Hi people. I bought recently a Huawei P9, and it has Android 6.0 Marshmallow. The first day poped up an udate to Android 7 and EMUI 5. Im hesitant to update it because i read some people have problems with the battery after update. Is this really an issue? Any opinion is welcome. Thanks!
I guess, problems with battery are when you root and modify phone, atlest for me have not problems with battery in nuget, and can say, on nuget battery works better than it was on marshmalow, but that realy depends on personal use of phone.
Nuget are faster, visual better, and have not problems with battery, atlest for me, but im not hardcore user, its only my experience using marshmalow, then nuget, nuget 80% better
Most of problems like stability and battery life is made by users them self, apps they use, lack of maintaining/cleaning phone or just weird placebo effect just like with custom roms, where people install them and shout AMAZING SPEED... Of course it will be faster with better battery life, they just made clean installation and didnt install all applications that they normally have on phone. With update its reversed situation, they do "dirty" update.
I found long time ago that after some major udpates lots of applications, even system ones drain battery and crash often. Its a matter of cleaning cache or whole app memory, or just update apps/reinstall them to fix that.
And should you update?
Its up to you really, if there is update, why not. But dont really expect miracles from any update, not only in Huawei devices. For most of time update are really just cosmetic changes, some tweaks with look, functions and some fixing AND adding new bugs.
You will not gonna have any compatibility problems with apps/games if you stay with 6.0 If you are happy with current version and you dont have any major problems... just leave it as it is. You should not even be worrying about security patches, for all those years of using Android I seriously believe that its just some placebo, because 99.9% of "viruses/hax" on phones are just users who install some crappy apps or throw their personal data all over the internet, typing their credit cards numbers on every damn game and app.
sebasspf said:
Hi people. I bought recently a Huawei P9, and it has Android 6.0 Marshmallow. The first day poped up an udate to Android 7 and EMUI 5. Im hesitant to update it because i read some people have problems with the battery after update. Is this really an issue? Any opinion is welcome. Thanks!
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As far as features/improvements, I do not find Nougat to be much of an update over Marshmallow. For me, the biggest reason to update is simply because you will get security updates for vulnerabilities in android. Most people don't care about that, and that is their choice. Other than a few new features for the camera, there is not that much for me to choose Nougat over Marshmallow. YMMV.
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I have the notification here to update, but I'm not really sure if I should do it. My phone on KitKat is very stable, VERY smooth, good battery life, you know, I don't have any problem with it. That's why I'm kinda afraid of updating and getting a slower, buggier performance. So, what you guys who already updated think?
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I have the notification here to update, but I'm not really sure if I should do it. My phone on KitKat is very stable, VERY smooth, good battery life, you know, I don't have any problem with it. That's why I'm kinda afraid of updating and getting a slower, buggier performance. So, what you guys who already updated think?
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I would say, nope.. i have seen people with better battlife, some with terrible. theres more negative than positives.., check before you update. want to get the new notification on lock? new status bar, icons...etc? new dialer, settings..is it really worth the risk? you can flashback to 4.4.4 anytime. but you will have to root everythinf again. wich is a pain in the ass.
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I'm using lollipop for 2 weeks and I say no....
Everything is nice etc, but the snappyness and reliability of 4.4.4 is unconparable. with this...
I wont be updating either, or not for a very long time. I had to put up with it on my nexus 4 and 7. Which are both now sold and switched out to 4.4.4 devices.
There is nothing it added but it messed up a lot. the z3c is probably the perfect phone for me, amazing battery coupled with decent specs, so I wont be risking it either. especially as I cant find a 4.4.4 UK tft unbranded anywhere to roll back to!
I'm taking a look at the Sony Mobile forums and it seems like a lot of people are having issues with Lollipop too. I think I'll probably stick with KitKat, at least for now, until Sony fix the major bugs. My phone is too snappy to risk it
Here are the + and the - for me. It's yours to decide.
Against :
- you loose xposed. That's quite a huge loss for YouTube adaway and that kind of stuff.
It should be fixed someday.
- I hate paying in freemium game. You won't be able to use cheat app. Lucky thing, thing engine, thingcih and stuff...
- Minor bug.
- even if I enjoy this, quite a pain to install recovery and flash (I also flashed quite early, when recovery was a hard thing to achieve)
- viper4android does not work.
For :
- I actually (despite the other users) experienced an increase in battery life. +25 to +30%.
- Smoother UI and phone.
- prettier UI and better navbar.
- Smoother auto dim
- better quick bar.
- drm restoration works. Better camera, sound (without viper) , screen.
- phone reset. It cleans it.
- some minor stuff
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I'm taking a look at the Sony Mobile forums and it seems like a lot of people are having issues with Lollipop too. I think I'll probably stick with KitKat, at least for now, until Sony fix the major bugs. My phone is too snappy to risk it
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People won't complain if everything is alright.
This is like the glass breaking topic. People won't write their glass didn't broke by itself during the night.
fenchai said:
I would say, nope.. i have seen people with better battlife, some with terrible. theres more negative than positives.., check before you update. want to get the new notification on lock? new status bar, icons...etc? new dialer, settings..is it really worth the risk? you can flashback to 4.4.4 anytime. but you will have to root everythinf again. wich is a pain in the ass.
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If you achieved root in the first time and backed up your ta, you can achieve root anytime with a custom recovery.
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I wont be updating either, or not for a very long time. I had to put up with it on my nexus 4 and 7. Which are both now sold and switched out to 4.4.4 devices.
There is nothing it added but it messed up a lot. the z3c is probably the perfect phone for me, amazing battery coupled with decent specs, so I wont be risking it either. especially as I cant find a 4.4.4 UK tft unbranded anywhere to roll back to!
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Create your own ftf to restore. This can be rapidly done. Also double check xperifirm.
I looked around to see if anyone else saw any major differences between the android 5.1 and android 6.0.1 update. I only found one video that explains it as best as possible. See link below to youtube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeoDt_6EWW0
What did we actually get besides optimization, google now on tap, and a few visuals here and there?
May-be it's just me, but the only time I get any battery optimization is only when i'm not using the phone. Other then that, while i'm using my phone, the battery still drains fast.
I really don't see the major point in having google now on tap since I really don't care to get a ton of info on sites I visit on my phone.
I was hoping to get a full blown OS upgrade. But after seeing the file size of the update, I was already disappointed from the start.
Am I the only one disappointed in the update?
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I looked around to see if anyone else saw any major differences between the android 5.1 and android 6.0.1 update.
What did we actually get besides optimization, google now on tap, and a few visuals here and there?
May-be it's just me, but the only time I get any battery optimization is only when i'm not using the phone. Other then that, while i'm using my phone, the battery still drains fast.
I really don't see the major point in having google now on tap since I really don't care to get a ton of info on sites I visit on my phone.
I was hoping to get a full blown OS upgrade. But after seeing the file size of the update, I was already disappointed from the start.
Am I the only one disappointed in the update?
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So, other things it got that I'm happy about:
Individual app permissions
Doze
Format SD card as internal storage
To me, these are the best things about upgrading to 6.0.1 that actually make a difference for me.
FYI, the battery life will be the same when you are using the phone, Doze only kicks in when the phone is idle, like really, really idle. Not using it, not in your pocket when you're walking around, nothing like that. It needs to be sitting still on a table/desk for a good while (like when you are sleeping and not constantly checking your phone) before it will kick Doze on.
I agree with @Rev_Pizzaguy...that's how Android M works by design. I have Evervolv Marshmallow running on my HP Touchpad and i get the slowest drain when Doze is running and my tablet is totally still and nothing runs.
Also, I personally have no regrets converting my 64GB SD card to internal. I weighed the pros and cons and made my choice, lol.
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So, other things it got that I'm happy about:
Individual app permissions
Doze
Format SD card as internal storage
To me, these are the best things about upgrading to 6.0.1 that actually make a difference for me.
FYI, the battery life will be the same when you are using the phone, Doze only kicks in when the phone is idle, like really, really idle. Not using it, not in your pocket when you're walking around, nothing like that. It needs to be sitting still on a table/desk for a good while (like when you are sleeping and not constantly checking your phone) before it will kick Doze on.
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App permissions and SD card as internal storage is fine. I have no problem with these system updates, it's the fact that they didn't take full advantage of the ability to customize their particular os. HTC needs a little pep in their step when it comes to visual os upgrades. The themes engine is OK, but nothing compared to cyanogenmod, miui, oxygen os and flyme os. What I was referring to was the look overall not changing. Instead of calling it a Android 6.0.1 os update, they should have called it an Android 6.0.1 system update and made it perfectly clear that there would be no actual visual changes, just a few system changes. Text on a screen can be misinterpreted by the reader, so I want to make it clear. I'm not upset with what the update offered, I'm upset at the fact that there was no change to the look of the os. Maybe if there are future updates for this, things may change. But for now, just gonna sit back and be content with what I got and hope for the best going forth in the future.
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I agree with @Rev_Pizzaguy...that's how Android M works by design. I have Evervolv Marshmallow running on my HP Touchpad and i get the slowest drain when Doze is running and my tablet is totally still and nothing runs.
Also, I personally have no regrets converting my 64GB SD card to internal. I weighed the pros and cons and made my choice, lol.
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For me, it's about the visuals. I never said I didn't like the update, I just wanted to see what HTC could do with visuals. That was a disappointment. Everything else that came in the update was fine. Wish I knew how to build roms. But since I don't, I must have hope in those who do and hope they will come through for us 626s users.
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For me, it's about the visuals. I never said I didn't like the update, I just wanted to see what HTC could do with visuals. That was a disappointment. Everything else that came in the update was fine. Wish I knew how to build roms. But since I don't, I must have hope in those who do and hope they will come through for us 626s users.
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HTC's latest version of Sense UI is 7.0 and their other phones that have been updated to Android 6.0.1 ran Sense 7.0 as well, so I wasn't expecting much UI change. I know Sense 8.0 is coming, but it's only in limited release on their new flagship (HTC 10). From the sounds of it, it sounds like they are decoupling Sense UI completely from the OS, though, so we may see it as an update later on. (Search for "HTC Sense 8.0 closed beta" and you'll find plenty of articles.)
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HTC's latest version of Sense UI is 7.0 and their other phones that have been updated to Android 6.0.1 ran Sense 7.0 as well, so I wasn't expecting much UI change. I know Sense 8.0 is coming, but it's only in limited release on their new flagship (HTC 10). From the sounds of it, it sounds like they are decoupling Sense UI completely from the OS, though, so we may see it as an update later on. (Search for "HTC Sense 8.0 closed beta" and you'll find plenty of articles.)
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Thank you Rev for the info. Well, at least that gives me hope. I do develop themes on the side for HTC. But there's only so much you can do as far as customization. I'm only able to change the dialer, messages, wallpapers, icons, and color scheme and a couple other things. They now have what they call "Freestyle Themes." Which are not bad at all. I would just like to see htc themselves think outside of the box like they did with their own branded "Freestyle Theme" collection. But yeah, what you have told me gives me hope for the future. Once again, I thank you for your info. It is much appreciated.:highfive::good:
Check out a couple of my htc themes (links below)
1. Space Glow - Classic Theme
https://themes.htc.com/#/user/theme/com.htc.theme.t2cdf94df-7c57-4f39-976f-1cb48ee4341e
2. Hey Scotty! Vintage Man! - Freestyle Theme
https://themes.htc.com/#/user/theme/com.htc.theme.t29886eca-9024-4408-bda3-d784308c4745
"Freestyle themes" have been around for a while, I've been using them since they where first introduced on a Sense Home update in the play store.
Hey guys, nice forum and good topic. But I'm needing some help in updating my 626s s-off. I've been looking around for a compatible update of the 6.0.1 but keep getting alternate language. Any help or links anyone can provide is most appreciated. Thank you.
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"Freestyle themes" have been around for a while, I've been using them since they where first introduced on a Sense Home update in the play store.
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Sounds great, which ones are your favs?
Hello! I'm essentially a new user for things like rooting and all that crazy rom stuff when it comes to android. I've only ever used my Huawei Mate 8 to do things like rooting, twrp and rom installation. Xposed bricked the phone whenever i tried to do it so i just rooted stock and left it. I'm lookin to get this dude to be fast and have nice battery life so i can hang on to it for a year or so. I was wondering what things i should do to achieve this while keeping it safe from bricking and doing other weird things to it. For instance, Im not sure what is wrong with my mate 8. But even though twrp works on it, i cannot install any roms on it. The roms never load in and on a backcheck i can see that the storage space is unused. Just not sure what happened.
What things do you guys do to keep the phone running well for a long time? Keep it fast and smooth. Ive never used xposed before so I would have to explore that. I really only use root to modify the kernel to save a bit of battery. I dont really want to go crazy but if i could squeeze an average of 6-8 hours of screen on time with this dude I would do all the crazy things.
Consider me a new user due to the very low support with the Mate 8. Havent really explored android as much as i wish i could have with that phone.
This is a new phone. So no stable or official ROM is available yet. And many xposed modules don't work. We don't even have xposed for Nougat. Whereas most of the custom ROMs available are of Nougat.
Also, we'll mostly get an update this week.
I'd wait for the update. In the mean time, there'll be new ROMs. And the existing ones will be less buggy.
There phone is anyway blazing fast and gives a great battery backup. Even if you keep it in battery saver mode, it's quite fast
But if you feel restless, rooting, flashing ROMs, etc is quite easy. You just need to read about it before doing it. You can always ask anything over here. The are many awesome people here willing to help you out. It's your call. You get to revert back to stock ROM anyway.
Is the nougat beta better than marshmallow? Battery life better or worse or same-y? I'm trying to get the most I can before receiving this phone.
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This is a new phone. So no stable or official ROM is available yet. And many xposed modules don't work. We don't even have xposed for Nougat. Whereas most of the custom ROMs available are of Nougat.
Also, we'll mostly get an update this week.
I'd wait for the update. In the mean time, there'll be new ROMs. And the existing ones will be less buggy.
There phone is anyway blazing fast and gives a great battery backup. Even if you keep it in battery saver mode, it's quite fast
But if you feel restless, rooting, flashing ROMs, etc is quite easy. You just need to read about it before doing it. You can always ask anything over here. The are many awesome people here willing to help you out. It's your call. You get to revert back to stock ROM anyway.
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RR and tesla is currently out for our device and they are official release plus they are pretty stable
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RR and tesla is currently out for our device and they are official release plus they are pretty stable
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Sorry, my bad. Tesla is official now.
But the fact remains that both are buggy. There's some important feature not working properly in all roms.
I read have some problems in new OOS 4.0, battery drain for example.
When OP release a fix update?
3.5.3 is the best?
This device better than SGS7?
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I read have some problems in new OOS 4.0, battery drain for example.
When OP release a fix update?
3.5.3 is the best?
This device better than SGS7?
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Subjective. For dev support, OP3T hands down. But Galaxy S7S has some hardware that is better than OP3T like wireless charging, camera, and SD card slot. It depends on what you want out of a phone.
What about my OOS question?
I'm not sure which one is the better one, but definitely the 3.5.4 is the worst.
I like some new features on 4, but I have experimented around 2 bugs with Facebook (it got freezed and I have to go and stop the app to be able to use it again).
Also, with the 3.5.3 I'd been getting more than 7 hrs of active screen. Now I just get around 6 and a half...
It's not a major difference or problem, I'm comfortable with using the nougat version...
there are no battery problems on oos4.
ppl using buggy apps which drain battery. don't listen to every **** they post.
OP releases many updates to this phone?
every month?
I've been very happy with MM on my N6 and still get great battery life and performance. I'm comfortable with ROMs/mods and my phone is pretty much where I want it in terms of functionality and UI. After months of debate, I'm still unsure if it's worth moving to Nougat (and not impressed with O preview either). I'm so unconvinced that I don't even feel like investing the time in testing 7.x particularly after reading posts of battery or compatibility issues. I'm not trying to be "stuck in the past" but just don't see a convincing reason to update.
The last dedicated thread I saw on MM vs N was from Oct 2016, any new opinions since then?
I'm thinking about moving back to MM because of the terrible battery life and performance on nougat.
In the same boat. MM seems to give me better battery life but Nougat seems a little bit more snappier.
I've only been on 7.0 for a couple of weeks, but no complaints.
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I've been very happy with MM on my N6 and still get great battery life and performance. I'm comfortable with ROMs/mods and my phone is pretty much where I want it in terms of functionality and UI. After months of debate, I'm still unsure if it's worth moving to Nougat (and not impressed with O preview either). I'm so unconvinced that I don't even feel like investing the time in testing 7.x particularly after reading posts of battery or compatibility issues. I'm not trying to be "stuck in the past" but just don't see a convincing reason to update.
The last dedicated thread I saw on MM vs N was from Oct 2016, any new opinions since then?
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Hey... Flashed Pure Nexus with EX Kernel as soon as its nougat iteration appeared and never looked back. Well I can't really compare about battery life as my phone is now 2 years old. Still it performs very well, nothing to complain about. Screen on time is the same and standby is better on Android 7 i think. Of course stock firmware is not as polished as it should, but custom ROMs are here to change that. I don't need that much mods on my phone anymore except theme, ad blocker, theme ready apps and maybe a few other things.
What kind of incompatibility issues are you talking about?
Well, I understand you don't want to waist your time , but it's just a matter of backup/flash/test. You won't loose anything and if you don't like it, you can always revert back to MM anyway. I think a weekend is more than enough to decide if it's worth it for you or not.
I usually prefer testing things myself and not based on people statements. Because everyone has his tastes and they unlikely match mines...
Cheers...
I'm on 7.1.1 stock with Franco Kernel, encryption disabled and F2FS filesystem.
No problems with stability, lags or battery life. In fact, I usually get around 5h+ of screen on time, which is pretty good for a 2 years old phone.
Usually, battery life and stability are user fault. Of course we can't say everything is related to users... But if you configure correctly your apps permissions, don't install anything out of the play store and don't do things like undervolting... You should be good to go.
Regards,
Rafael
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What kind of incompatibility issues are you talking about?
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I'd have to go back and look at the threads I've read, the only thing I recall being a deal-killer was not being able to use net.tethering under Nougat (is that still an issue)? I've been very happy with Pure (MM) with Franco on my other devices but have kept stock on my N6. I agree with testing it out myself, just need to find some time, but generally trust opinions on XDA.
Phone has been solid for years and rooted with Nova, adaway, lightflow, multiwindow, and tethering has met my needs. Maybe I'm just being lazy or in a rut but definitely would like something more revolutionary to encourage the upgrade.
Thanks for the input everyone, gives me a lot to think about.
Slainte!
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I'd have to go back and look at the threads I've read, the only thing I recall being a deal-killer was not being able to use net.tethering under Nougat (is that still an issue)? I've been very happy with Pure (MM) with Franco on my other devices but have kept stock on my N6. I agree with testing it out myself, just need to find some time, but generally trust opinions on XDA.
Phone has been solid for years and rooted with Nova, adaway, lightflow, multiwindow, and tethering has met my needs. Maybe I'm just being lazy or in a rut but definitely would like something more revolutionary to encourage the upgrade.
Thanks for the input everyone, gives me a lot to think about.
Slainte!
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Sadly I can't really help you with net.tethering as I don't use it...
Just make a search in Q/A or open a thread if nothing shows up. I'm sure you'll get an answer... :good:
Good luck...
Couple of days with stock 7.1.1 and so far it's fine, nothing that made me thrilled with the update but nothing that makes me want to roll back. Can't say it's snappier than MM or has better battery life, though. Enabled tethering using the usual net.tethering entry as well as 'settings put global tether_dun_required 0' so nothing lost there. Guess if this is the last, full-point update for my beloved N6 I can live with it (until I find an annoyance I can't stand and flash Pure or something else).
Thanks again for everyone's input!
Bought my N6 used back in September. I still have official 7.0 My device has never stuttered or slowed down (outside of extremely low battery and high CPU apps). I have a lot of apps installed, I use it hard, and run some demanding apps (like raw photo conversion) on occasion. And I just clocked 3+ days of battery use with nearly 7 hours of SOT under a variety of uses. I can't imagine not using N on this device.
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Bought my N6 used back in September. I still have official 7.0 My device has never stuttered or slowed down (outside of extremely low battery and high CPU apps). I have a lot of apps installed, I use it hard, and run some demanding apps (like raw photo conversion) on occasion. And I just clocked 3+ days of battery use with nearly 7 hours of SOT under a variety of uses. I can't imagine not using N on this device.
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Thats 7.0, 711 is the issue at least for me
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Thats 7.0, 711 is the issue at least for me
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Curious, what problems do you have in 711? Those issues aside, the OP asked about 7.0 as opposed to 711.
terrible battery life? maybe you need a new battery, I get above 6 SOT hours using Nitrogen ROM
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terrible battery life? maybe you need a new battery, I get above 6 SOT hours using Nitrogen ROM
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Its all about standby battery life when using a bt device like an android watch. Not going to get into arguements here but have tested and 7.0 doesnt have the bad drain on my unit and 711 absolutely does. Thus cannot be an old battery if the only change i made was OS version and drastic difference in battery drain. 711 has about 2x+ the standby drain with bt on. 7.0 and 6.0 have much better drain