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I've been rocking a Droid Razr M for a while, epic phone!
But I've had my eye on the Moto X since I first heard about it... it just is a fantastic phone from all I've been reading and watching.
Problem is... I'm outside the states. I'm an European currently living in Bolivia.
I can easily get a Moto X same way I got my Razr M => Ebay! .. thing is.. will it work?
The Verizon Droid Razr M worked even before I unlocked it's bootloader etc.. will the Moto X ?
It should work no problem as long as you sim-unlock the phone. I'm using an AT&T Moto X in Canada and it works wonders.
Just make sure you get the correct phone either gsm or CDMA, of course it depends on what system carriers have in your particular country. I can verify that all gsm Roms ie T-Mobile and at&t work on my rogers gsm phone
Sent on my Moto X
flashallthetime said:
Just make sure you get the correct phone either gsm or CDMA, of course it depends on what system carriers have in your particular country. I can verify that all gsm Roms ie T-Mobile and at&t work on my rogers gsm phone
Sent on my Moto X
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oh thank you!
To be honest until very recently I didn't even knew there was diferent kinds of networks
all I knew was about diferent frequencies used in diferent contries, for example before coming to Bolivia I bought a Galaxy Ace 2 in Portugal, unlocked. To my surprise when I got to Bolivia it didn't work with 3g networks... just crappy slow 2g internet.
So.. at what Moto X's should I look at? I have no idea which companies use GSM or CDMA. Here in Bolivia it's GSM. (I'm 99% sure, as I had to GSM fix the rom's I installed on my Razr M.. Sorry for still being such a newbie, this is all pretty new to me)
SrPintas said:
...To be honest until very recently I didn't even knew there was diferent kinds of networks
all I knew was about diferent frequencies used in diferent contries, for example before coming to Bolivia I bought a Galaxy Ace 2 in Portugal, unlocked. To my surprise when I got to Bolivia it didn't work with 3g networks... just crappy slow 2g internet.
So.. at what Moto X's should I look at? I have no idea which companies use GSM or CDMA. Here in Bolivia it's GSM. (I'm 99% sure, as I had to GSM fix the rom's I installed on my Razr M.. Sorry for still being such a newbie, this is all pretty new to me)
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Your Droid Razr M was likely a Verizon device (Any with the DROID in their name was due to Verizon licensing "Droid" from Lucas LTD). As such it was CDMA and LTE Band 13 (700MHz range). It also came with quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900) radio for global roaming. Not sure what "GSM FIX" you did, as Moto's web site says it also supports HSPA/UMTS on 850/900/1900/2100MHz.
The X supports the same, but adds support for faster HSPA+ on those same frequencies, and eventually will add LTE band 4 support with a future firmware update.
All Verizon LTE devices are SIM unlocked.
If you only got EDGE with the Razr M, you have a GSM carrier that uses other bands than the Verizon phones support. I'd look for the T-Mobile version of the X, or even the ATT over the Verizon version. From what I understand you can unlock the boot loader on the T-Mobile version. The ATT has a locked bootloader and is SIM locked too. I think the T-Mobile version is not SIM locked, but I could be wrong.
But without knowing what frequencies your carrier supports, its really hard to say.
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Your Droid Razr M was likely a Verizon device (Any with the DROID in their name was due to Verizon licensing "Droid" from Lucas LTD). As such it was CDMA and LTE Band 13 (700MHz range). It also came with quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900) radio for global roaming. Not sure what "GSM FIX" you did, as Moto's web site says it also supports HSPA/UMTS on 850/900/1900/2100MHz.
The X supports the same, but adds support for faster HSPA+ on those same frequencies, and eventually will add LTE band 4 support with a future firmware update.
All Verizon LTE devices are SIM unlocked.
If you only got EDGE with the Razr M, you have a GSM carrier that uses other bands than the Verizon phones support. I'd look for the T-Mobile version of the X, or even the ATT over the Verizon version. From what I understand you can unlock the boot loader on the T-Mobile version. The ATT has a locked bootloader and is SIM locked too. I think the T-Mobile version is not SIM locked, but I could be wrong.
But without knowing what frequencies your carrier supports, its really hard to say.
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Sorry I explained myself wrong.
The Razr M worked fine out of the box. I had to do a GSM fix for some of the Roms I installed.
It was with the Ace II that I only had EDGE.
You said something super there! All LTE Verizon phones are SIM unlocked? Is that for sure? so if I get a Moto X from Verizon, it's gonna work here for sure
That's great news!
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Sorry I explained myself wrong.
The Razr M worked fine out of the box. I had to do a GSM fix for some of the Roms I installed.
It was with the Ace II that I only had EDGE.
You said something super there! All LTE Verizon phones are SIM unlocked? Is that for sure? so if I get a Moto X from Verizon, it's gonna work here for sure
That's great news!
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Yes, their LTE phones are SIM unlocked. Its due to the rules around the 700mhz spectrum they got.
That being said, the latest update to my VZW Samsung Galaxy S4 changed it to that I now have to manually enter the T-Mobile APN settings when I put my T-Mobile USA sim in it. With the MDK and ME7 roms, the came down automatically. I'll have to try the X with the Tmo SIM in it if I get a chance later today to see if its manual or automatic.
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Yes, their LTE phones are SIM unlocked. Its due to the rules around the 700mhz spectrum they got.
That being said, the latest update to my VZW Samsung Galaxy S4 changed it to that I now have to manually enter the T-Mobile APN settings when I put my T-Mobile USA sim in it. With the MDK and ME7 roms, the came down automatically. I'll have to try the X with the Tmo SIM in it if I get a chance later today to see if its manual or automatic.
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Thank you, that'd be great help!
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...I'll have to try the X with the Tmo SIM in it if I get a chance later today to see if its manual or automatic.
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Ok, I just tried... first some info... My Moto X is Stock 16gig from Verizon (not rooted, not a dev edition), with the latest OTA update Verizon pushed (that fixes camera). System Version: 139.15.1.ghost_verizon build 13.9.0Q2.x-116-MX-17-57-x-1. The phone is in "Global" mode, with global roaming settings enabled for all trips. The T-Mobile sim is from my Samsung Galaxy S3 T-Mobile USA (work device).
I powered off the X, removed my Verizon SIM, put in the T-Mo USA sim, and powered it up. The X notifies me "this sim is from an unknown provider." I got an Edge signal. I see T-Mobile on the lock screen. After a another power off/on, I get H+ using the T-Mobile SIM.
Data works - Tested via Chrome and visiting web sites. BB Messenger signs in as well.
SMS works - I sent an SMS from X to my Verizon iPhone 5s (other work phone), it was received fine on the iPhone and reported the T-Mobile phone number. Sent a SMS from my iPhone 5 to the T-Mo phone number, it was received fine on the X.
MMS works - Sent a picture taken on the X to my iP5s, and one from the my iP5s to the X. They were both sent/received just fine.
Calling works - Called my T-Mo USA number from my iP5s, and the X rang was able to answer and talk fine. Called iP5s number from the X, and call came in on my iP5s identified with my T-Mo USA number, was able to answer and talk fine.
All this works WITHOUT manually entering the APN settings on the X when the T-Mobile SIM is in there. But based on the VZW GS4, there is no guarantee the X will remain this way, and you may eventually have to manually enter your APN settings. The again, your wireless carrier may require you to manually enter the APN settings.. I don't know.
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Ok, I just tried... first some info... My Moto X is Stock 16gig from Verizon (not rooted, not a dev edition), with the latest OTA update Verizon pushed (that fixes camera). System Version: 139.15.1.ghost_verizon build 13.9.0Q2.x-116-MX-17-57-x-1. The phone is in "Global" mode, with global roaming settings enabled for all trips. The T-Mobile sim is from my Samsung Galaxy S3 T-Mobile USA (work device).
I powered off the X, removed my Verizon SIM, put in the T-Mo USA sim, and powered it up. The X notifies me "this sim is from an unknown provider." I got an Edge signal. I see T-Mobile on the lock screen. After a another power off/on, I get H+ using the T-Mobile SIM.
Data works - Tested via Chrome and visiting web sites. BB Messenger signs in as well.
SMS works - I sent an SMS from X to my Verizon iPhone 5s (other work phone), it was received fine on the iPhone and reported the T-Mobile phone number. Sent a SMS from my iPhone 5 to the T-Mo phone number, it was received fine on the X.
MMS works - Sent a picture taken on the X to my iP5s, and one from the my iP5s to the X. They were both sent/received just fine.
Calling works - Called my T-Mo USA number from my iP5s, and the X rang was able to answer and talk fine. Called iP5s number from the X, and call came in on my iP5s identified with my T-Mo USA number, was able to answer and talk fine.
All this works WITHOUT manually entering the APN settings on the X when the T-Mobile SIM is in there. But based on the VZW GS4, there is no guarantee the X will remain this way, and you may eventually have to manually enter your APN settings. The again, your wireless carrier may require you to manually enter the APN settings.. I don't know.
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Thank you. It behaves like my Razr M did, I get a warning but then it all works anyway!
So even if something changes in the future it would be that I have to enter the Apn manually? this is Bolivia, there's no such thing as NOT entering the APN manually !! ahah =)
Wow that's super!
The Moto X is by far the best Android phone out there for me. I hate big phones... it's like a cancer on Android Flagships.
That's why I really like the Razr M, performance and small size (about the size of an iphone 5, for comparisson sake) and the Moto X aint that much bigger and comes with kickass OS from start.. I kinda had given up on owning one, now I can look into it again! =D
Thank you!
SrPintas said:
Thank you. It behaves like my Razr M did, I get a warning but then it all works anyway!
So even if something changes in the future it would be that I have to enter the Apn manually?
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yes, I would think it should behave the same as the Razr M.
As for the future.. I do not expect Verizon to SIM lock (due to FCC rules), and the only change I've seen so far on my GS4 is now having to manually enter the APN settings... NOTE: now that I manually have to enter the APN settings on the GS4, sending/receiving MMS hasn't worked. So either I got a setting wrong, or something is missing. I've compared the APN settings between the X, Lumia 928 and GS4 when the T-Mo sim is in each, and they appear to be the same so I'm not sure why the GS4 doesn't work. But i you are manually entering your APN settings on the Razr M and its working, I'd expect the X to work no problem.
I have another question. It's pretty hard to get a Moto X safely here in Bolivia. I'll have to buy from ebay, and not only there's a chance that it gets "lost" during transport (not frequent, but can happen) but also the fact that corruption is HIIIIIIIGHHHH here and the customs guys love to basically rob foreigns... I had to drop a big bill when I imported my Razr M to release it from customs office.
So, to avoid all that I thought of something, I have a collegue in faculty whose from Canada and he's going to Canada for Xmas. He could get a Moto X there for me and bring it over with him safely. Question is, are Moto X's in Canada GSM compatible? if so which ones etc, what should I look for and what to avoid?
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yes, I would think it should behave the same as the Razr M.
As for the future.. I do not expect Verizon to SIM lock (due to FCC rules), and the only change I've seen so far on my GS4 is now having to manually enter the APN settings... NOTE: now that I manually have to enter the APN settings on the GS4, sending/receiving MMS hasn't worked. So either I got a setting wrong, or something is missing. I've compared the APN settings between the X, Lumia 928 and GS4 when the T-Mo sim is in each, and they appear to be the same so I'm not sure why the GS4 doesn't work. But i you are manually entering your APN settings on the Razr M and its working, I'd expect the X to work no problem.
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SrPintas said:
I have another question. It's pretty hard to get a Moto X safely here in Bolivia. I'll have to buy from ebay, and not only there's a chance that it gets "lost" during transport (not frequent, but can happen) but also the fact that corruption is HIIIIIIIGHHHH here and the customs guys love to basically rob foreigns... I had to drop a big bill when I imported my Razr M to release it from customs office.
So, to avoid all that I thought of something, I have a collegue in faculty whose from Canada and he's going to Canada for Xmas. He could get a Moto X there for me and bring it over with him safely. Question is, are Moto X's in Canada GSM compatible? if so which ones etc, what should I look for and what to avoid?
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The Moto X is available in Canada only on Rogers and Fido and its the XT1058 version. While it has the same frequencies as the AT&T and a few others, it also allows you to unlock the bootloader via Moto's website.
Right now only the 16GB version is available in black or white.
A good comparison chart of all of the versions of the Moto X is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X#Variants
Got my unlocked AT&T Moto X from eBay ; works just perfect in the Netherlands, w/o any further modifications.
Have your friend buy a Rogers/Fido Moto X in Canada. They are all XT1058s, same as the AT&T model however the bootloader can be unlocked and the phone can be sim unlocked easily for 8 bucks. They are also completely unbranded, no provider markings on the case or in the firmware.
If your friend is lucky he can find a dealer to sell him one for $450.00 cdn, (about 440.00 USD)
Steve-x said:
Have your friend buy a Rogers/Fido Moto X in Canada. They are all XT1058s, same as the AT&T model however the bootloader can be unlocked and the phone can be sim unlocked easily for 8 bucks. They are also completely unbranded, no provider markings on the case or in the firmware.
If your friend is lucky he can find a dealer to sell him one for $450.00 cdn, (about 440.00 USD)
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Oh that is kickass!
thanks a lot for all the input!
Is the sprint version of the phone globally unlocked as well?
Can I buy a Sprint moto x and use a GSM Sim card in Latin America?
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gabo_e30 said:
Can I buy a Sprint moto x and use a GSM Sim card in Latin America?
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Edit: Most US carriers should sell them unlocked, confirmed for AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon. I've seen conflicting stories on Sprint. Verizon also may limit some other functionality like forwarding calls for Google Voice, but that's generally a US-only service. Republic Wireless may be locked as well.
bmszabo said:
Got my unlocked AT&T Moto X from eBay ; works just perfect in the Netherlands, w/o any further modifications.
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Did you buy it already unlocked? I just bought mine on ebay, but its still new in box but bought off contract
RobHands said:
Did you buy it already unlocked? I just bought mine on ebay, but its still new in box but bought off contract
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Yes, according to description on eBay 'unlocked AT&T model'. Package was evidently opened, also on pics, for unlocking, as stated, otherwise unused, everything in original packaging, state, even protection folie on the phone.
After inserting my Dutch sim card started up w/o any problems!
And bonus; let it shipped as 'used item' (matter of fact is; package opened), so hadn't bothered customs office (pretty money hungry here in the Netherlands) neither..
Hi all. If I purchase one of Moto X Sprint, ATT, Verizon
version, can I use it on our Europe network regarding
SIM lock?
Sorry I'm rookie about Moto X, I use so far other Moto Droid2 and Droid4 only.
Att you have to Sim unlock but its pretty easy to find some place online to do it for $10-15
The verizon and t mobile ones come unlocked.
Sprint and us cellular ones I think you have to be a customer to unlock so not easy to do.
You could also get some of the pre unlocked Latin ones.
sleepyguy007 said:
Att you have to Sim unlock but its pretty easy to find some place online to do it for $10-15
The verizon and t mobile ones come unlocked.
Sprint and us cellular ones I think you have to be a customer to unlock so not easy to do.
You could also get some of the pre unlocked Latin ones.
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Special thanks for your detailed answer!
About Sprint ( I found cheaper new device ) you said not to easy, so
can I found solution on XDA or impossible?
Regards
zsebob said:
Special thanks for your detailed answer!
About Sprint ( I found cheaper new device ) you said not to easy, so
can I found solution on XDA or impossible?
Regards
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New device, cheaper than the other, why.....?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-SEALE...1010755429?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item43c197bb65
Please help. I'm purchase Sprint Motorola Moto X and need to activate it and make sim unlock.
I got the GSM Dev Edition to use in Europe. No trouble on Three. It came sim unlocked so I just popped the sim in and used it directly.
Star Shadow said:
I got the GSM Dev Edition to use in Europe. No trouble on Three. It came sim unlocked so I just popped the sim in and used it directly.
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Where do you order? And how much?
zsebob said:
Special thanks for your detailed answer!
About Sprint ( I found cheaper new device ) you said not to easy, so
can I found solution on XDA or impossible?
Regards
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Ive heard the only way is to be a sprint customer for 90 days and ask customer service.
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Star Shadow said:
I got the GSM Dev Edition to use in Europe. No trouble on Three. It came sim unlocked so I just popped the sim in and used it directly.
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Star Shadow, you got 4G working on it?
sleepyguy007 said:
Att you have to Sim unlock but its pretty easy to find some place online to do it for $10-15
The verizon and t mobile ones come unlocked.
Sprint and us cellular ones I think you have to be a customer to unlock so not easy to do.
You could also get some of the pre unlocked Latin ones.
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So essentially i can put the gsm sim card into a Verizon MotoX and it should work ..If not are there any online unlcok sites ?
suttaroom said:
So essentially i can put the gsm sim card into a Verizon MotoX and it should work ..If not are there any online unlcok sites ?
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yes verizon phones it should work out of box. might have to change some apn settings. i did this with a razr m before and i didn't have to , but you might have to..
And how about 4G?
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Moto X in Egypt
sleepyguy007 said:
yes verizon phones it should work out of box. might have to change some apn settings. i did this with a razr m before and i didn't have to , but you might have to..
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I bought the Moto X one or two weeks after it was launched, I'm in Egypt it was sim unlocked however I know that all carriers except ATT and maybe Sprint can be officially unlocked.
I rooted it installed several firmwares, now I'm using ATT 4.4 leak, It's perfect.
Our N/W here is GSM same like Europe.
kkhadr said:
I bought the Moto X one or two weeks after it was launched, I'm in Egypt it was sim unlocked however I know that all carriers except ATT and maybe Sprint can be officially unlocked.
I rooted it installed several firmwares, now I'm using ATT 4.4 leak, It's perfect.
Our N/W here is GSM same like Europe.
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And do you have 4G network in Egypt? Does it work?
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Star Shadow said:
I got the GSM Dev Edition to use in Europe. No trouble on Three. It came sim unlocked so I just popped the sim in and used it directly.
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I got the GSM Dev Edition as well and it is not working for me in Israel. Any tricks to get it to work?
ktan-18 said:
I got the GSM Dev Edition as well and it is not working for me in Israel. Any tricks to get it to work?
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Surely you just check the bands on the network your trying to use it on. Look up your networks bands.
I checked before I bought, 2100 is supported by the phone and I'm using 2100 without issue.
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Hi there, I'm posting here because it's nearly the same question but I'd like to be as sure as possible
I'm looking for this device, 'cause I really like it! The problem is that I live in Italy, and, as everyone, I want to be sure it will work here!
Reading other topics, I've seen that it all depend on the band it's used in my country.
As you che see here (http ://allworldcellphones.com/gsm-frequencies-list. htm), Italy use the GSM 900/1800 frequancies and it should be fine for this phone (or am I wrong?).
Now, if so, what does it actually means? If the frequencies match, does it means that I'll be able to call, send sms, use 2G/3G/4G or there are more parameters I need to check?
And second question: I really like the Moto Make idea! Is there any way to personalize my device and get it shipped to me? Because, if I'm not wrong, Motorola only ships to USA..
Thanks for reading (and, possibly, helping) and sorry for horror typo!
So essentially i can put the GSM sim card into a Verizon Moto X and it should work .If not are there any online unlock sites available?
Sprint doesn't have 900 3G band used in Europe, only ATT has band 7 4G, all other models don't get 4G in Europe, only 3G. Check, not sure if I am right here. My GS4 has all 3G and 4G bands for USA T-Mobile and Europe
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Ped_ro said:
Hi there, I'm posting here because it's nearly the same question but I'd like to be as sure as possible
I'm looking for this device, 'cause I really like it! The problem is that I live in Italy, and, as everyone, I want to be sure it will work here!
Reading other topics, I've seen that it all depend on the band it's used in my country.
As you che see here (http ://allworldcellphones.com/gsm-frequencies-list. htm), Italy use the GSM 900/1800 frequancies and it should be fine for this phone (or am I wrong?).
Now, if so, what does it actually means? If the frequencies match, does it means that I'll be able to call, send sms, use 2G/3G/4G or there are more parameters I need to check?
And second question: I really like the Moto Make idea! Is there any way to personalize my device and get it shipped to me? Because, if I'm not wrong, Motorola only ships to USA..
Thanks for reading (and, possibly, helping) and sorry for horror typo!
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GSM 900/1800 that's for 2G. All MotoX support that. Then you have to match 3G, and then 4G bands.
Looks like ATT is the best model for Europe but its also SIM and bootloader locked! Next in line is T-Mobile, followed by Verizon, both have same 2G and 3G bands, no 4G for Europe, SIM unlocked, but Verizon has bootloader locked
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Sprint doesn't have 900 3G band used in Europe, only ATT has band 7 4G, all other models don't get 4G in Europe, only 3G. Check, not sure if I am right here. My GS4 has all 3G and 4G bands for USA T-Mobile and Europe
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GSM 900/1800 that's for 2G. All MotoX support that. Then you have to match 3G, and then 4G bands.
Looks like ATT is the best model for Europe but its also SIM and bootloader locked! Next in line is T-Mobile, followed by Verizon, both have same 2G and 3G bands, no 4G for Europe, SIM unlocked, but Verizon has bootloader locked
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First of all, thanks for answering
Then, don't you think that the developer edition (GSM) could be a good option? For what I heard, with that I should be only missing the 4G network, wich would be unavaible anyway, wichever brand I choose..
Or am I wrong?
The other plus il that I wouldn't lose the warranty in case of modding..!
Hey guys i got Moto X Verizon wireless and i wanted to root and install custom room is it possible with verizon wireless ?can i unlock bootloader if yes can anyone give me some sort of guide please.
L7iharsha said:
Hey guys i got Moto X Verizon wireless and i wanted to root and install custom room is it possible with verizon wireless ?can i unlock bootloader if yes can anyone give me some sort of guide please.
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First, this is a general thread. Second, read and then read again. and then ask . Im not trying to be rude, cause we've all been there. If you have a dev edition, you can unlock your bootloader, but if you dont, the bootloader is not unlockable. Although there is a root method over in Original Development
ok but can u help me regarding this i live in india im not getting signal with gsm networks it never connects to the network can u help?
L7iharsha said:
ok but can u help me regarding this i live in india im not getting signal with gsm networks it never connects to the network can u help?
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If you're on 4.4, start at the APN settings. Figure what those are for your carrier. Google it
i have correct settings it connects and immediately showing emergency only what could be the reason?
can i roll back to jellybean
I seriously hope you are trolling but in case you aren't...
Google the bands your network requires. Google the bands Verizon's MotoX has.
Google GSM developer editions bands.
Hopefully you can figure it out from here
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i cant understand what u said can u be more specific
Dude.... seriously.... read the threads....all your questions will be answered there. Otherwise, Google it.
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No offence intended....but if you can't figure this stuff out from the threads in the dev section, then you may want to study more and learn this stuff a bit before doing anything. Trying these things when you don't understand it can lead to very bad times.
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L7iharsha said:
i have correct settings it connects and immediately showing emergency only what could be the reason?
can i roll back to jellybean
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What could be the reason?
First let me start by saying, I've seen you post looking for help in several threads now. Unfortunately we don't use your carrier so there is a good chance none of us can help you resolve your specific issue. All we can do is give you the general tips that might help. That being said, the following sums up the MANY threads about using the Verizon Wireless (VZW) Moto X on a GSM carrier like ATT and T-Mobile in the USA and they should apply to you...
1. is your carrier CDMA or GSM?
If CDMA, the VZW X likely wont work with it no matter what you do as it supports the frequencies for 1xRTT/CDMA/EVDO that VZW uses which may differ from what your carrier uses, plus the authentication values needed for 1xRTT/CDMA/EVDO are hard coded to Verizon's settings and I haven't seen discussion to change these to non-Verizon settings like we could with older CDMA feature phones.
If GSM, since the VZW X is Sim unlocked, and supports quad band GSM/Edge 850/900/1800/1900Mhz, as long as your carrier uses those frequencies you have a chance of at least voice and EDGE data speeds. When it comes to HSPA or LTE data speeds, that depends on the frequencies your carrier uses vs what frequencies the VZW Moto X supports. Motorola.COM properly lists all the bands the VZW X supported when it first shipped. The Kit Kat Rom update has also added LTE Band 4 support to the VZW X, which I do not think is listed on Motorola's web page yet.
NOTE: if your carrier is GSM, you need to make sure you go into Settings -> Wireless & network settings (more..) -> Mobile Networks.. and enable roaming, and set the network mode to either Global or GSM/UMTS.
2. Do you have the right APN settings for your carrier?
In some cases, I've had the APN settings come down automatically when using a Non-VZW sim in my VZW Moto X and everything worked. Other cases, I had to manually input the APN settings before it would work and the "Emergency call only" status would go away. I also experienced even though I had entered the correct APN settings, MMS didn't work.
So its important you have the 100% correct APN settings, make sure you make no typographical errors when entering, and even then, there is a chance things might not work.
3. There is an apparent problem with voice/data LTE and such when using a GSM SIM. It impacts T-Mobile, but I haven't seen if it also impacts ATT (not likely due to ATT using different LTE bands the VZW X can't connect to). For more info, see this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578665 and start around post #14.
Finally... Can you roll back to Jellybean? This question has been covered many many times in other threads which is why you are getting "search" and "read" type responses.
For the Verizon Moto X there are 3 ROMs at this time...
Initial Shipping JB 4.2.2 ROM (Blur_Version.139.10.53.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US).
First OTA Update JB 4.2.2 with the Camera Update ROM (Blur_Version.139.15.1.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US),
KitKat 4.4 ROM (Blur_Version.140.45.5.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US).
If your phone is already using the "camera update rom" or Kit Kat rom, you can no longer flash the initial shipping JB rom, but you can flash the other two. There are threads discussing how to use RSDLite, or fastboot, to flash the ROMs if you need to know how.
NOTE: the "Blur_Version" in parenthesis denotes how they are listed on -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0 and When visiting SBF.Droid-Developers, when ever you are on the phone selection page be sure to pick the Moto X, not the Droid X!!!
If you are running Kit Kat now, you could try to flash back to the Camera Update rom and see if you have better luck.
And that is all I can offer. Sorry.
I'm contacted one of my Frnd who is pro in cdma programming in India after watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6rzB_FwE4A&feature=youtube_gdata_player he told me that Verizon Locked GSM radio on my Moto X he said that needs some root modification
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@KidJoe can I flash this Android 4.2.2
Blur_Version.139.15.1.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US
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I'm contacted one of my Frnd who is pro in cdma programming in India after watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6rzB_FwE4A&feature=youtube_gdata_player he told me that Verizon Locked GSM radio on my Moto X he said that needs some root modification
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Well, then I'm sure my experience of putting a T-Mobile USA and ATT USA (both GSM carrier) SIMs in my X, a and getting them to work using GSM/HSPA only, along with the experiences of the many others who did the same and posted about it, doesn't count since your "friend who is pro" and just watched a video determined the GSM side was locked.
No, the GSM Side of the Verizon USA Moto X is not SIM locked. If it was I could not put a Non-Verizon SIM in and make it work. And even if it was, I've never seen ROOT needed to SIM Unlock. The phone is sold by Verizon as a "Global Phone" meaning it supports at least quad band GSM/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900Mhz) which are used around the globe. Now, if your carrier does't use those frequencies, it wont work.
As I said in my previous post there is what appears to be a bug or problem when using LTE with at least T-Mobile USA.. and pointed you to this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578665 and suggested you start reading at post #14... Please VISIT THAT THREAD AND READ THOSE COMMENTS!!!!!! it outlines the problem and a work around.
You mention troubles getting GSM bands in your original post, but now that you mention your friend and CDMA, I'll go back to what I posted. If your carrier uses CDMA, the VZW X wont work. But you haven't stated if your carrier uses CDMA or GSM, just that you can't get GSM Bands. If the SIM you are trying to use if from a carrier that only uses GSM Bands, that is one thing. But if the carrier uses CDMA its something else.
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@KidJoe can I flash this Android 4.2.2
Blur_Version.139.15.1.ghost_verizon.Verizon.en.US
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Did you read where I said there were 3 roms for the VZW X currently? What was ROM #2?? And I said that if you were on the Camera Update, or Kit Kat, you could flash either of those two roms, just not the initial shipping rom. So yes, if your phone is a Verizon Wireless USA Moto X, you can flash that as it is the #2 aka Camera Update rom.
Forgive me for sounding a bit frustrated, but I took the time to type that up, and you obviously didn't read it, nor did you give details of your carrier, what frequencies you were trying to use, etc.
Now, you mention that you have a "Frnd who is pro in cdma programming in India " then why not have him/her help you solve this?
I have the same bands in India my carrier support em there is no carrier or band issue the main point is my Frnd and my Old Verizon Moto X With GSM Working fine only mine not working !!that's why I'm worried even My droid Ultra Working fine with Indian GSM
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I am curious to know what happened to this phone in the last one month. @L7iharsha: Were you finally able to resolve the issue of voice calls not working on your GSM carrier with your Moto X Verizon version?
Hi,
I got Moto X ( FCC ID: IHDT56PA2 from the box, which means its XT1053 model for unlocked GSM US version-retail, sold by Moto),it can be used with TMob. and ATT.
I was planning to use it in Canada on Wind Mobile, AWS bands 1700, and 2100. So far everything is theoretically OK, bands are there, BUT after plugging Sim from Wind phone does not recognizes the Wind network...maybe this is not what the box said??? How can I check exact model...it looks to me that maybe its xt1058 which does not have band 1700.
In menus About Phone I find : model Moto X only, Baseband version MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.038.123.00R, Kitkat 4.4.3 but nothing about exact model
Please help! It looks like I have to return it on Ebay...what other options do I have ?/
Lino
lino96 said:
Hi,
I got Moto X ( FCC ID: IHDT56PA2 from the box, which means its XT1053 model for unlocked GSM US version-retail, sold by Moto),it can be used with TMob. and ATT.
I was planning to use it in Canada on Wind Mobile, AWS bands 1700, and 2100. So far everything is theoretically OK, bands are there, BUT after plugging Sim from Wind phone does not recognizes the Wind network...maybe this is not what the box said??? How can I check exact model...it looks to me that maybe its xt1058 which does not have band 1700.
In menus About Phone I find : model Moto X only, Baseband version MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.038.123.00R, Kitkat 4.4.3 but nothing about exact model
Please help! It looks like I have to return it on Ebay...what other options do I have ?/
Lino
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Check the back of your phone all the way down.. it will tell if its 1053 or 1058 or 1052
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mac1996 said:
Check the back of your phone all the way down.. it will tell if its 1053 or 1058 or 1052
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No, it does not . No any signs on the back . I did try to chat with Motorola support but no result either.
lino96 said:
No, it does not . No any signs on the back . I did try to chat with Motorola support but no result either.
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XT1049 Republic Wireless
XT1053 GSM Developer Edition, T-Mobile
XT1055 U.S. Cellular
XT1056 Sprint
XT1058 AT&T
XT1060 Verizon Wireless
Even this does not help plug your phone into the PC ..it will say the model number
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mac1996 said:
XT1049 Republic Wireless
XT1053 GSM Developer Edition, T-Mobile
XT1055 U.S. Cellular
XT1056 Sprint
XT1058 AT&T
XT1060 Verizon Wireless
Even this does not help plug your phone into the PC ..it will say the model number
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Thank you very much , it is so simple .......so I have xt1053, now it has 1700,2100 mhz (aws ? I presume) but it still does not work on my provider in Canada, Wind Mobile.
Today I visited another store of Wind M. and was told that to them it looks like phone works with their SIM only in 2g which is reserved for Wind Roaming only.When I go to Settings-Mobile Networks-Preferred Network Type: I get only 2options :Automatic (ticked) and 2G not indicated. Is it the same on yours XT-1053
On my Galaxy s2x I get different choices such as:GSM/HSPA (Auto), GSM only , HSPA only so my phone which is pentaband works perfect. Here I dont have an option to forced it to work on HSPA only.
Any suggestions ??
lino96 said:
Thank you very much , it is so simple .......so I have xt1053, now it has 1700,2100 mhz (aws ? I presume) but it still does not work on my provider in Canada, Wind Mobile.
Today I visited another store of Wind M. and was told that to them it looks like phone works with their SIM only in 2g which is reserved for Wind Roaming only.When I go to Settings-Mobile Networks-Preferred Network Type: I get only 2options :Automatic (ticked) and 2G not indicated. Is it the same on yours XT-1053
On my Galaxy s2x I get different choices such as:GSM/HSPA (Auto), GSM only , HSPA only so my phone which is pentaband works perfect. Here I dont have an option to forced it to work on HSPA only.
Any suggestions ??
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My device is XT 1053 TMO...(STOCK ROOTED)
I get same 2 options :Automatic (ticked) and 2G ...I USE GRAVITY BOX & XPOSED MODULES TO DO NETWORK TWEAKS LIKE switching from 3g to 4g & getting options like hspa/LTE
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lino96 said:
Settings-Mobile Networks-Preferred Network Type: I get only 2options :Automatic (ticked) and 2G not indicated. Is it the same on yours XT-1053
On my Galaxy s2x I get different choices such as:GSM/HSPA (Auto), GSM only , HSPA only so my phone which is pentaband works perfect. Here I dont have an option to forced it to work on HSPA only.
Any suggestions ??
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Before you worry about rooting or anything drastic I suggest you take the situation one step at a time:
- Forget data, do you have cell signal? if no, check sim.
- Is your APN setting correct for your network? check Settings->Wireless & Networks More->Mobile Networks->Access Point Names
- To set HSPA only you're going to have to use the "Phone Info" screen. Normally to get that screen you'd dial *#*#4636#*#* but that doesn't work so you need a workaround. if you have a third party launcher or if you have the app called Anycut you can create an activity shortcut to Phone Info on your home screen. Another option is to use apps that open the Phone Info for you, and that's all they do. I use the app called Radio Switcher.
- Once you're in Phone Info screen be careful not to touch anything except the option that says "Set preferred network type:" and select WCDMA Only.
- This setting might not normally stick upon reboot. For my experimentation and success in making it stick upon reboot see my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55810041&postcount=11
And BTW the back of your phone should have the model number near the bottom, it's just hard to see because they imprinted it to look invisible when looking straight at it. Just twist and turn and hold it so the light catches it just right to make it easy to see.
Gentlemen and especially dtg7,
Thank You very much for your help, Radio Switcher works beautifully with my XT1053 ...WCDMA Only sticks even after reboot, perfect...now only how to get rid of that notification about available update to kitkat 4.4.4. Do not want to upgrade because of problems with battery life and some other stuff not working properly (popular topic on the net) ?? Does this update pushes also some Motorola software updates apart from 4.4.4 i.e camera etc. ??
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No, it does not . No any signs on the back . I did try to chat with Motorola support but no result either.
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Is there the word "Developer Edition" on the back cover? If yes, you can see very small silver color words near microphone.
XT1053, assembled in USA.
lino96 said:
how to get rid of that notification about available update to kitkat 4.4.4. Do not want to upgrade because of problems with battery life and some other stuff not working properly (popular topic on the net) ?? Does this update pushes also some Motorola software updates apart from 4.4.4 i.e camera etc. ??
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Disabling update will probably require root, but here's one thing you can try without root. In Settings->Apps->All find the app MotorolaOTA and open it's settings. Then just uncheck the "show notifications" box.
With root though, that has already been discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/apps-to-block-ota-rooted-moto-x-t2714410
but before that you'd have to root your phone. to do that you and being on 4.4.3 you have two options:
1) unlock your bootloader, flash a custom recovery, then flash superSU. details are abundantly available. important thing to note is unless you have the Developer Edition you'll lose any warranty you had. if you don't want to lose warranty you have option two.
2) use TowelPieRoot method. this is an exploit that can be done on a locked bootloader so your warranty would be fine. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/themes-apps/root-towelpieroot-motorola-devices-t2825059
If you do decide to root, whichever method you use, make sure to return your phone to stock condition before trying to take future updates, like the one to Lollipop. For method one that means flashing back stock recovery. For method two I believe the towelpieroot app comes with an uninstall option. For the OTA disabling that means undoing whatever you did.
FYI I did take the 4.4.4 update and I can confirm battery did take a hit. Going from 4.4.2 to 4.4.3 battery gained a lot it seemed, visibly so. The first few days of 4.4.4 were pretty bad. After clearing device cache and after a few days it became more reasonable but still seemed less than 4.4.3. Other than that have had no problems with 4.4.4.
Why did I take 4.4.4 well for one it's a security update, nothing changed from 4.4.3 except a fix for security issues. second, my guess was we won't have to wait long for lollipop after Nov 3. time will tell if that's correct.
Thankq
mac1996 said:
Check the back of your phone all the way down.. it will tell if its 1053 or 1058 or 1052
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Hey thanks its there my model no..
Thinking of getting the Moto X pure edition. For Verizon. Is this an unlock version like dev version of the phone? and theres a selection for unlock sim choice. Does that mean I can take it to any carrier? Thanks for any reply in advance.
1. It is carrier unlocked, but not boot loader unlocked. You can request a code from moto for that.
2. When I ordered my pure edition, the only option I saw was a T-Mobile Sim, though I've heard others say they got a different Sims installed.
3. I don't know how many carriers the PE works on, but it's more than just T-Mobile. And as for Verizon, I don't know, sorry.
StankFiss said:
Thinking of getting the Moto X pure edition. For Verizon. Is this an unlock version like dev version of the phone? and theres a selection for unlock sim choice. Does that mean I can take it to any carrier? Thanks for any reply in advance.
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I would ask someone who has Verizon to let you use their SIM card to see what service you get. Band 4 is VZW's "XLTE" band, which the PE supports. You won't get band 13, since the PE lacks that hardware. You might be able to pick band 4 though.
Unlikely that Verizon would activate a Pure on their network, so while you might get some LTE data you'll never have voice calling.
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why does it have to be on Verizon?
I'm using my Pure Edition (XT1095) with Straight Talk (AT&T compatible SIM) with no issues and it gets about 15-20 MBs down with LTE within a 60-70 mile radius for me. I get good coverage and not have to deal with BS contracts.
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Unlikely that Verizon would activate a Pure on their network, so while you might get some LTE data you'll never have voice calling.
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This.
Verizon's network isn't like GSM networks where you can just pop your SIM in practically any phone and be done with it. They have to physically activate the phone on their network, and they won't if it's not their device. Your options are to either get a Verizon branded Moto X, or use the Pure on AT&T, TMo, or one of the many GSM MVNOs.