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Nexus One Android OS Memory Leak??

I started off with around 280-290MB free on a fresh boot and after a while, the free memory drops to 200MB or so. Using taskkiller to kill all the processes yields the same result. I believe it's some sort of memory leak?

thats normal, i think, should be the cache usage, thats displayed there, if I know my linux'es. that memory will be freed automatically, when its needed.

Yep, FloOGB is right. Don't worry too much about the memory management, there's a lot going on under the hood and Android does a pretty good job. You shouldn't be alert when a lot of memory is used, in fact, you should be happy if most of the RAM is used.
I also suggest NOT using a task killer, you're battling Android's memory management by doing that and are likely to run into bugs because the auto-kill feature stopped a process that should have been kept running. E.g. someone had the problem that GMail wouldn't notify of incoming mail that has been pushed by the server. Turned out the task killer stopped a process required for the push mail system to work.

Sigh.
Everyone should post this video anytime someone complains about "free memory":
http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI

muncheese said:
Sigh.
Everyone should post this video anytime someone complains about "free memory":
http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI
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Agreed! Thanks for the link... I didn't feel like searching for the last time it was posted.

May be you can try Memory Booster. This is a powerful mobile Memory & RAM boosting tool specially designed for Android smartphone users. It is a handy memory optimizer tool that will keep your Android smartphone running faster and efficiently. It increases your cell phone’s performance by making more memory available for both your applications and the mobile system.
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Please read the link above which explains Android's memory management. If you use applications like Memory Booster you will mess more with the phone then its good for.
We're not on Win95 anymore, guys, please!

A cache for each app installed gets created in dalvik cache partition & that takes the memory away !

I agree for the most part but I always keep a decent TK just for rogue apps. Everything stock/daily users I let android take care of anything new or memory intensive I kill like poorly designed apps or games... Works great... I love my n1
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ChongoDroid said:
I always keep a decent TK just for rogue apps. Everything stock/daily users I let android take care of anything new or memory intensive I kill like poorly designed apps or games.
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100% ack. some apps just need to be killed sometimes or some that stay resident and are not well written.
don't get me wrong, i'm not against taskkillers, if they are used in "manual" mode or to kill something specific. the problem are the "auto cleaners" that tell you that you need more free ram. the point is that you don't ideally less to no RAM should be free (not free in the sense of used for caching).
free ram is wasted ram.
my problem are the people who lure novice users to use these apps that may very well destabilize the phone.
@seventyfivein: why would one need to clear dalvik cache (if you don't update)? the cache has a reason to be there and the cache files will be recreated every time. if you remove an app so will be the cache file. i don't get the problem...

FloOGB said:
100% ack. some apps just need to be killed sometimes or some that stay resident and are not well written.
don't get me wrong, i'm not against taskkillers, if they are used in "manual" mode or to kill something specific. the problem are the "auto cleaners" that tell you that you need more free ram. the point is that you don't ideally less to no RAM should be free (not free in the sense of used for caching).
free ram is wasted ram.
my problem are the people who lure novice users to use these apps that may very well destabilize the phone.
@seventyfivein: why would one need to clear dalvik cache (if you don't update)? the cache has a reason to be there and the cache files will be recreated every time. if you remove an app so will be the cache file. i don't get the problem...
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I use cache cleaner every once in a while... It seems to keep things snappy. Kill all buttons are silly
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Try AutoKiller Memory Optimizer, it fine-tunes android system's inner memory manager routines (setting minfree values) resulting in a more smoothened UI experience without harming the system or running apps.
more than 200k satisfied users cannot be wrong

"Not enough memory delete some items"

Hello,
I am new with Android and I need your help...
I recently bought the 8GB galaxy s. I have about 13 applications installed from the market in the internal sd and I have bought an external sd of 16GB yesterday where I placed all my music and photos. Suddenly today I try to open the galery and the "Not enough memory delete some items" comes up. I checked the internal SD card and from a total og 5.78GB I now have 160kb left!!! I checked where alla the spce went and it went to a file called Adroid. I think this happened since I put the external sd. Does anyone know what might have happened..
Thanks,
Chryssa

Make sure that the directory you copy your music files are really the microsd card. Lots of people get confused between these two directory.
Other than that check what directory in the android directory are taking up the space. The name of the directory will often correspond to the application.
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kcharng said:
Make sure that the directory you copy your music files are really the microsd card. Lots of people get confused between these two directory.
Other than that check what directory in the android directory are taking up the space. The name of the directory will often correspond to the application.
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Thanks for replying. The directory is the right one. I found the problem the file named Android which had inside a folder named Data and in there com.cooliris.media- cache was eating all my free space for thumbnails of photos! I deleted itand I got back all the space with no problems. I wonder why it did that though....
Chryssa

Bug most likely. Glad you resolved the problem.
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Keep in mind there is a different between RAM (512Mb) and Storage space (8GB).
the error message could also have been referring to not enough RAM memory, rather than not enough Storage memory.
chryssa33 said:
Hello,
I am new with Android and I need your help...
I recently bought the 8GB galaxy s. I have about 13 applications installed from the market in the internal sd and I have bought an external sd of 16GB yesterday where I placed all my music and photos. Suddenly today I try to open the galery and the "Not enough memory delete some items" comes up. I checked the internal SD card and from a total og 5.78GB I now have 160kb left!!! I checked where alla the spce went and it went to a file called Adroid. I think this happened since I put the external sd. Does anyone know what might have happened..
Thanks,
Chryssa
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I get this message from time to time recently as well. I have lots of ram space left and lots of internal memory left as well. Whenever I get this message, the phone cannot read the internal and external sd cards. I usually solve it by wiping cache.
Anyone else with this issue?

Yes! I just tried to download an app yesterday, and the phone told me I did not have enough space. I have 1.7 GB left of internal storage not to mention the 1.6 GB of Internal SD card storage. Any idea what is causing this?

trekki said:
Yes! I just tried to download an app yesterday, and the phone told me I did not have enough space. I have 1.7 GB left of internal storage not to mention the 1.6 GB of Internal SD card storage. Any idea what is causing this?
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Move some apps to the sd card.

Thanks, now my Problem has been solved.

delete the Market Updates. It will revert back to the Old MArket but you will be able to install new apps.

i'm a iphone user, but i'm a IT so very often i got android phones in my hands for maintenance, updates and stuff related
i got an s2 sgh-i898, it was having issues about 'not enough internal memory' i bought a 16Gb SD card and do the required steps to change al the downloaded stuff transferred to the SD card, and set up (via command line) the phone, so the next items will always be installed in the SD card, but now i got the same problem and the same issue of low memory, i have done the cache cleaning and yet it still shows that had around 70Mb free space, now i'm wondering what else could be eating so much memory??

diras2010 said:
i got an s2 sgh-i898,
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wrong place, go here for S2
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diras2010 said:
i'm a iphone user, but i'm a IT so very often i got android phones in my hands for maintenance, updates and stuff related
i got an s2 sgh-i898, it was having issues about 'not enough internal memory' i bought a 16Gb SD card and do the required steps to change al the downloaded stuff transferred to the SD card, and set up (via command line) the phone, so the next items will always be installed in the SD card, but now i got the same problem and the same issue of low memory, i have done the cache cleaning and yet it still shows that had around 70Mb free space, now i'm wondering what else could be eating so much memory??
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apps have also big data.
try to delete some apps or app data.

Where are only 70MB free space? which mountpoint?
diras2010 said:
i'm a iphone user, but i'm a IT so very often i got android phones in my hands for maintenance, updates and stuff related
i got an s2 sgh-i898, it was having issues about 'not enough internal memory' i bought a 16Gb SD card and do the required steps to change al the downloaded stuff transferred to the SD card, and set up (via command line) the phone, so the next items will always be installed in the SD card, but now i got the same problem and the same issue of low memory, i have done the cache cleaning and yet it still shows that had around 70Mb free space, now i'm wondering what else could be eating so much memory??
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SD card usage after updating to Windows Phone 8.1 dev preview

I have a small SD card (1.83 GB) inserted in my Lumia 525 that I'm using to store some music and images.
Before I updated my phone to Windows Phone 8.1 dev preview, I had roughly 100 MB of free space. Upon updating, it had suddenly gone down to 0 KB. Yet when I added up the data in the memory stick, it was only close to 1.7 GB, and thus should've had ~100 MB free.
I couldn't figure out what was happening, so I decided to format the memory stick. After formatting, I clearly had all of 1.83 GB free. Then I copied around 800 MB of music and around 600 MB of images. But after that, instead of having the expected ~400 MB of free space, I have just 12 MB. Just like before, the space had vanished magically. (Note that I did nothing other than just copy the files, though I did notice that copying the images took a long time unlike before.)
Even now, if I check the size of all the folders in the SD card, they add up to only 1.35 GB.
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Yet, only 12 MB is free.
What is happening here? And no, I haven't installed any apps onto the SD card, and new apps are set to be installed into the phone's internal memory.
I was planning on buying a large SD card now that apps can be installed onto it, but if the space is just going to be eaten up, I'm not so sure.

Do you have "Show Hidden and System files" enabled in Folder Options?

GoodDayToDie said:
Do you have "Show Hidden and System files" enabled in Folder Options?
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Yeah, I do. "Show hidden files and folders" option is selected, and "Hide protected operating system files" option is unchecked. These are all there is in the SD card.
And now not just the SD card, but it also happens in the phone memory. Had 1.9 GB free. Copied 600 MB of images. Suddenly only 900 MB free. Might have to reset the phone to get that space back now. This is a real annoyance.

Mtp could hide a hold file system. Some of the elic hidden folders can be watched with mediaajdio2 plugin, but the best ghing you can do for investigate is to pu off the card and check the fs with a card reader. But there might be some morereally fs hodden folder, but 99% therd wont be

GoodDayToDie said:
Do you have "Show Hidden and System files" enabled in Folder Options?
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kiss.adam.pacman said:
Mtp could hide a hold file system. Some of the elic hidden folders can be watched with mediaajdio2 plugin, but the best ghing you can do for investigate is to pu off the card and check the fs with a card reader. But there might be some morereally fs hodden folder, but 99% therd wont be
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Thanks for the idea of using a card reader. That helped me get to the root of the mystery, though I don't know how to fix it yet.
Alright, so I formatted the SD card again, copied my music into it again, and checked the free space. No problems.
Next, I copied ~100 MB of images. Again, ~160 MB space was lost instead of ~100 MB.
And then, I put the SD card into the card reader. Here, it showed a hidden folder WPSystem. Inside, as shown below, it's as if it's keeping a slightly downscaled copy of every single image I copy into it.
This is where the space is going. And this is extremely irritating. I read comics and manga a lot on this phone, and they're most of the time in the format of seperate images, totalling upto several hundereds of MB. When each 100 MB means I lose like an additional 60 MB, it becomes a huge waste of space.
Does anyone know why this might be happening and what I could do to stop this? This wasn't happening until I updated to 8.1. If someone here has some time to kill, I'd be glad if they could copy a few hundred MB of images to their phone and see whether this occurs. Copying this much of image files into their phones is not something most people do, so this bug might be overlooked.

[Q]

First off, let me apologize if this isn't in the right forum. I come on here every once in a blue moon.
I've reloaded 4.4.2 on my at&t s4 active i537. The first couple times because I've tried different safestrap ROM's and they've all failed. Most recently due to the 5.0.1 lollipop update. I hate it with a burning passion. I feel like if Windows 8 and Apple IOS had a baby, it's name would be lollipop. But I digress.
So anyway, during this process of reloading my stock NE3 rom, I didn't save my pictures to my desktop therfore after a factory reset, they were gone.(thanks TTB for not backing up the sole purpose of the app). So I grabbed an app off the play store called "disk digger". It really an amazing app. It searched through my phone and got every single PNG and JPEG photo I have on my phone, even the ones from my Samsung infuse (I'm using the same SD card). But the only issue is that theyre all squares. They're not the full ratio pictures that they were originally in, but they're the safe 1080p pictures that were taken.
For example, I had used snapsave and had hundreds of automatically saved photos wich I thought were gone. But lone behold, they appeared in this disk digger app. But they were square photos and not the original rectangular ones. It's almost like they're just thumbnails.
So my question here is, if they're somehow still on my phone, how do I get them In there original form?
Thank you in advance.

ZERT_TITAN said:
First off, let me apologize if this isn't in the right forum. I come on here every once in a blue moon.
I've reloaded 4.4.2 on my at&t s4 active i537. The first couple times because I've tried different safestrap ROM's and they've all failed. Most recently due to the 5.0.1 lollipop update. I hate it with a burning passion. I feel like if Windows 8 and Apple IOS had a baby, it's name would be lollipop. But I digress.
So anyway, during this process of reloading my stock NE3 rom, I didn't save my pictures to my desktop therfore after a factory reset, they were gone.(thanks TTB for not backing up the sole purpose of the app). So I grabbed an app off the play store called "disk digger". It really an amazing app. It searched through my phone and got every single PNG and JPEG photo I have on my phone, even the ones from my Samsung infuse (I'm using the same SD card). But the only issue is that theyre all squares. They're not the full ratio pictures that they were originally in, but they're the safe 1080p pictures that were taken.
For example, I had used snapsave and had hundreds of automatically saved photos wich I thought were gone. But lone behold, they appeared in this disk digger app. But they were square photos and not the original rectangular ones. It's almost like they're just thumbnails.
So my question here is, if they're somehow still on my phone, how do I get them In there original form?
Thank you in advance.
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First of all your on the wrong section. Try to post in correct section so that you'll get appropriate help.
So, Were those photos on external SD card?

They are "remrants" of the photos. The thumbnails saved in temp maybe?
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Americanu93 said:
They are "remrants" of the photos. The thumbnails saved in temp maybe?
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When you formated original copies, were they in internal memory or external?
If they were in external, then there's a software that can help you recover photos in original size.

hitman-xda said:
First of all your on the wrong section. Try to post in correct section so that you'll get appropriate help.
So, Were those photos on external SD card?
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They are "remrants" of the photos. The thumbnails saved in temp maybe?
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When you formated original copies, were they in internal memory or external?
If they were in external, then there's a software that can help you recover photos in original size.
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I had original posted this in XD player forum or something like that. I don't know how it got there but long story short, I reported it and the admin sent it here.
Otherwise I have no clue where they were put originally . I do know that the photos on my SD card that are in DCIM are in the results that are generated by the app and are full. Pictures. I also know that there are stock pictures that from the apps. (like arrows and logos that are put in the app code or whatever by the app creator). I don't understand how these can be there if I had factory reset the phone.
I know disk digger gives the option to select internal and external. When I select external., it came up with over 7000 photos, most of them are the ones I want but are in the format I explained in the original post.

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I had original posted this in XD player forum or something like that. I don't know how it got there but long story short, I reported it and the admin sent it here.
Otherwise I have no clue where they were put originally . I do know that the photos on my SD card that are in DCIM are in the results that are generated by the app and are full. Pictures. I also know that there are stock pictures that from the apps. (like arrows and logos that are put in the app code or whatever by the app creator). I don't understand how these can be there if I had factory reset the phone.
I know disk digger gives the option to select internal and external. When I select external., it came up with over 7000 photos, most of them are the ones I want but are in the format I explained in the original post.
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Usually apps create its directories into internal storage. DiskDigger and other android apps doesn't extract images into it's original form.
I know a computer software that can extract your images in its original form.
You should check this once.
It works on windows.
You have to connect your SD card with the help of card reader.
Scan and recover.
Below is the direct link to download software.
fs37.filehippo.com/5406/cb2c01f67d5b4f9096af0dfd91d5e4cb/pci_filerecovery.exe
(Just copy above and paste it in your browser)
Hope this would help you.

How to backup phone in absence of TWRP ?

Im using a custom rom(Pixel Dust 11) rooted with Magisk. As we don't have twrp for our phones can anyone tell me how to do a full backup of my phone? I want to be able to restore it to it current state after flashing the stock rom to test a few things. Thanks in advance for your replies.

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This: SanDisk 512GB Ultra Dual Drive Luxe USB Type-C - SDDDC4-512G-G46
About $60 Transfers at around [email protected]
I back that up to at least 2 hdds.
That's how I back up my SD card.
I never ever trust cloud storage for mass storage except for gmail which is expendable.

Honestly, I feel like the automatic Google backup is a joke. One time I wiped my phone on purpose and I let it do its job out of curiosity and was glad that I didn't actually rely on it. Pretty much no apps had data that I could observe, it then didn't even restore the full listing of apps anyways. I don't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure my call history and SMS/MMS was left 99% blank. If it was supposed to be restored over time, it certainly gave no indication of such.
Just to be sure, I used every method Titanium Backup offered to store SMS/MMS/call logs. I think one of them didn't restore effortlessly, but at least one did. Of course it worked for the apps.
Unfortunately there isn't a TWRP that works for A11 and our phones at the moment? At least that was the case last I looked. I don't personally know of a safe way to restore back to your custom ROM like nothing happened.

jljtgr said:
Honestly, I feel like the automatic Google backup is a joke. One time I wiped my phone on purpose and I let it do its job out of curiosity and was glad that I didn't actually rely on it. Pretty much no apps had data that I could observe, it then didn't even restore the full listing of apps anyways. I don't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure my call history and SMS/MMS was left 99% blank. If it was supposed to be restored over time, it certainly gave no indication of such.
Just to be sure, I used every method Titanium Backup offered to store SMS/MMS/call logs. I think one of them didn't restore effortlessly, but at least one did. Of course it worked for the apps.
Unfortunately there isn't a TWRP that works for A11 and our phones at the moment? At least that was the case last I looked. I don't personally know of a safe way to restore back to your custom ROM like nothing happened.
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Google backup is a real sick joke. It runs constantly in the background using battery and bandwidth like a rabid hog.
It shouldn't be trusted to do anything other than drain the battery
I use Gmail and if Google leaves it alone it works well and has saved me from many malware infections over the last 15 years. yay.
Google Firebase is a glutanous data whore, disable it.
AT&T backs up my SMS messages and that actually has worked very well. Lol, it's the only AT&T app I use.
Everything else I backup. No wondering if it will be restored... or waiting for it to download.
Unfortunately on a stock Android there's no way to clone the OS image. If there was I could store that on the SD card for a surefire easy reload.

blackhawk said:
This: SanDisk 512GB Ultra Dual Drive Luxe USB Type-C - SDDDC4-512G-G46
About $60 Transfers at around [email protected]
I back that up to at least 2 hdds.
That's how I back up my SD card.
I never ever trust cloud storage for mass storage except for gmail which is expendable.
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+1! 128GB Samsung USB drive is what I use and an otg cable. Works well and cost $17 for 128gb USB new and $3 for otg cable. I've been doing this for years and works great!

jljtgr said:
Honestly, I feel like the automatic Google backup is a joke. One time I wiped my phone on purpose and I let it do its job out of curiosity and was glad that I didn't actually rely on it. Pretty much no apps had data that I could observe, it then didn't even restore the full listing of apps anyways. I don't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure my call history and SMS/MMS was left 99% blank. If it was supposed to be restored over time, it certainly gave no indication of such.
Just to be sure, I used every method Titanium Backup offered to store SMS/MMS/call logs. I think one of them didn't restore effortlessly, but at least one did. Of course it worked for the apps.
Unfortunately there isn't a TWRP that works for A11 and our phones at the moment? At least that was the case last I looked. I don't personally know of a safe way to restore back to your custom ROM like nothing happened.
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Check out Swift backup from Playstore. It works on all my devices and definitely took the place of the ole TBU pro..

flash713 said:
Check out Swift backup from Playstore. It works on all my devices and definitely took the place of the ole TBU pro..
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That's fine for people looking for a new solution... but why would I switch? A different UI isn't something I'm looking for when I know what I have works and takes minimal effort to use. If it did something more, like TWRP, then that'd be great... but I don't think it does.