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Exchange security bypass possible?

I used to like the exchange security bypass on KitKat thanks to xposed. We don't have that on lollipop. Is there a way to bypass exchange security without xposed on the nexus 6? I am running pure shamu rom without encryption.

Hopefully not. That's one of the things Google is trying to prevent by improving security... These stupid bypasses are one of the reasons a lot of companies won't let their employees use android phones.
Why can't you just use Touchdown or Nine? They allow you to maintain your company's exchange security without requiring full phone encryption or pins... Win-win.

I use Mailwise which has the ability to bypass exchange security. I've also used AquaMail and Enhanced Email which allow exchange security bypass. I know this doesn't help the stock email but may work for you.

Thanks guys. I just tried a few of the suggested options. I love nine -- great interface and features and is exactly what I needed. I had tried touchdown many years ago, before activesync came with the stock email app. I didn't like its UI so have stayed away. Nine is a lot closer to the stock UI and the differences I have seen so far are ones I like.

JasonJoel said:
Hopefully not. That's one of the things Google is trying to prevent by improving security... These stupid bypasses are one of the reasons a lot of companies won't let their employees use android phones.
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There is so much wrong with your "answer". Companies in general aren't refusing to let employees use their android phones, and the real problem isn't bypassing the security (which, incidentally, is trivial by modding and compiling your own exchange.apk) but that the "admin" rights are too broad. There isn't an "email admin" rights level that would allow wiping the email account but not grant wipe capability for the entire phone.
In the real world, companies accept some level of these risks (despite your assertion) simply because having employees connected gives them gains in productivity. So here's a test... name five of the Fortune 500 - all I'm asking for is 1% - that do as you claim - that a "lot" of companies ban android phones (while allowing employee-owned iPhones.)
If you aren't lying, if it really is a "lot", you should be able to name many, but I'm only asking for 1%. Go for it.

Your reply is funny. I've worked for two fortune 10 companies in the past 2 years that won't let their employees use android phones for exchange access for this reason... So don't tell me about 'real world'.
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So whether you find it silly, or unfounded, there most certainly are companies that view android as insecure due to the ease of rooting and bypass of core information sanitization capabilities.

JasonJoel said:
Hopefully not. That's one of the things Google is trying to prevent by improving security... These stupid bypasses are one of the reasons a lot of companies won't let their employees use android phones.
Why can't you just use Touchdown or Nine? They allow you to maintain your company's exchange security without requiring full phone encryption or pins... Win-win.
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For years I have found ways to get around exchange security. I do agree it hurts my company why they went all Apple. Now I like using apps like Nine where keeps security and I can still do a pattern unlock my device. Made the hassle of finding a solution or rom to get around this issue a non-issue for me.
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JasonJoel said:
Your reply is funny. I've worked for two fortune 10 companies in the past 2 years that won't let their employees use android phones for exchange access for this reason... So don't tell me about 'real world'.
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So whether you find it silly, or unfounded, there most certainly are companies that view android as insecure due to the ease of rooting and bypass of core information sanitization capabilities.
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Yep. I work for a big one you all know if i named it. Apple only and i am in IT so i know how take my certificate off the server and force it on my android phone. Funny thing is a security admin showed me how but we all same level I am just not over security. Not all can do what I did they lack admin rights get file they need but 99% company and Apple nutballs anyway. So it works if you know how and can get the certificate. Well for us!
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You can jailbreak Apple and bypass exchange security. Not sure the argument to exclude Android makes much sense. Maybe if they only gave access to Blackberry it would make more sense. Although there may be a way I don't know of with BB as well.

The real problem here is that the Exchange security requires you to use a password or PIN, which I find inconvenient to no end. Why is the pattern unlock not a viable option? Even when I ran the Exchange security bypass on my Nexus 4 and 5, it was only so I could use pattern unlock.
Until someone figures this out for L, I'll be using CloudMagic, which has a bypass. Unfortunately it doesn't sync my Exchange calendar. Needless to say I've been late to/missed a few meetings in the past couple of months.

I have my corporate exchange account on my nexus 6 using the AOSP Mail app. Generally it does require pin/password, but for some reason after it came up saying that I had to have one, I was able to skip actually setting one. No idea why I was able to do it, but I was.
And yes, I do have security to get onto my phone...I use morse code to unlock.

This has worked for me with every RoM I've used so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28246860
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what you guys think about Chinese smartphone?

So ya I'm working on a research about the expending Chinese smartphone market
And I want to know what westerner like you guys think about Chinese smartphone, like what is your impression on Xiaomi or one plus one, and of course I'm a Asian so please help !!!!
If you can, I also want to know what phone you are using as a reference
thank you

Well I like my Chinese devices, why have one good device when you can have many faulty ones for the same price which you can get many refunds and replacements!
The last two months have been like this for me:
-bought Pendo pad 7 dual core, kitkat android tablet ($50) Didn't like it and it had a live of dead pixels so I got a refund about a week later.
-bought a Pendo pad 7 quad core Windows 8.1 tablet ($90). Liked it but as I mostly downloaded stuff on it with malware, I often fully wiped it. It stopped getting wiped and had a hardware rattle, so I refunded it.
-missed having an android tablet, so read some reviews and decided the one I had was probably really bad, so I bought both the Windows and android tablets at the same time.
-my non Chinese phone broke, so I sold the android Pendo pad to my brother, and bought a (I think its Chinese) ZTE tempo for $50.
Had no faults since. I like the Chinese phones/tablets, since they are so cheap. However, because they can be high maintenance, I understand they are not for everybody.
-also bought a matching Pendo keyboard for the tablets, and also had to get a replacement as it stopped pairing with the devices.
Side note:
I bought all these devices from local stores (except the keyboard, it was about an hours drive away), so it wasn't hard to get refunds/replacements. I wouldn't recommend buying electronics straight from China.

With my experience with tons of Chinese device I can say: It's cheap, average perfomance but really bad hardware quality. But some are really good like Xiaomi or Onda....

I have one plus one dude and its awesome.

Hey, Chinese devices are high-tech devices that present technologies just launched on the market, few know about them because they do not have their own famous brand. Not everyone is good because even the level of external radiation may be higher than normal, in a nutshell, you have to buy with care.
Sorry for my BAD ENGLISH, I'm ITALIAN!

TitanusDeveloper said:
Hey, Chinese devices are high-tech devices that present technologies just launched on the market, few know about them because they do not have their own famous brand. Not everyone is good because even the level of external radiation may be higher than normal, in a nutshell, you have to buy with care.
Sorry for my BAD ENGLISH, I'm ITALIAN!
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Hola

sheldon1998 said:
So ya I'm working on a research about the expending Chinese smartphone market
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That's very detailed ackground info.
sheldon1998 said:
And I want to know what westerner like you guys think about Chinese smartphone, like what is your impression on Xiaomi or one plus one, and of course I'm a Asian so please help !!!!
If you can, I also want to know what phone you are using as a reference
thank you
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It is difficult to lump all chinese smartphone manufacturers together in one group but,.....one difference that I can see is the tendency to create phone with permanently locked bootloaders, not providing kernel sources as the GPL demands, not providing post-sales support and updates and, not providing any AOSP code that can help kickstart custom rom development. On the plus side, they tend to have decent specs (only looking at Qualcomm models - MediaTek, Allwinner, RockChip devices etc are usually to be avoided) and are cheaper than familiar brand names.
Companies like Oppo and OnePlus that try to create devices that are unlockable, rootable and well supported with AOSP roms get my vote. The vast majority of chinese manufacturers big and small like Lenovo, Xiaomi, Huawei, ZTE, Gionee, Coolpad etc make products that can never make it to my shortlist because they are dead-end devices. I've advised everyone I know who bought one of these devices to return them.
No bootloader unlock, usually no root, no kernel sources, no custom roms?. No thanks!

MiyagiSan said:
That's very detailed ackground info.
It is difficult to lump all chinese smartphone manufacturers together in one group but,.....one difference that I can see is the tendency to create phone with permanently locked bootloaders, not providing kernel sources as the GPL demands, not providing post-sales support and updates and, not providing any AOSP code that can help kickstart custom rom development. On the plus side, they tend to have decent specs (only looking at Qualcomm models - MediaTek, Allwinner, RockChip devices etc are usually to be avoided) and are cheaper than familiar brand names.
Companies like Oppo and OnePlus that try to create devices that are unlockable, rootable and well supported with AOSP roms get my vote. The vast majority of chinese manufacturers big and small like Lenovo, Xiaomi, Huawei, ZTE, Gionee, Coolpad etc make products that can never make it to my shortlist because they are dead-end devices. I've advised everyone I know who bought one of these devices to return them.
No bootloader unlock, usually no root, no kernel sources, no custom roms?. No thanks!
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So in short, you are also a flashaholic, aren't you?

I've found Huawei to have lots of development. Otherwise, I agree.

Maynard100 said:
So in short, you are also a flashaholic, aren't you?
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No, not really. I use these criteria as a measure of whether a device is a dead-end device.
Further, it is only right that a device that I buy is under my control and that I am able to do as I please with it.
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Jesse72 said:
I've found Huawei to have lots of development. Otherwise, I agree.
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Huawei and ZTE have some well known devices that have enjoyed decent development support. On the whole though, they churn out devices that don't enjoy any or much dev support AFAICT.

MiyagiSan said:
No, not really. I use these criteria as a measure of whether a device is a dead-end device.
Further, it is only right that a device that I buy is under my control and that I am able to do as I please with it.
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Huawei and ZTE have some well known devices that have enjoyed decent development support. On the whole though, they churn out devices that don't enjoy any or much dev support AFAICT.
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Ya, I agree that huawei doesn't have dev support which turn potential buyers away.

Physical Keyboard Mod For Moto Z

Not strictly Motorola Droid 4 related, but for those of us in this section of the forums, I would imagine there is some level of interest in a phone made within the last 4 years that has a physical keyboard.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/physical-keyboard-mod-for-moto-z#/
This campaign is a "fixed goal," which means that they will only receive the funds if they reach their $100,000 goal.
As skeptical as I am, I've put in on this. I'll gladly pay $60 for hope.
It should also be noted that they also stated on Reddit that they are probably not going to be able to have a secondary battery component as part of the keyboard.

joefuf said:
Not strictly Motorola Droid 4 related, but for those of us in this section of the forums, I would imagine there is some level of interest in a phone made within the last 4 years that has a physical keyboard.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/physical-keyboard-mod-for-moto-z#/
This campaign is a "fixed goal," which means that they will only receive the funds if they reach their $100,000 goal.
As skeptical as I am, I've put in on this. I'll gladly pay $60 for hope.
It should also be noted that they also stated on Reddit that they are probably not going to be able to have a secondary battery component as part of the keyboard.
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I saw that, thanks for spreading the word. What's the scene for the Moto Z look like? Not going to consider jumping ship unless I can root and install Xposed.

hockeymikey said:
I saw that, thanks for spreading the word. What's the scene for the Moto Z look like? Not going to consider jumping ship unless I can root and install Xposed.
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Looks as though there is an active development community.

When upgrading from Sony Xperia Pro, the bigger and heavier Droid 4 felt like a brick in my hands, but I got used to it.
Moto Z+Slider - I'm tempted because it features a real wire connection instead of bluetooth+additional battery, but unsure if it's size will still feel comfortable in my pocket...
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3779&idPhone2=4418&idPhone3=8094

Does anyone know how to contact the people who started the Indiegogo campaign for the physical Moto Z keyboardc These modern websites are too confusing for someone like me. I can't even figure out how to contact them. Or should I say that I tried and got no reply. I could REALLY use a physical keyboard on my next phone.

An update on this. The campaign finished successfully and they went to production with two different keyboards, one with no battery and one with an additional battery. But that's where it turns ugly, showing all the hallmarks of a major product-development fustercluck. First, a problem was uncovered that the keyboard isn't recognized by the Z without a major firmware update. Then, a large chunk of the team at Motorola in Chicago that developed the Moto Z phones and does software and hardware interfaces were laid off. And now, the update they pushed out via OTA from Moto has been problematic. Thanks to broader financial problems at Lenovo, the entire future of the Mods ecosystem is in doubt.
I have not received a reply to my request to purchase one of these post-campaign. All production has been placed on hold pending resolution of the software update.
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Oh, and there's also this:
Liangchen Chen - Campaigner - 9 days ago
When we solve the OTA issue of K1L and resume shipping, I will open for pre-order. I want to get everything 100% confirmed before taking more orders, and avoid future delays.
As for support with 3rd-party OSes, there's this:
Sean McCreary - 5 days ago @liangchen Chen Yes, I maintain the addison build for LineageOS, and we have been working on the requirements for Mod support for over a year. Unfortunately Motorola’s closed source approach makes it unlikely full Mod support will ever be possible in builds distributed by us, but I am hopeful we can add support for the keyboard Mod.

Phew.... so I'm lucky having acquired a new Blackberry Priv a couple of months ago - for the same price as the sole slider mod. It doesn't get any updates anymore but at least it is running stable... Smartphone mods are a niche market. Just as phones with hardware keyboards

Pathetic Honor People and support

I recently learnt programing and started android app development. Very enthusiastically I bought an honor play device and what I learn now is that the Bootloader cannot be unlocked because these pathetic people have decided not to let people unlock their devices... why because they put a spy chip and software in their device and don't want us to block traffic for it and their pathetic ads!!
Never buy honor again
Following are the tweets I made to honor today!
@huaweiPhones 
 @huaweiMobile 
 @hihonorIndia
When someone buys a device it's theirs'. They decide what to do with it! What rights do you have to prevent someone from doing what they want to do with their phones. Let people unlock their bootloaders.
#donotbuyhuawei
#dontbuyhonor
@huaweiMobile When someone buys a device it's theirs'. They decide what to do with it! How can you; in fact what rights do you have to prevent someone from doing what they want to do with their phones. Let people unlock their bootloaders. #donotbuyhuawei
I hope it makes some sense to them...
what do you have to say about it? Do you agree?
Let Me Know and put in on other forums..

At least, learn to show little respect even when things aren't right or good about their products. The right approach in addressing such complain is to be civil about it.

Respect people only until they are worthy of it!
pja1985430 said:
At least, learn to show little respect even when things aren't right or good about their products. The right approach in addressing such complain is to be civil about it.
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I did in the beginning...
Following was my communication with these retards...
I was being very respectful but stupid coercive Chinese people are going to bear the burnt of their actions soon!
being a developer I find it difficult to integrate app in the system making it resistant to formatting. Pls provide me the bootloader code. Thanks and Regards.
Honor India
@dhamalRohit Thank you for getting in touch with us. We request you to please visit nearest service center in order to get bootloader code. You can find nearest service center details from HiCare app or by visiting the link: - https://www.hihonor.com/in/support/service-center/index.html … and service center works Monday to Saturday 10 A.M to 6 P.M. We request you to carry your device invoice copy with IMEI number mentioned on it, photo ID proof and take the backup of all your important data (if possible) before visiting to service center.
Jan 20
Rohit Dhamal
sure, thank you very much! with your help and cooperation I can contribute to the developer community in a better way!
Rohit Dhamal
Honor always better than the best!
Honor India
@dhamalRohit Thank you for the compliment. Your support keeps us going.
Jan 21
Rohit Dhamal
Hi. I am at the ashtavinayak service center kalyan Mumbai. They don't have any idea about bootloader unlock and code. Can you forward it directly, or talk to the technical person?
Honor India
@dhamalRohit Sorry for the inconvenience caused to you. We request you to kindly share your contact details and device model name so that we can assist you in the best possible way.
Jan 25
Rohit Dhamal
Sure, thanks. My mobile number is **********. Email:******
Device is honor play.
Rohit Dhamal
IMEI1:*****
IMEI2:******
SN:+++++++
Honor India
@dhamalRohit As per the telephonic conversation we have addressed your concern. Kindly visit our authorized nearest service center in order to get Bootloader unlock code for your device. You can find nearest service center details from HiCare app or by visiting the link: - https://www.hihonor.com/in/support/service-center/index.html … and service center works Monday to Saturday 10 A.M to 6 P.M. We request you to carry your device invoice copy with IMEI number mentioned on it, photo ID proof and take the backup of all your important data (if possible) before visiting to service center.
Jan 25
Rohit Dhamal
Hi.. As discussed over the phone I Visited the akshay service center at kalyan. Unfortunately the centre closed down a month ago. I am quite fed up of visiting every single location. Kindly possibly send me the code itself by mail or message. The said akshay center was taken over by ashtavinayak service as per info available.
Rohit Dhamal
Hello, can we reach a solution please? My development is completely stalled due to the bootloader issue.
Honor India
@dhamalRohit As per the telephonic conversation we have addressed your concern. We have raised the complaint with this (SR220190128112952400) complaint number. Kindly wait for some time our relevant team will contact you soon.
Jan 28
Rohit Dhamal
Thank you very much for your support. I will definitely visit the service center ASAP. Thanks once again.
Rohit Dhamal
Hello,
My hardships do not seem to end. The honor service center people asked me to keep back my phone with them for a day for a procedure of less than 5 min.
Why can't they just hand me over the code and finish off in 5 seconds? My development has stalled and the student group involved in the project will get a memo for delays in work. Pls resolve the issue.

>Want to program apps for android which doesn't require the bootloader to be unlocked
>Complains about bootloader being locked and the ads.
Why you bought this phone without researching about it's software?

Hmmmm .. you really should do some research before buying your next device !

You seniors are useless
You senior members supporting honor company same on you. They pay you for it.lol. @The Mero @restlesssoul
I support you @rohitdhamal

Hey Ashishvala15 ... .. yeah i do support honor and xiaomi , because they make good budget phones .. not that you would understand that of course sitting there writing fake posts are about phones you dont even own .. Now whos the one making the money again ???

Don't say that you are a developer if you are too lazy to search about the device before buying.

It's funny how people think that just because they pay the money they can do whatever they want. Big companies lock their bootloaders it raise huge amounts of security concerns. A primary one being the wrong people being able to change their imei numbers with a rooted device. I'm pretty sure you might need the code for good reasons but there are thousands more who would use it for all the wrong reasons. In which case the company clearly reserves the right of whether or not to provide the codes.

Rohit honor is the **** and you are arguing with some shot makers here aswell. I have waste the my time with service centre guyz and result was similar. Now they mentioning that they dont wanna give code ans this msg came from call center guyz. I dnt know whT to do now apart from the last phons from honor am using now.
Who ever want to defend honor about bootloader code idgf.
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rohitdhamal said:
I recently learnt programing and started android app development. Very enthusiastically I bought an honor play device and what I learn now is that the Bootloader cannot be unlocked because these pathetic people have decided not to let people unlock their devices... why because they put a spy chip and software in their device and don't want us to block traffic for it and their pathetic ads!!
Never buy honor again
Following are the tweets I made to honor today!
@huaweiPhones
@huaweiMobile
@hihonorIndia
When someone buys a device it's theirs'. They decide what to do with it! What rights do you have to prevent someone from doing what they want to do with their phones. Let people unlock their bootloaders.
#donotbuyhuawei
#dontbuyhonor
@huaweiMobile When someone buys a device it's theirs'. They decide what to do with it! How can you; in fact what rights do you have to prevent someone from doing what they want to do with their phones. Let people unlock their bootloaders. #donotbuyhuawei
I hope it makes some sense to them...
what do you have to say about it? Do you agree?
Let Me Know and put in on other forums..
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Have u ever bought an iPhone. The reason u bought the honor play is it is cheap with flagship processor
And I am pretty sure that u dint buy the honor play to just to unlock bootloader and install other roms
U should know because of there competition u r getting better phone day by day

Uh, guys, could you please stop that slang?
The forum language is english.
I don't understand much of your slang talk!

Wow there is a lot of cr*p here. If you BUY a product, you should be allowed to use it AS IT SUITS YOU.
- Imagine buying a car, with the company refusing you to go in a different garage than theirs. You can't put new tires, can't change the oil or can't refuel without their consent.
- When you ask why, they respond it is for security measures : you could install unauthorized parts, change the serial number... All presenting security issues.
- When you say you bought that car, that it belongs to you ; they respond they made it. It belong to the them. You are merely a user.
Do you see where I'm getting to? You are deliberatetly lying to us, presenting theses arguments ; or worse, you believe them and you should seriously reconsider your opinions.
The truth is : they don't want you to unlock the bootloader, to root your phone, because you will make them lose a loooooot of money in ad, product placement...
They spy, yes. As everyone else does. Sony do. Samsung do. Apple do.

Mazzeru said:
Wow there is a lot of cr*p here. If you BUY a product, you should be allowed to use it AS IT SUITS YOU.
- Imagine buying a car, with the company refusing you to go in a different garage than theirs. You can't put new tires, can't change the oil or can't refuel without their consent.
- When you ask why, they respond it is for security measures : you could install unauthorized parts, change the serial number... All presenting security issues.
- When you say you bought that car, that it belongs to you ; they respond they made it. It belong to the them. You are merely a user.
Do you see where I'm getting to? You are deliberatetly lying to us, presenting theses arguments ; or worse, you believe them and you should seriously reconsider your opinions.
The truth is : they don't want you to unlock the bootloader, to root your phone, because you will make them lose a loooooot of money in ad, product placement...
They spy, yes. As everyone else does. Sony do. Samsung do. Apple do.
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Excuse me if I will hurt somebody's feelings.
I read this topic periodically and feel like now I should make a point.
If you have bought a phone with an unlockable bootloader and suffering now. Your'e kind of idiot just because of one thing. There's an official statement from Huawei regarding this topic. Google it first. buy second.
And if you would think that any IT company should let you do anything with the product you've bought then I feel sorry for you cause you're wrong. When you buy a phone you buy a thing with listed specifications:
-wi-fi, voice calls, battery capacity, android X OS, etc
If the feature is listed and you can't use it cause it has been restricted to you for any cause then it is total **** up from manufacturer. But if it is an optional like bootloader unlock or voice recording then you shouldnt be so angry. Cause before buy you have to make sure that the thing fits you.
Security reasons thing... I dont have exact numbers but I'm pretty sure that there are so few people use unlocked bootloader among ALL smartphone users community so companies not worried aboud loosing money on ads, apps, etc.
The real security reason is to avoid revers engineering of their software. And they can do it cause it's their right to protect their intellectual property.
P.S
Yeah, I feel sad too cause I can't unlock my phone and decompile system apps and making some changes in system software. But... My phone is great for the money I spend on it. It works as it should. And I don't regret buying it at all

Some honor bhakts are barking here too. A **** company
#dontbuyhuawei #dontbuyhonor

rajit said:
Some honor bhakts are barking here too. A **** company
#dontbuyhuawei #dontbuyhonor
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Wow xD talk about funny things happening! I'm sorry I didn't recognize you! You are the loser from the other thread!! So this is why you're so pissed xD you wanted to unlock your bootloader but you can't?! I'd say Huawei ssccrreeweedd you nice and good huh! xD Don't worry though, I am not going to educate you(if you know what I mean)here too, I have realised that you not capable of learning even to talk properly on international level forums.
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Mazzeru said:
Wow there is a lot of cr*p here. If you BUY a product, you should be allowed to use it AS IT SUITS YOU.
- Imagine buying a car, with the company refusing you to go in a different garage than theirs. You can't put new tires, can't change the oil or can't refuel without their consent.
- When you ask why, they respond it is for security measures : you could install unauthorized parts, change the serial number... All presenting security issues.
- When you say you bought that car, that it belongs to you ; they respond they made it. It belong to the them. You are merely a user.
Do you see where I'm getting to? You are deliberatetly lying to us, presenting theses arguments ; or worse, you believe them and you should seriously reconsider your opinions.
The truth is : they don't want you to unlock the bootloader, to root your phone, because you will make them lose a loooooot of money in ad, product placement...
They spy, yes. As everyone else does. Sony do. Samsung do. Apple do.
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So.. Supposedly you own a ferrari then You do realize that if you take your car to some xyz workshop and he replaces parts for some cheaper ones and screw with you engine or put the wrong oil in your ferrari then the car will die out on you? And that that's why the ferrari always asks you to service your car at authorised service centers? What I want you to understand is that you are free to find the codes yourself, if you make your fone explode by doing experiments on it then that's on you. And as for changing Tyres of a car, man that's like changing the cover of a fone because it's worn out, you are free to do that too and anything else you want to do with your device, just don't expect the company to help you do it and don't bad mouth the company for that. I honestly love my honor play, it is everything that I expected it to be except of course low light pictures but I can live with that because I don't click much pictures anyway in low light. Every fone will have something less, there is no such thing as perfect fone, the question is whether you can live with that or not and if can't then do your research and buy what you need. If you have already bought it then sell it to someone who doesn't care about bootloader unlocking and all. Simple. Peace out.

Ghost52367 said:
Wow xD talk about funny things happening! I'm sorry I didn't recognize you! You are the loser from the other thread!! So this is why you're so pissed xD you wanted to unlock your bootloader but you can't?! I'd say Huawei ssccrreeweedd you nice and good huh! xD Don't worry though, I am not going to educate you(if you know what I mean)here too, I have realised that you not capable of learning even to talk properly on international level forums.
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So.. Supposedly you own a ferrari then You do realize that if you take your car to some xyz workshop and he replaces parts for some cheaper ones and screw with you engine or put the wrong oil in your ferrari then the car will die out on you? And that that's why the ferrari always asks you to service your car at authorised service centers? What I want you to understand is that you are free to find the codes yourself, if you make your fone explode by doing experiments on it then that's on you. And as for changing Tyres of a car, man that's like changing the cover of a fone because it's worn out, you are free to do that too and anything else you want to do with your device, just don't expect the company to help you do it and don't bad mouth the company for that. I honestly love my honor play, it is everything that I expected it to be except of course low light pictures but I can live with that because I don't click much pictures anyway in low light. Every fone will have something less, there is no such thing as perfect fone, the question is whether you can live with that or not and if can't then do your research and buy what you need. If you have already bought it then sell it to someone who doesn't care about bootloader unlocking and all. Simple. Peace out.
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Awesome dude

Like, man, Huawei is possibly the worst choice of phone for experimenting with ROMs and rooting. There are many other root friendly brands like Xiaomi, OnePlus etc.

I think Honor should be more particular about updates if they want to keep their bootloader locked. Its not possible for people to purchase a new device every year. They also sometimes ruined their camera to push customers to buy new phones ex Honor 6x and Honor Play

I agree that refusing giving unlock codes has many disadvantages, but I think Huawei may want to protect its technology. For example, they surely don't want you know how GPU TURBO and Ark Compiler work.

Huawei to lose access to Google services

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ei-after-trump-blacklist-source-idUSKCN1SP0NB
"Huawei Technologies Co Ltd will immediately lose access to updates to the Android operating system, and the next version of its smartphones outside of China will also lose access to popular applications and services including the Google Play Store and Gmail app."
Not good news

This happened to ZTE as well for the same reason but the company was later reinstated to 'approved'.

Is this due to the trade dispute, which will only be temporary, or is this because of the spying fears, which would be long lasting...

It's because of the Trump Executive Order:
https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-loses-access-to-google-android-987873/

Welp, people with bootloader unlocked devices might be able to emulate signature of another device to keep passing cts/google play certification (if Google going to revoke it, and its possible that they will).
https://github.com/Magisk-Modules-R...ices-fingerprint-to-pass-the-ctsprofile-check
For everyone else who doesn't have unlocked bootloader, its not going to be fun. Migrate to Huawei Pay.
Still no idea how it will affect Android updates, but it will at least be delayed now. We have to wait for Huawei response, because they have to give statement until their business in ROW (anywhere aside of Asia) burns.

iainmann said:
It's because of the Trump Executive Order:
https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-loses-access-to-google-android-987873/
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Is Trump's executive order because of the trade dispute or fears of spying? Or he just decided on an executive order because he lost a bet?

chetly968 said:
Is Trump's executive order because of the trade dispute or fears of spying? Or he just decided on an executive order because he lost a bet?
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Probably a mix of the three

chetly968 said:
Is Trump's executive order because of the trade dispute or fears of spying? Or he just decided on an executive order because he lost a bet?
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Yeah exactly another collateral damage and derivatives from Trade Dispute. He uses his 'exclusive rights' trying to curb competition from another country's manufacture ZTE was a previous example.

they saw it coming....
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...operating-system-for-smartphones-laptops.html

demon2112 said:
they saw it coming....
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...operating-system-for-smartphones-laptops.html
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But, what about the Google products like Playstore, YouTube, Gmail, etc

samnettt said:
But, what about the Google products like Playstore, YouTube, Gmail, etc
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I guess you want get them with new Huawei phones in the near future

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But, what about the Google products like Playstore, YouTube, Gmail, etc
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If it's not resolved, I presume Play Store would be a no-go, but could Huawei get access to YouTube etc?

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But, what about the Google products like Playstore, YouTube, Gmail, etc
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that will be no longer... if all pushes through...... app gallery would be the way to get apps

Trump the dictator wants to slow Huawei (and China in general) down by any means possible. He sent his henchmen all over to world to bully nations to stop using Huawei kit, but most didn't listen. His only last card to play was to "blacklist" Huawei from doing business with US companies, this is the nuclear option. Trump and his flunkies know that western 5G vendors are about 18 months behind Huawei, so they were looking at ways to sabotage the company and this is it. Plain and simple, there's no spying or tin-foil-hat conspiracies, only that Trump can't handle losing to the Chinese. The backlash from the BS move will be massive .. Let's wait and see, I think it'll be reversed.

enrique71 said:
Trump the dictator wants to slow Huawei (and China in general) down by any means possible. He sent his henchmen all over to world to bully nations to stop using Huawei kit, but most didn't listen. His only last card to play was to "blacklist" Huawei from doing business with US companies, this is the nuclear option. Trump and his flunkies know that western 5G vendors are about 18 months behind Huawei, so they were looking at ways to sabotage the company and this is it. Plain and simple, there's no spying or tin-foil-hat conspiracies, only that Trump can't handle losing to the Chinese. The backlash from the BS move will be massive .. Let's wait and see, I think it'll be reversed.
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Someone gets it! :good:

enrique71 said:
Trump the dictator wants to slow Huawei (and China in general) down by any means possible. He sent his henchmen all over to world to bully nations to stop using Huawei kit, but most didn't listen. His only last card to play was to "blacklist" Huawei from doing business with US companies, this is the nuclear option. Trump and his flunkies know that western 5G vendors are about 18 months behind Huawei, so they were looking at ways to sabotage the company and this is it. Plain and simple, there's no spying or tin-foil-hat conspiracies, only that Trump can't handle losing to the Chinese. The backlash from the BS move will be massive .. Let's wait and see, I think it'll be reversed.
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We hope so.
Because, alot of users outside of China are in anxiety

From Huawei UK

enrique71 said:
Trump the dictator wants to slow Huawei (and China in general) down by any means possible. He sent his henchmen all over to world to bully nations to stop using Huawei kit, but most didn't listen. His only last card to play was to "blacklist" Huawei from doing business with US companies, this is the nuclear option. Trump and his flunkies know that western 5G vendors are about 18 months behind Huawei, so they were looking at ways to sabotage the company and this is it. Plain and simple, there's no spying or tin-foil-hat conspiracies, only that Trump can't handle losing to the Chinese. The backlash from the BS move will be massive .. Let's wait and see, I think it'll be reversed.
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ORANGE MAN BAD, eh? Huawei has been a target of the U.S. long before Trump was in office. I guess Huawei stealing Billions of R&D from Nortel is just 'okay' by you, then. As far as the spying goes, everyone is spying. The whole Iran sanction thing is also laughable. Just please don't pretend that Huawei isn't an arm of the Chinese government, and that they are wholly innocent on the World stage.
This all sucks, I guess we will be stuck with AOSP updates until there is some actual real development for this phone. sigh, should have stuck with a Samsung I guess.
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From the Google statement, it looks like existing devices will be covered. But... Just how much effort is Huawei going to put into keeping a smattering of people happy? Are we ever going to see the 9.1 update now? Or, anything but barebones security updates? Bleh, it was always a bit of a risk to go with this phone, I hope we see real development for 3rd party roms.

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ORANGE MAN BAD, eh? Huawei has been a target of the U.S. long before Trump was in office. I guess Huawei stealing Billions of R&D from Nortel is just 'okay' by you, then. As far as the spying goes, everyone is spying. The whole Iran sanction thing is also laughable. Just please don't pretend that Huawei isn't an arm of the Chinese government, and that they are wholly innocent on the World stage.
This all sucks, I guess we will be stuck with AOSP updates until there is some actual real development for this phone. sigh, should have stuck with a Samsung I guess.
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From the Google statement, it looks like existing devices will be covered. But... Just how much effort is Huawei going to put into keeping a smattering of people happy? Are we ever going to see the 9.1 update now? Or, anything but barebones security updates? Bleh, it was always a bit of a risk to go with this phone, I hope we see real development for 3rd party roms.[/QUote
Existing devices will continue to work but will get no more updates including security updates, unless those are made available to AOSP
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'Huawei loss of Google certification temporarily delayed to August [Updated] - Official end date of Android license still uncertain as negotiations continue."
https://www.androidcentral.com/huaw...tw_card&utm_content=75027&utm_campaign=social
told you so ..