My S-Pen is over sensitive. It activates when it's very close to the screen or when I barely touch the screen briefly. Very annoying. I have a tempered glass screen protector but still it's over sensitive. I have seen many solutions to increase sensitivity, but not to decrease it. Is there solution for this?
Did you increase the sensitivity because of the screen protector? Is is better, for spen at least, if the sensitivity is on default setting?
Define, "activates." What does it do?
With default settings, and a glass screen protector, my phone recognizes the S Pen when it is within 12mm - about 1/2 inch - from the screen. That's when the little circle appears, and the Air Command button highlights (for example). I rather think it's supposed to work like that. You shouldn't need to touch the pen to the screen or apps like Glance wouldn't work.
The s-pen detects pressure by sensing how hard the nib is pressed, thus the phone can recognise by determining where the pen is on the screen and the pressure exerted (you can test this by pressing the nib with your finger, and hover your s-pen on something you want to click)
You could try removing the nib and re-inserting it back, if that helps
raul6 said:
Did you increase the sensitivity because of the screen protector? Is is better, for spen at least, if the sensitivity is on default setting?
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No, the Touch Sensitivity is turned off in Settings.
RGardner said:
Define, "activates." What does it do?
With default settings, and a glass screen protector, my phone recognizes the S Pen when it is within 12mm - about 1/2 inch - from the screen. That's when the little circle appears, and the Air Command button highlights (for example). I rather think it's supposed to work like that. You shouldn't need to touch the pen to the screen or apps like Glance wouldn't work.
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By activate, I mean it will launch apps on the home screen, open links in by web browser, etc. I get the little circle when my S-Pen is close to the screen and it works as it should. That's not the problem.
n1Bb135 said:
The s-pen detects pressure by sensing how hard the nib is pressed, thus the phone can recognise by determining where the pen is on the screen and the pressure exerted (you can test this by pressing the nib with your finger, and hover your s-pen on something you want to click)
You could try removing the nib and re-inserting it back, if that helps
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I tried replacing the nib, but it makes no difference. I have a second S-Pen that came with the phone and it does the same thing. So, I don't think it's the S-Pen that is the problem, it's the sensitivity of the screen.
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Hey guys, there seems to be something a little irregular with the screen. When I press on the screen anywhere, there is a spot on the screen that appears to be what looks like pressure being exerted on it. Just like how it looks when you press on the LCD screen of a laptop. This happens also when i press on the case at the top on the left side. The spot I am talking about is about 1 in down from the top of the screen and about 1.5cm to the right from the left of the screen. It is not easily seen unless the screen is displaying a very dark background.
There is a membrane over the surface of the screen that will flex as any pressure is applied to the touch screen, both by the pen and by the frame. If you look at it through polarized sunglasses you can see the effect of any pressure quite dramatically. Unless the screen is malfunctioning or there is color distortion, I don't see a problem.
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There is a membrane over the surface of the screen that will flex as any pressure is applied to the touch screen, both by the pen and by the frame. If you look at it through polarized sunglasses you can see the effect of any pressure quite dramatically. Unless the screen is malfunctioning or there is color distortion, I don't see a problem.
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i dont think thats what hes talking about, he makes it sound like whne he touches the screen a "lcd ripple" appears somewhere else on the screen.
Mine does this when i slide hte keyboard, i can see one in the middle, it kinda worries me, especially since my last kaiser's screen broke and i didnt do anything, i just took it out of my pocket and it was like that.
My S Pen doesn't seem very accurate. When I touch the screen with it, it is off by a couple of millimeters. This is very annoying when drawing.
Is there a way to calibrate the screen/pen or something?
ltrulsse said:
My S Pen doesn't seem very accurate. When I touch the screen with it, it is off by a couple of millimeters. This is very annoying when drawing.
Is there a way to calibrate the screen/pen or something?
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Well, that "problem" it isn't that. They need to do that because they want you to see the line that are you drawing.
If you enter in to the options of the drawing pen and change to left handed, you will see how that millimeters move to the other side of the pen. So, 1 2 up and 1 or 2mm left/right are necessary and it is how the wacom screens works. In other side I have tried a lot of wacom devices and this is one of the most accurate.
The only problem that I see it is the pen that if you don't give enough pressure it doesn't works, and if you give much, then it will writes in "bold" rather than skinny lines.
Try to move the pen without pressing it, only light slide and see how it doesn't do anything.
Other funny thing on the wacom devices is that the accuracy is not the same in the center of the screen and in the side of it. Problems of magnetism
Did you try pen pressure with autodesk sketchbook, is it working ?
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Just a quick question for you who have the phone and use the pen. When you use your pen for drawing, what happens when your hand (which you hold the pen with) touches the screen? It must be annoying always to write without touching the screen with the hand/fingers like you would do if you were to write with an ordinary pen on a classic paper.
drelle said:
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Just a quick question for you who have the phone and use the pen. When you use your pen for drawing, what happens when your hand (which you hold the pen with) touches the screen? It must be annoying always to write without touching the screen with the hand/fingers like you would do if you were to write with an ordinary pen on a classic paper.
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The good thing is that u can touch the screen with finger when u write, unlike pure capacitive screen
If u touch the note with finger u will get a mark, ie u can use ur finger to write on the note
If u touch the area of screen above the note, the note app disappears to show the app beneath it and when u remove the finger the note comes back. This is to jot down things from the app beneath it. Hope this makes sense.
ltrulsse said:
My S Pen doesn't seem very accurate. When I touch the screen with it, it is off by a couple of millimeters. This is very annoying when drawing.
Is there a way to calibrate the screen/pen or something?
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I'm curious, are you left handed?
There is a setting: settings -> pen settings -> dominant hand.
I changed mine to left handed (which I am), and when my right handed friend used it, he complained that it was off by a millimeter or too to the right.
- Frank
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Just a quick question for you who have the phone and use the pen. When you use your pen for drawing, what happens when your hand (which you hold the pen with) touches the screen? It must be annoying always to write without touching the screen with the hand/fingers like you would do if you were to write with an ordinary pen on a classic paper.
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Thats not an issue as when the pen is touching (so it's active), the screen will no longer accept any additional touches. So with your fingers, multi touch will be active for upto 10 (I believe) seperate touches at once, but as soon as the pen is touching the screen, it will only pick up the pen and no additional touches from your fingers etc so you can rest your fingers on the screen while you are writing.
Thanks for the explanation that makes sense nevertheless the offset is annoying and difficult to get used to.
Try this. It works for me.
http://jjpda.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-to-calibrate-galaxy-note-s-pen.html
try turn on the auto rotation
Or turn off auto rotation
Just try...
Actually all this is nonsense.
The offset is variable and depends on the angle of the pen.
The most simple way to test this and to get used to it, is to open
a S-memo. Then instead of using the line option you choose the
eraser option. Touch the screen and on the screen you see a circle.
Now with the pen on the screen change the angle of the pen and you will see
the tip of the pen 'move' inside the circle. Now get used to the angle of the pen
where the tip is in the center of the circle. Once you are used to this angle your pen will be dead on when drawing.
Remember way back when you learned how to write, it took you days to get used to holding a pen or pencil the right way.
I can recommend the official samsung s-pen holder for a much nicer feeling when using the pen.
Hope this helps
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Thats not an issue as when the pen is touching (so it's active), the screen will no longer accept any additional touches. So with your fingers, multi touch will be active for upto 10 (I believe) seperate touches at once, but as soon as the pen is touching the screen, it will only pick up the pen and no additional touches from your fingers etc so you can rest your fingers on the screen while you are writing.
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I just want to clarify thhis, the pen needs to be touching and in writing pressure on the screen for it to stop accepting input from your skin.
friedje said:
Actually all this is nonsense.
The offset is variable and depends on the angle of the pen.
The most simple way to test this and to get used to it, is to open
a S-memo. Then instead of using the line option you choose the
eraser option. Touch the screen and on the screen you see a circle.
Now with the pen on the screen change the angle of the pen and you will see
the tip of the pen 'move' inside the circle. Now get used to the angle of the pen
where the tip is in the center of the circle. Once you are used to this angle your pen will be dead on when drawing.
Remember way back when you learned how to write, it took you days to get used to holding a pen or pencil the right way.
I can recommend the official samsung s-pen holder for a much nicer feeling when using the pen.
Hope this helps
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Go to photo editor choose a bright picture choose the pen option from photo editor hold the phone on portrait mode and try to draw on the edge with a smaller tip on the pen then go switch dominated hand on spen and try again and then come back and say this isn't a devs calibration problem or coding or call it how you want. But give attention to
PHOTO EDITOR
PEN OPTION
PORTRAIT MODE
RIGHT HAND DOMINATED > RIGHT SIDE
LEFT HAND DOMINATED > LEFT SIDE
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This idea that we need to see where we are writing is just as imbecilic as Motorola's idea of protecting users from rain drops. Back then, it stoped you from playing any games that required you to keep your finger stationary for more than 15 seconds. Here, it makes drawing and writing very difficult.
I don't ****ing see where I'm writing when I'm using a paper, why would I need that on my phone's screen?
I have also problems using my spen. Is it realy normal to put quite much pressure on the pen to write sth.? It's realy hart to dram thin lines without any interruption of the line..... feels as if that'S not "normal"
how about yours? Is that normal?
I don't know if this will help, but my s-pen was off a few millimeters too after an official update. I tried calibrating the accelerometer and gyro and the s-pen became accurate again. I'm not sure though if this indeed did the trick or if my mind was just playing tricks on me.
Thanks, I'll try that, too. But my Problem primarily is not the millimetres off, it's the pressure needed to draw sth.
I also wrote Samsung's support yesterday. I'll see what they say.
I won't flash my phone before I can be sure that it's okay and I don't have to return it.....
Matrox182 said:
Thanks, I'll try that, too. But my Problem primarily is not the millimetres off, it's the pressure needed to draw sth.
I also wrote Samsung's support yesterday. I'll see what they say.
I won't flash my phone before I can be sure that it's okay and I don't have to return it.....
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iam having the exact same problem..please tell me if you find a solution.
it didnt happen with the pen which came with phone..it had the millimeters away problem..and when i lost i ordered new pen this new pen has more pressure problem..its very hard to draw thin lines
friedje said:
Actually all this is nonsense.
The offset is variable and depends on the angle of the pen.
The most simple way to test this and to get used to it, is to open
a S-memo. Then instead of using the line option you choose the
eraser option. Touch the screen and on the screen you see a circle.
Now with the pen on the screen change the angle of the pen and you will see
the tip of the pen 'move' inside the circle. Now get used to the angle of the pen
where the tip is in the center of the circle. Once you are used to this angle your pen will be dead on when drawing.
Remember way back when you learned how to write, it took you days to get used to holding a pen or pencil the right way.
I can recommend the official samsung s-pen holder for a much nicer feeling when using the pen.
Hope this helps
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This is absolutely correct... the stylus orientation definitely does affect the point offset.
The problem is (at least on mine) is that the "left-handed" setting appears to do nothing. The point offset is the same regardless of the setting (it's biased for right handed), so trying to write left handed is very hard.
How many people that are having the problem are 'lefties'? If I pretend to be right handed, the offset is perfect (regardless of the left or right setting). This has to be a bug and I'll presume it'll get fixed soon. Because it's really quite intolerable as a leftie.
Today I upgraded my phone to Criskos rom with Abyss kernel and all accuracy problems are gone for me.Never had problem with pressure.
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I got a used galaxy note in tip top condition and decided to apply a new clear screen protector. My only problem is that each and everytime I use my SPen with any kind of pressure (except the really really light ones) my screen protector gets scratched! This is absolutely appalling and my screen protector is the same brand I always use for all my phones which I have never had a problem before. I've read on the forums about some people claiming that the Spen should not scratch the screen because it was designed for that BUT I tried out another Spen on my note and it didn't leave a single mark! Now I'm left thinking that my pen was probably modified or damaged or something but it looks pristine in all angles.
Are there samsung ICS roms that have the home button lag / double click feature disabled? I'm running rocket rom and can't seem to find it.
Lastly, can anyone try sliding their finger and applying pressure on the home button on the left or right hand side? I tried it on mine and I could have sworn the whole button slopes down and this is making me worried.
Does anyone know if there is a setting somewhere to increase the touch screen pressure sensitivity when using the s pen?
I have to press quite hard with the s pen (not when using my fingers) and am worried about damaging the screen. I've see other people using their pen much more lightly and the screen responds well for them.
I know there is a potentionometer (sp?) inside the s pen that is supposed to increase sensitivity but I'm not sure if it's the same as adjusting the actual pressure sensitivity. I've seen conflicting advice on whether the button should be turned clockwise or anti-clockwise. I don't get any ghost writing on my screen when hovering over it and the air view works as it should, it's just the amount of pressure I need to put onto the screen to make it work with the pen.
Also, does anyone know what the other button is for in the s pen? I mean the one farthest from the nib of the pen.
Thank you anyone who can help with this
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If anyone is interested who has the same problem all I did was turn the second potentionometer 90 degrees anti clockwise. It was tricky as it's underneath the plastic clasp but if you use a small pin and take your time it eventually turns, little by little.
The first button seems to be for hovering sensitivity, the second is for pressure sensitivity. You can calibrate it to your liking.
Mine is working perfectly now.
I recently purchased a Tab S8 Ultra and it's been great so far. However, I noticed that the S Pen doesn't work consistently at the edges of the tablet, particularly the 'bottom' edge where the keyboard connector is.
I initially observed this when I tried to click the 'home' navigation button with the pen, but the click would not register. Repeated attempts to click were met with failed responses more often than registered clicks. This was with the tablet in landscape mode and the taskbar enabled - so the navigation buttons were concentrated at the bottom right of the screen. With the tablet rotated to portrait mode, however, the buttons were responsive and worked as expected. I tested this in Samsung Notes as well. It seems to be common for small 'dead spots' to appear when drawing along the edge. The thing is, when making a pass back towards those spots, they can sometimes be drawn over. These spots are generally in the same area, but the pens' ability to function over these regions seems random. See examples.
I assume this has to do with the magnets around the sides of the tablet interfering with the display/pen EMR technology, but it's odd that it is inconsistent. If the tablet is using permanent magnets at the bottom, one would expect the effects of their magnetic field to be present at all times. It would also be a pretty major design flaw if the pen doesn't consistently work with the navigation buttons in one of their default locations as well.
Has anyone noticed similar behavior with their S8 Ultra (or any S8 series tablet for that matter)? Do you think I have a defective unit?
Make sure you have not turned on disable gestures and buttons when using s pen. That will make so when you use s pen the home button and such won't take affect when touching them with the pen. So no it has nothing to do with magnets for keyboard. Since i tried now with my s pen and it's registering fine.
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Im facing the same issue infact my s pen doesn't work properly in the middle of the screen also. If i press it too hard then it seems to work fine. It started happening a month ago can someone please suggest what i should do ?
Also if it take it to the service center will they replace the device ?
Versace_V said:
I recently purchased a Tab S8 Ultra and it's been great so far. However, I noticed that the S Pen doesn't work consistently at the edges of the tablet, particularly the 'bottom' edge where the keyboard connector is.
I initially observed this when I tried to click the 'home' navigation button with the pen, but the click would not register. Repeated attempts to click were met with failed responses more often than registered clicks. This was with the tablet in landscape mode and the taskbar enabled - so the navigation buttons were concentrated at the bottom right of the screen. With the tablet rotated to portrait mode, however, the buttons were responsive and worked as expected. I tested this in Samsung Notes as well. It seems to be common for small 'dead spots' to appear when drawing along the edge. The thing is, when making a pass back towards those spots, they can sometimes be drawn over. These spots are generally in the same area, but the pens' ability to function over these regions seems random. See examples.
I assume this has to do with the magnets around the sides of the tablet interfering with the display/pen EMR technology, but it's odd that it is inconsistent. If the tablet is using permanent magnets at the bottom, one would expect the effects of their magnetic field to be present at all times. It would also be a pretty major design flaw if the pen doesn't consistently work with the navigation buttons in one of their default locations as well.
Has anyone noticed similar behavior with their S8 Ultra (or any S8 series tablet for that matter)? Do you think I have a defective unit?
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I have the exact same problem + it also happpes in the top edge not just the bottom ,,
As you said home button doesn't work with s pen but other buttons ( back , recent , screenshot , power off ) works instantly without any miss , which is weird
But in other scenarios , not home screen , like photopea.com ; the "adding layer" button ( which is at the bottom edge almost at the same place of home button ) doesn't work with s pen
Another example; in adobe lightroom the top edge have the same problem, it doesn't respond when tapping ir drawing on it , but it Does when starting the drawing in a closer area from the middle then moving the s pen to the edge , in this case it works , which is very weird
Ahmad-issa1999 said:
I have the exact same problem + it also happpes in the top edge not just the bottom ,,
As you said home button doesn't work with s pen but other buttons ( back , recent , screenshot , power off ) works instantly without any miss , which is weird
But in other scenarios , not home screen , like photopea.com ; the "adding layer" button ( which is at the bottom edge almost at the same place of home button ) doesn't work with s pen
Another example; in adobe lightroom the top edge have the same problem, it doesn't respond when tapping ir drawing on it , but it Does when starting the drawing in a closer area from the middle then moving the s pen to the edge , in this case it works , which is very weird
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If your issues are to the right of the front-facing camera, maybe they have to do with the S Pen magnets?
I ultimately decided to exchange the tablet. My new one doesn't have any of my aforementioned problems. Also, the issues had nothing to do with the gestures option - the dead spots existed with gestures on/off.
Although the issue is solved, the root cause is still unknown. I'm starting to consider if the problems I had were due to a case. For a short period of time I had a Speck Balance Folio on my first Tab S8 Ultra. It was a nice case but I had to remove it after the first day because the cases magnets were creating huge dead spots on the screen. The case had a pretty large magnet spanning the lower half of the tablet, so maybe it was strong enough to permanently alter the in-built tablet magnets? I never drew on the edges of the screen until after I removed the case, so there was no way to know if the issue existed beforehand.
I currently have the official Samsung Protective Standing cover on my new tablet, and while it does have two small magnets near the edges, I have no issues using any part of the screen with the S Pen.
I guess to answer my own question in the post, and to possibly help anyone reading this in the future:
Your tablet should not be having issues near the edges of the screen.
Avoid all third party cases if possible, unless they are confirmed to be magnet-free (e.g. Supcase Unicorn Beetle and Poetic Turtleskin - It's a shame there are no magnet-free folio cases with decent protection).
Versace_V said:
I recently purchased a Tab S8 Ultra and it's been great so far. However, I noticed that the S Pen doesn't work consistently at the edges of the tablet, particularly the 'bottom' edge where the keyboard connector is.
I initially observed this when I tried to click the 'home' navigation button with the pen, but the click would not register. Repeated attempts to click were met with failed responses more often than registered clicks. This was with the tablet in landscape mode and the taskbar enabled - so the navigation buttons were concentrated at the bottom right of the screen. With the tablet rotated to portrait mode, however, the buttons were responsive and worked as expected. I tested this in Samsung Notes as well. It seems to be common for small 'dead spots' to appear when drawing along the edge. The thing is, when making a pass back towards those spots, they can sometimes be drawn over. These spots are generally in the same area, but the pens' ability to function over these regions seems random. See examples.
I assume this has to do with the magnets around the sides of the tablet interfering with the display/pen EMR technology, but it's odd that it is inconsistent. If the tablet is using permanent magnets at the bottom, one would expect the effects of their magnetic field to be present at all times. It would also be a pretty major design flaw if the pen doesn't consistently work with the navigation buttons in one of their default locations as well.
Has anyone noticed similar behavior with their S8 Ultra (or any S8 series tablet for that matter)? Do you think I have a defective unit?
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Versace_V said:
If your issues are to the right of the front-facing camera, maybe they have to do with the S Pen magnets?
I ultimately decided to exchange the tablet. My new one doesn't have any of my aforementioned problems. Also, the issues had nothing to do with the gestures option - the dead spots existed with gestures on/off.
Although the issue is solved, the root cause is still unknown. I'm starting to consider if the problems I had were due to a case. For a short period of time I had a Speck Balance Folio on my first Tab S8 Ultra. It was a nice case but I had to remove it after the first day because the cases magnets were creating huge dead spots on the screen. The case had a pretty large magnet spanning the lower half of the tablet, so maybe it was strong enough to permanently alter the in-built tablet magnets? I never drew on the edges of the screen until after I removed the case, so there was no way to know if the issue existed beforehand.
I currently have the official Samsung Protective Standing cover on my new tablet, and while it does have two small magnets near the edges, I have no issues using any part of the screen with the S Pen.
I guess to answer my own question in the post, and to possibly help anyone reading this in the future:
Your tablet should not be having issues near the edges of the screen.
Avoid all third party cases if possible, unless they are confirmed to be magnet-free (e.g. Supcase Unicorn Beetle and Poetic Turtleskin - It's a shame there are no magnet-free folio cases with decent protection).
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The problem ( in lightroom ) happens in the left side of the cameras
I have the official Samsung bookcover keyboard , i removed it but the home button stil didn't respond , then i thought what will happen if i try from a different angle ? And that's what i did , i used the s pen as its top is heading to the cameras not to my side , and it worked ! Home button responded in every single try ,,,, then i placed back the kickstand piece of the bookcover and did the same with the s pen , and it also worked with no miss , so i think it's not the magnets' fault , it's something in the angle of the pen ,,,, note that i tried the normal way of using it ( when the top of the s pen is heading to me ) and rotate it many times and touch the home button , didn't work , so this probably confirms that it's a matter of angle detection not dead spots or magnet thing
Also , the top left edge responded when swiping down to bring the quick setting , so maybe lightroom app is programmed to not detect the edge's touch in order to prevent any accident touching when handing the device
So i guess there're no big concerns here , we can live with that
Generally speaking, Samsung tablets have always had issues with covers that use magnets to hold the flap closed against the screen as they are too strong for the inbuilt algorithms to compensate for. The Spen itself is nothing but a magnet whose movement is detected by these algorithms. The magnet flaps interfere with that.
I have had ZERO issues since I switched to a cover that uses an elastic band to hold the flap closed against the screen. It has magnets, sure, but they're tiny and only for the lock/unlock functionality, not to physically hold the flap against the screen.
Hope this helps!