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Sent my kaiser to HTC for a warranty repair mainly due to the speaker not working (the loudspeaker works, not the ear speaker). The screen works fine, case is okay. Not too much else faulty, clip broken on battery cover, poor speakerphone performance from new, slow laggy interface from new inc on cooked roms.
I got a mail back saying I owe them £20 for looking at it (I never signed anything to this effect) and that the phone is liquid damaged (never been in liquid) and the warrany is void. They say it needs a new LCD screen, new MOBO, New Case.
How can my speaker not working be a fault of the fine case and working LCD screen???? They said please find attached invoice for repair quotation, nothing attached - only this picture illustrating the water damage - what the hell is it?
www.britishvegoil.co.uk/liquiddamagekaiser.jpg
Comments appreciated, my speaker failed and now I find myself in the stuck.
Greg.
my guess is that would be what they consider the void sticker that has been "compromised" due to "water damage" if it were me I would be making calls and asking questions.... it sounds extremely hinkey to me.... I had a rep try to do that to me awhile back on another phone and I said I wanted to talk to the direct manager and they took care of it...... so I would be asking questions....
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Sent my kaiser to HTC for a warranty repair mainly due to the speaker not working (the loudspeaker works, not the ear speaker). The screen works fine, case is okay. Not too much else faulty, clip broken on battery cover, poor speakerphone performance from new, slow laggy interface from new inc on cooked roms.
I got a mail back saying I owe them £20 for looking at it (I never signed anything to this effect) and that the phone is liquid damaged (never been in liquid) and the warrany is void. They say it needs a new LCD screen, new MOBO, New Case.
How can my speaker not working be a fault of the fine case and working LCD screen???? They said please find attached invoice for repair quotation, nothing attached - only this picture illustrating the water damage - what the hell is it?
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There is a little piece of " tape " inside the case of every phone that changes color when the phone is subject to moisture damage.
If this tape is tampered with or has changed it voids your warranty. It deters people from committing fraud, as is the charge for looking at your phone. are you the first owner ? I have also seen these tapes change due to high humidity and getting caught in a downpour.
Unfortunately they have the evidence of water damage. So I do not think you are going to get very far with the warranty aspect. But.......the righteous fight is the good fight. So good luck
ya.. I always wondered what that thing was...when its new, its white in color. I just did a warranty replacement and over the phone they asked me for the color of that pc..mine was white but I bet that if that pc is submerged in water it will turn to the color in your pix.
hey, my lcd cracked from my kaiser, i just searched for the lcd of it and opened up my phone and replaced it. just do the same but search for the internal ear speaker and do the same or replace the part that has to do with the ear speaker.
Thanks guys. I'm annoyed because I checked their emails and there is no mention, nor was there on the phone, of a £20 charge if it was deemed non-warranty, for them to look at/return it. Is it lawful for them to charge this?
I may look at fixing the speaker myself, given they claim it needs a new LCD and the only photo is of the moisture strip, not an ACTUAL corroded board etc, I am thinking that the speaker fault is nothing to do with moisture and legally they are liable if I send the phone to a 3rd party repairer and the repairer can find a physical fault and repair it wthout mention of water damage. I can then lay a claim on HTC as I have a 3rd party who can show evidence of fixing a fault that was not related to water damage.
What do you guys think? I know on pc's, DSG if they refused to repair one, would on occasion have the person take it to 3rd party and if the 3rd party did find a fault and fix it, DSG would cough up.
I have written to them and wait to see what they say.
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Greg.
I´ve been through this sticker-thingy-problem myself here in Sweden, a Nokia phone that never had been in contact with water. The sticker was pink and they would not let me repair it under warranty. It turned out that if you had the phone inside you jacketpocket the moisture inside your jacket could activate the sticker. This is not acceptable according to swedish law and I got help from the local consumer orginazation and Nokia changed their mind and got me a new phone. As it seems it turned out to be a faulty batteryconnector but they just checked the sticker and did not bother to check if something else was causing the problem.
This might also be the case with your phone, apparently theese stickers are to sensitive. A friend of mine got it to acivate just by going to Thailand.
Interesting, thanks gauntman. I'm hoping for something similar.
I have put my letter (minus personal details) up on the web here:
http://www.britishvegoil.co.uk/kaiser.htm
It details the full response from HTC, claiming I need a new LDC (nothing wrong with it!) and not mentioning my faulty hands free kit. It also details my reply to them which will go off recorded delivery tomorrow and the legal action I plan to take if they don't play ball.
If anyone is bored, please take a look and let me know if I have missed anything.
Greg.
ive gotta say i would argue that i want imei proof as that could be any phone,i used to work for a phone company many moons ago and they were caught out many times with not providing correct photos of the phones.the sticker should be topped with a shiny coating when it gets damp or wet then the covering seperates from the lypmus paper and turns pink.
Well the long and short is that after a big complaints letter business, it has been returned to me for free and the warranty voided. They will not repair it, they will not look at what is actually wrong with it, they will only quote for replacing everything.
As it's only really the ear speaker and handsfree kit that is broken (I can probably fix the rest with software) I'm starting a new thread to find an indi repairer in the UK/parts supplier and depending what they find may sue HTC.
Cheers guys, Greg.
greg123 said:
Well the long and short is that after a big complaints letter business, it has been returned to me for free and the warranty voided. They will not repair it, they will not look at what is actually wrong with it, they will only quote for replacing everything.
As it's only really the ear speaker and handsfree kit that is broken (I can probably fix the rest with software) I'm starting a new thread to find an indi repairer in the UK/parts supplier and depending what they find may sue HTC.
Cheers guys, Greg.
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Stop writing them emails. CALL AND ASK FOR A MANAGER! Fight them like there is no tomorow. Tell them over and over that it has not been exposed to liquid damage. Tell them that you live in a high heat/humidity enviornment and it is unacceptable that their tape turned pink without being exposed to actual water damage. Tell the manager that you have done a lot of research and that many people have had this issue with their warranty repairs. Make sure you tell them that you are going to get the local law involved! Dont do this in a letter or email. If you are still within your 1 year warranty, force them to replace it. You have absolutely nothing to lose and a new kaiser to gain.
I tried, spoke to a senior & I sent a recorded letter to the MD of HTC UK personally, I gave them 7 days notice etc.
It resulted in the £20 return charge being waived and the phone sent back free, but that's all. They are adamant that the phone is now out of warranty due to moisture and wash their hands of it.
Besides, it's back with me now. I'm still happy to sue them though, if I get a good repairer to confirm that it was something other than water damage caused the speaker to fail and there is no corrosion.
Greg.
pyraxiate said:
Stop writing them emails. CALL AND ASK FOR A MANAGER! Fight them like there is no tomorow. Tell them over and over that it has not been exposed to liquid damage. Tell them that you live in a high heat/humidity enviornment and it is unacceptable that their tape turned pink without being exposed to actual water damage. Tell the manager that you have done a lot of research and that many people have had this issue with their warranty repairs. Make sure you tell them that you are going to get the local law involved! Dont do this in a letter or email. If you are still within your 1 year warranty, force them to replace it. You have absolutely nothing to lose and a new kaiser to gain.
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HTC Warranty repair is a joke! I sent them my HTC TYTN because I got White Screen of Death. They charged me 20 dollars to look at it and then told me that a connector came of inside the phone and that it was "Customer Inflicted Damage". They then proceeded to tell me it would be 145 dollars to repair. after going back and forth with them I demanded my phone back and didn't get charged anything. I never dropped my phone or got it wet or even opened it up. They didn't want to admit they made a faulty product. They could't just say a connector broke off and we will fix it; just blame the customer, and I never got my outer box back. Luckly I had Insured my Phone from a third party. I told them every thing that had happened and they told me that it sounded fishy, so they went ahead and processed my claim. This Kaiser might just be my last HTC phone with the driver issues and such. BTW I bought this phone refurb from ATT not from HTC(not that it matters, they still got some money from it) If they bring the Touch HD stateside I might consider it, gone are the days when they came out with a phone and I jumped at it............. Rant over!
I took my shattered glass HD2 in to replace the glass today at a local store. I was quoted $100 for the glass replacement. I thought, "hey excellent price. I'd rather pay a bill than ruin my phone by doing it myself." (I have fixed all my prior lcds on my phones just FYI) Needless to say about 5 hours later they tell me that due to the damaged state of the phone the lcd was affected as well from the jarring it took when it was shattered. Apparently there were was one large tear of the anti-glare coat on the top left hand side and two other areas where it was lifted as well.
I tried calling them out by saying the technician did not take the required precautions to avoid tearing the anti-glare coat on the lcd when separating the digitizer and lcd.
Unfortunately, I had the option of continuing as is or ordering an lcd screen from them for another $100. The owner who seemed pretty nice said he would try and see if he could get the price on the replacement lcd lowered. Personally, I believe I should not have to pay for the lcd since it was NOT damaged when I took it in.
I probably don't have any recourse though since they say it's a risk associated with this phone. I should have just bought the combo together and done it myself. That's what I get for trying to save a few dollars.
Would you gentlemen have any suggestions?
theres not really much you can do unless you just want to live with it. i was going to suggest getting a warranty replacement but realized it voids warranty when taken apart. if you want things done right DIY cant really rely on shops to do anything anymore..
That sucks. I'd want to be damn sure they are replacing the screen with a genuine article too.
Unfortunately you can't really prove that the membrane wasn't damaged prior to them touching the phone so it will be hard to get out of this one without forking out extra, however I suppose you could always politely threaten them with legal action and a public flaming on a busy internet forum if they don't want to play nice.
It's worked for me i nthe past when i've had issues with car servicing.
Warranty?
k20a1 said:
theres not really much you can do unless you just want to live with it. i was going to suggest getting a warranty replacement but realized it voids warranty when taken apart. if you want things done right DIY cant really rely on shops to do anything anymore..
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No warranty for physical damage to unit. Insurance would have covered it, if insurance was purchased? I did..
I bought my C3z some weeks ago in second hands shop. It was a demo model, they explained. After a week the back cover detached from the frame on one of long sides of the devices, which is common issue, I believe. The shop contacted Sony, but they indicated that warranty is void since I carried the device in my pocket (!). Hence it moves and gets hot, which is detrimental for the glue... Anyone similar experiences? Fortunately the shop will glue the back cover instead (at no costs), but I am afraid I can say goodbye to the waterproofing .
if the phone gets hots from nothing then there is something wrong with it.
how is the battery? how old is the device really?
eg: if a unit has been constantly charging for a year, the battery is probably crap by now.
The battery is perfectly fine and the phone doesn't get really hot at all; the argument was that the phone warms up because of my body heat...
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M1chiel said:
I bought my C3z some weeks ago in second hands shop. It was a demo model, they explained. After a week the back cover detached from the frame on one of long sides of the devices, which is common issue, I believe. The shop contacted Sony, but they indicated that warranty is void since I carried the device in my pocket (!). Hence it moves and gets hot, which is detrimental for the glue... Anyone similar experiences? Fortunately the shop will glue the back cover instead (at no costs), but I am afraid I can say goodbye to the waterproofing .
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Your warranty has nothing to do with your body temperature or carrying your phone in your pocket. Where else are you supposed to carry your phone? They are designed for pockets. Sounds like the service center made up some bs to get the phone out the door.
The phone should have minimum one year (possibly two in EU) warranty, regardless of it being ex-demo or not.
Try phoning Sony service, talk to the helpdesk. They will give you an address of a reputable service centre to send it to for repair. Don't let the shop mess it up with some dodgy adhesive, the service centre will never repair it once it's full of superglue.
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Your warranty has nothing to do with your body temperature or carrying your phone in your pocket. Where else are you supposed to carry your phone? They are designed for pockets. Sounds like the service center made up some bs to get the phone out the door.
The phone should have minimum one year (possibly two in EU) warranty, regardless of it being ex-demo or not.
Try phoning Sony service, talk to the helpdesk. They will give you an address of a reputable service centre to send it to for repair. Don't let the shop mess it up with some dodgy adhesive, the service centre will never repair it once it's full of superglue.
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This ^^^
sounds like the phone shop giving you some BS
Thanks. I actually read the warranty regulations and it doesn't say anything about pockets (only in relation to pacemakers). I'll call Sony's service center and report back.
Sony indicated that they had repaired my Z3C, but I received a device with another IMEI, so I think they sent another. Lucky form me, since I unlocked the bootloader of my original device. They even included screen protectors! So hurray for Sony Service . Thanks again @Didgesteve for your advice.
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My little man threw my rog direct on its face with no screen protector on and the screen cracked, i'm actually quite impressed, it dropped from over a meter of height. and everything still works including the on-screen fingerprint scanner. however I need that screen replaced. Is there any place that have the genuine parts, are the ones from aliexpress genuine? will they still be 120hz? I bought from Asus UK, and they quoted me £300 just for the screen.
You can get it from Aliexpress for cheaper. My issue is the repair. Do we have to remove the back panel to get to the screen or can I just go directly in the front and replace it there? the tear downs I found don't explain as they use a lot of jump cuts which doesn't help.
velvetmxo said:
You can get it from Aliexpress for cheaper. My issue is the repair. Do we have to remove the back panel to get to the screen or can I just go directly in the front and replace it there? the tear downs I found don't explain as they use a lot of jump cuts which doesn't help.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ-M2WWf2e0
From 6:50. Heat it, remove it...
Looks like you don't need to take the back off. At exactly 7.06 there is a hole thru the black separation layer under the screen for the screen connector for attaching to the mother board. :good:
You can always message Jerry and he always answers questions
cheetah2k said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ-M2WWf2e0
From 6:50. Heat it, remove it...
Looks like you don't need to take the back off. At exactly 7.06 there is a hole thru the black separation layer under the screen for the screen connector for attaching to the mother board. :good:
You can always message Jerry and he always answers questions
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A bit off topic, but his name isnt actually "Jerry" his channel name is Jerry-rig everything (as in to fix or put together using non-standard or improvised materials).
Do not repair your phone yourself! If you do it. You will void your warranty, please return the device to your seller and they will send it over to a certified repair place where they have certified Asus techs that are allowed to open your phone up and repair it without warranty being affected. But if you do repair yourself then hardware warranty will no longer be valid.
Keep in mind that the device has 3 warranty types. 1 for the screen, 1 for hardware and last for battery.
So even you cracked your screen warranty is no longer valid for that part, but your hardware and battery has warranty still. So this is why you should not repair it yourself. Unless you want to void your warranty completely.
cheetah2k said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ-M2WWf2e0
From 6:50. Heat it, remove it...
Looks like you don't need to take the back off. At exactly 7.06 there is a hole thru the black separation layer under the screen for the screen connector for attaching to the mother board. :good:
You can always message Jerry and he always answers questions
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there is a lip near the speaker grill and around the glass. I can not tell if he goes around it or under it.. I will look into it again later.
Thanks for the info. The screen is super thin as it dropped knee height and it did not want to turn on. I then saw a hair line and that was that. maybe tempered glass would solve this in the future with a better case since \i used the one that came with the phone.
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Jake.S said:
Do not repair your phone yourself! If you do it. You will void your warranty, please return the device to your seller and they will send it over to a certified repair place where they have certified Asus techs that are allowed to open your phone up and repair it without warranty being affected. But if you do repair yourself then hardware warranty will no longer be valid.
Keep in mind that the device has 3 warranty types. 1 for the screen, 1 for hardware and last for battery.
So even you cracked your screen warranty is no longer valid for that part, but your hardware and battery has warranty still. So this is why you should not repair it yourself. Unless you want to void your warranty completely.
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My phone is the tencent version and I live in Japan. I was not sure if the seller on Aliexpress would take it.
velvetmxo said:
there is a lip near the speaker grill and around the glass. I can not tell if he goes around it or under it.. I will look into it again later.
Thanks for the info. The screen is super thin as it dropped knee height and it did not want to turn on. I then saw a hair line and that was that. maybe tempered glass would solve this in the future with a better case since \i used the one that came with the phone.
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My phone is the tencent version and I live in Japan. I was not sure if the seller on Aliexpress would take it.
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They should unless you can try contacting Asus in Japan to find if there is any certified repair place in Japan or they could possible give you nearest one in next country for you to ship it to them so they can repair it.
I broke the display and glass of my ROG 2 by accident. Fell from my pocket when riding bike and was run over by vehicles. There are scuff marks in the frame as well. Lying in service center for last 3 weeks awaiting display to be delivered from head office. Cost of replacement INR 15000 all charges inclusive. The service center says all asus phone displays come with the frame but they are not sure about ROG2 as my phone is the first one they handled. Hoping display comes with the frame so the scuff marks are also gone.
I was told display will arrive next week
Warranty on accidental damages is useless, Luckily I have insurance and am waiting for them to respond with solution, I think they'll just replace like for like
My Asus Rog Phone 2 screen is broken
I broke my Asus rog phone 2 screen accidentally. Now it's all black but i can receive calls play YouTube etc(the touch works). The service center told they cannot retrieve the data. So I'm planning to install a screen outside using some other trained professionals. Where can i get a good screen? Please share the link. Also please let me know if the data can be recovered.
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madsud said:
I broke the display and glass of my ROG 2 by accident. Fell from my pocket when riding bike and was run over by vehicles. There are scuff marks in the frame as well. Lying in service center for last 3 weeks awaiting display to be delivered from head office. Cost of replacement INR 15000 all charges inclusive. The service center says all asus phone displays come with the frame but they are not sure about ROG2 as my phone is the first one they handled. Hoping display comes with the frame so the scuff marks are also gone.
I was told display will arrive next week
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Did you replace the screen? how much did it cost total?
salespalace said:
Warranty on accidental damages is useless, Luckily I have insurance and am waiting for them to respond with solution, I think they'll just replace like for like
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I don't think you understood my point. You have two warranty types. One for screen and other for internal hardware and when you break the screen or glass then that warranty is voided for the screen/glass end, but hardware warranty is still valid so opening your Asus Rog phone 2 yourself and replacing the screen will void the warranty for hardware side and that usually is 2 years warranty. Or at least 1 year.
So don't repair your device yourself if you want your hardware warranty voided aswell.
Only a certified Asus technician may open your phone and replace the parts. Since then warranty will remain on the hardware end.
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Did you replace the screen? how much did it cost total?
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Yes i did. INR 15000. I think the cost went up as i was collecting the phone. They charged me the old rate applicable when i gave the phone for repair
I also broke my ROG Phone ll recently. Sent it back for repair. I was willing to pay the £226. Then they sent me an email stating the screen part I need no longer exists. They will refund me the repair cost but I am not stuck paying £30 a month for a broken, un-fixable phone. Not sure what to do at this point.
So i broke my screen on a drunken night out and as i had the tencent edition I didn't bother trying asus UK. Bought a screen of aliexpress went to a local repair shop and fixed. It is worth noting that you do have to go through the back as the screen ribbon is looped through the main board just to squash that rumour that you can go through front whole only.
Rhbk said:
I also broke my ROG Phone ll recently. Sent it back for repair. I was willing to pay the £226. Then they sent me an email stating the screen part I need no longer exists. They will refund me the repair cost but I am not stuck paying £30 a month for a broken, un-fixable phone. Not sure what to do at this point.
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That's some bull****, I bet they took parts as to expensive to get so they tell you a lie by saying part no longer exists.
Depends where you sent it to. Proper certified repair place won't tell you such thing since they know this device is new and parts are still available.
After complaining, they said that in certain circumstances they can send devices to Poland. Got them to do it, and I received my phone a week ago with a new frame, screen and battery.
Not sure if it would have happened if I didn't kick up a fuss
Rhbk said:
After complaining, they said that in certain circumstances they can send devices to Poland. Got them to do it, and I received my phone a week ago with a new frame, screen and battery.
Not sure if it would have happened if I didn't kick up a fuss
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Well lately battery is stuck strongly with adhesive tape. So removing the battery will damage the battery to, so that's why battery is replaced aswell free of charge.
Even Samsung does the same to their phones.
But good that you complained so it got repaired and is like new now
hasbaz said:
So i broke my screen on a drunken night out and as i had the tencent edition I didn't bother trying asus UK. Bought a screen of aliexpress went to a local repair shop and fixed. It is worth noting that you do have to go through the back as the screen ribbon is looped through the main board just to squash that rumour that you can go through front whole only.
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How is the screen quality? Do you have the link of the seller you bought? I would not like to try the lottery and get the same ass yours if it worked well. Thanks!
Looking just as good as the one I had before and the part looked identical to the one that was removed. I'm not gonna post the link here as I I'm not sure if it will get moderated away but sent you a DM.
I somehow managed to break the back glass.
I'd like an official repair because spare parts that I can find on Aliexpress and so on just don't look right and are obviously not original, with the Asus logo written in Arial and whatnot.
Anyone got the back glass replaced by an official repair center? How much did it cost?
And how god damn stupid am I for buying a phone with a back glass and trusting the included cover in the first place?
Anyway, Asus support refuses to answer because the phone needs to be examined by the service center, which will then send me a preview of the costs. Which is quite obviously bs.
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And how god damn stupid am I for buying a phone with a back glass
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Very. My apologies for being so blunt In fact, I feel sorry for your loss!
Yet I wonder, what made you buy a phone with glass back (without any technical advantage)? On public transport I saw and still see sooo many kids with shattered phones and I pity them (and/or their parents)...
How about ringing them up, being ultra-nice and asking for a guess/estimate?
PS: Had the Max Pro M1 and it had a plastic back - fantastic phone, so I was tempted to get a successor from Asus but exactly such glass back was a no-go (plus I hate notches) and bye bye Asus.