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Could anybody post some sample photos from the kaiser camera at maximum quality settings?, maximum resolution, best jpeg compression...
thanks!

pepeto2001 said:
Could anybody post some sample photos from the kaiser camera at maximum quality settings?, maximum resolution, best jpeg compression...
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http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/

eva_d said:
http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/
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Very good quality.

eva_d said:
http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/
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They are not bad at all. Colors seem a little faded though. Oh well, it's a cellphone!

eva_d said:
http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/
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Eva_d, the new photos are better than the initial ones (the ones yo uploaded to modaco forum), could you try a macro photo?, or some photos with the camera holded firmly to very near objects?, and a recorded video?
Thank youuu very much!!!!

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Eva_d, the new photos are better than the initial ones (the ones yo uploaded to modaco forum), could you try a macro photo?, or some photos with the camera holded firmly to very near objects?, and a recorded video?
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Macro pics just uploaded (note: adjusted white balance). IMHO they are pretty good! Video - don't have yet, maybe tomorrow.

eva_d said:
Macro pics just uploaded (note: adjusted white balance). IMHO they are pretty good! Video - don't have yet, maybe tomorrow.
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That macro pics are very good, I'm beginning to think that the initial photos that werent as good as paul(modaco) samples was because of not holding the camera firmly until photo was done... isnt it?... I'm talking about imag0005, imag0006...

Nice pictures and good quality (focus/resolution).
A scan of a letter would be a other good indicator for the macro function (focus/resolution).
Maybe you can take one more photo of e.g. an advertising letter
or of a journal/magazine with text?
Thanks!

Eva_d, I've seen in the photos you also have a nokia with the keyboard "always visible", do you feel this kind of keyboard (always on) to be better than on the tytn that you must "expand" it all the time?

pepeto2001 said:
Eva_d, I've seen in the photos you also have a nokia with the keyboard "always visible", do you feel this kind of keyboard (always on) to be better than on the tytn that you must "expand" it all the time?
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I must say that kind of keyboard is really convenient, I was using Nokia E61 for almost 2 months as a primary phone, and actually I liked it. But I'm back on board with WM platform.
Btw. I've uploaded example video - sorry for rotation, I did it from a mobile holder in my car. I've also uploaded close-up of texts, as requested - a little blurry tough, I should have done them from more distance.

the video looks really good... the macro shots... maybe there wasnt enought light, this phone cameras have a big shutter lag, this is the time since you press de button and the photo is really done, then, it is really important to hold steady the "camera" till the photo is on screen..
Thanks for your photos again!!

Is 320x240 the highest resolution?

Here some of my "masterpieces"
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great photos, they look very good!!!, any photo with faces?, in a crowded street or something similar..

eva_d said:
Macro pics just uploaded (note: adjusted white balance). IMHO they are pretty good! Video - don't have yet, maybe tomorrow.
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Quite impressive for a cameraphone. I can't believe what I'm seeing actually.
Although http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/IMAG0039.jpg shows that the debayering algorithm used by the phone is CRAP. "maze" patterns like those seen in the sky are a known issue with the simpler interpolation algorithms. Has anyone created a camera app for HTC phones that can save raw sensor data to be given to an application such as dcraw?

pepeto2001 said:
Eva_d, I've seen in the photos you also have a nokia with the keyboard "always visible", do you feel this kind of keyboard (always on) to be better than on the tytn that you must "expand" it all the time?
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The slide-out keyboard has major form factor advantages (phone is smaller and keys are larger), but there are plenty of times I miss my Treo 650's non-slideout "always-there" keyboard, especially when dialing.
Palm has stagnated a lot, but the one thing where they are way ahead is in terms of "non-stylus" operation. Strange that there is a Smartphone Edition of Windows Mobile but many of its improvements are not in the version for phones with a touchscreen.

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Quite impressive for a cameraphone. I can't believe what I'm seeing actually.
Although http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/IMAG0039.jpg shows that the debayering algorithm used by the phone is CRAP. "maze" patterns like those seen in the sky are a known issue with the simpler interpolation algorithms. Has anyone created a camera app for HTC phones that can save raw sensor data to be given to an application such as dcraw?
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Sadly coolcamera doesn't work with Kaiser for some reason.
http://www.ateksoft.com/features.html
I was usually getting better pictures with coolcamera on any HTC phone.

This is a Sample Photo:
Enjoy
Nadavi

wow!, last photos are very good, they show the quality of the camera!!

One more. I did tweaked parameters a bit.

[PHOTO] Show your best P8 shots

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Hey people!
I was thinking about to create thread where users could post their best photos taken with great P8 camera, so i decided to create one.
I hope this thread will be active and many of you will share your shots. Before we start, i would like to write some rules:
- POST PHOTOS ONLY TAKEN WITH HUAWEI P8 DEVICE
- IF PHOTO WAS EDITED, WRITE HOW IT WAS IMPROVED(PHOTOSHOP, SNAPSEED, ...),
- ENJOY!
Okay, here are some of mine:
1. no edit
2. PhotoDirector (small fix of color tone)
3. Snapseed, PhotoDirector
4. PhotoDirector, Photoshop (original was 4:3 so i photoshoped sky to fit into 9:16)

Love the camera
This is just a normal everyday pic without any changes to it.

A few more interesting ones!
One is a light graffiti and other is super night mode. Keep in mind the light graffiti was done using an iphone 5 torch and the supernight mode was really really dark...the street lights in reality are like a 10th of what you see in the picture. So I am quite pleased!

No edit, just normal photos

here is my photos, no filter.

My pictures
Just some pictures of a Xperia Z1 that im selling these are the photos I used in the ad
I am really impressed by the P8 camera. The other picture was the first photo I took on the phone.
The camera is so detailed. Am I correct in saying that the P8 has a Sony sensor?

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Another picture I took surprisingly without super night mode.

Here are some photo's I have taken with my P8
This was taken during a thunderstorm, I used Light Painting, I kept it going for a full minute and this is what turned out...
here are some more -
From my resent visit back to New Zealand

here is one new from me, star tracking mode, more than 40min steady shot + Photoshop

00471 said:
Hey people!
I was thinking about to create thread where users could post their best photos taken with great P8 camera, so i decided to create one.
I hope this thread will be active and many of you will share your shots. Before we start, i would like to write some rules:
- POST PHOTOS ONLY TAKEN WITH HUAWEI P8 DEVICE
- IF PHOTO WAS EDITED, WRITE HOW IT WAS IMPROVED(PHOTOSHOP, SNAPSEED, ...),
- ENJOY!
Okay, here are some of mine:
1. no edit
2. PhotoDirector (small fix of color tone)
3. Snapseed, PhotoDirector
4. PhotoDirector, Photoshop (original was 4:3 so i photoshoped sky to fit into 9:16)
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What the hell, anyway people PLEASE, Try to not post every common photo you take, my idea was to create forum where posted photos are at least a bit artistic or more photography style, this was not supposed to be instagram like, thanks for understanding and I hope the class of this thread will rise, cheers!

i know this is not the best photos but i really like the huawei p8 super night mode capabilities...

one81 said:
i know this is not the best photos but i really like the huawei p8 super night mode capabilities...
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with some touch of Snapseed or Lightroom (both free on Play) it should be very nice photo :good:

but original picture is good enough for me...

00471 said:
here is one new from me, star tracking mode, more than 40min steady shot + Photoshop
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How long was each exposure? If I do more than 8s I get blue, red and white hot pixels appearing.

magnetz said:
How long was each exposure? If I do more than 8s I get blue, red and white hot pixels appearing.
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I don't know bro, as I wrote, it was star tracking mode so it was automatically setup, and it was recording about 42 mins, then I did big color corrections in photoshop, removed noise, that white dots you mentioned are appearing especially in super night mode what I tried

A couple of shots I've liked...

desertflyer said:
A couple of shots I've liked...
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very nice photos!

does it have manual mode or can shot in raw?

Any word on software updates to optimize/improve Camera?

I remember during the Idol 3 launch that there were issues initially (DTTW not working, snapchat bugs, etc) that were addressed in subsequent updates. These things were swept under the rug for reviewers but for people who actually owned the phone, they were able to benefit.
Currently my main concern is the camera and I was curious if anyone has heard any news on Alcatel working to try and improve the OIS or low-light capabilities via software (if that is even possible).

macallik said:
I remember during the Idol 3 launch that there were issues initially (DTTW not working, snapchat bugs, etc) that were addressed in subsequent updates. These things were swept under the rug for reviewers but for people who actually owned the phone, they were able to benefit.
Currently my main concern is the camera and I was curious if anyone has heard any news on Alcatel working to try and improve the OIS or low-light capabilities via software (if that is even possible).
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I don't have this exactly device, but I have the twin brother (Vodafone Smart Platinum 7) and I wrote to a Vodafone customer manager about this.
They told me they will talk with the people in the software department, and maybe in a future they can improve a little the software, but the lack of hardware can't be fixed with software.
My main complain was that the photos most of the time are blurry when trying to see the details, and that we have no stabilization for 60fps and 2K-4K.

Galaxo60 said:
I don't have this exactly device, but I have the twin brother (Vodafone Smart Platinum 7) and I wrote to a Vodafone customer manager about this.
They told me they will talk with the people in the software department, and maybe in a future they can improve a little the software, but the lack of hardware can't be fixed with software.
My main complain was that the photos most of the time are blurry when trying to see the details, and that we have no stabilization for 60fps and 2K-4K.
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Thanks. I've heard good things about the Vodafone version. I currently have the Idol 3, and coming from the Nexus 4 before that, it was a big improvement in terms of photo quality. I've been using my Idol 3 for photos a lot recently and although it is great for well-lit, non-moving objects, I have become more aware of the lower quality pics in low-light and blurry pics in general when there is slight movement. I think the Idol 4S is a step up in terms of quality but still leaves something to be desired overall.
Recently I ended up getting a reasonably-priced digital camera which takes great photos. It really illustrated how good a camera can be. I might just get the Idol 4S and carry my digital camera with me for special occasions.

Updated yesterday to version 010 02 with the august security patches with the Mobile Upgrade Q desktop programm. Camera seems better imo opinion (at least with sufficient light!) and overall performance seems faster and snappier then before. Caution: upgrading with Q will flash the whole rom and wipes the device!. Idol 4S 6070K Netherlands. Realy love the devices`s performance and especialy the great speakers

Saw a video review with a blind comparison to the S7 for photos/videos.
Lowlight is pretty meh and video bounces around a lot, but the well lit areas really give the S7 a run for it's money.
It sounds like the key to using the camera is A) Good lighting and B)Keep a steady hand

macallik said:
Saw a video review with a blind comparison to the S7 for photos/videos.
Lowlight is pretty meh and video bounces around a lot, but the well lit areas really give the S7 a run for it's money.
It sounds like the key to using the camera is A) Good lighting and B)Keep a steady hand
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Pretty much is about the steady hand, because with this you can make nice pictures.
I attach some pictures I made with the phone.
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This pic is stunning. Thanks for sharing

macallik said:
This pic is stunning. Thanks for sharing
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As long as you keep it steady, it indeed does a good job.
HRD is really nice for low lights situations, but again, you must be really steady when taking the pictures.
Regarding the manual mode, is also nice to play with it and you can get some nice results as well.

Manual mode is great for macro and long exposure shots. My friend who works for TCL told me an update to Android Nougat is already under development but no release date is known as of yet.

HughJanus said:
Manual mode is great for macro and long exposure shots. My friend who works for TCL told me an update to Android Nougat is already under development but no release date is known as of yet.
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TBH when my Idol 3 updated to MM, my cell reception went wonky so I am in no rush.

Camera Thread

Thread for posting pics and videos and discussing the camera and its abilities. Definitely interested in low-light still shots featuring motion.

Stay tuned. I'm going to deliver some awesome photography in this thread.

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Stay tuned. I'm going to deliver some awesome photography in this thread.
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Saw a Reddit post that the camera is not true 2x optical zoom, but 1.5x optical zoom with added scaling. Can your shots also speak to this and whether or not it actually matters?
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/6iksgn/what_the_op5_doesnt_have_2x_lossless_zoom_its/
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Oh man, saw the XDA comments on camera with the super blurry puppy pic in what looked like decent lighting:
there can be inconsistent delays between pressing the shutter button and actually taking a picture, leading to missed opportunities (pronounced in puppy or baby pictures)
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https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5-xda-first-impressions-upgrade/
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Here's a scene from my hostel room, the first picture is normal, second was taken with the "2x" mode and the last was taken with op3 running aosp, 10 minutes after the first photos, so it's not apples to apples comparison
Edit: If there's demand, I can take more photos tomorrow afternoon when I get home

No OIS on the OP5 and camera quality is only a little better than the 3T. What a disappointment!

You don't need OIS to take great photos. Helps of course. More so in lower light. I will let you know what I think soon.

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You don't need OIS to take great photos. Helps of course. More so in lower light. I will let you know what I think soon.
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It doesn't have the Pixels amazing EIS so videos will be affected also. The 6Ps videos were horrible because it didn't have OIS.

Much prefer OIS but The lack of EIS on 4k video recording is a deal breaker for me, no stabilisation is horrible on any video recording.
Do you this this could be added later with a software update.?
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You don't need OIS to take great photos. Helps of course. More so in lower light. I will let you know what I think soon.
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OIS or EIS is mainly for video recording without it videos are horrible to watch back, there is NO excuse why EIS is available for 1080p but not 4k video recording.

Until I see the results myself, i.e. tested it in my hands, thats when I'll critique it correctly. Results speak for themselves as they say.

Makrilli said:
Here's a scene from my hostel room, the first picture is normal, second was taken with the "2x" mode and the last was taken with op3 running aosp, 10 minutes after the first photos, so it's not apples to apples comparison
Edit: If there's demand, I can take more photos tomorrow afternoon when I get home
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Looks like taken through a glass window seeing the ghost indoor lamps reflecting in the pictures.

Just tested the camera.
1st image is bokeh effect
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2nd image is 2x optical zoom, would be rude not to get my civic in the picture

Kahun said:
Just tested the camera.
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Take more photos of that VXR mate! <3 Of course with OP5

KamilKiri said:
Take more photos of that VXR mate! <3 Of course with OP5
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I will get one when I'm leaving work in about 2h

Can someone shoot a 4k video while walking for example ? I have an OP3T right now, and the lack of OIS is a real deal breaker for me ... Plus the EIS is not available for 4K videos

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Take more photos of that VXR mate! <3 Of course with OP5
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As requested

Thanks @Kahun , nice cars! Thats my one but I took this shot on my S7. Can't wait for my OP5 tomorrow.

KamilKiri said:
Thanks @Kahun , nice cars! Thats my one but I took this shot on my S7. Can't wait for my OP5 tomorrow.
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Good to see a fellow petrol head xD that photo looks so sick I need to take one like that for my civic

Kahun said:
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They look OK pics. Better than the 3T but not as good as the flagships today.

Al3xxxinho said:
Can someone shoot a 4k video while walking for example ? I have an OP3T right now, and the lack of OIS is a real deal breaker for me ... Plus the EIS is not available for 4K videos
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https://youtu.be/KAqm5L_lGzY
Crazy not to have OIS.

The camera isnt great is it?

What do you all think about the camera? It can't stand up to the iPhone 8+ and also the Note 8
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Compared to my Oneplus 3 the camera is superb!
But that doesn't surprise anyone...

Try the Google pixel camera APK off XDA. The camera is far better than IPhone. Nokia's own camera app needs work
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Compared to Galaxy S7 ,the camera is poor at the Nokia 8.
Really bad quality pic indoors, slow autofocus makes it impossible to take any pics of moving objects.
Asked customer service @ Nokia if there is an update coming for the camera , but they can't/won't answer.
The camera app is also poor compared to earlier Nokias , and current Samsungs.

I'd beg to differ f2dog. Mine took cracking pictures. Using the pixel APK just raised the camera to another level.
Unfortunately mine went back as it kept rebooting and apps crashing.
Just waiting to see what Google brings out tmoz and at that point possibly reorder another Nokia 8.
I was very happy with the results the cameras gave. But as I'd posted earlier, the Nokia camera app needs work.
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For me the camera is also good. If I want really perfect shots, I grab my dslr..
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Taken in the dark.. no messing with settings.
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Compared to Galaxy S7 ,the camera is poor at the Nokia 8.
Really bad quality pic indoors, slow autofocus makes it impossible to take any pics of moving objects.
Asked customer service @ Nokia if there is an update coming for the camera , but they can't/won't answer.
The camera app is also poor compared to earlier Nokias , and current Samsungs.
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Could you please use the Pixel camera and post 2 shots (1 of S7 and 1 of Nokia8) same object if possible, just to compare them.

In Finland Note 8 costs 1029eur, smaller iPhone 8 costs 829eur, Nokia 8 costs 579eur. I suppose extra 250-450 eur gives you also better camera?
I feel that Nokia 8 focus and shooting is pretty fast in defaults (got flash disabled), took attached picture with single shot. When it gets darker images seem to get bit softer, not too bad though. Pretty easy point-and-shoot camera.

issues with Selfie with flash mode
i am having issues on my Nokia 8 using the selfie with flash mode. The whole screen goes white when taking a selfie with flash on. Has anyone experienced that?

bhat_vasu said:
i am having issues on my Nokia 8 using the selfie with flash mode. The whole screen goes white when taking a selfie with flash on. Has anyone experienced that?
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The screens the flash as there isn't a front facing flash

The camera is brill, the app is crap.

That video looks bias though.
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They really need to fix the camera app fast. Its Nokia for christ sakes they are famous for their camera.

srikanthuk said:
They really need to fix the camera app fast. Its Nokia for christ sakes they are famous for their camera.
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The image sensor isn't the best. Mid tier, only so much Nokia can do with the software. However, they should provide more manual control.
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kunjar said:
The image sensor isn't the best. Mid tier, only so much Nokia can do with the software. However, they should provide more manual control.
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the final image comes out fine. Its the time to focus that needs to improve.

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They really need to fix the camera app fast. Its Nokia for christ sakes they are famous for their camera.
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It is not Nokia though, it is HMD and i doubt they have the resources Nokia had, just be patient.

kunjar said:
The image sensor isn't the best. Mid tier, only so much Nokia can do with the software. However, they should provide more manual control.
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It isn't the worst either.
This is the same Christmas tree taken at the same time with an iPhone 6 and the Nokia 8

Actually my old lg g4 takes better pictures than the nokia 8 it is because the sensor and aperture lens limitations but if you are not taking care about pictures it is a good phone
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Google Camera improves thing a lot. Details as low light performance.
Google vs stock camera: