just your opinions
- Bullet lists are short and contain little facts as they are meant to be used as agenda or discussion points
- Most people use screen protectors and cases
- If you need to tell strangers why you got rid of something you do not value in a long list of bullet points then you have narcissistic* tendencies.
* is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others
lywyn said:
- Bullet lists are short and contain little facts as they are meant to be used as agenda or discussion points
- Most people use screen protectors and cases
- If you need to tell strangers why you got rid of something you do not value in a long list of bullet points then you have narcissistic* tendencies.
* is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others
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Yes so true, pleaze always use a case.
As for the rest; we were once gods.
Yeah... it's so depressing
Someone's angsty.
lywyn said:
- Why does everyone think that we all want to hear what they hate about the phone?
- If you hate the phone and want to sell it then sell it and move one.
- This whole show of "Why I don't like this phone", to prove how more superior you are to the people that like the phone.
- Most of the "issues" are not issues just your opinions
- Bullet lists are short and contain little facts as they are meant to be used as agenda or discussion points
- Most people use screen protectors and cases
- If you need to tell strangers why you got rid of something you do not value in a long list of bullet points then you have narcissistic* tendencies.
* is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others
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lywyn said:
- Why does everyone think that we all want to hear what they hate about the phone?
- If you hate the phone and want to sell it then sell it and move one.
- This whole show of "Why I don't like this phone", to prove how more superior you are to the people that like the phone.
- Most of the "issues" are not issues just your opinions
- Bullet lists are short and contain little facts as they are meant to be used as agenda or discussion points
- Most people use screen protectors and cases
- If you need to tell strangers why you got rid of something you do not value in a long list of bullet points then you have narcissistic* tendencies.
* is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others
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Can you PM your business card. Cheers.
This thread is going south ...
We got the OP's point. Point !