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O2: Unofficial Unlock Voids Warranty

Just spoke to my local O2 shop (Maidstone) because the unofficial leather slip case I bought from them seems to be depositing black dye on the back of my HD7
They were very helpful and said bring everything in, boxes, receipts and all. I said great, and just supposing you decided to replace my handset, what about the £16 odd I have spent getting it unlocked?
Their reply: because you've unlocked the handset not through us, you've actually voided the warranty.
I pointed out that my issue is not with the handset but that the case they have sold me doesn't appear fit for purpose. They declined to voice an opinion but would make a decision when I've brought the phone and case in and they've seen it themselves. They did say they certainly wouldn't be refunding my cost of unlocking the handset whatever happens.
I've no issue with O2 for this stance if indeed it is their official stance but thought you all should know so you can factor it into your decision whether to unlock your handset.

thanks for the heads up

Will101 said:
Just spoke to my local O2 shop (Maidstone) because the unofficial leather slip case I bought from them seems to be depositing black dye on the back of my HD7
They were very helpful and said bring everything in, boxes, receipts and all. I said great, and just supposing you decided to replace my handset, what about the £16 odd I have spent getting it unlocked?
Their reply: because you've unlocked the handset not through us, you've actually voided the warranty.
I pointed out that my issue is not with the handset but that the case they have sold me doesn't appear fit for purpose. They declined to voice an opinion but would make a decision when I've brought the phone and case in and they've seen it themselves. They did say they certainly wouldn't be refunding my cost of unlocking the handset whatever happens.
I've no issue with O2 for this stance if indeed it is their official stance but thought you all should know so you can factor it into your decision whether to unlock your handset.
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rubbish
never believe local shop staff
1. O2 will never know when you return it
2. its not a hardware or software modification, just like changing a setting, so no way can they refuse to honour a warranty
however its the height of cheek you asking to refund your unlocking cost. thats nothing to do with them (unless it was an O2 unlock)

colonel said:
rubbish
never believe local shop staff
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That's great advice, I'll be sure to pass it on to them when I take my phone and case in and ask them what my options are...
At the end of the day, even if they refund the cost of the leather case and replace the handset, I'm still out of pocket. Why should I as the consumer be out of pocket because a product they sell has damaged or defaced one of my possessions whilst using it for it's intended purpose?

Will101 said:
At the end of the day, even if they refund the cost of the leather case and replace the handset, I'm still out of pocket. Why should I as the consumer be out of pocket because a product they sell has damaged or defaced one of my possessions whilst using it for it's intended purpose?
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The phone was provided locked and it was YOUR desicion to pay to unlock it. If you wanted a free unlock you should have gone to O2.
I do agree with the other posters that unlocking the phone does not void the warrenty, they may just be confusing this with a phoen that requires a ROM flash to unlock (as in older phones).
However I am suprised you expect O2 to pay for you going elsewhere tp unlock your phone rather than being patient and going through O2! Unfortunatly you have to take some responsibility for YOUR actions as you are expecting them to take responsibility for theirs.
It's a bit like buying a new shirt, wearing a couple of times and then taking it back to the shop for a replacement and expecting them to pay the cleaning bill for it too.

eBay dispute - not with xda member

Got a small problem.
I sold an ASUS Eee Pad Transformer to a guy on eBay around a month ago (January 13th, to be exact). I said the condition was not amazing, it had a few knocks, scratches, knicks etc. However, this guy bought it for £200.
I have just had an eBay message from the same guy who bought the TF. He says the build quality isn't very good and there's a dead pixel on the screen. I did not notice these when I had the tablet. Furthermore, the Transformer's build quality is known to be not so good.
Where do I stand on this? Am I in the right by saying that I won't take it back, because I said 'no returns accepted' on the listing? Or do I have a legal obligation to take this back and refund him the money (obviously I'd prefer the former).
Thanks,
Phil

i would make sure its the same tablet (hes not sending you a different one back) since you said you didnt notice the dead pixel

Have him take a picture of the dead pixel.
And ask him to describe his qualms about the build quality. Hopefully he'll go into depth about creaking and such, things that are a fault of the manufacturer's and definitely not yours.
So long as there is no dead pixel and he isn't complaining about you improperly describing the tablet, I would not refund it.

redbullcat said:
Got a small problem.
I sold an ASUS Eee Pad Transformer to a guy on eBay around a month ago (January 13th, to be exact). I said the condition was not amazing, it had a few knocks, scratches, knicks etc. However, this guy bought it for £200.
I have just had an eBay message from the same guy who bought the TF. He says the build quality isn't very good and there's a dead pixel on the screen. I did not notice these when I had the tablet. Furthermore, the Transformer's build quality is known to be not so good.
Where do I stand on this? Am I in the right by saying that I won't take it back, because I said 'no returns accepted' on the listing? Or do I have a legal obligation to take this back and refund him the money (obviously I'd prefer the former).
Thanks,
Phil
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I would leave it unless he files a claim with paypal. Then just show pictures of it and fight it. It may take a while but it's worth it. That said if he offers to send it back accept the return and sell it again, it will save you the hassle in the long wrong

You shouldn't be obligated to accept returns since it was explicitly stated that you don't accept them.

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You shouldn't be obligated to accept returns since it was explicitly stated that you don't accept them.
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That's true unless the user disputes with paypal. If he does so and wins the seller HAS to refund the user.

You have no legal obligation to accept that item back unless you deliberately misrepresented the condition of the item prior to its sale.
If you have pics etc(you would have had them on the eBay listing?) and made clear the condition of the tablet then the customer has no recourse to you.
I'd reply to the customer and advise a dead pixel may be something they can take up with the manufacturer if it's still under warranty, if not, tough luck and sorry but it's nothing to do with you.
-psb

"No returns" policy that sellers use on eBay is meaningless. eBay does not allow it and will side with the buyer 90% of the time. Unfortunately for OP he does not have much recourse if buyer files a SNAD claim with eBay. The only defensive argument he has is to state that the item has been in buyer's possession for some time now and that it was sold as used.

I'd refund the guy 20 quids and call the day. No need to complicate it any further.

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I'd refund the guy 20 quids and call the day. No need to complicate it any further.
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If he accepts it, its the best you can expect.
I had the same with a tg01 on ebay, buyer claimed screen scratched even though it wasnt and was told to return the item to me by paypal who froze the money and then refunded him despite me showing photos to the contrary. Lucky for me mine came back unharmed, the buyer obviously didnt like it and used an excuse to get a easy refund. Paypal ignored my proof and my call for proof from the buyer.
In most cases within a 7/14 day period whatever Paypal have as a grace period, they will side with the buyer as long as the buyer does as instructed Im sorry to say.

OK, thanks guys!
I told him to send it back to ASUS. He said he isn't blaming me and he likes the tablet, so it looks like he doesn't want a refund, which is good.
I'll update this thread when/if I get another message from him
EDIT: I'll thank the people I didn't manage to thank tomorrow, ran out of thanks for today

Issues with fastcardtech

Hi to all,
I want to share with you what appened last month with fastcardtech site... I already bought a zopo zp100 and I was really satisfy about service so I decide to bought a new one but white.
Reading internet site I saw that two models are available but I was interested only in the completely white one so I ask availability at support center of fastcardtech that confirm by mail the availability.
After two day I release the payment and in a week the phone was shipped.
Where is the problem? The phone received was the other one.
After 1 month they could give me a 3% discount (6USD due to account limitation) on next order that I'll never do cause It's not sure what they will ship.
I didn't report all the mail between us where they wanted to refund (6USD) and after 2 weeks no paiment was released so I asked and they wrote back to call support center...
I'm writing this post cause the site is really cheapest but pay attention cause if there is a problem you'll not have support... In some case you feel victim of a joke...
Bye.
P.S. attacched the chat transcript for all the detail

Sorry for what happened
i faced the same problem they listed a phone with high specification at a high price yet it was just specifications hacked in kernel the phone was not of quality as it was priced i bought it at USD 295 yet other phones of exact spec without hacking kernels were at USD 165 so if you are buying online its better you buy from sites with payments protections like escrow of aliexpress as the product i bought there was real coz it had to wait for my confirmation the payments to be made which force the sellers to be sure of what they are doing.
In fact the item was shipped with very low prices i never requested for which led me to be over taxed as the tax authority had to do it by themselves.

Do NOT FALL VICTIM
THIS WEBSITE>>>fastcardtech.com<<<<<< is BY FAR the most corrupt CHEAP CHINA CELLPHONE website to deal with. They are good at their game, but the end results will have your $$$$ blowing out the window. They lead you on with countless excuses UNTIL YOU GIVE UP..!! And then your out all your money...and even the BAIT of DHL Express Delivery if your stupid enough to believe that.....
I suppose their might be someone out there that actually received something from them, or it is posted online to suppose that may have happened. But I think they have all the bases covered, as they counter any claims and retaliate to cover up their track to LURE MORE SUCKERS LIKE ME...!!
So BEWARE you were warned, unless someone have an actual wants to show their face, NOT CHINESE holding something that proves that this website is legitimate. This is a GRAND SCAM of a website...go ahead and look. Delcious Bait, but DO NOT BITE...Especially HDC Galaxy S III Pro, 8mm thin, yeah...sure....They really like you to bite that big one...and suck out your head.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG WITH PICTURES OF YOURSELF, A BOX with a BEAUTIFULLY CLONED CHINA KNOCKOFF and Prove me wrong..THanks..!!

i have read and others have complains for same problems (just google it )
i was about to buy from them but it think i will consider it twice
the posthumous fame[/B] should be re-considered by all Internet Shops

I don't know what to tell everyone, but I ordered from them and didn't have any problem other than I paid $2.99 for them to root the phone which was never done nor refunded.
I used EMS shipping and had my phone within a week; the tracking was a bit wack, but I figured it out and it even worked.
Everything works great on the phone and came as promised. I can't comment on customer service other than they never responded about a refund for the $2.99.
Would I order from them again? Maybe, but you might have to cross your fingers and hope you're lucky but my experience was acceptable.

10 post noobs everywhere!

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rubbering said:
THIS WEBSITE>>>fastcardtech.com<<<<<< is BY FAR the most corrupt CHEAP CHINA CELLPHONE website to deal with. They are good at their game, but the end results will have your $$$$ blowing out the window. They lead you on with countless excuses UNTIL YOU GIVE UP..!! And then your out all your money...and even the BAIT of DHL Express Delivery if your stupid enough to believe that.....
I suppose their might be someone out there that actually received something from them, or it is posted online to suppose that may have happened. But I think they have all the bases covered, as they counter any claims and retaliate to cover up their track to LURE MORE SUCKERS LIKE ME...!!
So BEWARE you were warned, unless someone have an actual wants to show their face, NOT CHINESE holding something that proves that this website is legitimate. This is a GRAND SCAM of a website...go ahead and look. Delcious Bait, but DO NOT BITE...Especially HDC Galaxy S III Pro, 8mm thin, yeah...sure....They really like you to bite that big one...and suck out your head.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG WITH PICTURES OF YOURSELF, A BOX with a BEAUTIFULLY CLONED CHINA KNOCKOFF and Prove me wrong..THanks..!!
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Here's one I busted on aPad.tv.com forum; regarding Hyundai T7 Exynos 4 quad-core processor Tablet PC:
me: I ordered 1 a week ago. It was supposed to have been in stock, but when I checked on the status it was still unshipped. I was beginning to wonder if the T7 even existed; so what aPadTVadmin said about them being in stock, makes since now. I guess most of these online stores get all their stuff drop-shipped, am I assuming correct?
aPadTVadmin: I spoke to DP a couple of days ago regarding the T7 for another reason and all T7 units have been shipped out. This was Thursday. If you ordered 1 week ago it would have shipped out nearly same day. I witnessed with my own eyes a large stock of T7 Hyundais being processed for shipping out last time I visited there.
Please give me your order number so I can validate it and check with them for you.
me: BUNCH OF SCAM ARTISTS! I contacted the manufacturer today and found out that they don't even start shipping them until March 7th, 2013. SO THERE'S NO WAY THAT ANYONE EVEN HAS T7'S YET, EXCEPT FOR A FEW ENGINEERING SAMPLES THAT WENT OUT. SO MUCH FOR SEEING THEM WITH YOUR OWN EYES... MORE LIKE LYING OUT OF YOUR OWN MOUTH.
GadgetGreats.com, DealsPrime.com aPadtv; ALL ONE OF THE SAME; SCAMMERS! Also AD PANDAWILL.COM TO THE LIST OF SCAMMERS, INCLUDING EVERBUYING.COM
ALWAYS PAY W/PAYPAL, IN 7 DAYS IF THEY HAVEN'T UPLOADED A TRACEABLE TRACKING #, PAYPAL PUTS A HOLD ON THE PAYMENT,
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icestage said:
hi to all,
i want to share with you what appened last month with fastcardtech site... I already bought a zopo zp100 and i was really satisfy about service so i decide to bought a new one but white.
Reading internet site i saw that two models are available but i was interested only in the completely white one so i ask availability at support center of fastcardtech that confirm by mail the availability.
After two day i release the payment and in a week the phone was shipped.
Where is the problem? The phone received was the other one.
After 1 month they could give me a 3% discount (6usd due to account limitation) on next order that i'll never do cause it's not sure what they will ship.
I didn't report all the mail between us where they wanted to refund (6usd) and after 2 weeks no paiment was released so i asked and they wrote back to call support center...
I'm writing this post cause the site is really cheapest but pay attention cause if there is a problem you'll not have support... In some case you feel victim of a joke...
Bye.
P.s. Attacched the chat transcript for all the detail
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this guy who wrote this is also part of the scam; he want's you think that the company actually ships a good product, while the truth is, what you'll get is an imitation of the product you order, if at all that; these guys are all in cahoots, and they're on every forum & youtube video out there. They are good at what they do & once they ship the inferior product, if you return it, you lost all your money, point blank.

aliexpress.com is the best site to buy tablets/phones from china. they have buyer protection, and the money isn't released from your account till you confirm the device is received and working.

Scam
I ran into the FCT trap too. Should have done some more research beforehand .
I ordered an HDC Note 3 clone from them and paid through Paypal. They provided a Singapore shipping number and the next day told me the phone is out of stock and was not shipped. Meaning a fake shipping number was provided. The same time the same phone is still listed on their website as "in stock" and questions of potential customers are answered.
They told me to choose an alternative phone which I did with another HDC N9002. 35$ more expensive which difference I paid. They did not ship, after a number of reminders they however provided again the same (!) fake shipping number as before. So the item was never ever intended to be shipped. They play for time and money to get over the 45 days to launch a Paypal dispute. So be careful.
Currently a dispute for full refund is ongoing.
Stay away from these scammers!

SCAM artists
I'm also getting countless fake shipping numbers regarding broken tablet that I actually received from them.
Beware of FCT!
They are always delaying with shipping (some items they never ship). Their policy is to provide a bit lower prices than the others at first sight and then add extra fees for nothing and eventually ship the item you ordered when it is already outdated.
Fake shipping numbers are their method of delay.

FCT
I recently ordered from FCT and of course before reading all the forums of countless individuals who have been scammed or dooped by these guys.
Anyway after 2 weeks from placing my order I received a tracking number followed by another tracking number 2 days later (weird), then a week later it was scanned into the U.S, 2 or so more days it actually arrived at my door!!! (bing bong)
I was pretty stoked however, once I opened my package (HDC GT N9000 Note3) one thing was missing ...No stylus!! so after numerous calls to these guys via Skype (preferred and only method to contact them) I finally speak to a man who tells me that if I buy another phone they would include the stylus plus a gift free of charge....wait the phone was advertised to include this?? blah blah something shipping he began to ramble on about.... all n all pointless
I'm now a month into having my phone which appears to be pretty effin exact to the Note3 however yesterday my phone just disconnected from my network and will not re-connect. I cannot reach a soul at this place leaving me with a fancy mini internet tab/paperweight/possibly shooting target..
Basically they were great until I gave them my money and the phone is awesome however customer service is a huge key to running any successful business and this is something they LACK.....
GOOD LUCK!

how do you use ems tracking
beefgalore said:
I don't know what to tell everyone, but I ordered from them and didn't have any problem other than I paid $2.99 for them to root the phone which was never done nor refunded.
I used EMS shipping and had my phone within a week; the tracking was a bit wack, but I figured it out and it even worked.
Everything works great on the phone and came as promised. I can't comment on customer service other than they never responded about a refund for the $2.99.
Would I order from them again? Maybe, but you might have to cross your fingers and hope you're lucky but my experience was acceptable.
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i ordered from fct and i have the ems numbers, how do you track, it always give me no information, also, how long does ems take to deliver ?

MrCompleteownage said:
i ordered from fct and i have the ems numbers, how do you track, it always give me no information, also, how long does ems take to deliver ?
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i actually order a week ago and in Monday they send me a tracking number that says no information also... starting to suspect a bit weird 3 days and no tracking....
Fingers crossed..........
Regards FRZ

A Canadians woeful tail of failed N4 Repair

To start off, YES, this is a rant thread about LG and its outsourced repair center, Stellar Wireless in Fort Texas.
I dropped my phone and the glass broke. Here is my older thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2126134
Spoke with 10 different reps at LG USA to confirm i could send my N4 for repair to their facility. Apparently, I can, as long as I have a return address in the States. Sweet deal! Cost $153 for repairs vs. $250 from Canada supplier in Mississauga (All Tech-Neek Electronic).
So i prepare my package, pay the fee of $25 for having it shipped via UPS (bad mistake). Everything is going well, phone shipped off on February 1. It ends up reaching the facility but gets rejected! Why? because at the boarder for Canada/US customs there is a "Customs Delivery Charge" aka COD fees on any products being imported in the States. Well, i wasn't aware of this. The repair center rejects the package, I am on the phone for 2 hours that same day, being transferred to 4 departments and given 5 different numbers to call, eventually i get to the right number. Pay my COD fee of $35 off. Sweet, so now i can ship it and my headaches are over right? I wish that were true, UPS sends it off a 2nd time. It gets rejected cause there is the "COD Sticker" on the package.
Essentially, if that sticker is on the package, the repair center doesnt check to see fees have been paid. I get on the phone with UPS AGAIN, speak to 5 different departments and get them to say to the repair center that the "COD is paid." If you have followed this thread this far and are aware with UPS, I'm on my final and 3rd strike! SO needless to say, 3rd time worked and it got delivered! Yeah!:good: Butt....
So i'm sitting at home, waiting for the email/phone call to repair my phone. I receive it on Feb 19, total cost: $153. Sweet deal! Fill out the information and send it via fax to the LG wireless facility. Now according to that repair form, They have 5 business days to process the payment and get my phone fixed. BUT guess what? My phone mysteriously leaves the repair center on Feb 21, which is 2 business days after i sent the payment. Now did they receive it ? I don't know. I called that same day to ask about the fax, and no one was able to help me. So i called FEb 21, asking about my phone and they said it was repaired and sent off. Cool story right? But my visa never received a payment. Now i call today, and find out my phone was NOT repaired and it was sent out. Why? Once again, NO ONE KNOWS.
Needless to say, calling LG 10 times, UPS 15 times, and being transferred to different departments and ALMOST getting my phone fixed....in the end, im at square one again. Its en route to my friends house and I am sending it back to the states forking out the $250 and getting it repaired locally. /Rant. Frusturated beyond belief at LG Wireless, Stellar Wireless (Repair center) and UPS (not informing of COD fees, even the store i shipped it from didn't know about that).
Just needed to rant and share a terrible customer service tale about trying to get the N4 repaired. Canadians, keep your phones in Canada and pay the extra money to know it will be done correctly and properly the FIRST time in your home country. I am applaud and frustrated with this situation.

Appalled*

At that point I would of said f it and bought another one and “said such is life". sorry to hear about your ordeal.

Wow, that sucks.

I hope you have some cold beers in the 'fridge because i would be drinking a few. Hang in there buddy.

Update: thanks to those who read. Apparently the LG staff are either retarded or poorly trained. An executive supervisor just informed me that my payment was received and the phone is actually "fully repaired and visa has been charged." Now i dont know whether to believe it or not, but she sounded confident, Only time will tell, should have my phone back in 2 weeks. Will let everyone know how this repair service turned out.

Well that sucks... but doesn't LG have a repair center in Canada? I called the Play Store to get an RMA for a faulty battery and they sent me a UPS shipping label to a repair center in Fort Worth Texas so I called again and told them I was calling from Canada and the issued a new shipping label to an LG repair center in North York, Ontario.

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Update: thanks to those who read. Apparently the LG staff are either retarded or poorly trained. An executive supervisor just informed me that my payment was received and the phone is actually "fully repaired and visa has been charged." Now i dont know whether to believe it or not, but she sounded confident, Only time will tell, should have my phone back in 2 weeks. Will let everyone know how this repair service turned out.
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Good Phone/Poor Glass
I bought this phone about 3 weeks ago and LOVE it! Everything about it is awesome, except one thing...the glass front and back. It says that this glass is gorilla glass. I am thinking after 3 weeks that it's the cheapest "gorilla" glass they could put on the phone. I say this because I dropped the phone from 2 feet off the ground directly on it face (with a case on it) and the front glass shattered rendering the entire phone completely useless. I've done some research online and found that several hundreds of other Nexus 4 owners have experienced the similar things. I read one review where someone was at their home computer working while their N4 was just sitting on their desk like it had many time before. The user said it say in one spot for about an hour or so and he hear glass crack. Looked all around their apartment and couldn't figure out where it came from. Then they looked at the back of their new N4 and the back had cracked in two spots. As much as I love this phone I have to say I am very, very disappointed with LG and Google for this phone. with ins thru T-Mobile USA I have to pay $130 for a replacement, once it comes in I will be selling it and buying a Samsung GS3. My wife wanted this phone also and we almost got it last Friday, but held off for whatever reason. She is now also going to buy a Samsung GS3.

tail?
tale?

That sucks, seriously.
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trav2001 said:
I bought this phone about 3 weeks ago and LOVE it! Everything about it is awesome, except one thing...the glass front and back. It says that this glass is gorilla glass. I am thinking after 3 weeks that it's the cheapest "gorilla" glass they could put on the phone. I say this because I dropped the phone from 2 feet off the ground directly on it face (with a case on it) and the front glass shattered rendering the entire phone completely useless. I've done some research online and found that several hundreds of other Nexus 4 owners have experienced the similar things. I read one review where someone was at their home computer working while their N4 was just sitting on their desk like it had many time before. The user said it say in one spot for about an hour or so and he hear glass crack. Looked all around their apartment and couldn't figure out where it came from. Then they looked at the back of their new N4 and the back had cracked in two spots. As much as I love this phone I have to say I am very, very disappointed with LG and Google for this phone. with ins thru T-Mobile USA I have to pay $130 for a replacement, once it comes in I will be selling it and buying a Samsung GS3. My wife wanted this phone also and we almost got it last Friday, but held off for whatever reason. She is now also going to buy a Samsung GS3.
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Sorry Gorilla glass is not shatter proof. Only scratch resistant. I love how you blame the phone instead of your self.

Help with EBAY dispute!

Hi
Looking for some guidance - I am a private seller and do not run a shop. I sell my own things which are perfect working order and a buy as seen / no returns policy is indicated.
Anyway, I sold a Sony camera 4 weeks ago (in the UK) and the buyer took the camera on holiday (abroad) for a week and has returned saying there is a dead pixel and asked ebay to return it. Even though I said no returns, and proved there was nothing wrong with the camera before selling (enclosed a photo taken prior to sale), ebay have honoured the return!!! It has now been posted back and ebay have left it to me to get the camera inspected.
Come back for me - apparently none!
All I deduce is that the buyer changed her mind or damaged the camera in some way and decided to return it.
Where is my legal footing on this???
Ebay are crooks. They said if the camera comes back as no problem they will put a red mark on her account - in the meantime I'm out of pocket over £400 (which has since been spent). The hold is placed on the paypal account in the meantime.
I am thinking I'll try doing a visa chargeback or take ebay to small claims. Views?
thanks all

eBay is a buyer friendly market, there's really nothing you can do.
Are you 100% sure there isn't a dead pixel?

There was no dead Pixel as I had it checked by a local camera shop. The sensor was filthy and so was the body and the camera was returned damaged. Ebay have since agreed to cover the refund cost and I won't be out of pocket.
Interestingly they provide 30 days refund for buyers even if you as a private seller say "no return".
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If you are based in the UK too, and you know for a fact it was working perfectly fine, plus you had it stated as no returns.
If you have evidence of that, and Ebay basically tells you pay up or else, you can take it to a small claims court, because the buyer bought it on the basis of a no returns policy.
I would double check exactly whats in the Ebay ToS is though.
I hope that helps in some way.

I think the no returns only applies to auctions. If you sell it as a buy it now item you have to accept returns no matter what?

This is for Ebay, or use PayPal next time to help in the making a safe transaction....and or dispute.
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bonerp said:
Hi
Looking for some guidance - I am a private seller and do not run a shop. I sell my own things which are perfect working order and a buy as seen / no returns policy is indicated.
Anyway, I sold a Sony camera 4 weeks ago (in the UK) and the buyer took the camera on holiday (abroad) for a week and has returned saying there is a dead pixel and asked ebay to return it. Even though I said no returns, and proved there was nothing wrong with the camera before selling (enclosed a photo taken prior to sale), ebay have honoured the return!!! It has now been posted back and ebay have left it to me to get the camera inspected.
Come back for me - apparently none!
All I deduce is that the buyer changed her mind or damaged the camera in some way and decided to return it.
Where is my legal footing on this???
Ebay are crooks. They said if the camera comes back as no problem they will put a red mark on her account - in the meantime I'm out of pocket over £400 (which has since been spent). The hold is placed on the paypal account in the meantime.
I am thinking I'll try doing a visa chargeback or take ebay to small claims. Views?
thanks all
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