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I currently have the LG G3 and after seeing the note 4 in person I want one . I guess my main question is should I hold off or do you guys think that its worth it to move on from the G3. I was a note 3 user and loved the phone, but Samsung really pissed me off with the whole Knox garbage that they implemented. In advance I am sorry if this thread is out of place, I just wanted some feedback from current owners.
huh? why do you even care about knox?
Came from a g3 and the note is better
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Burned my knox fuse less than 24 hours in. Who cares?
twe90kid said:
huh? why do you even care about knox?
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Well in the event that I need my phone serviced, my concern is that I will be denied warranty by either T-mobile or Samsung. I honesty considered this a shifty move to use this as a reason to deny warranty claims....I might be wrong because I never have had to send my note 3 in for warranty purposes anyway. I miss how easy it was to connect to my samsung smart tv with the note 3, with the lg g3 it never streams well.
I also came from a G3. Had 2 of them, gave my wife one and sold mine on Craigslist and used the money to get the Note 4 which I'm using now. The Note 4 is a better device. The Snapdragon 805 handles the 2K display better and the battery is also better. Phone also doesn't heat up as much as the G3. The display being LED is also better then the LCD in my opinion with colors popping or u can dim the colors down in display settings.
If your able to obtain a Note 4 I say go for it. The Note 4 is a better device and will have more Development behind it vs the G3.
If you can't upgrade your not missing much.
In my opinion the Note 4 / Nexus 6 / G3 are the best devices currently on the market. Note 4 having an edge with the LED display and Stylus.
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I also came from a G3. Had 2 of them, gave my wife one and sold mine on Craigslist and used the money to get the Note 4 which I'm using now. The Note 4 is a better device. The Snapdragon 805 handles the 2K display better and the battery is also better. Phone also doesn't heat up as much as the G3. The display being LED is also better then the LCD in my opinion with colors popping or u can dim the colors down in display settings.
If your able to obtain a Note 4 I say go for it. The Note 4 is a better device and will have more Development behind it vs the G3.
If you can't upgrade your not missing much.
In my opinion the Note 4 / Nexus 6 / G3 are the best devices currently on the market. Note 4 having an edge with the LED display and Stylus.
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I am on the old jump plan and I have one upgrade left for the year so I am able to upgrade. You mentioned the note 4 doesn't heat up as much as the G3, that was one of my concerns and thanks for clearing that up. Using the phone for the torque app or navigation really fires up the g3, almost too hot. How loaded with bloat is touchwiz this time around?
I have the Note 4 and it is a great phone. It has replaced my OnePlus One as my main phone. The Note 4 is definitely better than the One, but only marginally. It isn't 450.00 better. Not for my usage at least.
its crazy bright! i dimmed it to like 5% and its still pretty bright lol
The charge is quite fast compared to the N3
Ive played around with the G3 and i6+, Note4 has better build quality imo although it doesnt look that way in videos. you have to hold it to believe it.
Metal bezel makes it a little slippery but the leather back, which feels a lot better than N3, helps offset it.
N4 wouldve been the perfect phone if the "Samsung" logo in the front is removed, quite distracting
I just upgraded from Galaxy S4 and I love it! I rooted day 1 and have no regrets.
Erazo1986 said:
Well in the event that I need my phone serviced, my concern is that I will be denied warranty by either T-mobile or Samsung. I honesty considered this a shifty move to use this as a reason to deny warranty claims....I might be wrong because I never have had to send my note 3 in for warranty purposes anyway. I miss how easy it was to connect to my samsung smart tv with the note 3, with the lg g3 it never streams well.
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See this thread I made back in the day when note 3 came out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561241
also this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506287
twe90kid said:
See this thread I made back in the day when note 3 came out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561241
also this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506287
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T-mobile uses experian for warranties and jump related trades, didn't they recently implement a policy to no longer accept any device with a tampered flag,rooted,etc for warranty and or jump purposes. This implementation also includes devices with tripped knox flags. I'm not trying to be a bummer or anything I just try to think ahead.
Erazo1986 said:
T-mobile uses experian for warranties and jump related trades, didn't they recently implement a policy to no longer accept any device with a tampered flag,rooted,etc for warranty and or jump purposes. This implementation also includes devices with tripped knox flags. I'm not trying to be a bummer or anything I just try to think ahead.
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TMOBILE uses asurion for warranty claims and both have no care about Knox or root. They both send out replacement as they are. They flash fresh software and ship it. It does not matter for anyone but Samsung.
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TMOBILE uses asurion for warranty claims and both have no care about Knox or root. They both send out replacement as they are. They flash fresh software and ship it. It does not matter for anyone but Samsung.
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so samsung does care if knox got tripped? just wanna make sure since i don't use tmobile warranty. so if anything were to happen, i'll have to ship it back to samsung for repairs.
i'm not worry bout bricking my phone with root. just don't wanna be burn by hardware issues unrelated to root 1 month later if samsung rejects warranty.
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so samsung does care if knox got tripped? just wanna make sure since i don't use tmobile warranty. so if anything were to happen, i'll have to ship it back to samsung for repairs.
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Samsung would care. But why use them when t mobile takes care of you. Plus sending phone back to Samsung is like a 2 week progress .
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| came from the G3 as well. while the G3 was a nice phone I think the note 4 beats it. The Screen is better, battery life trumps the G3, and personally I like how the note 4 feels in the hand. One thing l do like more on the G3 is how they were able to fit the screen in such a small body.
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so samsung does care if knox got tripped? just wanna make sure since i don't use tmobile warranty. so if anything were to happen, i'll have to ship it back to samsung for repairs.
i'm not worry bout bricking my phone with root. just don't wanna be burn by hardware issues unrelated to root 1 month later if samsung rejects warranty.
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Technically Tmobile can cover warranty for Samsung devices instead of you having to send it to Samsung. I forget what it's called but as long as your device is within the manufacturers 1 year warranty, tmobile can advance replace you one for $20. The defective device goes back to Tmobile. If you don't return the defective phone they charge you I think $200. I did this with my note 3 a few months ago when the screen on/off sensor broke.
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2624
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Samsung would care. But why use them when t mobile takes care of you. Plus sending phone back to Samsung is like a 2 week progress .
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I never bought any warranty/insurance from tmobile. I thought the basic 1 year warranty was that I can return to tmobile within 30 days and the rest of the year will be covered by samsung.
I will definitely be rooting ASAP if tmobile covers the entire year without me buying insurance from them.
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I never bought any warranty/insurance from tmobile. I thought the basic 1 year warranty was that I can return to tmobile within 30 days and the rest of the year will be covered by samsung.
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Ur first year is both but TMOBILE deals with it
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aznmode said:
Technically Tmobile can cover warranty for Samsung devices instead of you having to send it to Samsung. I forget what it's called but as long as your device is within the manufacturers 1 year warranty, tmobile can advance replace you one for $20. The defective device goes back to Tmobile. If you don't return the defective phone they charge you I think $200. I did this with my note 3 a few months ago when the screen on/off sensor broke.
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Ur first year is both but TMOBILE deals with it
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cool, thanks. never knew this. i will definitely be rooting this tomorrow.
I see this phone last week, and was impressed by this MONSTER
first thing I do is taking my credit card and search on net for a good seller, i know this phone is on sale only at 12may
but my biggest surprise was his LTE capabilities.... really ?? a monster spec flagship phone... with only FDD LTE: 1800/2100/2600MHz ???
only 3 categories ?... i want this phone .... but without 800mhz (cat20) it will be a fail in many europe countries ...
and one strange thing too: this phone is announced nothere on the official website... why ?
Most xaomi phones are only meant for China, from what I've heard, and so only support Chinese bands, and nothing else.
It's quite a shame, since I'd happily buy this over the zenfone 2 if it came to the US.
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Most xaomi phones are only meant for China, from what I've heard, and so only support Chinese bands, and nothing else.
It's quite a shame, since I'd happily buy this over the zenfone 2 if it came to the US.
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i want the zenphone 2 too, but after realising than Asus will not release the bootloader, and can't install custom roms, this phone is not for me ...
I pre ordered an Elephone P7000
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i want the zenphone 2 too, but after realising than Asus will not release the bootloader, and can't install custom roms, this phone is not for me ...
I pre ordered an Elephone P7000
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1) Where did you get the idea that Asus won't release the bootloader?
2) The phone has barely been out. Give it some time for ROMs, they don't pop up overnight.
3) The P7k is also somewhat tempting, that's true [emoji14]
Got two of these bad boys coming one for me and one for a friend of mine. I should have them by the end of this month as I got them on a pre-order.
Xiaomi mi note pro 4G LTE can not work in the USA.
I know that it will work in United Kingdom as I checked the bands.
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I know that it will work in United Kingdom as I checked the bands.
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I am in the UK using a Mi Note (not Pro) which supports the same bands and it works like a dream.
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i see this phone last week, and was impressed by this monster
first thing i do is taking my credit card and search on net for a good seller, i know this phone is on sale only at 12may
but my biggest surprise was his lte capabilities.... Really ?? A monster spec flagship phone... With only fdd lte: 1800/2100/2600mhz ???
Only 3 categories ?... I want this phone .... But without 800mhz (cat20) it will be a fail in many europe countries ...
And one strange thing too: This phone is announced nothere on the official website... Why ?
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lets get party started xiao mi note pro
Currently using mi note pro in London workslike a charm on ee. Not
xTremePower said:
I see this phone last week, and was impressed by this MONSTER
first thing I do is taking my credit card and search on net for a good seller, i know this phone is on sale only at 12may
but my biggest surprise was his LTE capabilities.... really ?? a monster spec flagship phone... with only FDD LTE: 1800/2100/2600MHz ???
only 3 categories ?... i want this phone .... but without 800mhz (cat20) it will be a fail in many europe countries ...
and one strange thing too: this phone is announced nothere on the official website... why ?
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Using in Malaysia work like charm as well, don assume with the specs of bandwidth la, buy and use
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Got two of these bad boys coming one for me and one for a friend of mine. I should have them by the end of this month as I got them on a pre-order.
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I have a couple questions
I saw someone with this phone on the train the other day
I want one but have some doubts so can I ask....
1) are all menus etc in english or is some stuff still in chinese
2) what site did your order from and how much did you pay
3) what if something goes wrong with it
4) what is the battery life like
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I have a couple questions
I saw someone with this phone on the train the other day
I want one but have some doubts so can I ask....
1) are all menus etc in english or is some stuff still in chinese
2) what site did your order from and how much did you pay
3) what if something goes wrong with it
4) what is the battery life like
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1. Yes, all menus are in English when the system language is English.
2. Ordered from aliexpress for 640 USD
3. Not sure if you mean with the shipment or if you break the device.
4. Battery life could be better honestly. I can get through the day, however I'm only getting about 4 hours SOT if I'm lucky. I was able to reach that point with my Nexus 5.
RCJ89 said:
I have a couple questions
I saw someone with this phone on the train the other day
I want one but have some doubts so can I ask....
1) are all menus etc in english or is some stuff still in chinese
2) what site did your order from and how much did you pay
3) what if something goes wrong with it
4) what is the battery life like
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1) all is English apart from the app store but I use Google play store instead
2) OPPOMART
3) send it back
4) lasts me all day easily
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1. Yes, all menus are in English when the system language is English.
2. Ordered from aliexpress for 640 USD
3. Not sure if you mean with the shipment or if you break the device.
4. Battery life could be better honestly. I can get through the day, however I'm only getting about 4 hours SOT if I'm lucky. I was able to reach that point with my Nexus 5.
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Thanks for the reply
for point number 3 I meant if there are any warranty issues with the device.
for point number 4 I was looking on GSM arena and they showed the mi note as around 49 hours battery life which doesn't seem that good overall considering the mi note pro has a higher res screen.
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Thanks for the reply
for point number 3 I meant if there are any warranty issues with the device.
for point number 4 I was looking on GSM arena and they showed the mi note as around 49 hours battery life which doesn't seem that good overall considering the mi note pro has a higher res screen.
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Ah ok. Well as far as warranty goes, that would likely have to go through the 3rd party seller. So if they don't offer any type of warranty, you might be out of luck there. But yes the high res screen definitely has an impact on batter life. But it all depends on how you use your device I suppose. I can make it through the day and that is the important part for me
Can I trust buying from Oppomart, I don't really know much about them.
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Can I trust buying from Oppomart, I don't really know much about them.
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I haven't personally bought from Oppomart but a few folk have posted here stating that it was a good experience. I went through aliexpress because I'm more familiar
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I haven't personally bought from Oppomart but a few folk have posted here stating that it was a good experience. I went through aliexpress because I'm more familiar
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Thanks for the reply.
Hello guys, can you please so me a favor and look for dust under the glass of the main camera module?
I was unlucky with the mi 11 u again
First the mi10 and the mi 10 pro afterwards the Poco x3 and now the mi 11 ultra. I'm so freaking unlucky and I hope tradingshenzen will fix this as soon as possible.
Best regards
P.s. everything you can see in the pictures can't be cleaned off - i tried my best and after using a flashlight I was 100% sure it's under the glass.
Damn that's unfortunate, man. I read about some other phone having this issue, I think it was the OnePlus 5 or 6 a few years ago. People had to send back the phone.
My Mi 11 Ultra is arriving tomorrow so I can't check right now, but once it arrives, I will.
I hope you get it sorted. Good luck.
UPDATE: so I did check the cameras for dust and it looks like there's none on my unit. Lucky me.
Looks like defective unit. Exchange it
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Damn that's unfortunate, man. I read about some other phone having this issue, I think it was the OnePlus 5 or 6 a few years ago. People had to send back the phone.
My Mi 11 Ultra is arriving tomorrow so I can't check right now, but once it arrives, I will.
I hope you get it sorted. Good luck.
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Yes I was reading about it too. All models I've listed had the same dust spots. The Poco was the worst tho, it was actually so bad it was affecting the quality of the pictures.
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Looks like defective unit. Exchange it
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I will try my best. I'm from germany and the devices is from tradingshenzen...i don't know how they will react I have read horrible story's about them when it's coming to exchange devices or reparing them ..
I don't have any issues with my Mi 11 Ultra like this, seems definitely like a defective unit. So better to exchange on this.
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Yes I was reading about it too. All models I've listed had the same dust spots. The Poco was the worst tho, it was actually so bad it was affecting the quality of the pictures.
I will try my best. I'm from germany and the devices is from tradingshenzen...i don't know how they will react I have read horrible story's about them when it's coming to exchange devices or reparing them ..
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If u paid by PayPal u have 30 days for exchange or return
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If u paid by PayPal u have 30 days for exchange or return
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From which date? From the date I bought it or from the point I got it? I bought it on the 03.04 already but I got it almost 4 weeks later and where did you get your information from? I can't find any on the website
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Yes I was reading about it too. All models I've listed had the same dust spots. The Poco was the worst tho, it was actually so bad it was affecting the quality of the pictures.
I will try my best. I'm from germany and the devices is from tradingshenzen...i don't know how they will react I have read horrible story's about them when it's coming to exchange devices or reparing them ..
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That's bull****. I have ordered there a few times and also hadn't issues with refund or repairing. (auch from Germany)
Kollachi said:
That's bull****. I have ordered there a few times and also hadn't issues with refund or repairing. (auch from Germany)
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Good to know! Thanks
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I don't have any issues with my Mi 11 Ultra like this, seems definitely like a defective unit. So better to exchange on this.
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Okay, I already opened a support ticket in TS. I will keep you guys up to date^^
Son of a biscuit stick. I was wondering what the odds were that someone had literal dust in their camera module. I went ahead and checked my Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra... I have dust in mine too. Or rather one big spec of dust. I cleaned the outside surface with no avail. I just got my unit last Friday too. I've reached out to WondaMobile, to see what can be done. Have you guys ever encountered any issues with Wonda? This is my first purchase from them and I have no idea what's in store for me.
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Son of a biscuit stick. I was wondering what the odds were that someone had literal dust in their camera module. I went ahead and checked my Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra... I have dust in mine too. Or rather one big spec of dust. I cleaned the outside surface with no avail. I just got my unit last Friday too. I've reached out to WondaMobile, to see what can be done. Have you guys ever encountered any issues with Wonda? This is my first purchase from them and I have no idea what's in store for me.
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Update! I sent WondaMobile an email and they responded extremely fast. They asked me to send it back, so they could check the device. If it is factory faulty, not man made damages. They have agreed to refund me. They also stated that device is out of stock atm, so a replacement was not guaranteed. However, I could submit it for a warranty claim and see if they can get me a replacement that way instead, if it's deemed a man made damage.
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Son of a biscuit stick. I was wondering what the odds were that someone had literal dust in their camera module. I went ahead and checked my Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra... I have dust in mine too. Or rather one big spec of dust. I cleaned the outside surface with no avail. I just got my unit last Friday too. I've reached out to WondaMobile, to see what can be done. Have you guys ever encountered any issues with Wonda? This is my first purchase from them and I have no idea what's in store for me.
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Hey! Thx for your reply. Again: I'm responding quite late I'm not getting any notifications. Well I need to give it back too and they will look for dust. Thing is it's not really big -, I'm afraid they telling me it's fine but I don't think having any kind of dust anywhere is "Fine" for a 1100€ flagship. Thx for you post tho, it could help me out to get some pressure on them if needed. I will play my joker PayPal card too if it's nesescary.
No dust is "normal" for ANY phone. I checked mine and it's absolutely perfect.
Most likely a faulty batch
Good luck and keep us posted on the developement !
Cheers !
You guys are making me afraid to check mine lol
I'm debating on sending the unit back. Shipment is at least $65 USD and then god knows how long the wait will be. There is no guarantee that they will replace the unit. I could get a refund, but it'll take a couple of weeks to get it (with shipment and processing). I personally feel like Wondamobile will refund me, but it's just a hassle.
The spec of dust is on my telephoto, which I don't use anyways. It doesn't really affect me much. It's easier for me to just open up the device, clean the lense and reseal it. The dust is not inside the camera, but right on the glass layer above it. Doing so would affect the IP68 rating, since it probably won't have the same water resistance. I don't really put my phone in such environments. So other than a small inconvenience, it's not too bad.
However, I do agree that buying a phone with dust is not acceptable. Especially for the hefty price tag. A consumer should not be required to fix a manufacturing issue. But after evaluating my options, it's easier and cheaper for me to just fix the issue myself. Granted that I enjoy tinkering with tech and I have some general experience taking electronics apart.
But yeah, I would say ship it back. If the issue is indeed a manufacturing issue and there is no resolution/ they refuse to address the issue, totally reach out to your bank or PayPal to get that addressed. I hate doing charge backs, but sometimes they are needed. Especially when if it's a issue you had no control over it.
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I'm debating on sending the unit back. Shipment is at least $65 USD and then god knows how long the wait will be. There is no guarantee that they will replace the unit. I could get a refund, but it'll take a couple of weeks to get it (with shipment and processing). I personally feel like Wondamobile will refund me, but it's just a hassle.
The spec of dust is on my telephoto, which I don't use anyways. It doesn't really affect me much. It's easier for me to just open up the device, clean the lense and reseal it. The dust is not inside the camera, but right on the glass layer above it. Doing so would affect the IP68 rating, since it probably won't have the same water resistance. I don't really put my phone in such environments. So other than a small inconvenience, it's not too bad.
However, I do agree that buying a phone with dust is not acceptable. Especially for the hefty price tag. A consumer should not be required to fix a manufacturing issue. But after evaluating my options, it's easier and cheaper for me to just fix the issue myself. Granted that I enjoy tinkering with tech and I have some general experience taking electronics apart.
But yeah, I would say ship it back. If the issue is indeed a manufacturing issue and there is no resolution/ they refuse to address the issue, totally reach out to your bank or PayPal to get that addressed. I hate doing charge backs, but sometimes they are needed. Especially when if it's a issue you had no control over it.
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I couldn't say it any better although I would strongly advice you to ship it back. Remember you got a ceramic back - it's way harder to open without breaking it. I'm working at a German mobile Refurbisher and im dealing with these kinds of things every day but I wouldn't do that on a new device which costs around 1000+€. Isn't there any way for them to exchange it with another unit maybe from another costumer who gave back the mobile? They can't repair it anyway. This device is most likely to be sold in a few years to Refurbishers like I am one. I wrote with a guy from tradingshenzen and he told me that he will either give my money back after recieving the device or swap it against a new one if possible from another costumer who gave it back and which isn't opend up. I hate dealing with give backs too it's super annoying to me...i waited 6 weeks for my device just to wait a few weeks more now too although I'm really glad that I got the possibility to send it back to a German service point.
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I couldn't say it any better although I would strongly advice you to ship it back. Remember you got a ceramic back - it's way harder to open without breaking it. I'm working at a German mobile Refurbisher and im dealing with these kinds of things every day but I wouldn't do that on a new device which costs around 1000+€. Isn't there any way for them to exchange it with another unit maybe from another costumer who gave back the mobile? They can't repair it anyway. This device is most likely to be sold in a few years to Refurbishers like I am one. I wrote with a guy from tradingshenzen and he told me that he will either give my money back after recieving the device or swap it against a new one if possible from another costumer who gave it back and which isn't opend up. I hate dealing with give backs too it's super annoying to me...i waited 6 weeks for my device just to wait a few weeks more now too although I'm really glad that I got the possibility to send it back to a German service point.
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Thanks for your feedback. I'm confident that I can get it opened and sealed up. There is always a risk though and It's never the same afterwards, compared to a new factory sealed device. I still have some time to reevaluate the situation. I'll think it over today and decide tomorrow morning.
What I'm not looking forward to is the wait and the loss of an additional $65 for shipment. I knew that ordering a phone internationally was a risk, and that's just one of the downsides.
Wondamobile support told me that they did not have any global units in stock, and that they didn't know when they would come back in stock either. So a replacement was not something they could do. They stated that they could conduct a warranty claim and see if Xiaomi can get that replaced, if I wanted to go that route. The other option would be to refund the device of course. Honestly, if I do ship it back I'll just get it refunded and wait for the device to be more wildly available.
All I know is if I get my $1300 back, I'll be extremely hesitant to purchase any phone internationally again. I'll see if maybe there is a more local seller. Only time will tell.
Thanks again. I'll keep you posted on what I decided tomorrow morning, but now I am aiming more towards the refund. Might even buy the white version in the future with the refund.
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Thanks for your feedback. I'm confident that I can get it opened and sealed up. There is always a risk though and It's never the same afterwards, compared to a new factory sealed device. I still have some time to reevaluate the situation. I'll think it over today and decide tomorrow morning.
What I'm not looking forward to is the wait and the loss of an additional $65 for shipment. I knew that ordering a phone internationally was a risk, and that's just one of the downsides.
Wondamobile support told me that they did not have any global units in stock, and that they didn't know when they would come back in stock either. So a replacement was not something they could do. They stated that they could conduct a warranty claim and see if Xiaomi can get that replaced, if I wanted to go that route. The other option would be to refund the device of course. Honestly, if I do ship it back I'll just get it refunded and wait for the device to be more wildly available.
All I know is if I get my $1300 back, I'll be extremely hesitant to purchase any phone internationally again. I'll see if maybe there is a more local seller. Only time will tell.
Thanks again. I'll keep you posted on what I decided tomorrow morning, but now I am aiming more towards the refund. Might even buy the white version in the future with the refund.
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The only good news is, they get cheaper with time... But this is really crappy build quality from Xiaomi and further proves they are not really ready to compete on the world flagship stage with Samsung and Apple etc
Some people paid ~$1500 for devices with manufacturing dust in the camera lenses which is just unacceptable imo
i had a look at mine and can't see anything but I haven't used a magnifying glass and a torch yet because I have no return option anyway since I got mine from the first batch released in China
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The only good news is, they get cheaper with time... But this is really crappy build quality from Xiaomi and further proves they are not really ready to compete on the world flagship stage with Samsung and Apple etc
Some people paid ~$1500 for devices with manufacturing dust in the camera lenses which is just unacceptable imo
i had a look at mine and can't see anything but I haven't used a magnifying glass and a torch yet because I have no return option anyway since I got mine from the first batch released in China
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Agreed, they should be putting in more measures to ensure quality is met before they ship the devices out.
This has been my first Xiaomi phone, and now I'm hesitant to try getting a new Xiaomi phone in the future. It could have just been bad luck on my side, but I'm certain more customers are bound to have the same dust issue, hence why this post is even a thing.
I really wanted to give Xiaomi the benefit of the doubt with the Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra, but you are correct. They're just not on the same level as Samsung and Apple yet. I want to be optimistic, but for now I'll make sure to wait several months before commiting to a new Xiaomi phone. Just so I can know all the possible quirks and issues. Only then can I really decide if it's worth it.
So day 2 of ownership of the s21U and the earpiece crackles . What a POS. I just googled and it's seem like a common fault. Bye bye Samsung.
Sorry to hear that. My thoughts are this phone is a dud, add another complaint to the litany of fails.
Return for a full refund... hope you still have your 20U.
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So day 2 of ownership of the s21U and the earpiece crackles . What a POS. I just googled and it's seem like a common fault. Bye bye Samsung.
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Hey go to whoever sold it to you and keep exchanging earpiece until it hurts them enough to fix the problem or exchange for another version of equal value that's reliable, if they refuse take it to Samsung store and bother them, if that fails then sue store for selling faulty products
You work hard for your money don't let billion dollars industries waste your hard earned money
Just googled it. And it seems to be a common occurrence
It's a shame really device really felt good in the hand. And screen was a slight improvement quality wise. Not size wise. Battery was great also. Lost my faith.
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So day 2 of ownership of the s21U and the earpiece crackles . What a POS. I just googled and it's seem like a common fault. Bye bye Samsung.
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Why not try a different earpiece? Ditching a very expensive device for a faulty earpiece seems excessive. The retailer won't replace the phone, likely only the earpiece.
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Why not try a different earpiece? Ditching a very expensive device for a faulty earpiece seems excessive. The retailer won't replace the phone, likely only the earpiece.
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Dealer refunded me. You know what an earpiece is in relation to a mobile phone right ?
PS hope you're keeping well buddy.
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Dealer refunded me. You know what an earpiece is in relation to a mobile phone right ?
PS hope you're keeping well buddy.
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An earpiece normally refers to an earbud or earphones, not the speaker. Glad You’ve resolved it, so which device are you leaning towards?
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Glad you've resolved it, so which device are you leaning towards?
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I'm using the N20U again. Considered a fold3 but I know I wouldn't be happy with it after the novelty factor wears off. Especially with the it having just 4400mah battery and a 120hz display.
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Sorry to hear that. My thoughts are this phone is a dud, add another complaint to the litany of fails.
Return for a full refund... hope you still have your 20U.
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I got lucky. The store still had my note 20 ultra.
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I got lucky. The store still had my note 20 ultra.
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Lol, I rather be lucky than good...
Limey you are being a little too extreme bruh... So what if you got a defective piece? You can exchange it and get a properly working one.
I have been on this forum of over 5 months and this is the 1st time I hear of someone having a crackling earpiece!
Literally every single phone model ever released on the market has defective pieces here and there. It is just how it works to some extent.
No need to cry out bcoz the one you got has an issue and you can just get another.
The phone is still to this moment the best on the market. Period.
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Limey you are being a little too extreme bruh... So what if you got a defective piece? You can exchange it and get a properly working one.
I have been on this forum of over 5 months and this is the 1st time I hear of someone having a crackling earpiece!
Literally every single phone model ever released on the market has defective pieces here and there. It is just how it works to some extent.
No need to cry out bcoz the one you got has an issue and you can just get another.
The phone is still to this moment the best on the market. Period.
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I'd tend to agree but my confidence is slightly squashed since reading that the top speaker has issues vis Google an d Samsung forums and even YouTube videos. Hence why I decided not to ask for a replacement at the time.
Last time I owned a phone that had a faulty earpiece speaker was in the 90s , same issue. Crackle and popping when hearing people on a call.
"My thoughts are this phone is a dud"
So if the S21 is a dud which Galaxy is superior, your S10 or a Note 20? You can prefer one model over another but in just about every review it's rated as the best device on the market, far from a dud.
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"My thoughts are this phone is a dud"
So if the S21 is a dud which Galaxy is superior, your S10 or a Note 20? You can prefer one model over another but in just about every review it's rated as the best device on the market, far from a dud.
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Yeah just like all the glowing Fold reviews from previous years were
Huh, funny how duds get such glowing reviews.
The new Folds are also having issues, too soon to know how badly botched these will be.
No native spen, no SD card slot.
The worst of all of it are it's ugly rounded display corners though. I thought we were over the lame CRT look?
The S21U has a substantially brighter display though with a likely a much shorter lifespan if not kept in check. Seems Samsung wanted to outshine the competition regardless of the potential lifespan hit. It does seem to have better battery life.
At that flagship price point... what a dog.
A dismal year for Samsung is shaping up and most of it is their own doing.
The mess that is Android 11, the CCP virus hysteria and the semiconductor shortages are compounding Samsung's poor design and quality control fails.
Just close your eyes and walk away... Samsung ain't in the house.
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Yeah just like all the glowing Fold reviews from previous years were
Huh, funny how duds get such glowing reviews.
The new Folds are also having issues, too soon to know how badly botched these will be.
No native spen, no SD card slot.
The worst of all of it are it's ugly rounded display corners though. I thought we were over the lame CRT look?
The S21U has a substantially brighter display though with a likely a much shorter lifespan if not kept in check. Seems Samsung wanted to outshine the competition regardless of the potential lifespan hit. It does seem to have better battery life.
At that flagship price point... what a dog.
A dismal year for Samsung is shaping up and most of it is their own doing.
The mess that is Android 11, the CCP virus hysteria and the semiconductor shortages are compounding Samsung's poor design and quality control fails.
Just close your eyes and walk away... Samsung ain't in the house.
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The only point you raised which I agree with is no MicroSD. Very few care for an S-Pen even when it's included. Rounded corners are a preference for many users due to appearance and functionality including myself. Android 11 was created by Google not Samsung and which device manufacturer offers superior build quality? For the amount of smartphones Samsung produces it has a comparatively low number of defects across all of it's different assembly facilities. It also diminishes your opinion since you don't own or use an S21 on a daily basis, only responding to what you read. Not a very objective analysis.
Just an update , I bought another one. All good. No earpiece buzzing rattling.
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Just an update , I bought another one. All good. No earpiece buzzing rattling.
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Wow! You must really like this phone
You're the first person I know of, who's had three S21 Ultras
Man i really hope you got a good piece this time around. Best of luck!
And congratulations
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Wow! You must really like this phone
You're the first person I know of, who's had three S21 Ultras
Man i really hope you got a good piece this time around. Best of luck!
And congratulations
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Cheers. Have you kept count on how many other Samsung devices I've returned and re purchased? I'll save you the task. Not many.
A good piece? I hope so. But then again it'll be upgrade time in a few months time. January perhaps.
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Cheers. Have you kept count on how many other Samsung devices I've returned and re purchased? I'll save you the task. Not many.
A good piece? I hope so. But then again it'll be upgrade time in a few months time. January perhaps.
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I hope it's not an iPhone you've set your eyes on
I'm thinking of purchasing a Pixel 5a off of eBay, but I just started seeing all the (very large number of) threads on reddit about the BSOD/motherboard issue with the 5a. How widespread is this problem? Is it better to avoid this phone and get the 4a5g instead?
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I'm thinking of purchasing a Pixel 5a off of eBay, but I just started seeing all the (very large number of) threads on reddit about the BSOD/motherboard issue with the 5a. How widespread is this problem? Is it better to avoid this phone and get the 4a5g instead?
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It's widespread enough that Google officially extended the warranty from 1 year to 2 (https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/11833075?hl=en)
I don't know if it's a bad idea or not. I've been running the phone with the hope that it won't happen.
i´m using my 5a in Argentina from more than 1 year now, all ok, never any fail
I got mine in November 2021. Still using it. I'd be more concerned about getting one off of eBay myself.
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It's widespread enough that Google officially extended the warranty from 1 year to 2 (https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/11833075?hl=en)
I don't know if it's a bad idea or not. I've been running the phone with the hope that it won't happen.
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Yeah, I saw that they extended the warranty. It doesn't seem like a great sign. Although I suppose it's possible Google did that because of the level of complaining, rather than because the problem is greater with the 5a than other pixels (there also are some, though far fewer, reports of the 4a5g and 5 suddenly bricking themselves).
I sort of wish I'd never looked at reddit. I also wish there were good statistics on the actual failure rate. But now I think I may always be wondering if it will just suddenly fail one day.
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i´m using my 5a in Argentina from more than 1 year now, all ok, never any fail
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Quite a few people say it happens around the 14/month mark. Some people say they got more than one replacement from Google and they all failed. It's a little crazy if you look at reddit. If you search on simply "5a" in the pixel reddits, literally just about every post is about the phone suddenly dying. It is interesting that you don't see that here on xda so much (although the reddit threads are much more active, with many more people).
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I got mine in November 2021. Still using it. I'd be more concerned about getting one off of eBay myself.
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I hear you. But I'm pretty careful about who I buy from on ebay and ask lots of questions first. So far I haven't had a problem (fingers crossed). I know people like Swappa. But Swappa seems to have been completely taken over by businesses, selling the same type of refurbished/open box inventory as you see on ebay. And you can't ask businesses questions on Swappa, which I just find bizarre.
I just picked mine up after second mothboard replacement. First mobo replacement has radio issue. My wife's just died too. We bought exact same time from google store unlocked. Glad to hear about the warranty extension.
Welp, mine just died yesterday. Got the RMA approved by Google. Pretty sad, I only used my Pixel 5a for a few months before switching to other devices. Then I switched back to it. Probably had less than 6 months total power on time.
I was using the phone and screen went black. At first you could tell it was still on, like it would still vibrate. Then it just died and won't power on. Battery was at ~68% and trying numerous chargers/cables did nothing.
Google also gave me a single use 20% off coupon towards Pixel 6a, 7 and 7 Pro. If they were still on sale for $100 - $150 off it would've been a no brainer for me, but they went back to full price and decreased the trade in value on the 5a.
I'm going to dump this phone as soon as I get it back. I've never had a phone die like this.
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I just picked mine up after second mothboard replacement. First mobo replacement has radio issue. My wife's just died too. We bought exact same time from google store unlocked. Glad to hear about the warranty extension.
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Sorry to hear that, but thanks for the feedback. Interestingly, it seems from reddit that this doesn't really happen with the 4a5g or regular 5 (though failures are not entirely unheard-of with those phones). I wonder if that's really true and why that would be considering how similar the three phones are?
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Welp, mine just died yesterday. Got the RMA approved by Google. Pretty sad, I only used my Pixel 5a for a few months before switching to other devices. Then I switched back to it. Probably had less than 6 months total power on time.
I was using the phone and screen went black. At first you could tell it was still on, like it would still vibrate. Then it just died and won't power on. Battery was at ~68% and trying numerous chargers/cables did nothing.
Google also gave me a single use 20% off coupon towards Pixel 6a, 7 and 7 Pro. If they were still on sale for $100 - $150 off it would've been a no brainer for me, but they went back to full price and decreased the trade in value on the 5a.
I'm going to dump this phone as soon as I get it back. I've never had a phone die like this.
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Wow, that's crazy that your's died three days after you replied to this thread. Sorry to hear that. It's such a bummer, because the 5a really seems like the best of the 4a5g/5/5a trio. Especially the giant battery is nice.
The way your phone failed, from reading a lot of posts on reddit, sounds exactly like what people have been experiencing: screen goes black, you can interact with it even though you can't see anything, and then it completely won't power on. Some people seem to only have the black screen issue, others it just goes straight to dead and won't power on, it's interesting that you went through both in quick succession.
I would get the 6a, even though I don't like the size (the new phones are so large and chunky) and a hate the visor, except the 6a/6/6pro/7/7pro are all notorious for their poor signal/recpetion issues. The modem in the Samsung exynos chipset that Google uses as the base for Tensor is just crap. Tons of people say they get the worst reception they've ever gotten on any phone, with the 6a/6/6pro/7/7pro.
The rumor is that the 7a will have a Qualcomm modem, which says a lot that Google is only going to use exynos for the CPU and not the entire chipset, modem included, as is normally done in cell phone designs. I wonder if that will make sticking to five years of updates hard, since Qualcomm sucks so much at providing driver updates. Anyway, I would hold out for the 7a and see if the rumors are true, before getting another Pixel device.
I'm sort of trying to find a phone that can tide me over until the Pixel 8, which hopefully will have a better design, smaller, thinner, drop the visor. Probably I'll pick up a 4a5g, since it seems like the 5a BSOD issues are definitely real. I like the 5 better, sizewise, but the under screen earpiece is just too poor quality; it's really a shame Google went for that gimmick on the 5.
I bought mine off eBay barely a month ago and so far I have no issues. Is there anything I should look for? I've never heard of this BSOD issue.
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I bought mine off eBay barely a month ago and so far I have no issues. Is there anything I should look for? I've never heard of this BSOD issue.
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I don't think there's any way to tell if you will have the issue or not. Reports are that after typically about a year the phone will just suddenly stop working, wih a black screen, like Dopamin3 describes above. It's a problem with the motherboard failing. If you want to get a sense of it, search for Pixel 5a in the r/GooglePixel reddit. Most recent posts about the Pixel 5a concern this. It seems to clearly be a problem with this phone model in particular, that the similar 4a5g and 5 don't have (or it is much less common). What I can't tell is, okay yes, this happens to a lot of Pixel 5a phones, and so there are a lot or reports online, but what precent? How likely is it? On the other hand, it happens enough that Google extended the warranty on this phone for an extra year, as Dopamin3 points out above.
Mine just died. Going through the process of having to send it in. Wish me luck.
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I'm thinking of purchasing a Pixel 5a off of eBay, but I just started seeing all the (very large number of) threads on reddit about the BSOD/motherboard issue with the 5a. How widespread is this problem? Is it better to avoid this phone and get the 4a5g instead?
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Problem just happened to me, 16 months owned. I'd say stay away, not only because of the mobo problem but honestly, the phone isn't all that great anyway. It's pretty slow. And I don't know if this is related to the mobo issue but there are times when I would screen press an icon 4-7 times before it responded.
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I don't think there's any way to tell if you will have the issue or not. Reports are that after typically about a year the phone will just suddenly stop working, wih a black screen, like Dopamin3 describes above. It's a problem with the motherboard failing. If you want to get a sense of it, search for Pixel 5a in the r/GooglePixel reddit. Most recent posts about the Pixel 5a concern this. It seems to clearly be a problem with this phone model in particular, that the similar 4a5g and 5 don't have (or it is much less common). What I can't tell is, okay yes, this happens to a lot of Pixel 5a phones, and so there are a lot or reports online, but what precent? How likely is it? On the other hand, it happens enough that Google extended the warranty on this phone for an extra year, as Dopamin3 points out above.
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Phone went black on me about 4 days ago. It took about an hour but I was able to get it started again. Plugged it in to recharge overnight and in the morning, found it had shutdown again. Was able to reboot immediately, this time. It worked for 2 more days and then yesterday, while on a hike, it died and has not come back since then.
It's almost funny how they tell you to backup the phone and then erase it before sending it in. Hard to do when you can't get the phone to turn on!
I spoke to one of the uBreakiFix stores here in Silicon Valley and the guy told me that he doesn't have any mobo's in stock and that they are difficult to get. If I brought the phone to him, he has 5 or 6 people ahead of me and he is only allowed (by Google? or store management?) to order one 5a mobo at a time.. So I am sending mine into Google for repair.
I had been thinking of trading this phone in back in Dec for a Pixel 7, when they had those good offers. It would have cost me $150 for the P7 with the trade in then. Wish I had done that now!
@joe99joe Sorry to hear your phone died. The way you were able to get your phone to come back a couple times, I wonder if you have a battery issue, rather than it being the motherboard. It sounds a little like how I experienced a bad battery replacement in an OG Pixel. Anyway, good luck, whatever you do.
I ended up getting a Pixel 4a5g. It doesn't have anywhere near the kind of reports of dying on people as the 5a. I'm hoping it will be good for a couple years and then maybe I'll get a Pixel 8a or 9 or something. I'm still waiting for Google to sort out their low quality modem issues in the Pixel 6 and 7 series, causing really bad signal/reception.
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@joe99joe Sorry to hear your phone died. The way you were able to get your phone to come back a couple times, I wonder if you have a battery issue, rather than it being the motherboard. It sounds a little like how I experienced a bad battery replacement in an OG Pixel. Anyway, good luck, whatever you do.
I ended up getting a Pixel 4a5g. It doesn't have anywhere near the kind of reports of dying on people as the 5a. I'm hoping it will be good for a couple years and then maybe I'll get a Pixel 8a or 9 or something. I'm still waiting for Google to sort out their low quality modem issues in the Pixel 6 and 7 series, causing really bad signal/reception.
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No, it was power. I sent it to Google on Monday, Arrived Tuesday and was confirmed power problem. They are working on repairing it now and should have it back in a few days. No charge, no postage fees. Sometimes Google does good. Meanwhile, I am using my od Pixel 3XL, which truth be told, is a better phone than the 5a. It's lighter, speedier but the battery is dying and the screen is cracked.
This happened on my 5a. No signs of life. Since I needed a backup phone for my Xperia, I'm gonna get the Nothing Phone 1 today.
I actally thought 5a will stay with me for 3 years, but no.... Only a year and one month. Damn you Google
I would just get the 4a honestly I took mine to ubreak today and they replaced the screen a bunch of times then told me there was nothing else they could do even though the receptionist told me it's Google's policy that they have to fix any phone they open. I contacted live chat and they told me to send it to them and it would still be covered even though it said my warranty expired in October.
I cannot believe it's happened to me again (first was august last year). i should've traded it in for a pixel 7 when i had the chance, although idk about using pixels anymore. this is ridiculous. last time it looked like they installed a better display, because this one looks free of scratches without using a screen protector. but i wish they knew why this happens. also looks like they allow an extended warranty for this kind of damage. they should honestly at least upgrade me to a 6a.
For those who have experienced this, how heavily do you use your phone? Like how often do you have to recharge, and do you run things where it heats up much? I am wondering if the typical failure is some problem with thermal cycling and fractures, or flash degradation. I assume its not just the battery/power supply if they have to replace the MB to fix it.
I bought mine direct from Google back in Aug 2021, so have been using it about 20 months. But I am a light user and typically get 7-10 days on a charge... I was originally assuming the hardware would last longer than Google is going to support the firmware.
k, so i'm really p*ssed off right now. the inspection came back saying audio problems that would cost $99 to repair. got nowhere in chat, so i called. she said there was a speaker problem and a volume button problem (they would have had to occur concurrently with the main problem, cause i would have definitely noticed em) no mention of the display or power issue. how? when i sent it in, the display would simply not work. i tried re-flashing stock firmware using google chrome's flash tools, and it would fail at booting into fastboot. i could tell the phone was on, though, because i felt the vibration and the usb connect sound on the laptop. so how was there no mention of those problems? i'm not sure if i should just assume that the phone's display is working. she would only say that the phone powers up properly and there was no mention of a display problem. the language seems too vague, and knowing full well what happened this time *and* how it's exactly what happened last time, i'm skeptical. how last time they replaced the motherboard, but this time, there's not even a mention of a display or power issue. and when i asked what the trade-in value would be if i forgo the repairs, she said $25. if it powers on and is free of scratches, it should be the normal value. should i just take my chances on getting it back without repairs and take the trade-in value, whatever it'll be, for the 7a?
edit: i see the trade-in value is $25. idk why it went down so much, but i'm sure it'll go back up for 7a deals