Galaxy s10 9730 Snpadragon (Chinese Version) Frequency Band - Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers

Hi all,
It's been long time since I posted anything here so excuse me if this post should go to another section (if needed feel free to move it).
I just received my Galaxy s10 9730 Snpadragon (Chinese Version) and all is good except that my phone doesn't get LTE (4G is max) with my carrier (Fido Canada, Rogers is probably the same). I've done some research and what I could understand the phone is missing Band 17 (700 MHz) - correct me if I am wrong, which doesn't get me LTE.
Is there any way to add the missing band to my phone? I wasn't planning rooting the phone and I would prefer not to do it if I don't have to but if I have to I guess I'll have to do it as it's very stupid to pay for the phone $1,200 CDN and have 4G max.
Please help by posting here (or refer me to) detailed instructions, I can follow the instruction really well as I did install different ROMs on my Galaxy S5 but I am not so great with terminology.
Thank you all of you willing to help!
dj

4G=LTE. There is a different status bar indication in different regions.
You can try to change FW to Hong Kong (TGY), it's closer to european (have full Google services, more localizations and bands...

Thanks for reply!
I don't think it's only status bar indicator as when I tested speed on 4G it gave me 35Mbps but I remember with my old phone I was going over 50Mbps.
I can still try what you said but I didn't understand how would I change FW (assuming it's firmware).
Do I have to reload the whole phone?
Do you think applying update in Canada would pull proper files/settings/updates?
Thank you

I'm using a SM-G9730 (rooted) in Canada.
Prior to root, i was applying updates without any issues. I wouldn't touch your firmware, keep it as it is and apply updates as pushed out through the samsung update near the bottom of your settings.
If you're curious about what bands are in your area, i'm sure there's resources to find it. I'm on Bell and have no issues on 4G, though i mainly use 3g/H+ (battery savings/use less data/range).
djenka2 said:
Thanks for reply!
I don't think it's only status bar indicator as when I tested speed on 4G it gave me 35Mbps but I remember with my old phone I was going over 50Mbps.
I can still try what you said but I didn't understand how would I change FW (assuming it's firmware).
Do I have to reload the whole phone?
Do you think applying update in Canada would pull proper files/settings/updates?
Thank you
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T-Mobile Galaxy Tab Modem

Using TMO Tab with OC Kernel 2.1.6 (and bought a few six-packs for Alter to say TY for the great job!) and have been actively following the threads on the T-Mobile Modem.
Can't post in Dev section yet, so I am dropping this here in the hopes I can get an answer. There is a "bounty" offered on one thread for a modem.bin that will work with the T-Mo Tab, but so far no solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951930
For what it is worth, I am in for $50.00 on this, too, but I won't post for the sake of getting up to the required number to get on the Dev boards, so I am hoping the OP on this thread sees this and can add me.
Triplex76, at the end of the thread says he got this working:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13585472&postcount=182
I have downloaded the t959 (galaxy s tmobile) modem.bin Triplex recommended, but I get the same poor result Roto reported in numerous threads - seems the signal comes and goes and this is too unstable to use.
Triplex indicated you have to have the corrrect email.apk to make this work, and I figure I do, with OC's ROM.
Can anyone else who has tried this yet weigh in? Keeping fingers crossed.
I scolded him for putting that stuff up without a complete explanation. Outside of the US some members can use a T959 vibrant modem and get voice, data, and 3g speed. But in the US it is not possible, so the bounty is out there to encourage someone to work around the T-Mo restriction. In the US we can use the Roto Switch to get those features, as two separate modem flashes. Sorry.
Thank you for the insight. Near as I can tell the modem will work well in Europe (3G and Voice there vs 2G and Voice or 3G only here). I am on an upcoming working vacation in Europe in September and need data there for maps, nav, contact with tour providers, hotels, rail, etc. Net-net very data intensive. Appreciate your clarifying the distinction. Seems ironic that my only.optimal experience will be over there unless a fix for Tmous modem comes sooner.
Now I have to find a reasonable global SIM card. Or switch my eoc Verizon to a new AT&T phone and use that SIM.
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You can get T-Mobile prepaid sims in a lot of Europe. You are better off that way, to get the 3g on their unique frequency.
Question about SIM cards
Ranger -
Thanks for the advice. I just saw the latest Overcome ROM so I will be downloading and running the full install before I wrap up the night.
Meantime, I am still struggling with the SIM thing - I have a VZ phone coming off contract next month, and I am thinking of switching to an AT&T. Do you know if I can use that SIM for voice and data in the T-Mo Tab overseas (or here with the 2G Data until someone comes up with a modem )? I can get a local SIM once I am on the ground there, but I have to have access once the plane lands as I have a group of 4 of us I am responsible for managing travel for.
On an aside, I was hoping the Gingerbread release would offer some better modem options but it now seems there may never be a fix, which is too bad, because I would infinitely rather have just one device (my Tab!).
Thanks infinitely for your help and enjoy the new ROM!
@Ranger - Can you help me out again please?
rangercaptain said:
You can get T-Mobile prepaid sims in a lot of Europe. You are better off that way, to get the 3g on their unique frequency.
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I flashed Hermes, then Icarus, and the Tab Experience gets better each time! I am now able to use the modem switcher (and by changing the line to "reboot normal" in gscript, it still reboots - not bad for a noob, huh? ), but I want to use this as my primary phone, so T-Mo seems to be out.
Can I buy either the AT&T or the International TAB if I want 3G+Data and am willing to get a 3rd Party pay-go SIM (like Tru)? Thank you again for all your help!
rich_cathyrock said:
I flashed Hermes, then Icarus, and the Tab Experience gets better each time! I am now able to use the modem switcher (and by changing the line to "reboot normal" in gscript, it still reboots - not bad for a noob, huh? ), but I want to use this as my primary phone, so T-Mo seems to be out.
Can I buy either the AT&T or the International TAB if I want 3G+Data and am willing to get a 3rd Party pay-go SIM (like Tru)? Thank you again for all your help!
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In the US, the at&t tab is the best "everything" experience. Friends in Spain and Isreal have done what you thought - they bought a local sim equivelent to t-mobile (2100 band, without the 1700 band) and the Roto 2g modem gave them voice and 3g data with their t-mobile tab! I have not verified this, so perhaps a few members can confirm this for you.
Bottom line -- at&t tab will do everything everywhere you are traveling. T-mobile, with the switch, -- might do most of what you want. The international tab is mostly like at&t tab, it will work voice and 3g everywhere.

[Q] Stock, unbranded, UK firmware

I have a I9305 purchased from Hong Kong which came loaded with HK firmware, whilst it would have worked, for various reasons I want to install UK firmware, specifically official/stock versions. (I have run custom ROMs on other handsets in the past, just going to stay official for a while with this one)
I don't want any carrier-specific stuff on there, nor so I want to be held back (in the future) waiting for carrier-specific upgrades etc.
I have a few, hopefully yes/no questions:
1. I've search and as far as I tell you there is no unbranded, UK, stock firmware available, is that correct? (guess this is because nobody's selling it unbranded in the UK yet)
2. Is the best thing to do to monitor sammobile and samsung-updates until I see what I want?
3. When I finally do get my hands on the firmware I'll flash it with Odin - will I automatically get subsequent updates via Kies/OTA?
I'm current running I9305XXALK3 for region DNF...which I thought might be international/country-agnostic but since the default language it offered me on first boot was Suomi I guess it's actually for Finland!
The phone works fine, but it's only Android 4.1.1 and obviously I'd like to get on 4.1.2, I suppose another country (e.g. Germany) but unbranded is ok...but not perfect
Apologies for the long, first, post, hope it's not too annoying...I'm just excited about retiring my Hero and enjoying this new beast!
1 Yes , here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942150
2 Why wait
3 You will with the above
Enjoy your new beast
Raistlin1158 said:
1 Yes , here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942150
2 Why wait
3 You will with the above
Enjoy your new beast
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Thanks for the response...but those are all EE branded, will that:
1. mean I have to wait for EE to approve future updates? (I'm thinking once we have unbranded/unlocked handsets in the UK they will receive upgrades first)
2. have any effect on the network e.g. performance, connectivity etc.? (I'm currently on 3, not EE/Orange)
Thanks for any additional info
No and there is no EE branding or bloatware just pure stock.
Raistlin1158 said:
No and there is no EE branding or bloatware just pure stock.
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Seriously!? - OK, that's great news - thank you for your help
hmmmmm...
OK, I've installed the latest i.e.
PDA: XXBMA6
PHONE: XXBLL5
CSC: EVRBLL1
A couple of observations:
1. As others have noted, the mobile network modes are limited to just 2 (2G/3G/4G auto connect & 3G only) whereas the previous firmware I was using had 4.
2. With the previous firmware it seemed to hold an H+ connection much better, with this firmware it seems to drop back to 3G+ most of the time.
Any thoughts? It would seem that this firmware, despite being official, is more limited than some others.
I'm not overly concerned with #1 (although does 3G only really mean just 3G or will it also use GPRS if that's all it can find?) but #2 (and I realise I haven't done any structured testing!) does worry me - I want the fastest speeds I can get as often as I can!
My gut feeling is that EE's firmware might not be optimal for those who want to operate on non-4G networks. (what does the Vodafone or O2 firmware have?)
Does anyone know for sure what's different and why?
Over active imagination?
Have flashed 3 different firmwares today
big-nose said:
1. As others have noted, the mobile network modes are limited to just 2 (2G/3G/4G auto connect & 3G only) whereas the previous firmware I was using had 4.
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^ this is true...but doesn't really bother me.
big-nose said:
2. With the previous firmware it seemed to hold an H+ connection much better, with this firmware it seems to drop back to 3G+ most of the time.
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^this I think is a mistake on my part, I've played around a bit more and it looks like (but could be my imagination of course!) that the phone jumps up to H+ on demand e.g. refreshing a web page causes it to switch up from 3G+ to H+ once the page is loaded it reverts to 3G+.
Am I going nuts?
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Have flashed 3 different firmwares today
^ this is true...but doesn't really bother me.
^this I think is a mistake on my part, I've played around a bit more and it looks like (but could be my imagination of course!) that the phone jumps up to H+ on demand e.g. refreshing a web page causes it to switch up from 3G+ to H+ once the page is loaded it reverts to 3G+.
Am I going nuts?
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What you are seeing is called fast dormancy. Its kind of a battery saving feature hence why H+ is not always on. Most networks support this nowadays.
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lyriquidperfection said:
What you are seeing is called fast dormancy. Its kind of a battery saving feature hence why H+ is not always on. Most networks support this nowadays.
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Ah, ok, that makes sense, did wonder whether it backed-off to save power
Thanks for the education
@big-nose.
Can I ask, did you get the phone from Simply Electronics? Im currently waiting on mine arriving and since I ordered it have found out that their main warehouse is in HK, so I think I will be getting the same phone as you.
Im on Orange just now and when my contract is up will switch over to EE for the 4G, so will probably just flash the EE Firmware whenever the phone arrives.
Cheers
johnnyblaze1977 said:
@big-nose.
Can I ask, did you get the phone from Simply Electronics? Im currently waiting on mine arriving and since I ordered it have found out that their main warehouse is in HK, so I think I will be getting the same phone as you.
Im on Orange just now and when my contract is up will switch over to EE for the 4G, so will probably just flash the EE Firmware whenever the phone arrives.
Cheers
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I got mine for simply electronics and its called Dual carrier having the HK rom, which by the way it is still the 4.1.1
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johnnyblaze1977 said:
@big-nose.
Can I ask, did you get the phone from Simply Electronics? Im currently waiting on mine arriving and since I ordered it have found out that their main warehouse is in HK, so I think I will be getting the same phone as you.
Im on Orange just now and when my contract is up will switch over to EE for the 4G, so will probably just flash the EE Firmware whenever the phone arrives.
Cheers
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I got mine from Panamoz...but all the Hong Kong dealers probably obtain the phones via the same routes.
Have to say I'm impressed with Panamoz so far, ordered at 2130hrs on Sunday evening and delivered to me in the UK on Wednesday. The real test will be if I have to use the warranty...but obviously I'm hoping that day never comes anyway!
My only comments are:
1. Mine was packaged for the French market e.g. the mains charger is for French sockets, the instructions are in French etc. (Panamoz did put a free mains adaptor in the package to deal with the charger) Wonder if any other options besides French were available, would have been nice to know this up-front.
2. The initial screens were in Chinese and if you're not familiar with Android you might not know that the first thing it asks on initial boot is what language you want to work in...I think it'd be handy if Panamoz provided a piece of paper with brief instructions and a screenshot explaining how to switch the language, otherwise some people might panic!
Thanks for the feedback.
I have actually just cancelled my order. 2 Weeks after placing the order it still hadnt been dispatched, and I was wanting it for this weekend. I'll just pop down to the local Orange shop and buy it there, its only £50 dearer so i can handle that ok.
Still using my trusty S1 just now but looking forward to the upgrade.
Cheers

[Q] T-Mobile WiFi Calling and Tethering on HTC One Developer Edition

Hey guys,
If this has been answered previously, then please forgive me, but I wasn't finding anything definitive in the related threads. I've got an unlocked Developer Edition that I plan on using on T-Mobile. I really wanted the extra space and I *believe* San Diego is refarmed and so should work reasonably well (although if I get Edge speeds I'm gonna be bummed).
Anywho, has anyone figured out whether there is:
1) any way to get WiFi calling working? Not positive I'll need but wondering if I need to flash a T-Mobile modem or rom to get that to work on the DE version
2) if tethering will work if my plan supports it (it does - I've done it on my T-Mobile Galaxy Note II)
3) does flashing one's modem cause the phone to show as "tampered" or "modified"? My preference would be NOT to add the bloat unless I'm going to lose out on the aforementioned features OR if the signal ends up being dramatically affected.
Lastly, has anyone else had any experience with the Developer Edition on T-Mobile in San Diego? Wondering what to expect.
Thanks in advance for any and all help!
K-
I have the Dev One on T-Mo in Az and it's awesome. I've seen up to 24mbps on LTE and as little as 12mbps on LTE here.
I'll try tethering but I don't see why it would be an issue. My rooted Sensation tethered just fine and with a non-carrier phone we should still be more than able to do so.
Not sure about WiFi calling as I never used it. With unlimited minutes and decent reception at home it never crossed my mind to try it.
WiFi calling does work you just need to flash a ROM that has it. It has been implemented in International ROMs so you don't have to stick to just T-Mobile firmware.
Thanks for the answers, guys. Guess I stupidly figured the Developer Edition WAS the International version rom already - no? Guessing not by your phrasing.
Guess my problem when it arrives on Thursday (fingers crossed) will be that I'm not certain whether I can completely revert back to stock after flashing should I need to return it. Will do a little more research. Have flashed the hell out of my Note II but I thought I'd read that all methods on the One end up with "Tampered" being displayed, which I'm sure would cause HTC to NOT take it back, even within the 30 days.
Then it's just a question of how good or bad the data speeds end up being in San Diego.
Thanks again for the help.
K-

SM-n920P more than 4g after upgrade (FR)

Hello to the community that I would like to thank for having existed for so many years!
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I explain my problem,
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I buy on Cdiscount a Note 5 N920P that I dreamed so long ago, at the reception everything was perfect. Android 5.1.1 compatible 4G saw that when I put my sim card I had the logo "4G" displayed.
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Old owner of a note 3, I wanted to change the rom on my note 5 by a custom rom to have root access and much more ...
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I have downloaded TWRP for my note 5 found on various forums, I have download a rom N920p (sprint) for my note 5 under Android 6.0.1
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I had no network, so I flashed the version of a modem above the one I had basic, and there the network was finally displayed.
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But only the H + logo was displayed. Then there everything started, csc, modem, I spent 5 days more than 10 hours on a lot of forum to recover my 4G and I realized that I should never have done all these manipulations ...
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I wanted to reflash the original rom "OI6" out via odin was a failure every time, even after a full wipe ...
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Today I am blocked on a modem which I think blocks the 20 or different band for the 4G (at least I think it comes from there) I come to ask you for a helping hand, I come to you because you had Always been at the top when it came to answer seriously.
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My main question would be: Can I get the modem compatible with the 4G in france or the original rom that there was on my note 5 upon receipt of it?
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I do not know what to do I am in total despair ... Thank you for your future answer!
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Best regards, Zebuloup (PS : sorry for google traductor im french)
origine38 said:
Hello to the community that I would like to thank for having existed for so many years!
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So long as you are not going to an older bootloader Samsung smart switch should help you. If smart switch says your phone is not compatible use this short guide. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65031919&postcount=270
I think the P version is a carrier version so it may not work, I do not know for sure though.
4G n920
CodeNameRedNeck said:
So long as you are not going to an older bootloader Samsung smart switch should help you. If smart switch says your phone is not compatible use this short guide. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65031919&postcount=270
I think the P version is a carrier version so it may not work, I do not know for sure though.
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is no good for N920P "S/N is no good"
i give modem or csc XEF or csc compatible for 4G (band 20 etc..) thx !
origine38 said:
is no good for N920P "S/N is no good"
i give modem or csc XEF or csc compatible for 4G (band 20 etc..) thx !
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Listen to me carefully, you were already cheated by your shop keeper / sales person... There is no such thing that if you update your phone software you will lose 4G support or blah blah... its android not IOS... what happened actually is that Sprint version of our phone is not compatible with our LTE networks it only works on band 20 which is available in US but in ordr to sale phone, shopkeepers manipulates software and falsely shows 3G to 4G network icon.. it is done through changing some xml files (Some developer can explain well) ... but in reality your device was not 4G supported in first place.... now you cant go back and you are stuck on 3G network only.... if you want 4G , your only option is to sale this phone and buy F or I model of note 5...
Source of this Story ??
Myself..!!
4G support
n70shan said:
Listen to me carefully, you were already cheated by your shop keeper / sales person... There is no such thing that if you update your phone software you will lose 4G support or blah blah... its not IOS... what happened actually is that Sprint version of our phone is not compatible with our LTE networks it only works on band 20 which is available in US but in ordr to sale phone, shopkeepers manipulates software and falsely shows 3G to 4G network icon.. it is done through changing some xml files (Some developer can explain well) ... but in reality your device was not 4G supported in first place.... now you cant go back and you are stuck on 3G network only.... if you want 4G , your only option is to sale this phone and buy F or I model of note 5...
Source of this Story ??
Myself..!!
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Hello and thank you for your answer,
Sure enough I had the 4G before on my phone on the original rom when I received it. In town I had a test of flow, and I was about 70 in mega download, there I hardly surpass the 12 mega.
I think the tapes were well unlocked for France, and that it was not a fake icon.
I found the way to deliver a rom stock on my phone, I will send it in repair and basta!
Thank you for your help !

SM-G973F/DS in USA? Waste of time?

Long time lurker, first time poster here. First of all, a massive THANK YOU to everyone here. You guys and gals are Awesome! <3
So, I bought a Samsung S10 (SM-G973F/DS) on Ebay recently and flashed it to Lineage OS 19.1. All was fine until I tried to activate it. We did everything...manually changing the ASP settings, and a bunch of other stuff to try and get this thing to connect to the mobile network. Even placed the SIM card in another phone just to confirm the SIM card was fine, which it was.
Long story short, I think the device was perhaps locked even though the seller claimed it was unlocked. Whatever, I'm over it. I flashed stock back on it and re-locked the boot loader, sent it back. Not worth the aggravation. However, I am questioning if there wasn't something else I could have done?
I was trying to activate the S10 on Mint Mobile USA (a T-Mobile reseller, so GSM) it should have been fine. The default language on the device was German. I don't think that should matter, but maybe it does? Do European phones have problems activating in North America?
My question is: If I decide to get another S10 (SM-G973F/DS) from the secondary market (if its even worth it at this point, since the SM-G973F/DS is really hard to find), is there anything I can find out from the seller first so I don't end up having to send it back?
Or, should I just give up my dream of having an S10 installed with Lineage OS and it's glorious headphone jack and expandable storage forever? If so, are there any worthy alternatives to the S10 worth considering, given my affinity for headphone jacks and expandable storage?
Hello PhonePerfection, all a novel why you speak S10 G973F / DS in the United States.
Already your model S10 G973F/DS exynos 5G or the first 4G model so if these this Europe chip model, if now installed Samsung phone info look at who is scoring at worst take screenshots.
I don't understand your question United States, locked unlocked the seller.
You buy in the back market refurbished and unlocked telephone all operator therefore for sim card, the concern these the chip to install network either US or ASIA controls your model if these good SM-G973F/DS and not SM-G973U or G973U1.
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I think what @meric57 is trying to say is that your phone doesn't have the right chips to communicate on the frequencies in the USA. It's made for other markets and other frequencies... so it won't work here.
If you use FrequencyCheck you can see what carriers support what frequencies on your specific model: https://www.frequencycheck.com/comp...m-td-lte-512gb-samsung-beyond-1/united-states
Scroll down to the "United States" area and you'll see it doesn't support the frequencies used in the USA (except for GSM 2.5, which is old and dead here in the USA). The US is primarily on LTE... and you can see that phone model doesn't support ANY of the available frequencies.
Bottom line "GSM" doesn't tell you enough. You have an incomatible phone model for the USA market. No SIM card will fix that.
Note, in SOME cases, you can activate other frequencies by loading different ROMs into the phone. My old LG V30 did this, for example. I have heard that you can run some Exynos phones here in the USA, but I don't know the details to help. FrequencyCheck may help you figure that out. Be sure the look for the complete model number, not just "Galaxy S10" or something... the naming is worthless for figuring this out.
schwinn8 said:
I think what @meric57 is trying to say is that your phone doesn't have the right chips to communicate on the frequencies in the USA. It's made for other markets and other frequencies... so it won't work here.
If you use FrequencyCheck you can see what carriers support what frequencies on your specific model: https://www.frequencycheck.com/compsomethingatibility/RdEkS7k/samsung-sm-g973f-ds-galaxy-s10-global-dual-sim-td-lte-512gb-samsung-beyond-1/united-states
Scroll down to the "United States" area and you'll see it doesn't support the frequencies used in the USA (except for GSM 2.5, which is old and dead here in the USA). The US is primarily on LTE... and you can see that phone model doesn't support ANY of the available frequencies.
Bottom line "GSM" doesn't tell you enough. You have an incomatible phone model for the USA market. No SIM card will fix that.
Note, in SOME cases, you can activate other frequencies by loading different ROMs into the phone. My old LG V30 did this, for example. I have heard that you can run some Exynos phones here in the USA, but I don't know the details to help. FrequencyCheck may help you figure that out. Be sure the look for the complete model number, not just "Galaxy S10" or something... the naming is worthless for figuring this out.
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schwinn8 said:
I think what @meric57 is trying to say is that your phone doesn't have the right chips to communicate on the frequencies in the USA. It's made for other markets and other frequencies... so it won't work here.
If you use FrequencyCheck you can see what carriers support what frequencies on your specific model: https://www.frequencycheck.com/comp...m-td-lte-512gb-samsung-beyond-1/united-states
Scroll down to the "United States" area and you'll see it doesn't support the frequencies used in the USA (except for GSM 2.5, which is old and dead here in the USA). The US is primarily on LTE... and you can see that phone model doesn't support ANY of the available frequencies.
Bottom line "GSM" doesn't tell you enough. You have an incomatible phone model for the USA market. No SIM card will fix that.
Note, in SOME cases, you can activate other frequencies by loading different ROMs into the phone. My old LG V30 did this, for example. I have heard that you can run some Exynos phones here in the USA, but I don't know the details to help. FrequencyCheck may help you figure that out. Be sure the look for the complete model number, not just "Galaxy S10" or something... the naming is worthless for figuring this out.
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Hey, this is great info. Good to know. It looks like that S10 could only communicate on 1 of 8 bands used by Mint/T-Mobile. That 1 usable band appears to have been deprecated by T-Mobile as it is. I think that explains it perfectly. Thank You!
You're welcome.
Yeah, frequencies/bands are very important to watch, particularly if you're buying out of market devices. You have to know model numbers and carriers to be sure of anything, and unfortunately this info is relatively hidden.
schwinn8 said:
You're welcome.
Yeah, frequencies/bands are very important to watch, particularly if you're buying out of market devices. You have to know model numbers and carriers to be sure of anything, and unfortunately this info is relatively hidden.
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The CSC on that device was DBT (Germany). I had to find that out in order to put the correct stock OS back on there.
Makes me wonder if the ebay seller even knows this. They appear to specialize in mobile phones with tens of thousands of transactions, so I would hope they've encountered this situation before. They were more than happy to accept a return on the device. Sent me a prepaid shipping label immediately.
Back to the CSC... Let's say I look for another S10 (SM-G973F/DS) but I ask what the CSC is for that device. Are there any regions outside the lower 48 states with reasonably good chances of it working? I suppose I would need to study the mobile frequency website for the answer to that.
I did some quick searching, and supposedly there are websites that say the 973F/DS will work on MM (mint mobile)... but they don't detail how. For example: https://de-googled.com/blogs/news/a-word-on-network-compatibility-of-our-degoogled-phones
and https://www.ebay.com/p/15030406771 (in the description).
So, maybe it is possible? I don't know, so maybe someone else can chime in.
Personally, I stuck with U-version phones and gave up rooting/romming. It's just getting too hard to find phones that offer this, so I figured I'd just adapt back to a stock ROM, since choices are limited. I had done a bunch of that in the past, but I found that stock roms (today) are pretty good... and allow enough customization that made root/rom unnecessary... for me. My current is an SM-G975U1 (unlocked, USA, Snapdragon S10+) on Total Wireless (VZ MVNO)... it works great and I don't miss root/rom at all.
Rumor is that the Galaxy S23 will only be offered as Snapdragon, so maybe that will open up more options... but I doubt it. Samsung loves it's Knox system, and will likely lock down the phone even more with every generation.
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I did some quick searching, and supposedly there are websites that say the 973F/DS will work on MM (mint mobile)... but they don't detail how. For example: https://de-googled.com/blogs/news/a-word-on-network-compatibility-of-our-degoogled-phones
and https://www.ebay.com/p/15030406771 (in the description).
So, maybe it is possible? I don't know, so maybe someone else can chime in.
Personally, I stuck with U-version phones and gave up rooting/romming. It's just getting too hard to find phones that offer this, so I figured I'd just adapt back to a stock ROM, since choices are limited. I had done a bunch of that in the past, but I found that stock roms (today) are pretty good... and allow enough customization that made root/rom unnecessary... for me. My current is an SM-G975U1 (unlocked, USA, Snapdragon S10+) on Total Wireless (VZ MVNO)... it works great and I don't miss root/rom at all.
Rumor is that the Galaxy S23 will only be offered as Snapdragon, so maybe that will open up more options... but I doubt it. Samsung loves it's Knox system, and will likely lock down the phone even more with every generation.
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Thanks for the link. I think I may try for an S10 again if the seller can tell me what the CSC is. That page on De-googled.com affirms that American devices are more restrictive than their European counterparts.
It just doesn't make any sense to me personally to use a device with an open source OS that has loads of telemetry, spyware, bloat, etc. Which is a contradiction that I am not comfortable with. It's like installing a Linux distro that comes bundled with Facebook.
To me, being proactive about privacy is the equivalent to standing up for yourself in the real world. Sure, you can use a stock ROM and there is nothing wrong with that. It's having the freedom to choose which is most important. So long as that choice is available, I will happily go that route.
I like the added bonus of an Android device that seems faster with a longer lasting battery as well. I mean, I paid for this device. I should have the right to decide what apps are running on it.
No argument there... I agree with why we should be allowed to root/rom. Unfortunately, the carriers pull the strings in the USA (business over people) so we are losing options. Frankly, it pisses me off that they can still prevent phones from connecting to their network just because the IMEI doesn't match (even if the software is correct). In the end, if the device CAN work on the network, the carrier should have no say in allowing/disallowing it on the network. They like to claim that a "bad" device could "hurt" the network, but if that happens, they can lock out that phone and figure it out. I doubt that's even ever happened, but whatever. (They prevented me from using my already-working V30 US998 phone on the network, even though it ran as VS996 with no issues for years... they only later saw the IMEI wasn't "theirs" (original SIM card failed) so they prevented me from re-registering it. So stupid.)
Good luck, and let us know if you figure it out... I'm always curious to learn!
yes, most japan and europe phones do not have the correct radios channels in them for 4g and 5g. i ran into this same problem with my xperia phones that i bought overseas. this is a common problem that can happen.
The S10 and all it's variants is a world compatible GSM phone. So yes, the F variant should work with most GSM carriers and resellers in N. America.
There are various websites that will tell you what frequencies and carriers any particular model will work with if you do a search. Like this one.
WillMyPhoneWork.net - Check if your phone works on a network
Check 2G, 3G, and 4G LTE Network Frequency Compatibility for a Smartphone, Tablet, and Mobile Device in any Country and Mobile Network Carrier
willmyphonework.net
According to that site the SM-G973F/DS supports all 2G, 3G, and 4G frequencies used by Mint.

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