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hi every1.
i dont know how many of you out there are raw power and high oc freaks like me. but this is for the ones out there who want to take theyr phones to the limit:
i found a kernel by morfic which is really amazing, highest benchmarks of all time for a tegra 2 phone, plus oc range goes from 1.6 ghz to 1.7 ghz :O problem is, i have been trying to get any developer at all to port it since its a g2x kernel and all of the developers have ignored me untill now, so maybe if we "come out of the closet" XD and more people support this thread, we might have the fastest tegra 2 phone ever.
so, the question is, do you want to leave samsung, motorola, htc and others in the cloud of dust your o2x will leave behind?

many of you may not even care about very high oc's, but if you ask me guy's got a point.
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I9300 (Int) 4.4 Custom Kernels for Omni Nighties

First things first: this is not a "best kernel thread", so please avoid asking or stating in that direction. This is all about spotting what custom kernels are compatible with Omni (for now) Nighties, and what has been your experience with them so far.
In my case, I've tried both Yank's (1.6g-beta2) and Boeffla (beta 1a) and they are working flawlessly. At the moment I'm using Boeffla just cause I find it easier to toy with different configurations and Yank's can only be tweaked from aroma. And in my personal experience, I've found that using ART instead of dalvik, it feels like I'm having a smoother experience (with a bit more battery drain, I must admit). But like I said, this is only how those kernels work on my device and that doesn't mean it will happen exactly the same way in your's and how you'd feel about them.
Any other kernels have been tested and are working in Omni 4.4 nighties?

fermasia said:
First things first: this is not a "best kernel thread", so please avoid asking or stating in that direction. This is all about spotting what custom kernels are compatible with Omni (for now) Nighties, and what has been your experience with them so far.
In my case, I've tried both Yank's (1.6g-beta2) and Boeffla (beta 1a) and they are working flawlessly. At the moment I'm using Boeffla just cause I find it easier to toy with different configurations and Yank's can only be tweaked from aroma. And in my personal experience, I've found that using ART instead of dalvik, it feels like I'm having a smoother experience (with a bit more battery drain, I must admit). But like I said, this is only how those kernels work on my device and that doesn't mean it will happen exactly the same way in your's and how you'd feel about them.
Any other kernels have been tested and are working in Omni 4.4 nighties?
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I follow you, I would install dual boot with a custom stock 4.3 (Android Revolution HD) and an android 4.4 rom (OmniROM).
I could create dual boot between 4.1/4.2/4.3/4.4(only CM11) roms with excellent Googy-Max Kernel... but nothing to do with OmniROM 4.4 due to recovery or kernel incompatibility.
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Ah, I found Devil2 Kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528624 that supports Omni 4.4... and dual booting

Never been a huge fan of dualbooting but since I'm planning to stay with Omni until we reach a estable build... I wouldn't mind giving stock 4.3 a spin.
Has anyone tried out Devil and Omni already?
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Just as an FYI with regards to custom kernels.
Just like with CM - Anyone can submit code to a kernel repository through gerrit for review. So if you're running something other than the official kernel, ask yourself:
1) What is the alternate kernel maintainer hiding? If their change is so good, why shouldn't it be the default, and why haven't they submitted their change to gerrit for review?
2) If they did submit a patch it was rejected - ask yourself why? Code review is public so you can find the reasons given for any patch being negatively reviewed (assuming the kernel maintainer even bothered to submit it).

Entropy512 said:
Just as an FYI with regards to custom kernels.
Just like with CM - Anyone can submit code to a kernel repository through gerrit for review. So if you're running something other than the official kernel, ask yourself:
1) What is the alternate kernel maintainer hiding? If their change is so good, why shouldn't it be the default, and why haven't they submitted their change to gerrit for review?
2) If they did submit a patch it was rejected - ask yourself why? Code review is public so you can find the reasons given for any patch being negatively reviewed (assuming the kernel maintainer even bothered to submit it).
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I´m not much more than a resourceful noob, I must admit. But even when your line of thoughts seems very logical, I wonder if there could be any other reasons for kernel maintainers like Lord Boeffla or Yank555 to remain aside from main ROM projects. Both of them have been around for long now, and I've experienced with their work in my device a lot, with no harm at all (I can't guarantee results for other people, just talking about my experience).
I guess custom kernels give you the chance to adjust your kernel to your own needs. Some people would be ok about sacrificing some performance to obtain a better battery result, or would like to have the freedom to choose the governor that best suits you, for instance. Isn't customization and freedom the whole thing about custom ROMS and GPL?
As for me, I go for customs kernels seeking a better balance between performance and battery life. The way I use my phone, I won't last a full day with original kernels. But I must admit that if I had an app to tweak Omni's original kernel myself, I'd do it (I don't got the knowledge to dev my own kernel, thought).

Entropy512 said:
Just as an FYI with regards to custom kernels.
Just like with CM - Anyone can submit code to a kernel repository through gerrit for review. So if you're running something other than the official kernel, ask yourself:
1) What is the alternate kernel maintainer hiding? If their change is so good, why shouldn't it be the default, and why haven't they submitted their change to gerrit for review?
2) If they did submit a patch it was rejected - ask yourself why? Code review is public so you can find the reasons given for any patch being negatively reviewed (assuming the kernel maintainer even bothered to submit it).
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Would you like to impelement CPU and GPU overclock?
Would you like to implement CPU and GPU undervolt?
Would you like to implement WIP governors like zzmoove?
I aksed only three questions from at least a few more, and I'm wondering if you could answer "yes" to at least one. Making custom kernel or custom rom is a great thing because we can push device to the limits, while doing so shouldn't be suggested neither implemented in any official kernel.

JustArchi said:
Would you like to impelement CPU and GPU overclock?
Would you like to implement CPU and GPU undervolt?
Would you like to implement WIP governors like zzmoove?
I aksed only three questions from at least a few more, and I'm wondering if you could answer "yes" to at least one. Making custom kernel or custom rom is a great thing because we can push device to the limits, while doing so shouldn't be suggested neither implemented in any official kernel.
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Voltage control/overclock - The stability issues these cause isn't worth it. Especially undervolting - at best it saves 3-4% on CPU core power savings, which is only 1-2% of system power even when the cores are at full tilt.
Alternate governors - These will have to, of course, go through review as to whether they have a valid reason for existing. 90% of alternate governors out there achieve nothing that can't be achieved merely by tuning the defaults of existing ones. Many of them are 100% marketing bull**** - Lionheart being the most blatant example. (Lionheart is nothing more than conservative with the minimum polling rate limit properly fixed...)

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Voltage control/overclock - The stability issues these cause isn't worth it. Especially undervolting - at best it saves 3-4% on CPU core power savings, which is only 1-2% of system power even when the cores are at full tilt.
Alternate governors - These will have to, of course, go through review as to whether they have a valid reason for existing. 90% of alternate governors out there achieve nothing that can't be achieved merely by tuning the defaults of existing ones. Many of them are 100% marketing bull**** - Lionheart being the most blatant example. (Lionheart is nothing more than conservative with the minimum polling rate limit properly fixed...)
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Of course you're right but if we're talking about gaming then in long-run uV can actually benefit users a bit more that 3-4%.
The most interesting thing is OC. It's always nice to have a bit more power than usual if you're using it only for a short time. This way you get real performance boost when it's needed, for example when CPU is doing a longer task. Nobody gets hurt if CPU will work at let's say 1.6 GHz instead of 1.4 for a few seconds.
I understand what you're trying to say and I totally agree with you. Most of the changes could be and should be contributed to the base but still most of the devs (including me) wouldn't contribute non-universal device-specific changes.

Better ROM or kernel configuration for games?

Hi, I have a one plus 3t and I would like if someone knows a configuration to play, if it exists or something.
Thank you

As long as the Kernel does not underclock your CPU/GPU for Battery Life, any Kernel/ROM should be fine.

thes3usa said:
As long as the Kernel does not underclock your CPU/GPU for Battery Life, any Kernel/ROM should be fine.
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That's what I would think. The hardware on this phone is killer. Only bettered by Snapdragon 835 phones (or the upcoming phones for this year).
I wonder if the top poster is having a specific issue with games? Or just looking to tweak/overclock, despite no real issues?

redpoint73 said:
That's what I would think. The hardware on this phone is killer. Only bettered by Snapdragon 835 phones (or the upcoming phones for this year).
I wonder if the top poster is having a specific issue with games? Or just looking to tweak/overclock, despite no real issues?
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I'm guessing the latter. He's probably on Stock, and he just wants to know if there's any possibility on increasing Performance in Workloads/Games. Nothing much else.
If he does want some recommendations, Caesium Kernel or ElementalX paired with Stock or a highly AOSP based ROM like NOS should do well. Not that the other Kernels or ROMs will be much different, this is just my experience.

thes3usa said:
I'm guessing the latter. He's probably on Stock, and he just wants to know if there's any possibility on increasing Performance in Workloads/Games. Nothing much else.
If he does want some recommendations, Caesium Kernel or ElementalX paired with Stock or a highly AOSP based ROM like NOS should do well. Not that the other Kernels or ROMs will be much different, this is just my experience.
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right now I am using the z-unleasht, it runs well the games but it was out of curiosity if there was some configuration of Kernel so that it does not drink so much battery and render better

You should try helix engine: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/themes/app-helix-engine-v1-0-beta-3-t3745746/
Then use "AKT balanced" (change in settings). You can choose for every App other profiles -> change it to performance for your games.
Then you have a fast smartphone with great battery life, and performance while gaming.
You need to be rooted

isaac.mesacorpas said:
right now I am using the z-unleasht, it runs well the games but it was out of curiosity if there was some configuration of Kernel so that it does not drink so much battery and render better
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It's not possible to go after battery economy while wanting to perform heavy duty tasks.
It's either one or the other.
Unleashed by my rooted OP3T on 8.0

thanks for the app i am researching to have ..

Hi guys, i have tried many custom kernel such as ElementalX, Flash kernel, Boeffla, Blu_spark, Wolfram..... etc and I still find that my OnePlus 3T can't handle big games..... unstable FPS even at low settings.... and It heats up pretty quick and render the CPU to lower its frequency, etc.....

Help! Why am i facing performance issues with custom roms

Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.

aditya1999 said:
Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
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Mi devices works better with MIUI... That's just the way it is. Custom rom experience on Mi can't compare with the likes of Oneplus, Nexus, or maybe Pixel...
Sent from my MI 5 using Tapatalk

u can install Gcam in miui just use magisk to root and add camera fix module
Gcam will work in miui9
am using los15.1 and most of the apps freezed now its smooth and giving good battery life

All lags, freezes and scroll stutters caused by kernel. All oreo kernels based on HMP scheduling with perf daemon. And don't know why, but it cant provide smooth FPS while ui drawing (maybe some bug with frequency drops). So, 90% roms based on Oreo will lag while drawing UI all time (you can check it in dev settings > Profile GPU Rendering). Some roms trying to avoid this bug, like LOS, AEXMod with some tweaks in governor. This 2 roms much smoother than other. Or you can change default governor from Interactive to Conservative (root required). It brings massive boost on ui drawing smoothness. Or try something based on EAS kernels (Purefusion, JDC AOSP). But these roms based on 8.0 Oreo.

StealthHD said:
All lags, freezes and scroll stutters caused by kernel. All oreo kernels based on HMP scheduling with perf daemon. And don't know why, but it cant provide smooth FPS while ui drawing (maybe some bug with frequency drops). So, 90% roms based on Oreo will lag while drawing UI all time (you can check it in dev settings > Profile GPU Rendering). Some roms trying to avoid this bug, like LOS, AEXMod with some tweaks in governor. This 2 roms much smoother than other. Or you can change default governor from Interactive to Conservative (root required). It brings massive boost on ui drawing smoothness. r try something based on EAS kernels (Purefusion, JDC AOSP). But these roms based on 8.0 Oreo.
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Thanks for a constructive reply. I am not using LOS because of the fingerprint delay bug, also i found LOS to be the laggiest of them all. But i recently installed Cosmic os 8.1, and this one seems to be rendering fine. It is using the priima kernel i suppose, with interactive governors and cfq for io scheduling. Also, i just checked, it has oc'ed the sd820 to normal frequencies (2.15 and .16)
Also, i have tried Floppy kernel, based on all 3, Google, linaro and ubertc. Also, i tried switching the governor to zen(the one i am aware of thats made to make your ui smoother). This issue is not only persistent with oreo roms, but also the nougat roms. But i have been happy and impressed by cosmic, but i will keep on switching roms and hopefully would be able to provide some feedback to the XDA community.

vaisakmct said:
u can install Gcam in miui just use magisk to root and add camera fix module
Gcam will work in miui9
am using los15.1 and most of the apps freezed now its smooth and giving good battery life
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I will try that one. Can you link me to the module thread?

aditya1999 said:
Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
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Absolutely yes! People were blaming me also for using antutu, because I had this doubt, then discovered that the kernel uses a strange sort of cpu scheduler which causes a performance drop of 20/25%, (still can't fix switching performance profile) results were different switching to a custom kernel. I think that people when create new roms they just steal LOS kernel, so that's why this issue occurs in more than one rom.
Anyway I also prefer the stock android camera, and I like to use the "classic" way instead of magisk thing (never liked that), just download GCam, then remove in the framework folder the camera_experimental.jar (or something called like that) and you should be fine, there are some little bugs too but is is usable.

lukypuie said:
Absolutely yes! People were blaming me also for using antutu, because I had this doubt, then discovered that the kernel uses a strange sort of cpu scheduler which causes a performance drop of 20/25%, (still can't fix switching performance profile) results were different switching to a custom kernel. I think that people when create new roms they just steal LOS kernel, so that's why this issue occurs in more than one rom.
Anyway I also prefer the stock android camera, and I like to use the "classic" way instead of magisk thing (never liked that), just download GCam, then remove in the framework folder the camera_experimental.jar (or something called like that) and you should be fine, there are some little bugs too but is is usable.
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So which kernel are you using rn? Cosmic OS comes with the priima kernel, it is the best experience i have had by far. Glad to know i am not the only one suffering stutters, but also kinda disappointed to see this happen.

aditya1999 said:
So which kernel are you using rn? Cosmic OS comes with the priima kernel, it is the best experience i have had by far. Glad to know i am not the only one suffering stutters, but also kinda disappointed to see this happen.
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Yea, me too, and there were people who treated me like crazy lmao, imo is a kernel scheduler issue, btw Idk why that happens , anyway there are plenty of custom kernels, in particular I used Floppy which fixes the problem.(Still need to tweak some kernel governor settings)

lukypuie said:
Yea, me too, and there were people who treated me like crazy lmao, imo is a kernel scheduler issue, btw Idk why that happens , anyway there are plenty of custom kernels, in particular I used Floppy which fixes the problem.(Still need to tweak some kernel governor settings)
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Aye i tried floppy. Didnt quite work for me. Regardless, priima is working fine. I am thinking of switching to other roms. Will try the floppy again, thanks for the advice.

aditya1999 said:
Aye i tried floppy. Didnt quite work for me. Regardless, priima is working fine. I am thinking of switching to other roms. Will try the floppy again, thanks for the advice.
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When i said it needs some tweaks, that is because it works in a strange way, the performance profile in the "Battery" section of LOS needs to be set to something higher, that controls the CPU, meanwhile there I also used an app called "Spectrum" that lets you control the GPU performance profile (Even though it should be control CPU), you need to set all of those to "Balanced"

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When i said it needs some tweaks, that is because it works in a strange way, the performance profile in the "Battery" section of LOS needs to be set to something higher, that controls the CPU, meanwhile there I also used an app called "Spectrum" that lets you control the GPU performance profile (Even though it should be control CPU), you need to set all of those to "Balanced"
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Interesting. I am busy this weekend, but i will surely test this one after i come back.

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aditya1999 said:
Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
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Hello, I have the same problem. My MI 5 only works on miui. Any other newer rom with android Oreo brings me problems, slow looks like snapdragon 4xx. Game performance gets horrible. But they are only in the most recent roms, because in the stable JDC Team 7.1.2 rom it behaves absurdly fluid and fast, in Lineage 14.1 as well. I do not know what causes this but I can not use any more Oreo roms. I prefer Pure Android but can not use the new roms at the moment, I should settle for the nougat or miui roms. Well, I'm not saying that the new roms are bad, the work of the developers is wonderful, congratulations to everyone, but something in the new roms does not behave well.

Colkiese171 said:
Hello, I have the same problem. My MI 5 only works on miui. Any other newer rom with android Oreo brings me problems, slow looks like snapdragon 4xx. Game performance gets horrible. But they are only in the most recent roms, because in the stable JDC Team 7.1.2 rom it behaves absurdly fluid and fast, in Lineage 14.1 as well. I do not know what causes this but I can not use any more Oreo roms. I prefer Pure Android but can not use the new roms at the moment, I should settle for the nougat or miui roms. Well, I'm not saying that the new roms are bad, the work of the developers is wonderful, congratulations to everyone, but something in the new roms does not behave well.
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Try the cosmic os. It seems to be working amazingly well. Also Los never worked for me, full of stutters and the ofc the fingerprint delay on lockscreen issue. Also yeah, jdc aosp should work, in my experiments, all AOSP based roms are working fine, there is some issue with Los kernel, and hence with all roms based off of it.

Xiaomi must optimize the 660 chip.

i bought this phone last week, i am not satisfied with this phone, it gets hot when browsing, lag when playing games(because of the unstable high speed clock), i checked using the aida64 app and the big cores clock speed easily reach 2.2 ghz speed. that was unnecessary, even after turning the battery saver mode, the cores still easily touch 2.2 ghz. i already discussed this on the indonesian mi community, but then i got bullied, people saying it was my fault, not the phone. but there was many thread that complains about lag when playing games and bad battery life. i supose that was because the bad management of cpu cores.
note : i bought this phone in indonesia, with TAM (official) warranty
my rom is currently on the 10.3.6.0(PFGMIXM)
3+32GB model.

Rifaldi34 said:
i bought this phone last week, i am not satisfied with this phone, it gets hot when browsing, lag when playing games(because of the unstable high speed clock), i checked using the aida64 app and the big cores clock speed easily reach 2.2 ghz speed. that was unnecessary, even after turning the battery saver mode, the cores still easily touch 2.2 ghz. i already discussed this on the indonesian mi community, but then i got bullied, people saying it was my fault, not the phone. but there was many thread that complains about lag when playing games and bad battery life. i supose that was because the bad management of cpu cores.
note : i bought this phone in indonesia, with TAM (official) warranty
my rom is currently on the 10.3.6.0(PFGMIXM)
3+32GB model.
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It's very commom for any Snapdragon device to reach top clock speed when in use, download CPU-z and do a little scrolling to see that.
The lag in games you're getting is most probably because of the 3GB RAM of your variant not the CPU as SD660 can handle most mobile games with ease.
About battery life, how much SOT are you getting? RN7 should handle at least 6hrs with some heavy gaming included.
And about temperature, how much degrees is your device peaking at? Anything below 38ºC should be fine.
And lastly, about mi community......well, most people there look like VERY inexperienced users, i wouldn't take them as a parameter to prove your point.

Gonime said:
It's very commom for any Snapdragon device to reach top clock speed when in use, download CPU-z and do a little scrolling to see that.
The lag in games you're getting is most probably because of the 3GB RAM of your variant not the CPU as SD660 can handle most mobile games with ease.
About battery life, how much SOT are you getting? RN7 should handle at least 6hrs with some heavy gaming included.
And about temperature, how much degrees is your device peaking at? Anything below 38ºC should be fine.
And lastly, about mi community......well, most people there look like VERY inexperienced users, i wouldn't take them as a parameter to prove your point.
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3gb of ram is good enough for gaming unless ur playing a heavy game while on youtube and facebook at the same time. the problem with this phone is the aggressive thermal throttling, once the phone reaches 40°c the phone becomes noticeably slower.
my advice to OP is unlock ur bootloader flash some custom rom, custom kernel and root ur device until you find the performance/battery ur looking for.

aron11195 said:
3gb of ram is good enough for gaming unless ur playing a heavy game while on youtube and facebook at the same time. the problem with this phone is the aggressive thermal throttling, once the phone reaches 40°c the phone becomes noticeably slower.
my advice to OP is unlock ur bootloader flash some custom rom, custom kernel and root ur device until you find the performance/battery ur looking for.
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3GB of RAM has not been fine for some time now, there is a lot of games you wouldn't be able to multitask with any other application with only 3GB.
Few examples: TES Blades, Fortnite, PS2 emulation.
Also what are you doing to reach 40° on your device? As for mine never passed 38° and I live in a hot country(Brazil).
I Agree with installing a custom Kernel to improve your performance overall, but right know the best optimized ROM is still MIUI as many threads here suggest.

Gonime said:
3GB of RAM has not been fine for some time now, there is a lot of games you wouldn't be able to multitask with any other application with only 3GB.
Few examples: TES Blades, Fortnite, PS2 emulation.
Also what are you doing to reach 40° on your device? As for mine never passed 38° and I live in a hot country(Brazil).
I Agree with installing a custom Kernel to improve your performance overall, but right know the best optimized ROM is still MIUI as many threads here suggest.
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thats my point, 3gb is enough for games as long as you dont multi task. and this phone is mid range.
im in Philippines, room temperature here is about 37° heavy games like pubg makes my phone temperature skyrocket reaching up to 45° especially with thermal mod.
btw MIUI has the worst ram management for this phone. its closing background apps like no tomorrow, but on any custom rom its actually quite decent.

Rifaldi34 said:
i bought this phone last week, i am not satisfied with this phone, it gets hot when browsing, lag when playing games(because of the unstable high speed clock), i checked using the aida64 app and the big cores clock speed easily reach 2.2 ghz speed. that was unnecessary, even after turning the battery saver mode, the cores still easily touch 2.2 ghz. i already discussed this on the indonesian mi community, but then i got bullied, people saying it was my fault, not the phone. but there was many thread that complains about lag when playing games and bad battery life. i supose that was because the bad management of cpu cores.
note : i bought this phone in indonesia, with TAM (official) warranty
my rom is currently on the 10.3.6.0(PFGMIXM)
3+32GB model.
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Im on the same boat with you bro.
Just Dont bother the hardcore mi fans, especially indonesian mi fans, i know they are jackass sometimes (well Not all of them)
Yes the firmware is really not optimize, battery usage is really inconsistent (typical not optimize firmware)
All we can do is wait for the new OTA.
Strangely the PRO variant get more updated frequently (check official mi website)
But for us indonesian, we are stuck with NON PRO version if we want to use Official waranty hardware.
Good luck

here's how one maximizes their chipsets potential.
1. unlock thy bootloader
2. install custom ROM and kernel
3. ...
4. profit

Gonime said:
It's very commom for any Snapdragon device to reach top clock speed when in use, download CPU-z and do a little scrolling to see that.
The lag in games you're getting is most probably because of the 3GB RAM of your variant not the CPU as SD660 can handle most mobile games with ease.
About battery life, how much SOT are you getting? RN7 should handle at least 6hrs with some heavy gaming included.
And about temperature, how much degrees is your device peaking at? Anything below 38ºC should be fine.
And lastly, about mi community......well, most people there look like VERY inexperienced users, i wouldn't take them as a parameter to prove your point.
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aron11195 said:
3gb of ram is good enough for gaming unless ur playing a heavy game while on youtube and facebook at the same time. the problem with this phone is the aggressive thermal throttling, once the phone reaches 40°c the phone becomes noticeably slower.
my advice to OP is unlock ur bootloader flash some custom rom, custom kernel and root ur device until you find the performance/battery ur looking for.
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Gonime said:
3GB of RAM has not been fine for some time now, there is a lot of games you wouldn't be able to multitask with any other application with only 3GB.
Few examples: TES Blades, Fortnite, PS2 emulation.
Also what are you doing to reach 40° on your device? As for mine never passed 38° and I live in a hot country(Brazil).
I Agree with installing a custom Kernel to improve your performance overall, but right know the best optimized ROM is still MIUI as many threads here suggest.
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aron11195 said:
thats my point, 3gb is enough for games as long as you dont multi task. and this phone is mid range.
im in Philippines, room temperature here is about 37° heavy games like pubg makes my phone temperature skyrocket reaching up to 45° especially with thermal mod.
btw MIUI has the worst ram management for this phone. its closing background apps like no tomorrow, but on any custom rom its actually quite decent.
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sampit76 said:
Im on the same boat with you bro.
Just Dont bother the hardcore mi fans, especially indonesian mi fans, i know they are jackass sometimes (well Not all of them)
Yes the firmware is really not optimize, battery usage is really inconsistent (typical not optimize firmware)
All we can do is wait for the new OTA.
Strangely the PRO variant get more updated frequently (check official mi website)
But for us indonesian, we are stuck with NON PRO version if we want to use Official waranty hardware.
Good luck
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vexa said:
here's how one maximizes their chipsets potential.
1. unlock thy bootloader
2. install custom ROM and kernel
3. ...
4. profit
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Thanks for all your reply, i apreciated it. probably i will wait until miui 11 released, and if the phone still gets hot i will install custom rom and use EX kernel manager to disable input boost and limit the cpu.
for bullying in the mi community, i guess its just troll account ? or the xiaomi guy ? every thread about battery gets bullied by those person only.

5. Find out many bugs and instabilities
6. Start realizing custom roms are not mature yet
7. Go back to stock ROM ?

kennyk09 said:
5. Find out many bugs and instabilities
6. Start realizing custom roms are not mature yet
7. Go back to stock ROM
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not true .. i've been using PE (and revolutionX) and Havoc since mai.
After being on EvolutionX for more than a month, i switched to MIUI EU (coz i missed it) but then went back to trying havoc .. 2 weeks now ZERO problems no heat/lag whatsoever

kennyk09 said:
5. Find out many bugs and instabilities
6. Start realizing custom roms are not mature yet
7. Go back to stock ROM
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ever try miui.eu or masik?
these are very stable, miui-based custom ROMs with zero bloatware and better RAM management.
still a better ROM for people who want better performance / battery life on their xiaomi devices, but too afraid to live on the edge with AOSP ROMs.

AFAIK, that's called thermal-throttle/ing. When RN7 reach its peak performance and certain heat, to prevent overheat normally our device will slowing down its performance and it caused lags and fps drop for sure
I also encounter this problem when playing pubg even with smooth-ultra setting

Rayquaza said:
AFAIK, that's called thermal-throttle/ing. When RN7 reach its peak performance and certain heat, to prevent overheat normally our device will slowing down its performance and it caused lags and fps drop for sure
I also encounter this problem when playing pubg even with smooth-ultra setting
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and thermal throttling can be disabled by using a certain magisk module. although not recommended when ur playing for long period of time. i play max 3hrs highest temperature reached 45°c.

kennyk09 said:
5. Find out many bugs and instabilities
6. Start realizing custom roms are not mature yet
7. Go back to stock ROM
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It happened to me, custom roms aren't good for gaming then switched back to MIUI, when I play phone gets 45 C max, my battery gives 6 hours of straight online gaming, I'm on MIUI Global 10.3.5, Evira kernel 3.8.
:good:

660 wasn't designed for battery efficiency. Still waiting for Franco Kernel, it might fix the issue. My Redmi Note 4x can last up to 10hrs SOT while my Redmi Note 7 can only reach 5hrs even with custom ROM+greenify installed.

The ****tiest phone i ever have, my another phone with 636 even perform better than this. Too many frame drop

rifrish said:
The ****tiest phone i ever have, my another phone with 636 even perform better than this. Too many frame drop
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lol get a good pc if you want to game with high fps.
just bought this phone since my Nexus 6p's battery died and it's really good. im constantly getting up to 10h+ of sot with normal usage.

nardow said:
lol get a good pc if you want to game with high fps.
just bought this phone since my Nexus 6p's battery died and it's really good. im constantly getting up to 10h+ of sot with normal usage.
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Nope. With moderate use I barely get 7, mostly 6. I got this sot by using apps like line, wa, instagram, youtube, browsing, downloading tons of file and one match playing pubg and pes.
I reach 8 to 9 hours sot only if i using wifi and playing videos constantly, minimum social media and no gaming.
Ofc people used their phone different each others. But, im sure they are having same battery drain. People talk about this so many times and everywhere. Ur case having 10+ sot like only happen 1:10 of all lavender users.
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rifrish said:
The ****tiest phone i ever have, my another phone with 636 even perform better than this. Too many frame drop
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Its true continuous gaming on this phone (with stock miui) is bad. You will get smooth gameplay only in short term, like a one match pubg. Then it will start to lag because of heat. We need to keep the phone temp as cool as possible when used for gaming to get less frame drop. Example, playing close to a fan or inside a room with air conditioner on.
Rayquaza said:
AFAIK, that's called thermal-throttle/ing. When RN7 reach its peak performance and certain heat, to prevent overheat normally our device will slowing down its performance and it caused lags and fps drop for sure
I also encounter this problem when playing pubg even with smooth-ultra setting
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Yes, thermal throttle where the main reason. Its limit cpu whenever temp -read by system- reach 43/44 degree. A temp read by system are mostly not indicate the real temp. Besides, we have clockspeed max at 2.2Ghz, making our phone faster to heats up easilly. Thats why thermal throttling the cpu in such early time. (Its ruins gameplay, isnt it? :v)
If we look inside thermal-engine.conf on lavender, it use two sensor for detection and two step for throttling the cpu. First step it will limit clockspeed by 1,5Ghz and 1,9Ghz. Second step it will limit clockspeed by 1,1Ghz and 1,4Ghz. Because the temp gap between these step are only 1°, so mostly thermal-engine will going to limit clockspeed by 1,1Ghz and 1,4Ghz. Imagine play pubg with that clockspeed, lags and frame drop will occurs oftenly.
I've seen Mi 8 Lite with the same chipset playing pubg continously without any frame drop. I took its thermal-engine configuration and compare them with lavender.
Interestingly there are specified profiles for gaming and pubg are missing on lavender. Thus, both thermal-engine are really different. A same chipset should having same thermal at least. But, this show us that lavender thermal thingy are not being optimized yet while mi8 lite does already.
kennyk09 said:
5. Find out many bugs and instabilities
6. Start realizing custom roms are not mature yet
7. Go back to stock ROM
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Lol. Agreed XD
Im gonna Re-Unlock my bootloader for the third times and use custom rom when they fix Hals. Till then i stay on miui hoping miuidev did an improvisation with next update.