Hello!
I'm getting a used XZ1 Compact, it is rooted, but I want to completely wipe and re-flash it with newest stock firmware. How do I do this? I have some experience of re-flashing Samsung smartphones, so I know there should be a piece of software and some FW image. Where can I get those? Is there something else I should know about re-flashing with stock image?
Download newest firmware with Xperifirm and flash with Newflasher, both available here on xda. The bootloader however, can't be relocked, so if you choose not to root, stuff like google pay, some banking apps etc. wont work.
Mara-X said:
Download newest firmware with Xperifirm and flash with Newflasher, both available here on xda. The bootloader however, can't be relocked, so if you choose not to root, stuff like google pay, some banking apps etc. wont work.
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So basically, there was something done to bootloader that cannot be undone? And if I re-flash the firmware, I will still have to root again, because some apps won't work? Is that right?
Tacis said:
So basically, there was something done to bootloader that cannot be undone? And if I re-flash the firmware, I will still have to root again, because some apps won't work? Is that right?
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Yep. You won't get OTA updates either, rooted or not, without some workaround with a custom kernel.
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Yep. You won't get OTA updates either, without some workaround with a custom kernel.
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OK, thank you! I better cancel the purchase...
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Ok, hope I don't get too much heat over this, my old device was a Samsung with unlocked bootloader, so everything was easily flashed.
Anyway, as to the best order of things, I'm still on AT&T 4.2.2 pre camera update, so I easily rooted with with pwnmymoto. I have Xposed installed with a few modules.
For the unlock steps -looks like this is the best guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51363645&postcount=394 and using: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-c
Q: Is my recovery from pwnmymoto "stock" as it needs to be for unlocking process?
Can I just uncheck/disable the modules I have with xposed, or do I need to delete the framework? (which sounds like the only way is to use RSD to install the original ROM?)
Should I also unfreeze any files? (I think I only froze the one's related to motorola OTA)
My intent is to get to 4.4.2, and I know it's optimal to remove things from pwnmymoto (I know unlocking will wipe everything but my ROM), so probably after I've installed TWRP and rooted, to flash the file for AT&T 4.4.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/-t2688009 or does it need to be incremental, as I'm on 4.2 (i.e flash 4.2 camera update, then 4.4, etc.) -sorry if I seem a bit confused
Thanks in advance! any and all help is very much appreciated!
Hopefully not too many questions -if any has the best suggestion for any, would be great
M973 said:
Hopefully not too many questions -if any has the best suggestion for any, would be great
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Just to be clear if you eant 4.4.2 stock use the xposed framework disabler, it said leaving the modules was ok according to the link you posted. I don't know personally.
But honestly if your unlocking the bootloader then just go to 4.4.2 first then unlock since you'll lose everything. I believe bootloader unlock wipes the system parition too. I don't know for sure.
drago10029 said:
Just to be clear if you eant 4.4.2 stock use the xposed framework disabler, it said leaving the modules was ok according to the link you posted. I don't know personally.
But honestly if your unlocking the bootloader then just go to 4.4.2 first then unlock since you'll lose everything. I believe bootloader unlock wipes the system parition too. I don't know for sure.
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I think 4.4.2 isn't fully released yet OTA for AT&T, so it would be flashing to stock and taking each OTA in sequence to 4.4 I think? I believe the framework disabler is a zip that needs to be flashed, so that would only be after I have a custom recovery.
I just don't want to mess up anything, want to make sure I have the right recovery for unlocking, and that I've disabled anything that could cause an issue.
Edit: from the pwnmymoto thread, Jcase writes: "In the process we remove stock recovery, so OTAs will not be a worry."
I guess that means i don't have stock recovery?
Edit: I was thinking I needed stock recovery, I guess I just need fastboot which is what I have?
I just want to make sure, if anyone has unlocked from pwnmymoto
Thanks
M973 said:
I think 4.4.2 isn't fully released yet OTA for AT&T, so it would be flashing to stock and taking each OTA in sequence to 4.4 I think? I believe the framework disabler is a zip that needs to be flashed, so that would only be after I have a custom recovery.
I just don't want to mess up anything, want to make sure I have the right recovery for unlocking, and that I've disabled anything that could cause an issue.
Edit: from the pwnmymoto thread, Jcase writes: "In the process we remove stock recovery, so OTAs will not be a worry."
I guess that means i don't have stock recovery?
Edit: I was thinking I needed stock recovery, I guess I just need fastboot which is what I have?
I just want to make sure, if anyone has unlocked from pwnmymoto
Thanks
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np problem bro, happy rooting! may the flash be ever in your favor
Hello to the great people at xda..
Sorry for being a noob about it but i have certain questions about my c6902. First off my Z1 is rooted with the build number .157 with the stock os and the stock recovery. As of now i have been getting all OTAs without a problem. However, i would like to know what would happen if i install a custom recovery. Will it stop the OTAs? If yes, then which OTAs will it stop? Will it stop just the system OTAs or the application OTAs as well like walkman album etc.? Or will i just be able to see the available updates but would never be able to install them? And how can i revert back to the stock recovery? Would it make everything just as the way it was before with no strings attached? Sorry again for such a basic though as i couldn't find an answer anywhere else. Thanks a ton!
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Hello to the great people at xda..
Sorry for being a noob about it but i have certain questions about my c6902. First off my Z1 is rooted with the build number .157 with the stock os and the stock recovery. As of now i have been getting all OTAs without a problem. However, i would like to know what would happen if i install a custom recovery. Will it stop the OTAs? If yes, then which OTAs will it stop? Will it stop just the system OTAs or the application OTAs as well like walkman album etc.? Or will i just be able to see the available updates but would never be able to install them? And how can i revert back to the stock recovery? Would it make everything just as the way it was before with no strings attached? Sorry again for such a basic though as i couldn't find an answer anywhere else. Thanks a ton!
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if your bootloader stays locked, you CAN recieve OTA updates, but if you rooted with towelroot (i expect that because your an .157, like me ) you wont be able to apply system OTA updates cause they can not be verified. but OTA updates for Walkman or other apps will work.
Only the system updates are broken with the towelroot method. but of course you can install a custom recovery to revert to stock recovery, just flash the ftf with flashtool again and you have your stock recovery back (but make shure to untick the wipe boxes in flashtool
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if your bootloader stays locked, you CAN recieve OTA updates, but if you rooted with towelroot (i expect that because your an .157, like me ) you wont be able to apply system OTA updates cause they can not be verified. but OTA updates for Walkman or other apps will work.
Only the system updates are broken with the towelroot method. but of course you can install a custom recovery to revert to stock recovery, just flash the ftf with flashtool again and you have your stock recovery back (but make shure to untick the wipe boxes in flashtool
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Thanks a lot for the info . So I get what you're saying and 'tis true that I'm rooted with towel root. So that means that I won't be able to install system OTAs and that's ok. Also you already have been very helpful but would you be kind enough to please send me a link for the stock recovery's ftf? Have you successfully tried doing the same on 157?
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Thanks a lot for the info . So I get what you're saying and 'tis true that I'm rooted with towel root. So that means that I won't be able to install system OTAs and that's ok. Also you already have been very helpful but would you be kind enough to please send me a link for the stock recovery's ftf? Have you successfully tried doing the same on 157?
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There isnt a "recovery ftf", you have to flash the whole ftf all over it again and than you have stock recovery back
and yes i did the same on .157, i flashed this Baltic version: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_d8uWGbkaetRjFOYkZib0Z1Y1k/view?usp=sharing the baltic version works fine for me too, im from germany but i guess it should work (at least for european users) if you are not from europe, just flash .108 or .133 and update and root
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There isnt a "recovery ftf", you have to flash the whole ftf all over it again and than you have stock recovery back
and yes i did the same on .157, i flashed this Baltic version: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_d8uWGbkaetRjFOYkZib0Z1Y1k/view?usp=sharing the baltic version works fine for me too, im from germany but i guess it should work (at least for european users) if you are not from europe, just flash .108 or .133 and update and root
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Ok.. But what if I do a full system repair using the pc companion? Would it do the same thing? Also, would pc companion have any problems detecting or repairing the phone with the custom recovery installed?
ronnie141 said:
Ok.. But what if I do a full system repair using the pc companion? Would it do the same thing? Also, would pc companion have any problems detecting or repairing the phone with the custom recovery installed?
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Pc companion works too, but the system repair from pc -c will wipe your data! So all your data is lost.
With flashtool youcan decide if you want to keep your data or to do to a wipe
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Pc companion works too, but the system repair from pc -c will wipe your data! So all your data is lost.
With flashtool youcan decide if you want to keep your data or to do to a wipe
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Oh thank-you so so much. You have been a great help
topic. thanks!
No. Not by accepting an OTA update. You'll have to update and re root.
what about getting rid of the update notification? is it possible to get rid of it?
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topic. thanks!
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Yes you can. Install ota rootkeeper from playstore.
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I don't even get the update when I check since it has been modified in an "unauthorized way"
You can update via odin. Not through an OTA. Root has still not been written for 5.1.1, so if you want to keep root, don't update.
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I don't even get the update when I check since it has been modified in an "unauthorized way"
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Dont Update!!!!!!! Not only do you lose root BUT you also lose your unlocked bootloader and you cant flash custom recoveries anymore until someone comes up with a method and you can't downgrade.
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Dont Update!!!!!!! Not only do you lose root BUT you also lose your unlocked bootloader and you cant flash custom recoveries anymore until someone comes up with a method and you can't downgrade.
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The bootloader is still unlocked. It's custom recoveries like TWRP that need to be updated to work in conjunction with the new bootloader. That's all.
I have a Verizon Nexus 6 that is rooted, unlocked, custom TWRP recovery and stock running 5.1 build LMY47E and I am getting the OTA notification for the 5.1.1 update. I have searched a good deal of places and haven't found the answer to how I might go about getting the update. I have been out of the rooting game for several years, so I am rusty and need a little help. I wasn't sure if there was a way to take the update and stay rooted or if I have to completely undo everything back to stock. Any info would be a great help and appreciated.
I could be mistaken, but I don't think that you can take an OTA amd remain rooted. I think it will break root, and you will have to re-root.
What I would suggest is to just flash a custom ROM that is build on 5.1.1 like Beans' PureNexus. That is what I am running, and it is great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-pure-nexus-project-t3148214
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I have a Verizon Nexus 6 that is rooted, unlocked, custom TWRP recovery and stock running 5.1 build LMY47E and I am getting the OTA notification for the 5.1.1 update. I have searched a good deal of places and haven't found the answer to how I might go about getting the update. I have been out of the rooting game for several years, so I am rusty and need a little help. I wasn't sure if there was a way to take the update and stay rooted or if I have to completely undo everything back to stock. Any info would be a great help and appreciated.
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I could be mistaken, but I don't think that you can take an OTA amd remain rooted. I think it will break root, and you will have to re-root.
What I would suggest is to just flash a custom ROM that is build on 5.1.1 like Beans' PureNexus. That is what I am running, and it is great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-pure-nexus-project-t3148214
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When installing a recovery, the updater script looks at system and boot. This means that you can not be rooted and and have the stock, encrypted kernel. You also need to have stock recovery to install the OTA.
You can download the 5.1.1 factory image from Google and flash the boot.img, system.img, bootloader.img, and radio.img. Then, while still in bootloader, select "recovery" and you will boot to TWRP where you can flash the SuperSU.zip.
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I could be mistaken, but I don't think that you can take an OTA amd remain rooted. I think it will break root, and you will have to re-root.
What I would suggest is to just flash a custom ROM that is build on 5.1.1 like Beans' PureNexus. That is what I am running, and it is great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-pure-nexus-project-t3148214
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The OTA will not install when the device is rooted
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When installing a recovery, the updater script looks at system and boot. This means that you can not be rooted and and have the stock, encrypted kernel. You also need to have stock recovery to install the OTA.
You can download the 5.1.1 factory image from Google and flash the boot.img, system.img, bootloader.img, and radio.img. Then, while still in bootloader, select "recovery" and you will boot to TWRP where you can flash the SuperSU.zip.
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Just checked again and yes I am rooted, with TWRP and I also checked and the device is not encrypted, so maybe that is why I am getting the notification. I really appreciate your input on getting the update installed.
evolefty said:
Just checked again and yes I am rooted, with TWRP and I also checked and the device is not encrypted, so maybe that is why I am getting the notification. I really appreciate your input on getting the update installed.
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You'll get the notification. You just can't flash it.
I'm not sure there's been a full, satisfactory answer to this thread (or a few others). Would using something like Nexus Root Toolkit to 1) unroot 2) restore stock recovery, 3) accept the OTA. Will this work?
- Does this relock the bootloader? (Would we then have to unlock, thus wiping the device?)
- Can we successfully re-root and flash recovery? (Or will new 5.1.1 versions be needed?)
At some point, to get 5.1.1 going, should I just backup and flash the whole bloody image from Google?
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I'm not sure there's been a full, satisfactory answer to this thread (or a few others). Would using something like Nexus Root Toolkit to 1) unroot 2) restore stock recovery, 3) accept the OTA. Will this work?
- Does this relock the bootloader? (Would we then have to unlock, thus wiping the device?)
- Can we successfully re-root and flash recovery? (Or will new 5.1.1 versions be needed?)
At some point, to get 5.1.1 going, should I just backup and flash the whole bloody image from Google?
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- OTA`s will not install if the sytem, boot and recovery are modified in any way.
- Reflashing the stock image will NOT lock the bootloader
- And yes you can flash a custom recovery and reroot after updating.
Or flash the latest stock rom with TWRP from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/fxz-nexus-6-recovery-flashable-fastboot-t3066052.
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- OTA`s will not install if the sytem, boot and recovery are modified in any way.
- Reflashing the stock image will NOT lock the bootloader
- And yes you can flash a custom recovery and reroot after updating.
Or flash the latest stock rom with TWRP from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/fxz-nexus-6-recovery-flashable-fastboot-t3066052.
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So the question that started this thread: My system is technically modified. Can I unroot and replace recovery, and now be in a sufficiently "unmodified" state? OR, do I have to lock the bootloader in order for the OTA to continue?
I think the OP and myself are trying to do the same thing: We're lazy, we don't want to wipe, we don't want to lose data, we just want the OTA without having to reflash the whole thing. Does anyone know if this is possible?
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So the question that started this thread: My system is technically modified. Can I unroot and replace recovery, and now be in a sufficiently "unmodified" state? OR, do I have to lock the bootloader in order for the OTA to continue?
I think the OP and myself are trying to do the same thing: We're lazy, we don't want to wipe, we don't want to lose data, we just want the OTA without having to reflash the whole thing. Does anyone know if this is possible?
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Best/easiest is to:
- fastboot erase system
- fastboot flash system system.img
- flash the stock boot and recovery.img if needed
- adb sideload the OTA in stock recovery
This will not wipe your device
And you don`t have to lock the bootloader ever unless you have too RMA it or send it in for service, OTA`s will even install with a unlocked bootloader.
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So the question that started this thread: My system is technically modified. Can I unroot and replace recovery, and now be in a sufficiently "unmodified" state? OR, do I have to lock the bootloader in order for the OTA to continue?
I think the OP and myself are trying to do the same thing: We're lazy, we don't want to wipe, we don't want to lose data, we just want the OTA without having to reflash the whole thing. Does anyone know if this is possible?
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Supplementing that: using the "unroot" function in SuperSU is not sufficient with Lollipop. It still leaves the vestiges of a few modified files that will cause an OTA to fail.
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Best/easiest is to:
- fastboot erase system
- fastboot flash system system.img
- flash the stock boot and recovery.img if needed
- adb sideload the OTA in stock recovery
This will not wipe your device
And you don`t have to lock the bootloader ever unless you have too RMA it or send it in for service, OTA`s will even install with a unlocked bootloader.
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gee2012 said:
Best/easiest is to:
- fastboot erase system
- fastboot flash system system.img
- flash the stock boot and recovery.img if needed
- adb sideload the OTA in stock recovery
This will not wipe your device
And you don`t have to lock the bootloader ever unless you have too RMA it or send it in for service, OTA`s will even install with a unlocked bootloader.
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Thanks for the info and I really appreciate your input. What are your feelings on using Wug's toolkit to unroot and go back stock, take the update, then re-root and flash the custom recovery. I have never used a toolkit before, but that seems to be the popular method. Like I said at the beginning I am new to all of this, the last device I rooted and really messed around with was the droid x so bear with me as I am learning. I am currently reading about Wug's and will look at the method you just spoke of, but any info would be great.
evolefty said:
Thanks for the info and I really appreciate your input. What are your feelings on using Wug's toolkit to unroot and go back stock, take the update, then re-root and flash the custom recovery. I have never used a toolkit before, but that seems to be the popular method. Like I said at the beginning I am new to all of this, the last device I rooted and really messed around with was the droid x so bear with me as I am learning. I am currently reading about Wug's and will look at the method you just spoke of, but any info would be great.
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I don`t like Toolkits tbh because like with all automated applications the unexperienced user has no idea whats going/has zero control over whats happening and if something goes wrong they can`t fix the issue. Imo its best to learn adb/fastboot/sideload.
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I don`t like Toolkits tbh because like with all automated applications the unexperienced user has no idea whats going/has zero control over whats happening and if something goes wrong they can`t fix the issue. Imo its best to learn adb/fastboot/sideload.
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Gotcha, and completely understand. I will do some reading on that method and again thanks for your help.
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Gotcha, and completely understand. I will do some reading on that method and again thanks for your help.
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Read the sticky threads http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-sticky-roll-thread-t3061066, this is a good start. Adb and fastboot isn`t that hard but its very safe and effective
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Read the sticky threads http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-sticky-roll-thread-t3061066, this is a good start. Adb and fastboot isn`t that hard but its very safe and effective
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Will do, and that is the method I used to root for the simple fact to learn.
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Will do, and that is the method I used to root for the simple fact to learn.
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Good luck
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- OTA`s will not install if the sytem, boot and recovery are modified in any way.
- Reflashing the stock image will NOT lock the bootloader
- And yes you can flash a custom recovery and reroot after updating.
Or flash the latest stock rom with TWRP from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/fxz-nexus-6-recovery-flashable-fastboot-t3066052.
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In that link you sent I am not seeing the VZW version of 5.1.1. Can we use the "International" version?
Thank you.
needoZ said:
In that link you sent I am not seeing the VZW version of 5.1.1. Can we use the "International" version?
Thank you.
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Yes, use the LMY47Z build.
DogzOfWar said:
So the question that started this thread: My system is technically modified. Can I unroot and replace recovery, and now be in a sufficiently "unmodified" state? OR, do I have to lock the bootloader in order for the OTA to continue?
I think the OP and myself are trying to do the same thing: We're lazy, we don't want to wipe, we don't want to lose data, we just want the OTA without having to reflash the whole thing. Does anyone know if this is possible?
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Bootloader does not have to be locked to take an OTA. You can not be rooted or modified in any way however.
gee2012 said:
I don`t like Toolkits tbh because like with all automated applications the unexperienced user has no idea whats going/has zero control over whats happening and if something goes wrong they can`t fix the issue. Imo its best to learn adb/fastboot/sideload.
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While I agree, once you have "paid your dues" and flashed without automation then the NRT is a great tool, so long as you have an understanding of what it is doing.
I flashed my phone with CyanogenMod13, completely not knowing what I was doing. I realized there were a few bugs on CM13 like my camera not working and things like that so I want to go back to stock Marshmallow 6.0.1 so I can have FOTA and a fully functioning phone. I know it was pretty silly of me to actually attempt this without consideration but could anyone help me out on getting back?
I have a Z5 Compact E5823.
Thanks.
Just download flashtool, stock firmware and flash it
btw. It's Xperia Z section, not Z5
Thanks man, sorry about the wrong section.
Will I be able to flash stock rom and receive OTA updates? My bootloader is currently unlocked.
I have already tried flashing before and I am getting random errors each time, with all drivers downloaded properly.
I flashed it with Emma last night and it took me to 5.1.1, and I cant receive any updates, so what am I doing wrong?
I want to go back to stock rom with OTA updates, although CyanogenMod13 was great.
MattyCurrann said:
Thanks man, sorry about the wrong section.
Will I be able to flash stock rom and receive OTA updates? My bootloader is currently unlocked.
I have already tried flashing before and I am getting random errors each time, with all drivers downloaded properly.
I flashed it with Emma last night and it took me to 5.1.1, and I cant receive any updates, so what am I doing wrong?
I want to go back to stock rom with OTA updates, although CyanogenMod13 was great.
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Nope, OTA not working on unlocked bootloader, this can brick your phone
How can I lock my bootloader? Or do you think its recommended I keep the bootloader unlocked?
I just wanted to go back to stock rom for OTA updates thats all.
Many thanks.
MattyCurrann said:
How can I lock my bootloader? Or do you think its recommended I keep the bootloader unlocked?
I just wanted to go back to stock rom for OTA updates thats all.
Many thanks.
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Do you have TA partition backup? If no, it's not posible to relock bootloader
Kuciak said:
Do you have TA partition backup? If no, it's not posible to relock bootloader
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I don't even know what that is lol. I should've done research in advance before proceeding to unlock my bootloader. I did make a backup of everything though, I used a tutorial, I used TWRP to backup stuff, or something like that?
Also, is there no way to receive OTA updates now that my bootloader is unlocked? Will flashing stock rom not allow me to receive OTA updates?
Thanks for your ongoing support btw, really stressing me out lol.