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iPhone 4S vs. Samsung Galaxy S II Drop Test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
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sweet!
this is amazing!!!!
LMAO @ siri when answered "i don't know the answer to this question"
Thanks for correcting. Should have googled "xda youtube post" first before betting the preview was just having some issues.
haha pay €600 for an iPhone 4S and you drop it and look what happens
wtf?
but ... nice test!
jonny68 said:
haha pay €600 for an iPhone 4S and you drop it and look what happens
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that's what insurances are for
That test heavily depends on how it lands on the surface but lack of mass and metal should help with transferring some of the impact
I've made a post in the SGS2 forum but i've dropped my phone without a case several times already and it took some damage on the casing where it hit the asphalt/concrete surfaces multiple times but no cracked screens yet
that's the whole reason why Samsung choose plastic over metal case
makes it more crash resistant by default, in addition to the gorilla glass
however... there's another truth not many site has reviewed or shown.
the sudden heat/cold change can shatter the gorilla lass on the Galaxy S phones easily
of course that will apply to almost anything else as well.
fun video 10char
absolutely brilliant !
lol! thats whats insurance is for
Yes, because everyone chooses a phone looking at the drop tests. Let's get a Nokia 5210 then
Awesome! I'm always dropping my phone lol
Sandwich of two pieces of glass and a tiny strip of metal isn't my definition of "durable and tough".
Samsung chose plastic over metal because it is just better. I've dropped Omnia 7 (only one of two in Latvia) and the glass shattered, however Galaxy S and Ace are more resistant.
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Sandwich of two pieces of glass and a tiny strip of metal isn't my definition of "durable and tough".
Samsung chose plastic over metal because it is just better. I've dropped Omnia 7 (only one of two in Latvia) and the glass shattered, however Galaxy S and Ace are more resistant.
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Yeah they are samsung did a great job designing their devices to take a hit. My captivate has fallen down two flights of stairs and all it did was crack the slider where the charger plugs in didn't even scratch the screen.
The old iPhones could take a drop much better than the 4s, I've watched my brother drop his face first a few times, it was the 3gs, and never did more than chip the edge. Then he bought the original iphone 4 and shattered the screen the first week.
Sorry to hear about your omnia, thats a tough break with only 2 in the country.
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Haha, smooth.
Jsmonkey - it wasn't my Omnia - it was a review sample
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Jsmonkey - it wasn't my Omnia - it was a review sample
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Well thats not so bad then, still that would suck though, and definitely cut down on your review time lol.
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People please stay in topic
the original content is about the material quality of iphone4s vs Galaxy S2 in a drop test
the topic is not about who created a flat screen smartphone/tablet first, nor about apple vs android, there's already a topic for that here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246779
Okey guys, please stay on topic. And keep it civil and a nice place in here. Thanks.
I was very excited to buy the Nexus 4, and I think not being in the first couple of groups that managed to order the phone turned out to be a good thing. Honestly, the user feedback on this forum and elsewhere has pushed me away, especially after seeing and hearing about he back glass cracking on more than 5 occasions. Actually, 2 such incidents would be one too many. And no, I don't expect this to be solved in any future batches...
This is sad, because I am a true fan of the nexus line and stock android, and I was looking forward to 4.2, as well as always receiving the latest updates.
Well, that ship has sailed, and for now, I've gone and bought the One X+, so let's see how much I'm gonna tolerate HTC sense. I saw it as the next best android alternative, and there's no way in hell I would get a non-android phone...
Maybe if LG and Google prove my theory wrong, I'll go for the nexus 4
Use a case, problem solved
I thought of using a case, but the phone is big enough, and I always keep my phone in my pocket. Plus, when I buy a phone, I'm picky and always like to have a physically attractive phone, so I like to show that off. Even those clear cases take away from the overall physical appeal. So, the one x+ seemed like the best choice there as well.
i dont understand the point of threads like this.... do you think that we care that you are jumping ship? are you expecting sympathy or something?
theres nothing wrong with picking X phone over Y phone... get whatever phone you feel comfortable with (One X, iphone, 1990 Motorola Startac) and enjoy it. no need to let the world know of your displeasure
haha, that's a funny little post norazi... this is the nexus 4 forum, and my post was nexus 4 related, so I thought I'd share my views in hopes that google does actually pay attention. I didn't "jump ship" as you say. I'm still supporting android to the fullest, so it's still in favor of google to some extent. I never had an LG phone, so again, no jumping anything here...
This is an open discussion on the nexus 4 forum about the nexus 4, and I'm interested in knowing if others feel the same way
it's best if you don't comment on what you don't understand (as you claimed in your post)
Good luck with the One X+. We need people like you to support other companies flagship phones too, that way the competition keeps manufacturer on their feed and we benefit from the low price. If you Google actually check this forum I hope they do find this post. Maybe they can learn something and fix any current mishaps and problems from happening in the future. As for me I think i'm one of the lucky ones with an N4 without a defect. It arrive with scratches on the plastics but the phone is perfectly fine.
I'm coming from a Galaxy S variant (Vibrant) and I've got to say, the more popular a phone is, the more idiots you'll draw to the forums. And believe me, idiots are always the most vocal. That's why you've been seeing a lot of N4 hate. It's truly undeserved.
I've had the phone for a day and a half and I love it. Amazing device with enough battery to last me a full day with heavy usage (it lasted from 9 a.m. to 11 p.m. on Tuesday, and I was playing with it the whole time). I had Gorilla Glass (first generation, not as nice as GG2) on my old phone and the screen really took a beating, and then some. But with the screen on, you won't even distinguish it from a brand new Galaxy S.
The phone has a very faint rattle if I shake it hard and out my ear up next to it... haven't noticed the rattle in any other circumstance. It's super fast, as you know. The colors aren't washed out at all. Compared to my calibrated display, it's a little warm with whites and blues are a little too cold, but that's nothing a gamma shifts won't fix. The display on my Galaxy S, in retrospect, looks positively cartoonish.
As for the durability... I haven't marred my phone and don't foresee any issues, but maybe other people are just more prone to that kind of thing.
Anyway good luck with your 1X+. I hear it's a great phone and I'm sure you'll be happy with it. The HTC community is generally pretty good since most of the idiots jumped ship and the diehard devs and fans stuck with their first love(d company).
But seriously, there are some really stupid people posting in this subforum and I really wish we Thanking posts had a negative counterpart.
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I'm coming from a Galaxy S variant (Vibrant) and I've got to say, the more popular a phone is, the more idiots you'll draw to the forums. And believe me, idiots are always the most vocal. That's why you've been seeing a lot of N4 hate. It's truly undeserved.
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People seem to think that they are in the majority of a phone's user base on these forum's. They're not.
They seem to think that because this is a Google Phone they're the only people who know about it. They're not.
We are in the minority, and it's a small one at that.
It's a fact that glass will break, it was a relatively common issue with iPhone 4 and the 4S.
Your post sounded like you expected the glass to be indestructible and then got really disappointed and bitter that it breaks just like glass will.
First of all your talking about ~5 out of how many? (a lot)
2ndly I see the same thing on any new phone release usually related to the front glass, dropping the phone is dropping the phone, end of story.
If you are one who drops your phone, then use a case. If you've never broken your screen, don't worry about it.
I've never run a case on a single of my phones, and I have yet to break one. I don't expect this to be any different. (I had the iPhone 4 as well with glass back).
If you really want a pretty looking phone that's not too big, why not just get an iPhone 5 instead? After having the nexus, that's the only phone worth buying on contact in my opinion, since the nexus is off contact and makes contact androids feel like a rip off.
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electric0ant said:
It's a fact that glass will break, it was a relatively common issue with iPhone 4 and the 4S.
Your post sounded like you expected the glass to be indestructible and then got really disappointed and bitter that it breaks just like glass will.
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Well, one thought is that with the iPhone 4/4S you can get cheap replacement back off ebay. The back for the "Nexus 4" contains only cheap antenna for NFC and wireless charging, so I'd expect backs to pop up as well.
I wish people would stop complaining about the glass back on this phone!!!!!
Its glass, if you drop it the chances are it will break SO DONT DROP IT!!!!!
If you drop phones a lot then get an otterbox or something!
I know loads of iphone users and there phones are fine because they never dropped them. Phones dont just explode ( motsly ) on their own so look after your stuff.
My best freind got a galaxy s3 and dropped it 2 days after he bought it when we was out drinking and the front screen smashed!
I didnt go around saying "oh im not getting one of those the screen smashes if you drop it and the plastic scratches".
Not long back i got mad while playing some xbox and threw my controller and it broke... shocking
Please post this on your blog instead.
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Yep, checking texts and yep, BAM...Snatched and sprint.
Police report or Tracing did nothing.
Anyone know of cases that also have chains?
Thanks
The official Samsung protective case has a slot for a lanyard, but I doubt it'd be strong enough to withstand it being snatched from your hands (or you might be left with a case and no phone)
I think some of the aluminium bumper cases have lanyard slots and they'd be a much safer bet for something like this. If I'm mistaken about the lanyard slot you could also insert one between the headphone port and the 2nd microphone, but that might cause issues with noise cancellation.
I think a lanyard with the official sammy case will stop a snatched and grab.
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we'll have concealed carry here is a few more days, so that will stop some a-hole from stealing your stuff...hard to believe this is the only state in the country where you still cant...
If you have a strong enough lanyard, just find a case that works with it. Make sure it is a tough case and it will be strong enough to stay and not break or at least make the snatcher think it isn't worth it to take one.
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we'll have concealed carry here is a few more days, so that will stop some a-hole from stealing your stuff...hard to believe this is the only state in the country where you still cant...
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Yep glock on my butt crack n gerber auto knife in pocket...but if you shoot a fool for that your goin to jail lol,although if its on your hip not concealed and its seen it might detur (sp) somebody trying to rob you....thats f#cked up man sorry
Bit of a sidetrack, but regarding the 'carry a gun' thing, no. Showing a gun on your hip doesn't scare away the really motivated criminals.
It makes you target #1.
And a good video to go along with the info:
Ignore the comments because as usual, on Youtube they're half ignorant and half truthful and half bat-poop insane and half of all phrases using "half" are made up percentages.
This might be a good off-topic conversation so as not to derail the current thread...
That's terrible about your phone getting stolen. Over the weekend I saw this on the news (see link below) about thieves stealing phones and selling them at the mall. I never heard or seen these kiosks before.
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/52009921
I wonder if something like a Sling Grip or Fly Grip would reduce the chances of someone taking the phone out of your hands. It's not full proof, but it could hinder the thief.
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we'll have concealed carry here is a few more days, so that will stop some a-hole from stealing your stuff...hard to believe this is the only state in the country where you still cant...
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you cant in MD. there trying to change it but its going to take forever
apallohadas said:
Bit of a sidetrack, but regarding the 'carry a gun' thing, no. Showing a gun on your hip doesn't scare away the really motivated criminals.
It makes you target #1.
And a good video to go along with the info:
Ignore the comments because as usual, on Youtube they're half ignorant and half truthful and half bat-poop insane and half of all phrases using "half" are made up percentages.
This might be a good off-topic conversation so as not to derail the current thread...
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This video doesn't even talk about the visible presence of a gun being a crime deterrent. Unless you mean concealed carry instead of showing a gun on your hip.
However I do agree with the majority of the points presented.
Going to geek out for a second, but if the perceived reward for the criminal is greater than the perception of the sanction against the act (i.e. getting shot or caught), then the criminal will try to 'get er done' anyway.
In other words, if the person open carrying looks like a target, they will still be a target, but now with a higher priority and more likely to receive a violent opening to the event.
The average Joe doesn't practice with their firearms anywhere near to the level of a soldier or law enforcer. Their retention self defense is minimal along with the very popular Serpa holsters or Uncle Mike's holsters that allow anyone to yank really hard and pull out the weapon.
All that being said, I'm a big fan of concealed carry.
Concealed carry is the dumbest argument for this kind of situation. What would you do? The person snatched it from your hands. A concealed (can't be seen) wouldn't deter the person. You weren't vigilant enough to stop that from happening so you're going to pull your gun and put other innocent people at risk?
And a gun on the hip and can be seen is a bigger danger as far as I'm concerned. One sucker punch and an opportunistic criminal is taking that gun off of you. Another gun on the streets in the wrong hands.
I'm not against guns and all that...I just think some clueless people that watch too much TV think they can go buy a gun and go to the range once a year and all of a sudden are experts on self defense.
I don't know about you, but I don't want to have to kill someone over a cell phone. There's no telling if that person that took off with the phone is carrying either and I don't know about where you live, but here it's usually a group of teens and they could care less about really running half the time. You just have to know to be vigilant when things seem fishy. And if you ride public transportation watch at all stops.
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Concealed carry is the dumbest argument for this kind of situation. What would you do? The person snatched it from your hands. A concealed (can't be seen) wouldn't deter the person. You weren't vigilant enough to stop that from happening so you're going to pull your gun and put other innocent people at risk?
And a gun on the hip and can be seen is a bigger danger as far as I'm concerned. One sucker punch and an opportunistic criminal is taking that gun off of you. Another gun on the streets in the wrong hands.
I'm not against guns and all that...I just think some clueless people that watch too much TV think they can go buy a gun and go to the range once a year and all of a sudden are experts on self defense.
I don't know about you, but I don't want to have to kill someone over a cell phone. There's no telling if that person that took off with the phone is carrying either and I don't know about where you live, but here it's usually a group of teens and they could care less about really running half the time. You just have to know to be vigilant when things seem fishy. And if you ride public transportation watch at all stops.
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Say if you were to wear a chain when the thief was snatching your phone, you'd end up injured. Any material thing isnt worth your well being, man......... or woman.
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apallohadas said:
Bit of a sidetrack, but regarding the 'carry a gun' thing, no. Showing a gun on your hip doesn't scare away the really motivated criminals.
It makes you target #1.
And a good video to go along with the info:
Ignore the comments because as usual, on Youtube they're half ignorant and half truthful and half bat-poop insane and half of all phrases using "half" are made up percentages.
This might be a good off-topic conversation so as not to derail the current thread...
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I cant believe he did so poorly even with all his air soft experience lolol, but who ever said this wont happen cause you are getting a cpl, you dont deserve one. If the theif snachted your phone and ran by time you deployed gun lined up a shot at his back as he ran away from you all yoi would do is put more people at risk
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Sorry, I'm the OP and been ultra busy for days.
Regarding gun carry, I had two of them and didn't stop the snatch and sprinter.
(ok...I'm kind of kidding but I'm a personal trainer, 210pds fit with arms (guns) exposed etc. Stupid joke but....it's all about surprise and speed....and I am (very) fast...a sprinter!
Was a stereotypical 16yr kid, black hoodie, 145 and f a s t! That's his weapon.
I took off but didn't have a chance.
Really crowded sat afternoon in Chicago too... he ran down an alley...I screamed: 'stop him'...guys at the other end of the alley had 5 sec or more to react but just stood dumbfounded and watched him run by. (I guarantEE U, I would have stopped him and enjoyed it, had roles been reversed).
Cop said it's the #1 911 in all of Chicago now.
Easiest $200-$300 to snatch.
Why can't stolen devices be made completely unusable by Samsung/carriers...like completely.
It' d solve the problem.
Nurra said:
Say if you were to wear a chain when the thief was snatching your phone, you'd end up injured. Any material thing isnt worth your well being, man......... or woman.
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I think the visible chain would be a deterrent....they do size up their victims, and seeing that...would likely have them look elsewhere.
If it didn't, don't think much of an injury would occur.
I'm not joining the carrying the argument. All sides have valid points. Although, I did find the two videos interesting.
As for your case situation, it's hard to say what would work best. Not much if you're just using a cheapy TPU case. If you had something like a Defender, you could cut slots, feed some material, like what is used for dog leashes. On the end, inside the phone, I would super glue it to flat piece of strong plastic or metal. The other end, super glue it to form a loop. The material would maintain comfort. Personally, I think it would get old fast.
As a general rule, to really prevent it, one needs to pay attention to what's going on around them. Obviously, you must have used the phone a bit earlier and the thief saw and followed you, noticed you weren't paying attention. We know the rest
Also, sorry to hear about your phone.
OP: Are you not setup with the Samsung tracking facility? I'm surprised nobody has asked yet?
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rockky said:
Sorry, I'm the OP and been ultra busy for days.
Regarding gun carry, I had two of them and didn't stop the snatch and sprinter.
(ok...I'm kind of kidding but I'm a personal trainer, 210pds fit with arms (guns) exposed etc. Stupid joke but....it's all about surprise and speed....and I am (very) fast...a sprinter!
Was a stereotypical 16yr kid, black hoodie, 145 and f a s t! That's his weapon.
I took off but didn't have a chance.
Really crowded sat afternoon in Chicago too... he ran down an alley...I screamed: 'stop him'...guys at the other end of the alley had 5 sec or more to react but just stood dumbfounded and watched him run by. (I guarantEE U, I would have stopped him and enjoyed it, had roles been reversed).
Cop said it's the #1 911 in all of Chicago now.
Easiest $200-$300 to snatch.
Why can't stolen devices be made completely unusable by Samsung/carriers...like completely.
It' d solve the problem.
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If you report a phone as stolen, carriers would blacklist it from their network...of course, this would affect the buyer, not the thief
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I mean, build quality issues everywhere, and not just with the One. I get it that first batch phones are prone to act up, but somehow HTC always have phones like these and not just in first batches. Why is it like this? Don't they have any sort of quality control at all?
Don't get me wrong, I am a happy HTC One owner with a seemingly faultless phone (just a 1mm gap that I didn't even notice, but my younger brother), but this is scaring me, a lot.
With phones costing as much as they do, and only getting more expensive, you'd expect them to be of a certain quality and not just a five-second put together.
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I mean, build quality issues everywhere, and not just with the One. I get it that first batch phones are prone to act up, but somehow HTC always have phones like these and not just in first batches. Why is it like this? Don't they have any sort of quality control at all?
Don't get me wrong, I am a happy HTC One owner with a seemingly faultless phone (just a 1mm gap that I didn't even notice, but my younger brother), but this is scaring me, a lot.
With phones costing as much as they do, and only getting more expensive, you'd expect them to be of a certain quality and not just a five-second put together.
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In all fairness, HTC aren't alone when it comes to bad batches. Literally every phone has had its problems, as soon as a phone hits the masses there's always going to be problems. And in all honesty the one has stood up pretty well. Besides the phone getting hot I can't say that I've has any issues myself.
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dladz said:
In all fairness, HTC aren't alone when it comes to bad batches. Literally every phone has had its problems, as soon as a phone hits the masses there's always going to be problems. And in all honesty the one has stood up pretty well. Besides the phone getting hot I can't say that I've has any issues myself.
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But it seems that HTC have the highest amount of faulty and fault-prone phones. I mean, gaps and things not being fitted correctly. I get that for the first few batches, but now? An acquaintance of mine is on his 5th (fifth) One and the store he bought the original one from (a carrier store but the phone itself is unbranded) has now contacted HTC and he has been promised a Dev edition of the phone and that it will be thoroughly checked before being handed to him.
It shouldn't have to be like that and it's not exactly helping them up from the ground.
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But it seems that HTC have the highest amount of faulty and fault-prone phones. I mean, gaps and things not being fitted correctly. I get that for the first few batches, but now? An acquaintance of mine is on his 5th (fifth) One and the store he bought the original one from (a carrier store but the phone itself is unbranded) has now contacted HTC and he has been promised a Dev edition of the phone and that it will be thoroughly checked before being handed to him.
It shouldn't have to be like that and it's not exactly helping them up from the ground.
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I have seen a lot of them coming through where i work, maybe i've been quite lucky with past phones, but yea you do have a point with HTC, I think that's why they beefed up their repair service, i've got a number for them which I sometimes give to clients and the quickest turnaround was one day (normally 3 - 5 days, as opposed to two or more weeks) which is pretty phenomenal when you consider that the likes of samsung and blackberry take two weeks to get you your phone back and you seldom have any input on what happens to your phone, kind of like your friend getting promised a dev edition.
My desire HD had a GPS problem, and this is actually my third One, the first one had a back button problem, the second i found that it got quite hot and the third was just as hot when stressed, seems that it's just the way this phone is.
Saying all that though, I apparently got quite lucky with my samsung, only had the one and it was perfect for the ten months i had it for, but again people coming in to my work place with SDS, overheating, call related problems like drops and silence, 3G drop outs, broken wifi, screen anomalies, the works, and blackberries, omfg, that company has got build quality issues, the middles optic button breaking and the software, my word i don't know where to begin, freelancing the bbm software is probably the best move RIM have done in years.
Overall i think that some people are simply unlucky with their phones, I think that HTC's aren't too bad in comparison to other handsets but they are definitely one of the companies that have issues.
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I have seen a lot of them coming through where i work, maybe i've been quite lucky with past phones, but yea you do have a point with HTC, I think that's why they beefed up their repair service, i've got a number for them which I sometimes give to clients and the quickest turnaround was one day (normally 3 - 5 days, as opposed to two or more weeks) which is pretty phenomenal when you consider that the likes of samsung and blackberry take two weeks to get you your phone back and you seldom have any input on what happens to your phone, kind of like your friend getting promised a dev edition.
My desire HD had a GPS problem, and this is actually my third One, the first one had a back button problem, the second i found that it got quite hot and the third was just as hot when stressed, seems that it's just the way this phone is.
Saying all that though, I apparently got quite lucky with my samsung, only had the one and it was perfect for the ten months i had it for, but again people coming in to my work place with SDS, overheating, call related problems like drops and silence, 3G drop outs, broken wifi, screen anomalies, the works, and blackberries, omfg, that company has got build quality issues, the middles optic button breaking and the software, my word i don't know where to begin, freelancing the bbm software is probably the best move RIM have done in years.
Overall i think that some people are simply unlucky with their phones, I think that HTC's aren't too bad in comparison to other handsets but they are definitely one of the companies that have issues.
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The One does get hot, there's no way you can get around that and it's the metal that's to blame. I think it goes without saying that metal conducts heat and cold a lot better than plastic. Though the S4 has occasional overheating as well.
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The One does get hot, there's no way you can get around that and it's the metal that's to blame. I think it goes without saying that metal conducts heat and cold a lot better than plastic. Though the S4 has occasional overheating as well.
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Oh crikey yea, the S4 can bake, I had a hard choice between the two, I had the One first, got some white solo beats, two screen protectors and a double dip flip case for free.
I spent about a week with it and was about to exchange it for the S4 and return all my bits, but it really grew on me, not to mention the build quality is probably the best i have ever seen on a phone (bar a few bad eggs of course) coupled with the fact that they're both generally the same hardware bar the overclock on the S4 i decided to opt for the One and since then i'm constantly reaffirmed that i did the right thing, I'd missed sense since the EVO 3D and i'm glad i stuck it out, the S4 for me was a bit floaty, if you know what i mean, everything is really bright and in your face, I knew i would have just put apex and a theme on there and had done with touchwiz, I can still do that on the One but i actually like sense this time round.
Plus there are a lot of experimental features like the air gestures which i knew were just extra factors for possible failings, many of which have already been reported (phone calls in pockets, volume going up and down on it's own, screen clicking things without you doing anything, etc)
I've heard about a few things you can do about the heat on the One, apparently theres a cooling feature in some of the kernels but i'm not holding much hope for it's actual real life performance, i guess time will tell.
dladz said:
Oh crikey yea, the S4 can bake, I had a hard choice between the two, I had the One first, got some white solo beats, two screen protectors and a double dip flip case for free.
I spent about a week with it and was about to exchange it for the S4 and return all my bits, but it really grew on me, not to mention the build quality is probably the best i have ever seen on a phone (bar a few bad eggs of course) coupled with the fact that they're both generally the same hardware bar the overclock on the S4 i decided to opt for the One and since then i'm constantly reaffirmed that i did the right thing, I'd missed sense since the EVO 3D and i'm glad i stuck it out, the S4 for me was a bit floaty, if you know what i mean, everything is really bright and in your face, I knew i would have just put apex and a theme on there and had done with touchwiz, I can still do that on the One but i actually like sense this time round.
Plus there are a lot of experimental features like the air gestures which i knew were just extra factors for possible failings, many of which have already been reported (phone calls in pockets, volume going up and down on it's own, screen clicking things without you doing anything, etc)
I've heard about a few things you can do about the heat on the One, apparently theres a cooling feature in some of the kernels but i'm not holding much hope for it's actual real life performance, i guess time will tell.
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The S4 can take a hike. I could have accepted that it's plastic, but it has a lot of things I don't like:
Glossy/slippery polycarbonate
Physical home button
Ugly design
Samsung
I have been a samsung fan since the S2, but have to say, the build quality of the ONE, even with the so called gaps, is a lot better than the S3 and S4.
The galaxy s2 was amazing for build quality, no squeeking back cover, and withstood drops onto concrete without breaking. The S3 and S4 and squeeking, badly built, dainty devices that break with only minor 1 foot drops.
I've dropped my HTC One, twice, from over a meter, onto stone tiles, with only scuffs to the corners of the housing. Two friends have broken their SGS3's, one twice, with only 1 foot drops onto the floor.
As for overheating, my One gets what could only be described as warm, not hot. Sgs4 overheats like mad.
I think HTC are getting a rough deal, because they aren't Samsung or Apple. As soon as you tell someone your phone is HTC, they instantly lose interest and wonder off lol.
biffsmash said:
As soon as you tell someone your phone is HTC, they instantly lose interest and wonder off lol.
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Oh, don't I know it, lol! :laugh:
dladz said:
In all fairness, HTC aren't alone when it comes to bad batches. Literally every phone has had its problems, as soon as a phone hits the masses there's always going to be problems. And in all honesty the one has stood up pretty well. Besides the phone getting hot I can't say that I've has any issues myself.
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Agreed. OP, head on over to the Apple forums, search for iPhone 5 threads from October last year and you'll see that there were tons of issues with the iPhone 5 on launch from the cosmetic (the electroplating on the chamfered edges was poor and you get screen sensitivity issues when you use the phone while it's plugged in).
I think we're just more sensitive with HTC issues because they've had a really rough time of it the past 24 months -- whether it's in the financial press or among tech sites and everything gets blown out of proportion.
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Agreed. OP, head on over to the Apple forums, search for iPhone 5 threads from October last year and you'll see that there were tons of issues with the iPhone 5 on launch from the cosmetic (the electroplating on the chamfered edges was poor and you get screen sensitivity issues when you use the phone while it's plugged in).
I think we're just more sensitive with HTC issues because they've had a really rough time of it the past 24 months -- whether it's in the financial press or among tech sites and everything gets blown out of proportion.
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I know about the issues the iPhone 5 had. Anyways, I think everyone are praising Samsung because Samsung has a lot of money and easily enough money to pay off reviewers. I mean, why else would anyone with a fully functioning brain even remotely like something made out of glossy polycarbonate and have an ugly design at that?
It's to me something extremely hard to understand, but maybe it's because I think logically, who knows.
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I have been a samsung fan since the S2, but have to say, the build quality of the ONE, even with the so called gaps, is a lot better than the S3 and S4.
The galaxy s2 was amazing for build quality, no squeeking back cover, and withstood drops onto concrete without breaking. The S3 and S4 and squeeking, badly built, dainty devices that break with only minor 1 foot drops.
I've dropped my HTC One, twice, from over a meter, onto stone tiles, with only scuffs to the corners of the housing. Two friends have broken their SGS3's, one twice, with only 1 foot drops onto the floor.
As for overheating, my One gets what could only be described as warm, not hot. Sgs4 overheats like mad.
I think HTC are getting a rough deal, because they aren't Samsung or Apple. As soon as you tell someone your phone is HTC, they instantly lose interest and wonder off lol.
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What rubbish. The S3 or 4 for that matter might feel less strong, but if anything they are stronger and the fit and finish is better. My One (im on my third after rejecting the other 2 for faults) is lumpy on the sides, it has variable gaps all around and seems easily damaged. Its already more marked than my S3 was at the end of its life despite being in a case.
I eventually cracked the back of my S3, I replaced it with a new original part for £8 and sold it on for £300 after a year. I have already seen marked HTC Ones sell for less.
Its a beautiful phone but flawed like no other.
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I know about the issues the iPhone 5 had. Anyways, I think everyone are praising Samsung because Samsung has a lot of money and easily enough money to pay off reviewers. I mean, why else would anyone with a fully functioning brain even remotely like something made out of glossy polycarbonate and have an ugly design at that?
It's to me something extremely hard to understand, but maybe it's because I think logically, who knows.
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No it because your tastes differ and youre to self important to accept anyone elses opinion. I actually prefer the front of the S4, but the back of the One.
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No it because your tastes differ and youre to self important to accept anyone elses opinion. I actually prefer the front of the S4, but the back of the One.
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Lol!
I would accept that the phone is made out of polycarbonate or other types of plastic, but why the hell did they go with the glossy/slippery finish?
The S3 and S4 both feel budget, there's no denying that and one doesn't want to put a case on his or her One solely because it feels so great but I will have to put a case on it because it's more prone to serious injuries than any other phone I've ever had. Plastic seems to withstand damage the most. I think I've dropped my S3 in a lot of various ways. Screen down, screen up, each of the sides and then I remember I dropped it and it literally bounced off on a solid concrete floor and how does it look today? Almost mint. It's got minor scratches on a the back only visible if you look like really close. It's got some color loss in one of the upper corners and that's about it, the screen has no scratches whatsoever.
That's what I liked with the S3. I don't dare drop the One.
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Lol!
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Keep laughing, it just shows im right.
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Keep laughing, it just shows im right.
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I do accept people's opinions. It's not like I'm showing metal phones down their throats. If they want plastic phones, that's fine.
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I do accept people's opinions. It's not like I'm showing metal phones down their throats. If they want plastic phones, that's fine.
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Then maybe you needed to word your comment better rather than sound so self righteous. There is no right and wrong in design.
Its cultural, design is very much a cultural thing. Take cars for example, Americans like their cars massive, bloated, over the top, loud, garish. The Chinese like them bland, slab sided with tiny wheels, ill proportioned to my eyes.
Some like the glossy finish, it doesnt take Samsung to pay them off. after all the designers and whoever signed off the design must like it, and it has sold 10 million in a month..
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What rubbish. The S3 or 4 for that matter might feel less strong, but if anything they are stronger and the fit and finish is better. My One (im on my third after rejecting the other 2 for faults) is lumpy on the sides, it has variable gaps all around and seems easily damaged. Its already more marked than my S3 was at the end of its life despite being in a case.
I eventually cracked the back of my S3, I replaced it with a new original part for £8 and sold it on for £300 after a year. I have already seen marked HTC Ones sell for less.
Its a beautiful phone but flawed like no other.
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No it because your tastes differ and youre to self important to accept anyone elses opinion. I actually prefer the front of the S4, but the back of the One.
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I don't know why you're flaming the other poster: he's only expressing his opinion. Also, what you meant to write was "you're too self-important..."
Seriously, though -- the main critique against the GS4 is that it's ugly -- the reviewers are just afraid of not getting any inside information on upcoming Samsung releases which is why they're circumventing the fact that the S4 is a poorly-designed device.
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Then maybe you needed to word your comment better rather than sound so self righteous. There is no right and wrong in design.
Its cultural, design is very much a cultural thing. Take cars for example, Americans like their cars massive, bloated, over the top, loud, garish. The Chinese like them bland, slab sided with tiny wheels, ill proportioned to my eyes.
Some like the glossy finish, it doesnt take Samsung to pay them off. after all the designers and whoever signed off the design must like it, and it has sold 10 million in a month..
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In the first place, those sales figures are meaningless absent context: you have to ask things like: did Samsung subsidize the sales? Was there a discount incentive to order in bulk? How many units were available to ship? Also, you have to take into account the fact that there were production issues with the HTC One.
Besides, HTC have come and said that they've sold 5 of the One. That isn't too bad considering that Samsung can outspend everyone outside of Apple to market their devices -- and that includes giving retailers sales incentives and their more aggressive advertising.
All I can say is this.
I had an s2 for about 2yrs and the main problems I had with it was, the charger port going out. Overheating, it would get almost burning hot in my pocket, and with the jelly bean update the battery die way to fast. Would lose 3-5% just by unplugging.
The s3 didn't add much I wanted so I didn't get one
My friend did and had the s2 before. Said it wasn't much of a change and that the s3 was cheap. He broke the battery back, chip the sides and then finally broke the screen.
Had the phone not about 6months. He said his old s2 was build better and last longer then that and he went back to it once the s3 was done.
To me the HTC one feels nice and I don't have a problem with anything. No overheating, crazy battery, I haven't drop it but I'm willing to beat it won't fall apart like a s3 or s4.
But to each his own. There is people who look iPhones but imo they are cheap parts of crap. Have replaced way to many screens for people that drop them from small Heights.
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I don't know why you'r flaming the other poster: he's only expressing his opinion. Also, what you meant to write was "you're too self-important..."
Seriously, though -- the main critique against the GS4 is that it's ugly -- the reviewers are just afraid of not getting any inside information on upcoming Samsung releases which is why they're circumventing the fact that the S4 is a poorly-designed device.
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Why? Well this is what he said..
'It's to me something extremely hard to understand, but maybe it's because I think logically, who knows. '
So anyone who likes the S4 is not thinking logically? There is no logic to taste anyway..
I have said this before in previous threads but the S4 is a quality device. Its made of good quality plastic, and crucially, its made well. The HTC is also made of good quality materials, but its made badly. Whether you like how the material are used is not a build quality issue, its an issue of taste.
I'll try to word my sentences better next time. Sometimes, they sound better in my head and in my native language then come out sounding completely wrong in English. ^^
Was a very light fall, one that my N5 has survived tons of times. From my pants pocket straight to the cafe floor. Screen is shattered. Very surprised and disappointed by quality of the N6.
Anyway, if I didn't get the insurance with the carrier (which I didn't), am I SOL? Is Google themselves offering a free replacement? I heard some news that they were doing that for the Nexus 5?
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Was a very light fall, one that my N5 has survived tons of times. From my pants pocket straight to the cafe floor. Screen is shattered. Very surprised and disappointed by quality of the N6.
Anyway, if I didn't get the insurance with the carrier (which I didn't), am I SOL? Is Google themselves offering a free replacement? I heard some news that they were doing that for the Nexus 5?
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first, why are you disappointed in the quality of the N6 since you dropped it? that's not a quality issue.
second, you may be in luck with google's one time replacement program if you call them. it was pretty widely reported about them doing it for the N5, but i've heard a few blurbs about them doing it with the N6 too. never hurts to call and ask.
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first, why are you disappointed in the quality of the N6 since you dropped it? that's not a quality issue.
second, you may be in luck with google's one time replacement program if you call them. it was pretty widely reported about them doing it for the N5, but i've heard a few blurbs about them doing it with the N6 too. never hurts to call and ask.
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The Google one time replacement was only for phones purchased from the Play Store.
People have had this problem in the past and Motorola was willing to fix the shattered screen for ~$200.
Also agreed with Lucke here, not sure why a person would be disappointed in the quality. Its the user's fault for dropping their phone and not protecting it with a case. Yeah its not as durable as phones in the past like Nokia phones but thats the trade off you have to pay for having a big screen.
All the Nexus 6 fanbois need to take it easy (I am a N6 fan too here). I have been around enough smartphones including past Nexi to say that a light fall from pocket to floor should not shatter the screen. Yeah, that's a usability and 'quality' issue. More of a product design issue if you want to get technical.
The point about google offering a replacement only if it was purchased from playstore - exactly those sorts of intel I was looking for. It then does seem like I am SOL. Will keep you guys posted.
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Was a very light fall, one that my N5 has survived tons of times. From my pants pocket straight to the cafe floor. Screen is shattered. Very surprised and disappointed by quality of the N6.
Anyway, if I didn't get the insurance with the carrier (which I didn't), am I SOL? Is Google themselves offering a free replacement? I heard some news that they were doing that for the Nexus 5?
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Did you purchase it at full price using a credit card? If so, check to see if you card offers protection. I know a couple of my cards will cover theft/accidental damage for the first 6 months, and will offer extended warranty (not for accidental damage) for 1 year after manufacturer warranty expires.
One of my other cards will cover damage to the phone as long as I'm paying my cellphone bill using that card.
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xxaarraa said:
All the Nexus 6 fanbois need to take it easy (I am a N6 fan too here). I have been around enough smartphones including past Nexi to say that a light fall from pocket to floor should not shatter the screen. Yeah, that's a usability and 'quality' issue. More of a product design issue if you want to get technical.
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It really depends on how it falls. If it falls face down from a few feet, directly onto a stone, there isn't any screen that won't break. A tempered glass protector may help in those scenarios.
If it falls at an angle, it may survive. If it falls almost vertical, again, the sceen will likely shatter from the side impact.
xxaarraa said:
Was a very light fall, one that my N5 has survived tons of times. From my pants pocket straight to the cafe floor. Screen is shattered. Very surprised and disappointed by quality of the N6.
Anyway, if I didn't get the insurance with the carrier (which I didn't), am I SOL? Is Google themselves offering a free replacement? I heard some news that they were doing that for the Nexus 5?
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You're not SOL - thankfully you asked here on XDA, so that entitles you to a free brand new N6 replacement! Just go ahead and email Moto and link them to this thread and you'll get your new replacement phone shipped overnight!
Of course you're SOL. You could've used Google to search for your answer instead of wasting time here.
xxaarraa said:
All the Nexus 6 fanbois need to take it easy (I am a N6 fan too here). I have been around enough smartphones including past Nexi to say that a light fall from pocket to floor should not shatter the screen. Yeah, that's a usability and 'quality' issue. More of a product design issue if you want to get technical.
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glass can break just from dropping it on the floor? color me surprised.
in other news, grass is green, water is wet and Latinos like Obama's immigration policy
seriously dude, you dropped the phone and you are calling it defective because the glass broke? gorilla glass is not shatter proof like so many people seem to think, it's hardened glass that is scratch resistant (not scratch proof).
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The Google one time replacement was only for phones purchased from the Play Store.
People have had this problem in the past and Motorola was willing to fix the shattered screen for ~$200.
Also agreed with Lucke here, not sure why a person would be disappointed in the quality. Its the user's fault for dropping their phone and not protecting it with a case. Yeah its not as durable as phones in the past like Nokia phones but thats the trade off you have to pay for having a big screen.
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Hey what's this Google One Time Replacement thing? I bought mine from the play store. This info might come in useful later.
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All the Nexus 6 fanbois need to take it easy (I am a N6 fan too here). I have been around enough smartphones including past Nexi to say that a light fall from pocket to floor should not shatter the screen. Yeah, that's a usability and 'quality' issue. More of a product design issue if you want to get technical.
The point about google offering a replacement only if it was purchased from playstore - exactly those sorts of intel I was looking for. It then does seem like I am SOL. Will keep you guys posted.
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Lordy. And the n6 has a far larger piece of glass in it than any of those devices. Bigger pieces of anything like glass will break more easily.
Yes you are SOL.
No it isn't a design flaw.
Yes you need to not be a klutz with $700 tablet.
Yes, you need to own and take responsibility for your own screwups.
montez.061- said:
Talking about kicking a man while he down.... Geez. Here's an idea.... PUT INSURANCE ON IT RIGHT NOW... And get it replaced in a couple of weeks
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it's not kicking a man while he's down... he's calling it a defect because his glass screen broke when HE dropped it...
it's similar to me calling my car defective after crashing it into a wall. what did he really think was going to happen?
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Talking about kicking a man while he down.... Geez. Here's an idea.... PUT INSURANCE ON IT RIGHT NOW... And get it replaced in a couple of weeks
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haha, yeah, I am very surprised by the "people" on this thread. I didn't expect this sort of crowd on XDA, I thought people here were nice. What I asked in the thread wasn't anyone's opinion or advice on how to treat my smartphone. I asked for specific content on Google's and Tmobile's policies in this regard.
To all the other fanbois up above, listen up. Yeah, a poorly designed product is one that shatters from a small fall. To the genius above who used a car analogy, yeah, if your Mercedes S-class breaks in half because you nicked your bumper while backing up in your garage, you should rightfully be upset. Anyone who knows product design 101 will know that designing a $700 smartphone that doesn't survive a small fall is poor design. No, I am not *****ing since I dropped my phone and broke it. I actually really like the N6 and would get another one. Realizing a design flaw doesn't mean you can't appreciate all the other good things about the device.
I already called Google and Tmobile, and one of them hooked me up so my replacement phone has already been shipped.. If not for the fanboi attitude on this thread, I would have been happy to share the information. But no thanks.
Happy holidays folks.
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haha, yeah, I am very surprised by the "people" on this thread. I didn't expect this sort of crowd on XDA, I thought people here were nice. What I asked in the thread wasn't anyone's opinion or advice on how to treat my smartphone. I asked for specific content on Google's and Tmobile's policies in this regard.
To all the other fanbois up above, listen up. Yeah, a poorly designed product is one that shatters from a small fall. To the genius above who used a car analogy, yeah, if your Mercedes S-class breaks in half because you nicked your bumper while backing up in your garage, you should rightfully be upset. Anyone who knows product design 101 will know that designing a $700 smartphone that doesn't survive a small fall is poor design. No, I am not *****ing since I dropped my phone and broke it. I actually really like the N6 and would get another one. Realizing a design flaw doesn't mean you can't appreciate all the other good things about the device.
I already called Google and Tmobile, and one of them hooked me up so my replacement phone has already been shipped.. If not for the fanboi attitude on this thread, I would have been happy to share the information. But no thanks.
Happy holidays folks.
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Good to hear you got it worked out.
1) We do not support or talk about insurance fraud on XDA.
2) We do not use foul language on XDA.
3) Since this is resolved. Thread Closed.