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Speaker & Audio-Quality

How is the speaker audio-quality compared to something like HTC One devices?
Is the DAC & AMP somewhere near the quality of the HTC 10, LG V20 or Axon 7?
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I can only compare to the iPhone 6S.
The speaker of the P10 is a bit louder, but on the loudest setting it sounds a bit distorted or overdriven. When I set 2 steps down it sounds like the iPhone 6S in direct comparison. The loudest setting is good for ringtones and they sound really well, if you don't have songs like metal or trance as ringtone.
With headphones (Beyerdynamics DT-770) and some FLAC files I couldn't hear any differences.

Pocketnow made an audio review for the P10.
https://youtu.be/jBzEmOhfcSU

The loudness of headphone output is 1/3 of iphone 7, 40% quieter than Galaxy S7. Not very loud. Both Phonearena and GSMarena confirm this.

I can confirm that the sound in P10 is very nice in Bowers and Wilkins P5 jack.
If you run flacs and Hi-Res Audio its very nice. Blutooth in AAC is also nice.
The Sound in P10 is designed by Hardan Kardon and the DAC is made of Yamaha Commercial Audio
It is well enough loud, if you use the Huawei music app you must run DTS.
Its pros is rock, blues, vokal, acoustic, jazz, funk etc... The sound is egaging, dynamic, detailed and lively better than iphone 4S, and other mobiles ive tried. The phones strongest audio card is something called SEPARATION, between instruments, that is simply outstanding. You hear details of what drum it is, clear vokal, and all the instruments is well placed in a room.
Classical sounds nice, but is not its strongest card, it could have more clarity and focused details..
If your are a Beats head, that damage your ears with hiphop, Skrillex and tekno at high volume, maybe your not satisfyed.
I cranked House of Pain Jump around in Poweramp, and that sounded nice.
HTC 10 should on the papers have better audio sound tho.

But I want to know if the Huawei P10 is ready with drivers to connect a Dac via USB for example Dragonfly.
I ask this because alot of other people wants to know the same.

Works with ESS chipset in the B&O modular for the LG G5.

I prefer to disable DTS. Nice sound but the volume is a little lover than Htc

I just want to give my opinion on this:
I have both the Axon 7 and the P10 Plus and I must say that output is better in the P10 Plus, and I don't understand why.
I don't know what kind of sorcery does DTS mode, but it pumps the sound in a really nice way.
When you disable DTS, Axon 7 sounds better in HiFi res.
Probably is because there is no way to use the AKM DAC on the Axon 7 with a proper equalization, so even when the sound is good, it can't be used along the Dolby Atmos feature. Dolby Atmos only kicks in when using the speakers, or if you want to use it with headphones, it will automatically change to Snapdragon DAC. So far there is no way to use Atmos and the AKM dac together.
I'm using Sony XBA-H1 which I find pretty decent earbuds to test this.
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Its Confirmed by Huawei that P10 use the latest Hi6403 soundchip (typical with Kirin960) that supports Hi-Rez
Its rumoured that Harman Kardon, and Yamaha Commercial Audio group has worked on the sound in P10

It's just to bad that the amplifier is to weak. It makes the volume lower than the competitors.

ClausG76 said:
It's just to bad that the amplifier is to weak. It makes the volume lower than the competitors.
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I don't know, but this P10 Plus sounds better than my Axon 7, and is supposed that Axon 7 is the best audio phone.
Activating DTS make everything more punchier and richier.

The Audio quality is great. But the low volume might be because of some EU regulations.

ClausG76 said:
The Audio quality is great. But the low volume might be because of some EU regulations.
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Problem is that we don't have a way to equalize the output using the high quality dog, because as long as we turn on Dolby Atmos, it changes to Qualcomm one.
Is a pity we don't have a stock or default equalizer besides Dolby Atmos, because is useless if we want the best quality out of the headphone jack.

I don't know if this trick or a simualy trick works
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/how-to/guide-increase-headset-volume-t3624236

ClausG76 said:
I don't know if this trick or a simualy trick works
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/how-to/guide-increase-headset-volume-t3624236
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Is not only about the volume, but more of the equalization, and no trick can help with that.

Galaxo60 said:
Is not only about the volume, but more of the equalization, and no trick can help with that.
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Poweramp?
Just hoping that beta testing is done soon for Hi rez audio version...
Sent fra min VTR-L29 via Tapatalk

Imnotdriving said:
But I want to know if the Huawei P10 is ready with drivers to connect a Dac via USB for example Dragonfly.
I ask this because alot of other people wants to know the same.
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Just connect and Play... I use a dragonfly Red, and It works fine

Have no problems with volume on my Sony 100 headphones jack and Poweramp or Sony music player Hi-rez
But sad not Poweramp has Hi-Rez support for Hua yet....
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Have no problems with volume on my Sony 100 headphones jack and Poweramp or Sony music player Hi-rez
But sad not Poweramp has Hi-Rez support for Hua yet....

Using stock music player with my Trinity Master IEM (2BA drivers, 1 dynamic) and it has the best sound output so far among my existing devices (xiaomi mi3, nexus 5, oppo f1s). The sound is crisp and full. With DTS, everything sounds louder but more artificial.

Hi-Res Audio output

Does Nokia 7 Plus support Hi-Res Audio output?

Use poweramp alpha version for hi res output.

LDAC support already shown for the sony wi-h700 on android p dev beta

I am using poweramp alpha version 705 and the output via jack is 24bit 384Khz.
Auidio quality is great too and is improved after 2 updates..

vishuxperia said:
I am using poweramp alpha version 705 and the output via jack is 24bit 384Khz.
Auidio quality is great too and is improved after 2 updates..
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I have now bought a N7+ myself and I can comment more thoroughly on this.
I was intrigued by the above comment as to my knowledge, sample rates beyond 192khz are reserved for the flagship snapdragon 835 and 845 processors.
I went into a shop and downloaded some 352.8khz samples for 2l.no and to my surprise, not only did they work in google play music, but it sounded great.
Using USB Audio Player plus, I can see that the 352.8khz audio is being downsampled to 192khz for playback by android, I have no idea how the downsampling is done and I would rather it have been downsampled to an exact multiple, but nonetheless at those sample rates, it still sounds great. If you're an audiophille, you'll have an external dac anyway, it's just convenient to be able to play it back.
Dsd dsf files also playback in google play music, and in usb audio player pro, when output to the Android system, they are being output as 24bit 176.4khz.
I accept this as this content is extremely rare, and flagship grade, you're not going to get everything in a midrange phone.
I'll post screenshots and elaborate more on this later.
What I will say is that the headphone output and amp on the N7+ is solid and very decent, it's not as good as the LG Quad Dac on the g7/v30 but it more than does the job for listening to music even on some over ear headphones. It just makes the removal of the headphone jack on many flagship and Apple phones infuriating when you can get hi res audio this easily!

Leonccyiu said:
I have now bought a N7+ myself and I can comment more thoroughly on this.
I was intrigued by the above comment as to my knowledge, sample rates beyond 192khz are reserved for the flagship snapdragon 835 and 845 processors.
I went into a shop and downloaded some 352.8khz samples for 2l.no and to my surprise, not only did they work in google play music, but it sounded great.
Using USB Audio Player plus, I can see that the 352.8khz audio is being downsampled to 192khz for playback by android, I have no idea how the downsampling is done and I would rather it have been downsampled to an exact multiple, but nonetheless at those sample rates, it still sounds great. If you're an audiophille, you'll have an external dac anyway, it's just convenient to be able to play it back.
Dsd dsf files also playback in google play music, and in usb audio player pro, when output to the Android system, they are being output as 24bit 176.4khz.
I accept this as this content is extremely rare, and flagship grade, you're not going to get everything in a midrange phone.
I'll post screenshots and elaborate more on this later.
What I will say is that the headphone output and amp on the N7+ is solid and very decent, it's not as good as the LG Quad Dac on the g7/v30 but it more than does the job for listening to music even on some over ear headphones. It just makes the removal of the headphone jack on many flagship and Apple phones infuriating when you can get hi res audio this easily!
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I totally agree with you, The headphone output is so much better in N7+ compared to similar priced devices in market.
I also own an OP2, OP3, OP3t and LgV20 and among all of these LG is on top followed by N7+ which is saying something about this device.

V30 B&O Headphones Viper4Android Preset

Just sharing my preset for the headphones we get out of the box. Quad DAC is disabled on my device.
Good for all around listening. Experience what those earbuds can actually do.
Extract to main directory.
Enjoy. Let me know what you think.

TheCoryGuy said:
Just sharing my preset for the headphones we get out of the box. Quad DAC is disabled on my device.
Good for all around listening. Experience what those earbuds can actually do.
Extract to main directory.
Enjoy. Let me know what you think.
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Out of curiosity why is the DAC disabled?

TheCoryGuy said:
Just sharing my preset for the headphones we get out of the box. Quad DAC is disabled on my device.
Good for all around listening. Experience what those earbuds can actually do.
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KUSOsan said:
Out of curiosity why is the DAC disabled?
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Yes, why is the Quad DAC disabled?
If you did it on purpose you're degrading the functionality of this phone. It means you're using the inferior Snapdragon DAC instead of the LG Quad DAC.

ChazzMatt said:
Yes, why is the Quad DAC disabled?
If you did it on purpose you're degrading the functionality of this phone. It means you're using the inferior Snapdragon DAC instead of the LG Quad DAC.
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I'm on an AOSP rom. Sorry for not specifying. Also from experimenting with stock, Quad DAC plus Viper drains the battery a bit

TheCoryGuy said:
I'm on an AOSP rom. Sorry for not specifying. Also from experimenting with stock, Quad DAC plus Viper drains the battery a bit
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There are two media player apps which can access the Quad DAC on AOSP ROMs.
One of them even works with streaming services :
zacharias.maladroit said:
Added: USB Audio Player PRO to the first post
and practical proof/experience that it utilizes the quad dac on non-Stock ROMs (AEX, AOSP Extended as example)
PlayStore Link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro
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It's a paid app. The other is free. I'll get the link for it in a few minutes...
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+

ChazzMatt said:
There are two media player apps which can access the Quad DAC on AOSP ROMs.
One of them even works with streaming services :
It's a paid app. The other is free. I'll get the link for it in a few minutes...
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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the other one is Onkyo Player:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onkyo.jp.musicplayer&hl=en

ChazzMatt said:
Yes, why is the Quad DAC disabled?
If you did it on purpose you're degrading the functionality of this phone. It means you're using the inferior Snapdragon DAC instead of the LG Quad DAC.
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Actually it would not matter if the quad dac is enabled or not.
V4A will degrade audio quality no matter what.
V4A will down sample while the quad dac will try to up sample. At that point the quad dac will just act as an amp. Just head over to headfi for a much better explanation.
From various things I've read, if using V4A, it's actually better to turn off the quad dac which actually makes sense.
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BROKEN1981 said:
V4A will degrade audio quality no matter what.
V4A will down sample while the quad dac will try to up sample. At that point the quad dac will just act as an amp.
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No, I understand. I've mentioned it before how V4A downsamples to LOWER . But sometimes I get tired telling people they don't need to use past solutions -- like Viper -- when our hardware has now improved so much.
But now, it's like putting ketchup on a prime cut succulent steak. It's not needed. At the point, pouring ketchup on the meat is detracting from the flavor.
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On an older phone without quad dac, yeah. And I can understand the love people have for older solutions which helped, but they don't realize how advanced the quad DAC is. In one article, one audio expert was amazed at the sound of the LG V30 from the quad which rivalled a stereo component costing $35,000. "Wait..How much does that phone cost?" ($900 at the time, but now on eBay less than $300 for mint LV V30+.)
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Here's some quotes from a discussion about the same on the 2016 LG V20 which also has a quad DAC:
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Using Viper4Android on the LG V20 undoes all the magic the ESS DAC performs.. It downsamples the audio to 16-bit/48kHz after the ESS DAC has upsampled everything to 32-bit/192kHz
Viper4Android increases the audio quality on most (older?) phones. However it is going to decrease the quality on any device running a dedicated DAC.
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lyrical1278 said:
While you might disagree based on your opinion, the fact is Viper4Android does indeed downsample audio. Go back into that same headfi.org thread he mentions and there will be people who conducted tests that show that. You cannot get bit perfect audio quality out of V4A because the V4A driver downsamples (V4A doesn't support HiFi audio), the audio.
This is why I tend to stay away from V4A. Sure, it makes the audio "sound" better but you're running the audio through so much processing things will get lost. V4A is great for when you have devices without a dedicated DAC. But, if your phone has a dedicated DAC or you have a DAC connected via OTG, it's best to go without V4A
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lyrical1278 said:
Here is the thing, you're speaking to opinion. I'm speaking to technical fact. When you use V4A, any audio you use is merely being amplified by the DAC and not being processed by it.
So it does the only thing it can do, it downsamples (since it downsamples any audio above 16/44 by default anyway, whereas Android's mixer upsamples to the max capability of the DAC). I cannot speak to what you feel is dull and such. That's your truth based on your musical ears.
All I am saying is this, V4A is nothing more but an EQ. A VERY GOOD one at that. If I didn't have the V20 or the Dragonfly Black, I would still be using V4A. But I don't, because I have those tools at my disposal. Grab poweramp Alpha or Ainur and you will see the DAC come to life. V4A, and anything after this is my opinion, doesn't do anything close to what an app that lets the DAC do its job can do.
Installing V4A on this phone, again, my opinion is a waste of the full abilities of the DAC.. Using it just turns the DAC into an amplifier instead of allowing it to be the thing that processes audio IN ADDITION TO amplification.
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You guys can say what you want about upsampling or downsampling but in the end what matters is does it sound good and the combo of Viper and Dolby Atmos I have sounds the best to me. I bought a Michael Jackson collection album from HDtracks.com in 192/24 and it does sound freaking good but the majority of music I listen to I will not be able to find in a proper hires quality so the majority of music I have sounds better with Viper.
You guys gotta stop getting so caught up with the science behind it and just enjoy whatever sounds best to you. Experiment. That's why you are on an Android and on XDA

ChazzMatt said:
No, I understand. I've mentioned it before how V4A downsamples to LOWER . But sometimes I get tired telling people they don't need to use past solutions -- like Viper -- when our hardware has now improved so much.
But now, it's like putting ketchup on a prime cut succulent steak. It's not needed. At the point, pouring ketchup on the meat is detracting from the flavor.
On an older phone without quad dac, yeah. And I can understand the love people have for older solutions which helped, but they don't realize how advanced the quad DAC is. In one article, one audio expert was amazed at the sound of the LG V30 from the quad which rivalled a stereo component costing $35,000. "Wait..How much does that phone cost?" ($900 at the time, but now on eBay less than $300 for mint LV V30+.)
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Regarding whether the ess9218p dac can upsample to32/192 i cannot find any information, the chip can play a 24 bit flac without downsampling to 16 bit as in native android but playing a 16 bit mp3 will give an output of 16 bit.

KUSOsan said:
You guys can say what you want about upsampling or downsampling but in the end what matters is does it sound good and the combo of Viper and Dolby Atmos I have sounds the best to me. I bought a Michael Jackson collection album from HDtracks.com in 192/24 and it does sound freaking good but the majority of music I listen to I will not be able to find in a proper hires quality so the majority of music I have sounds better with Viper.
You guys gotta stop getting so caught up with the science behind it and just enjoy whatever sounds best to you. Experiment. That's why you are on an Android and on XDA
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What Dolby do u you use for LG v30?

dami00976 said:
What Dolby do u you use for LG v30?
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I was using the newer one that specifically said nougat on Magisk but now I'm on Oreo so I guess Atmos is a bit trickier to get working with viper so haven't found one yet

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I was using the newer one that specifically said nougat on Magisk but now I'm on Oreo so I guess Atmos is a bit trickier to get working with viper so haven't found one yet
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On latest magisk manager search for Dolby and 3 optiond choose the oneplus X version it works and if your using viper as well download audio modification library

dami00976 said:
On latest magisk manager search for Dolby and 3 optiond choose the oneplus X version it works and if your using viper as well download audio modification library
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Cool thx. I did see that specific one said Oreo but I thought it was maybe just for one plus devices so I hadn't gotten around to checking it yet

Hi-Fi DAC compatibility with custom roms?

Has anyone tried to check if Hi-Fi works in any of the custom ROMs released?
It is one of the deciding factors for me to buy this phone. Even if it's possible later on to include in custom ROMs, that'll be awesome.

May I ask does hifi works in another music player like poweramp..??

penglengpung said:
May I ask does hifi works in another music player like poweramp..??
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I tried it out in a friend's k20 pro [untouched MIUI Rom].
There is a difference while enabling hi-fi mode in system settings and also in Poweramp settings. Enabling both will make a noticeable difference. Won't get loud as LG v30 but the output seems to me is clear and much better than average.

Does anyone know if it works yet?

I have this phone and audio of this phone if just okayish.. my redmi note 3 was wayyyy superior than this phone's audio..

soni.durgesh0094 said:
I have this phone and audio of this phone if just okayish.. my redmi note 3 was wayyyy superior than this phone's audio..
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Maybe check your settings? Cause audio output is far better than Redmi note 3's audio output, (but still behind LG v20).

Va2c said:
Maybe check your settings? Cause audio output is far better than Redmi note 3's audio output, (but still behind LG v20).
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Can u please send screenshot of audio setting you are using and which earphones u r using ?? I am using budget earphones like sony ex155ap, xb450ap, audio technica ath clr100 etc and with all of them budget earphones i find that audio of redmi note 3 is wayy superior. Both in speaker and 3.5mm jack.. audio of RN3 has crisp bass vocals and tribal and background instruments details.

soni.durgesh0094 said:
Can u please send screenshot of audio setting you are using and which earphones u r using ?? I am using budget earphones like sony ex155ap, xb450ap, audio technica ath clr100 etc and with all of them budget earphones i find that audio of redmi note 3 is wayy superior. Both in speaker and 3.5mm jack.. audio of RN3 has crisp bass vocals and tribal and background instruments details.
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First of all, hope you have some quality audio files with you because no amount of good hardware can compensate for that. Check Headphones and Audio effects section in settings if hi-fi audio is enabled.
I use Poweramp as my music player. I'll be attaching screenshots audio related settings of the app (also select hi-res audio for aux input).

Va2c said:
First of all, hope you have some quality audio files with you because no amount of good hardware can compensate for that. Check Headphones and Audio effects section in settings if hi-fi audio is enabled.
I use Poweramp as my music player. I'll be attaching screenshots audio related settings of the app (also select hi-res audio for aux input).
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Dear i use mp3 files as i have more than 2200 songs in my phone so i cant download that much of FLAC files as mp3 is commonly used files. Moreover i have tried lgv20, iphone 6, poco f1, redmi note 3, 4, 5pro, MI A1 etc and with budget earphones and mp3 files (even retro songs of 1960s 1970s years) RN3 plays them soooooo good even with stock music players.. if you haven't tried yet please try.. i enable mi sound enhancer with mi earbuds profile as mi earbuds profile gives background instruments details of songs mp3 and YouTube also
And on which ROM u r on k20 pro as indian global rom has bug of broken equaliser on Google play music (please confirm if you too have)
Also on mi sound enhancer with mi earbuds profile and EQ in such a way that bass bars at 20% height, vocals at 30% height and tribal bars at 40% height.. my RN3, 4 and all other Xiaomi phones as i stated above give sooo loud and crisp audio with those budget earphones (sony ex155ap, xb450ap etc) that u can hardly listen it on max volume but at those same setting and files even at max volume k20 pro sounds too low.. weak in bass vocals and tribal in all department...
Please practically try Redmi note 3 if you can..
Rn3 and k20 pro both have hifi audio but rn3 do not have expressly hifi audio option as there is in k20 pro does this mean unlike rn3, k20 pro compulsory require flac or heavy files and costly earphone so enjoy audio which anyhow be enjoyed with rn3 with mp3 and budget earphones...
I am not happy with audio of k20 pro..
I can go with costly earphone but replacing and finding flac files is not possible in india for 2200 songs.
Please guide

I've used RN3 in the past. Not much to write home about in the audio front . You'll need something better than the earphones you currently own. But if your satisfied with the output, no need to buy new ones.
What I suggest is that you tinker around with the EQ as that will give you sound you desire.

soni.durgesh0094 said:
Dear i use mp3 files as i have more than 2200 songs in my phone so i cant download that much of FLAC files as mp3 is commonly used files. Moreover i have tried lgv20, iphone 6, poco f1, redmi note 3, 4, 5pro, MI A1 etc and with budget earphones and mp3 files (even retro songs of 1960s 1970s years) RN3 plays them soooooo good even with stock music players.. if you haven't tried yet please try.. i enable mi sound enhancer with mi earbuds profile as mi earbuds profile gives background instruments details of songs mp3 and YouTube also
And on which ROM u r on k20 pro as indian global rom has bug of broken equaliser on Google play music (please confirm if you too have)
Also on mi sound enhancer with mi earbuds profile and EQ in such a way that bass bars at 20% height, vocals at 30% height and tribal bars at 40% height.. my RN3, 4 and all other Xiaomi phones as i stated above give sooo loud and crisp audio with those budget earphones (sony ex155ap, xb450ap etc) that u can hardly listen it on max volume but at those same setting and files even at max volume k20 pro sounds too low.. weak in bass vocals and tribal in all department...
Please practically try Redmi note 3 if you can..
Rn3 and k20 pro both have hifi audio but rn3 do not have expressly hifi audio option as there is in k20 pro does this mean unlike rn3, k20 pro compulsory require flac or heavy files and costly earphone so enjoy audio which anyhow be enjoyed with rn3 with mp3 and budget earphones...
I am not happy with audio of k20 pro..
I can go with costly earphone but replacing and finding flac files is not possible in india for 2200 songs.
Please guide
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well i use House of Marley Smile Jamaica Earphones and i find the Audio output to be Excellent via headphone jack. I Listen a lots of indian music via Gaana app.
PS i already have Redmi Note 4 and i find this device gives better output not sure abot RN3 though.
If you really an Audio Freak then try out ViperFX it will give superior output even with Budget Earphones

pritish sahoo said:
well i use House of Marley Smile Jamaica Earphones and i find the Audio output to be Excellent via headphone jack. I Listen a lots of indian music via Gaana app.
PS i already have Redmi Note 4 and i find this device gives better output not sure abot RN3 though.
If you really an Audio Freak then try out ViperFX it will give superior output even with Budget Earphones
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Yes dear .. i too have used rn4 and rn3 also but rn3 audio is on different level.. to each of my frnd i make comparisons to for both phone's audio.. everyone says that rn3 sounds better and loud.. i have sent many feedbacks and mails also to Mi.. Lets see how quick they fix it

It is great, I have some reasonably good KZ IEM and they just sound great with hi-fi mode, was surprised by the details and quality, at last listening to tracks in Tidal with hi-fi/master subscription was very noticeable, I plan to test some amps, there is some reviews talking about THD on high volumes, but in term simply of volume, honestly the phone output is strong, I cannot endure 3 seconds with 100% volume, but maybe it is just KZ, they are somewhat easy to manage.

Va2c said:
Has anyone tried to check if Hi-Fi works in any of the custom ROMs released?
It is one of the deciding factors for me to buy this phone. Even if it's possible later on to include in custom ROMs, that'll be awesome.
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The hifi DAC on the K20 Pro doesn't make a lot of difference.
I have a Pocophone and the both sound exactly the same.

RebornCheiko said:
The hifi DAC on the K20 Pro doesn't make a lot of difference.
I have a Pocophone and the both sound exactly the same.
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Put on a good pair or headphones or IEMs (not $10-$20 bassy earphones) and use Tidal or Deezer and you will see the difference night and day. I have used Poco F1 as well and the audio output through the 3.5mm jack is way better on K20 pro due to the superior DAC used on it.

soni.durgesh0094 said:
Dear i use mp3 files as i have more than 2200 songs in my phone so i cant download that much of FLAC files as mp3 is commonly used files. Moreover i have tried lgv20, iphone 6, poco f1, redmi note 3, 4, 5pro, MI A1 etc and with budget earphones and mp3 files (even retro songs of 1960s 1970s years) RN3 plays them soooooo good even with stock music players.. if you haven't tried yet please try.. i enable mi sound enhancer with mi earbuds profile as mi earbuds profile gives background instruments details of songs mp3 and YouTube also
And on which ROM u r on k20 pro as indian global rom has bug of broken equaliser on Google play music (please confirm if you too have)
Also on mi sound enhancer with mi earbuds profile and EQ in such a way that bass bars at 20% height, vocals at 30% height and tribal bars at 40% height.. my RN3, 4 and all other Xiaomi phones as i stated above give sooo loud and crisp audio with those budget earphones (sony ex155ap, xb450ap etc) that u can hardly listen it on max volume but at those same setting and files even at max volume k20 pro sounds too low.. weak in bass vocals and tribal in all department...
Please practically try Redmi note 3 if you can..
Rn3 and k20 pro both have hifi audio but rn3 do not have expressly hifi audio option as there is in k20 pro does this mean unlike rn3, k20 pro compulsory require flac or heavy files and costly earphone so enjoy audio which anyhow be enjoyed with rn3 with mp3 and budget earphones...
I am not happy with audio of k20 pro..
I can go with costly earphone but replacing and finding flac files is not possible in india for 2200 songs.
Please guide
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You realise MP3 audios are for casual listening, not for audiophiles. You will never be able to understand the difference when using mp3 files and cheap earphones. Even if you buy an external DAC, you would still find it similar to your RN3 which uses regular/normal DAC.

Va2c said:
Has anyone tried to check if Hi-Fi works in any of the custom ROMs released?
It is one of the deciding factors for me to buy this phone. Even if it's possible later on to include in custom ROMs, that'll be awesome.
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HIFI DAC is a hardware chip and has nothing to do with software.

Best headphones for the Poco

I have been using a set of iPhone earbuds and the volume is sooo low I can barely listen to any calls or even music outside of being alone in a very quite room...any ideas of anatomically shaped in-ear headphones that are REALLY LOUD?

axolotl98 said:
I have been using a set of iPhone earbuds and the volume is sooo low I can barely listen to any calls or even music outside of being alone in a very quite room...any ideas of anatomically shaped in-ear headphones that are REALLY LOUD?
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I have some QCY QS2 Bluetooth earbuds which I find myself recommending to anyone who'll listen
They're great, nice and loud and cheap enough (<€20) that you can lose one without heartbreak! Really good battery life too
I doubt they're the best you can get, but they're plenty good and good enough value that you're not afraid to use them

u can try ibasso it01 .. its good iem all around

I have done some research because my budget was 2000INR (28.17USD) and bought a SoundMagic E10C.
Very impressive, extremely balanced sound stage with enough emphasize on lows, mids, and highs. Braided cables. 3 button remote. Metal body. Fairly loud. You get a hard case, two adapters, 7 pairs of eartips including a double flange one. Really satisfied.
Another one I would recommend is Sennheiser 275s, don't own one, but good one, not as good as the above tho.

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I have done some research because my budget was 2000INR (28.17USD) and bought a SoundMagic E10C.
Very impressive, extremely balanced sound stage with enough emphasize on lows, mids, and highs. Braided cables. 3 button remote. Metal body. Fairly loud. You get a hard case, two adapters, 7 pairs of eartips including a double flange one. Really satisfied.
Another one I would recommend is Sennheiser 275s, don't own one, but good one, not as good as the above tho.
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I have been using SoundMagic E10C for a year now. Everything is awesome about these.

axolotl98 said:
I have been using a set of iPhone earbuds and the volume is sooo low I can barely listen to any calls or even music outside of being alone in a very quite room...any ideas of anatomically shaped in-ear headphones that are REALLY LOUD?
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It's all about the headphones' sensitivity - note that getting "really loud" (so "really sensitive") earphones is absolutely not a good idea for your ears - trust me, I already had problems with that, you don't want to listen to too high volumes. So what you need is a pair of headphones that go a comfortable level of volume.
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I have been using SoundMagic E10C for a year now. Everything is awesome about these.
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I agree with that, if you are on a tiny budget these are the best I ever tried.
If you have more budget and want headphones (not earphones) there is the Focal Listen Wireless which spends for 150/200 bucks with Bluetooth and a great isolation - so you won't need to push the volume very high. And still, it _can_ go very loud.
Hope that helped

Best Earphones to match with Pocophone
Try KZ-ZSN Pro or KZ-ZSN HiFi . Really suites the Pocophone and match it with a Ringke Case, The Earphone will mix with the design of Ringke Case:good::good::good:

I've tried several headphones with the F1 . Bose quite comforts , soundmagic E10 ,senheiser hd215 ,August Bluetooth headphones and none of them come close to the Tin Audio T2 hi-fi in ear headphones , they have better detail ,wider sound stage ,very loud and better more controlled bass . The only downside to them is the cable as it tends to tangle ,this can be upgraded as they have MMCX cable connections . They are £42 on Amazon .

Klipsch r6m

Buying good headphones is a nice idea but without V4A, they won't perform to their maximum.
Most users here know that.
I have JBL cs100si, sennheiser cx 180 street ii and boAt 900 wired headphone - all these sound good but with V4A they show what they are capable of.
As far as quality is concerned try and stay away from wireless stuff.
All the best :good: hunting for headphones.

axolotl98 said:
I have been using a set of iPhone earbuds and the volume is sooo low I can barely listen to any calls or even music outside of being alone in a very quite room...any ideas of anatomically shaped in-ear headphones that are REALLY LOUD?
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I use Yamaha EPH-M100 headphones quite loud sound, excellent bass

Sony XB400
If you don't mind wires around your neck.
Try Sony XB400. They are really good for the price point.
They will cost you around ₹3000 if they are on a sale.
The best parts are :-
12mm Drivers.
16 hours of continuous use.
Fast Charge.
Bluetooth 5.0
Works with any Assistant.
And generously good Quality.
I've slept on headphones and also slept while wearing them.
They have gone through a lot of tug and also been stretched many time but they just work fine.
You cannot get better quality at that price.

I am using the usb-c port for Bang&Olufsen Beoplay H3 with Sonata HD DAC Cable II which makes you audiophile crazy. With flac files the music is perfect
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Any planar headphone will be better than normal dynamics but it comes with a pricetag ofcourse )
Phone can drive the isine 10/20 (in ears) from Audeze
These are planar in ears if you want to go crazy with sound

What is v4a?

Pain'07 said:
What is v4a?
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Viper4Android

tiennhu89 said:
Viper4Android
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Highly recommended! You will not be disappointed!
The best headphones I found for my Poco are Shure SE846 ))))

virtos4 said:
Highly recommended! You will not be disappointed!
The best headphones I found for my Poco are Shure SE846 ))))
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~1000USD. I think its best for all phone. :laugh:

It is true V4A reduces audio limit to 16bit audiio playback?
Btw, i am using RHA650, that are working very good, but requires more burnin. For those who are not looking bass heavy earphones, this are best in budget.

wGRV said:
It is true V4A reduces audio limit to 16bit audiio playback?
Btw, i am using RHA650, that are working very good, but requires more burnin. For those who are not looking bass heavy earphones, this are best in budget.
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Yes that used to be the case with Poweramp earlier. Recently however it shows 24-bit 48kHz in Poweramp. Can't set anything higher than 48kHz.
In NeutronMP however 24-bit 384kHz is shown even with V4A active.
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rajeshkoshti said:
Buying good headphones is a nice idea but without V4A, they won't perform to their maximum.
Most users here know that.
I have JBL cs100si, sennheiser cx 180 street ii and boAt 900 wired headphone - all these sound good but with V4A they show what they are capable of.
As far as quality is concerned try and stay away from wireless stuff.
All the best :good: hunting for headphones.
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I have used V4A from the beginning primarily for its headphone-correction feature, namely Viper DDC. Didn't need to tweak anything else. However ever since crDroid's Q builds I find volume to have gone down quite a bit to the point that I really need to crank up the volume when using my Superlux HD681 EVO. In Pie ~85 was sufficient but in Q I need to set it at 92-98. For some tracks even that is not quite enough. For IEMs like Soundmagic E10C or ES18S no issues at all however. Any tweaks in V4A that can boost volume a bit w/o introducing noise? Thanks.