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Rooting, does it break anything? Can Oreo be rooted?

As mentioned above, does unlocking bootloader and rooting break anything? My previous Sony Xperia XZ Premium had high noise in images and image enhancements were no longer working after unlocking bootloader.
1 - Can I root after updating to Android 8 Oreo or must I first root when using stock Nougat?
2 - If rooting, unlocking bootloader, aside from Samsung Pay not working, anything else affected? Camera or other software such as image enhancements?
My Note 8 was only ordered yesterday and I'm due to receive it Monday so was thinking of rooting as I have some apps that require root access. Thanks.

kanej2006 said:
As mentioned above, does unlocking bootloader and rooting break anything? My previous Sony Xperia XZ Premium had high noise in images and image enhancements were no longer working after unlocking bootloader.
1 - Can I root after updating to Android 8 Oreo or must I first root when using stock Nougat?
2 - If rooting, unlocking bootloader, aside from Samsung Pay not working, anything else affected? Camera or other software such as image enhancements?
My Note 8 was only ordered yesterday and I'm due to receive it Monday so was thinking of rooting as I have some apps that require root access. Thanks.
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Yes you can root Oreo to easy if you have exynos version you cant update to Oreo if you already on Nougat rooted you must first unroot and flash stock firmware than update to Oreo and than root...in other case update to Oreo than root
with root you lose warrianty and samsung pay, knox and you cant update firmware until you not unroot.....about other apps like camera or something you dont need worry root not break it its work normal.
about root if you dont know why you need it than you not need it. I root my phone because need it for few mods and apps which need root. i thinking now to go back to stock and update to May security patch than root again.
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kanej2006 said:
As mentioned above, does unlocking bootloader and rooting break anything? My previous Sony Xperia XZ Premium had high noise in images and image enhancements were no longer working after unlocking bootloader.
1 - Can I root after updating to Android 8 Oreo or must I first root when using stock Nougat?
2 - If rooting, unlocking bootloader, aside from Samsung Pay not working, anything else affected? Camera or other software such as image enhancements?
My Note 8 was only ordered yesterday and I'm due to receive it Monday so was thinking of rooting as I have some apps that require root access. Thanks.
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For Exynos devices:
1. You can root on oreo as easy as on nougat! You only need correct Odin and TWRP version for oreo.
2. You will also lose Samsung pass, security folder and Samsung health. But Samsung health you can easy get back working with an build.prop entry.
Samsung pay, Samsung pass and security folder you will lose permanently
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Logel said:
For Exynos devices:
1. You can root on oreo as easy as on nougat! You only need correct Odin and TWRP version for oreo.
2. You will also lose Samsung pass, security folder and Samsung health. But Samsung health you can easy get back working with an build.prop entry.
Samsung pay, Samsung pass and security folder you will lose permanently
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^ Thank you so much for your response. I am not at all bothered or interested to use Samsung pass & security, will never use either, just further bloatware I intend to get rid of!
I ordered my dual sim Note 8 from Middle East, 99% will be the Exynos version. I shall confirm once received the model number. I'm hoping it's the Exynos version as performance and battery life is even better than the Snapdragon one.
There are a number of apps that I use which require access such as root explorer, titanium backup and Adaway.

After rooting, if you want to get back to stock will the Knox count still be triggered and if so can you unroot and get back to stock firmware and still be able to use samsung pass?

JC37 said:
After rooting, if you want to get back to stock will the Knox count still be triggered and if so can you unroot and get back to stock firmware and still be able to use samsung pass?
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Nope... Once rooted you lose all Sammy goodies... Even flashing stock.

wisefreakz said:
Nope... Once rooted you lose all Sammy goodies... Even flashing stock.
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Sow what will be the benefit of rooting for the note 8 since there is not much now out there to use root with?

JC37 said:
Sow what will be the benefit of rooting for the note 8 since there is not much now out there to use root with?
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Not much to those that don't need apps that require root.
But the ones that like custom roms and kernels and Viper4android audio and removing bloat and using backup programs like titanium backup and other things and like to mod their phone their way. Root is necessary! (They don't care for Knox or Samsung pass or secure folder or any related Knox feature.)

BluePhnx said:
Not much to those that don't need apps that require root.
But the ones that like custom roms and kernels and Viper4android audio and removing bloat and using backup programs like titanium backup and other things and like to mod their phone their way. Root is necessary! (They don't care for Knox or Samsung pass or secure folder or any related Knox feature.)
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Thanks, I just rooted mine, can you tell me what rom is stable and fully funtional for me to look at it and any apps you might suggest me for the note 8.
I appreciate your help!

JC37 said:
Thanks, I just rooted mine, can you tell me what rom is stable and fully funtional for me to look at it and any apps you might suggest me for the note 8.
I appreciate your help!
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Try the rom threads for note 8 for custom roms. Look at weta rom for music type rom if you're into music for eg. But make sure it say for n950F and Not n950u.
I've just been reading haven't rooted mine yet.
Try them out and see what you like.
Titanium backup is good for backup of apps and there data.
Adaway great for system wide ad blocking.
Make sure to backup your efs partitions first!! Lose that and no imei and no cell network.

custom rom note 8 sm-n950f

if I do not like ...Can I go back to the factory with all its functions?
I'm sorry for my English

kinni8 said:
if I do not like ...Can I go back to the factory with all its functions?
I'm sorry for my English
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No you still lose Samsung pay, Samsung pass and secure folder and OTA (but you can update through odin) because of the Knox being tripped to 0x1 (No reversing that) .
But everything else should be fine.
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BluePhnx said:
No you still lose Samsung pay, Samsung pass and secure folder and OTA (but you can update through odin) because of the Knox being tripped to 0x1 (No reversing that) .
But everything else should be fine.
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Even with tripped Knox, you can still install OTA on non rooted/custom recovery stock filmware.

Can I flash another region ROM using Odin without break the Knox?

I got a N960F/DS (CSC: OXM_MYM). It is Thailand version without Samsung Pay enabled.
Can I flash another country's ROM, certainly under same hardware architecture (N960FXXS2ARK2), without breaking the Knox?
I want to use Samsung Pay at US ...... ......

You can but still you will not get Samsung pay
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Hi
I flashed my old S6 with German firmware as I couldn’t wait any longer for O2 U.K. and that was ok but I never used payments on my phone back then... I wonder if it’s the same!?
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Did you ever manage to get this to work? I'm in a similar situation.
silenceleaf said:
I got a N960F/DS (CSC: OXM_MYM). It is Thailand version without Samsung Pay enabled.
Can I flash another country's ROM, certainly under same hardware architecture (N960FXXS2ARK2), without breaking the Knox?
I want to use Samsung Pay at US ...... ......
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on the about section in settings, then under status , does the phone still show as "official" ? after you guys successfully flashed other region firmware ? this is a straightforward way to see if the phone is still "knoxed" or not, as i am wondering if the Samsung pay not working is due to georestriction or knox related? Because as i remember with my pre-previous phone the s7e that i rooted, tripped knox resulted in many Samsung apps locked with an original firmware as Samsung health, pass, pay secure folder etc but otherwise still usable.
Just remember that since the S7, once the phone is rooted or knox is triggered there is no way back even if you flash the original firmware and completely unroot it, knox is like an electric fuse and once it is broken there is no way to "unroot" or restore knox to official status except replace the motherboard (until s6 root and knox was software and fixable by flashing original firmware but since s7 knox counter is hardware)

Manage to change region by following this thread.
But I'm not using spay so can't confirm if it will make spay work or not. Knox won't be tripped so nothing to lose if you try it
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...de-how-to-change-s9-s9-csc-model-csc-t3870836

Is rooting with Magisk possible?

Hey im new to Samsung phones and got an S10+ preordered. Will I be able to flash TWRP and Magisk the day I get it or will it take some time? Also is there anything special about rooting Samsung phones?
Thank you for your answers!

I would not expect for immediately. Devs need to reverse engineer/hack their way around the firmware locks to attain root and keep the device bootable. Once they do that, the devices are ours. though I cannot imagine it would be too different from the 9 series with flash counters and such not.
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F0rbidN said:
Hey im new to Samsung phones and got an S10+ preordered. Will I be able to flash TWRP and Magisk the day I get it or will it take some time? Also is there anything special about rooting Samsung phones?
Thank you for your answers!
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If it's the US snapdragon I highly doubt it but with exynos most likely and it will trip knox just like the Note 9.

Misterxtc said:
If it's the US snapdragon I highly doubt it but with exynos most likely and it will trip knox just like the Note 9.
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I will get the exynos version. What are the disadvantages of triggering knox? Thank you for letting me know.

zerolock said:
I would not expect for immediately. Devs need to reverse engineer/hack their way around the firmware locks to attain root and keep the device bootable. Once they do that, the devices are ours. though I cannot imagine it would be too different from the 9 series with flash counters and such not.
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Will I have to do a factory reset in order to root my device?

F0rbidN said:
I will get the exynos version. What are the disadvantages of triggering knox? Thank you for letting me know.
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You will loose Samsung Pay, secure folders and banking apps probably won't work. There is more but that's all that comes to mind right now. Uninstalling root and flashing everything to stock won't fix the lost apps either, it's permanent. I think it will reset your phone too.

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Banking apps will work once able to flash Magisk, simply using a system-less root method will allow for work arounds such as Magisk hide etc. which will definitely allow for such apps to work. Exactly as has been seen for the past few generations of devices using Magisk! Anyway... on another note, yes bootloader will very likely be unlockable on Exynos variants allowing for TWRP and custom rom installation but highly unlikely on Snapdragon variants.

Misterxtc said:
You will loose Samsung Pay, secure folders and banking apps probably won't work. There is more but that's all that comes to mind right now. Uninstalling root and flashing everything to stock won't fix the lost apps either, it's permanent. I think it will reset your phone too.
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Are you sure about permanent block ?!

A0_o said:
Are you sure about permanent block ?!
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Yes because the past root methods trip knox and blow a efuse witch is not reversible. Unless a different root method is discovered this phone will be no different. As the post says above there are some workarounds but that is not a guarantee. Some apps can not be fooled.

Misterxtc said:
Yes because the past root methods trip knox and blow a efuse witch is not reversible. Unless a different root method is discovered this phone will be no different. As the post says above there are some workarounds but that is not a guarantee. Some apps can not be fooled.
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i have read about some way to root without trip kNox but you have to dont use magisk or xposed just you got an access to system files.

Wish SuperUser root XDA god 'Chainfire' hadn't retired!

A0_o said:
i have read about some way to root without trip kNox but you have to dont use magisk or xposed just you got an access to system files.
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Are you talking about sig. spoofing like Firegapps and stuff?
I'm waiting for anyone who has enough guts to try, all I really want is v4a.
This is the last galaxy I buy I think, prolly go one plus next time. But yea this is a waiting game. I'm waiting for someone to bribe the dev's to prenstall v4a for us in an ota update. Hey be a great April fools joke ....heh

How to completely remove root and relock bootloader from note 8?

I installed a custom rom few days back and unlocked bootloader and rooted it. I installed stock rom after some time, i flashed stock rom using odin but now many apps are showing me an error that my device is rooted, like samsung health, samsung pay etc. I can not use anything. I wanna revert it back to complete stock phone.
Please help me.
Thanks.
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srjsrajan said:
I installed a custom rom few days back and unlocked bootloader and rooted it. I installed stock rom after some time, i flashed stock rom using odin but now many apps are showing me an error that my device is rooted, like samsung health, samsung pay etc. I can not use anything. I wanna revert it back to complete stock phone.
Please help me.
Thanks.
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Hey mate. After unlocking the bootloader and rooting, the fuse on your mobo gets flagged and the KNOX is tripped as 0x1. No way to revert that, as it is a hardware fuse. So, Samsung Pay, Secure folder will no longer work on your mobile, no matter what you do. With right rom and Magisk, you can get SHealth and GooglePay enabled.

jonny908 said:
Hey mate. After unlocking the bootloader and rooting, the fuse on your mobo gets flagged and the KNOX is tripped as 0x1. No way to revert that, as it is a hardware fuse. So, Samsung Pay, Secure folder will no longer work on your mobile, no matter what you do. With right rom and Magisk, you can get SHealth and GooglePay enabled.
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Googlepay is working. Samsung is not. Btw thanks for replying bro.
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I agree with Jonny908. You will need to buy a new phone, or change the board (resulting in a mismatched IMEI) as there isn't any way to "un-blow" a fuse.