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My phone will be here tomorrow and before I open it I wanted to ask a few questions. With the Oneplus 6 looking like it might actually have a decent camera, I am really thinking about not opening the P20 and just selling it as unopened. I am coming from an iPhone X and decided to try an iPhone after waiting forever for updates for every android I have had he past 8 years. It has been 6 months and I have had more than enough of iOS and can't wait to get rid of it....
1) How is Huawei with updates? Better than Samsung? I have read some grumblings that they are not good about fixing issues that are software related...
2)How much of the bloatware is baked in? Can you remove most of it?
3) Are the Huawei versions of the google apps bad? How customizable are they?
I decided to try this phone even though it isn't sold or supported in the US because the pictures I have seen with the camera look great to my eye. One of the few redeeming qualities of the iPhone were the pictures.
1) they are almost like twins with regards on features and updates only difference between s9 plus and p20 pro is if you want camera go p20 pro if performance is important go for s9 plus
2) there is alot of huawei apps but they include google apps as well it really did not bug me when i started using this because you can always hide them , use another launcher to easily find what you really need.
3) huawei apps was created because google apps is banned in china. but me as a google person i just stick with google because everything on my life revolves in google now.
Hello, I just a brand "new" P30 Pro Mystic Blue, and I have a few questions that the community might be able to help me with. Firstly, places like Android Central and other reviewer websites says it has EMUI 10 preinstalled, but mine came with old EMUI 9.1. Are there any other users of the "new" P30 Pro and if so, do you also have EMUI 9.1 installed? Second question is how do I get access to the Beta for EMUI. It does not seem to work for users in the USA, are there any workarounds? Thanks.
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Hello, I just a brand "new" P30 Pro Mystic Blue, and I have a few questions that the community might be able to help me with. Firstly, places like Android Central and other reviewer websites says it has EMUI 10 preinstalled, but mine came with old EMUI 9.1. Are there any other users of the "new" P30 Pro and if so, do you also have EMUI 9.1 installed? Second question is how do I get access to the Beta for EMUI. It does not seem to work for users in the USA, are there any workarounds? Thanks.
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All users have 9. 1 and not 10 cuz Q is not offical yet. There is no workaround for getting beta, u had to register for geting that via ota therefor there is no other method for updating beta. I cant remember is usa listed for country that will be part of beta project, search for that list, it is somewhere on xda.
Ok thanks very much, since there is not any camera improvements with EMUI 10, I guess I'll just wait.
Kirin65 said:
Hello, I just a brand "new" P30 Pro Mystic Blue, and I have a few questions that the community might be able to help me with. Firstly, places like Android Central and other reviewer websites says it has EMUI 10 preinstalled, but mine came with old EMUI 9.1. Are there any other users of the "new" P30 Pro and if so, do you also have EMUI 9.1 installed? Second question is how do I get access to the Beta for EMUI. It does not seem to work for users in the USA, are there any workarounds? Thanks.
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me too i buy the new p30 pro mystic blue Europe Version it's came with EMUI 9.1 Security patch 1 September Not EMUI 10.
I watch in YouTube some video with EMUI 10 i don't know why it's not the same in marketing ???
Will there be a forum for the Galaxy m21s? I don't know in how many countries it was released, but I never saw it being talked about in XDA.
Vsoco said:
Will there be a forum for the Galaxy m21s? I don't know in how many countries it was released, but I never saw it being talked about in XDA.
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Not sure if this helps, but here ya go.
Hi Guys. I need some help with my M21S.
I have two cellphones. A M21S with magisk root and Xiaomi Mi A3 without root.
I bought a sansung tv and I was trying to use the app called "Smart Things" to connect the TV to the smartphone.
The problem is: Xiaomi Mi A3 see the app on play store but M21S dont.
Investigating a little bit about the problem, I saw a lot of users suggesting a lot of thing like clear cache, register my google account again, update my playstore and/or my android.... But nothing works.
Here is the deal: i dont let my android update, at all. I dont like updates. They just slows the cellphone and consume a lot of battery.
After a while, comparing the issue with other issues i Had with Aptoide and APKpure for the last years I realized that the problem is: some apps updates are modifiing by its developers to not work on old versions of android and I realy think this is the problem here.
So, in order to solve the problem I have to update my android. But I Reeeeeeally dont want to do that.
So the question is: is there any way of bypass the version cheking sistem of apps? Or there is a way of solving this problem without updating my android version?
Android Version: 11
One UI Core version: 3.1
Model: galax M21s (SM-F415F)
Thaks a lot.
promised here https://liliputing.com/2021/06/huaweis-3-new-matepad-tablets-run-harmonyos.html
I'm skeptical but that's interesting. I'll have to replace the device anyway this fall (as I need a recent version of Google enterprise services to run on my device) but I suppose it would be nice to have some updates on the P20 Pro if only as a backup device
I already moved on but keeping P20 Pro as backup device (battery replaced). It is very nice form factor, quite light, and camera is still very good even by modern standards. Anyway, will be reading reports of Harmony OS upgrades on P40 with great interest. Not a fan of Huawei UI, but it might be nice to get updates and patches for a 4 year old device
This is good and bad at the same time. On one hand, Huawei has finally adapted a good alternative for android, which means more competition(even if it is a fork). Also we might get Apple-like updates, only time will tell. These updates are opt-in so you are not obligated to use HarmonyOS. On the other hand, you can say goodbye to Google services and any root methods that were possible and not found yet. Huawei"s services are still trash and I fear we won't be able to remove the system apps even with adb. If they pull an ultimatum and allow us to unlock our bootloaders/root our phones.....New OS or not, I am moving to another companies. Maybe Asus/Sony/Xiaomi
Well HarmonyOS really? I don't see a Point Moving to it.. Im more than Happy to use LineageOS 16.0 on it Instead a few Months ago, Well HarmonyOS doesnt Include Google Apps and Kills Root Methods.. well i don't care i will Stick with other Operating Systems on my P20 Pro and will not Go Back to Huawei's Made Software until i will in the Future move to a Different Manufacture (Xiaomi or OnePlus)
In terms of software, I am totally disappointed with Huawei .. also how they Handle the Bootloader Unlock with a code .. Like there is something to hide about EMUI.. sorry but that's ridiculous.
You guys should stop spreading misinformation. P20 Pro came with GMS from the get go. If you upgrade to HarmonyOS on a device that had GMS (officially or LZPlay), GMS will still be totally usable. Even with the final build of HarmonyOS. People already tested this in the betas and final version. Don't believe me? Take a look at this video:
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You guys should stop spreading misinformation. P20 Pro came with GMS from the get go. If you upgrade to HarmonyOS on a device that had GMS (officially or LZPlay), GMS will still be totally usable. Even with the final build of HarmonyOS. People already tested this in the betas and final version. Don't believe me? Take a look at this video:
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It's the first time I see anyone address the fact Harmony might support GMS. I don't think anyone here was knowingly spreading misinformation, but were rather making reasonable assumptions (I also assumed HarmonyOS wouldn't support GMS, even on my P20). I hope what we see in the video carries over to the final version, it would add a couple of years to the life of the phone
I'm not eager to switch from this totally usable(even great!) phone because of the huge slabs the flagship phones have became in the recent years. I'm not really eager to switch to harmony os either, because of the potential gms problem and integration. The only problem I have is the battery doesn't hold as well as it used to, but that is normal, the phone is 3 years old...
Bottom line, I still love it! It's almost a flawless flagship even today(thinking about changing the battery in their service, but it still lasts me a day)
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I'm not eager to switch from this totally usable(even great!) phone because of the huge slabs the flagship phones have became in the recent years. I'm not really eager to switch to harmony os either, because of the potential gms problem and integration. The only problem I have is the battery doesn't hold as well as it used to, but that is normal, the phone is 3 years old...
Born line, I still love it! It's almost a flawless flagship even today(thinking about changing the battery in their service, but it still lasts me a day)
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I agree it's still a serviceable phone, but there are a couple of reasons I will need to jump ship. Lack of a major Android update (we'll be 2 versions behind and my employer doesn't let us keep a phone beyond n-1), and lack of security updates. Locking the bootloader midway through the sales cycle for this phone was a big mistake, it would have been one for the ages.
Guys good news. We gonna get HarmonyOS. Except it will be EMUI 12.
https://www.facebook.com/HUAWEICommunityGlobal/posts/3031974087090494
There is no official coment weather it will be harmony or android yet. Hoping for android...
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There is no official coment weather it will be harmony or android yet. Hoping for android...
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Seeing as we didn't get Android 11 on this phone, I'd be surprised if they provided Android 12. That would be a first, as far as I can tell.
EMUI 12 (beta for now) for older global devices has been confirmed to be Android 10 - based with some bits of HarmonyOS UI code. Nova 9 has been an exception, as it was released with Android 11 - based EMUI 12.x. I highly doubt we will ever get an updated Android 11 - based EMUI 12 on our older devices, when it gets out of Beta.
[EMUI 12] The Taste of HarmonyOS
UPDATE 11/11/2021: EMUI 12 beta program for Mate 40 Pro, P40, P40 Pro, P40 Pro Plus, Mate 30 Pro stared in East Asia and Russia, and now is expanding to some markets in Europe. Download beta app and check if you can participate: https://bit.ly/Bet
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Huawei/comments/qzmn3t
Well, thats mega annoying, had some hope we get a up2date OS once again. Shame on Huawei, after my P20 Pro im done with them for sure too. Not that they restrict Hardware Levels, APIs and so on, but this is too much on top.
Can you record phone calls with this OS?
this morning I received notification that there is update to emui 12.0.0.225, size 4.42GB. downoloading
In Romania too. Not yet on my phone though
not much changed, mostly control center in the shade
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not much changed, mostly control center in the shade
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Yup. I've been using it on my p30pro. Not a spectacular change
Hey Guys,
is there any information on how or when we will receive Andoird 12 instead of small updates for Ocean like every week or two.
Really looking forward to it but couldnt find anything on the internet.
PD2145C_A_5.13.31 is my actual Version
Thanks and cya
F4ISR said:
Hey Guys,
is there any information on how or when we will receive Andoird 12 instead of small updates for Ocean like every week or two.
Really looking forward to it but couldnt find anything on the internet.
PD2145C_A_5.13.31 is my actual Version
Thanks and cya
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Small updates every week or two? PD2145C_A_5.13.31 is more than 6 weeks old, and no Android 12 update on the horizon. The phone is great, but update policy concerning Google major updates is bad, but surprisingly mainly for OriginOS, not for FuntouchOS, which had a Android 12 update months ago.
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Small updates every week or two? PD2145C_A_5.13.31 is more than 6 weeks old, and no Android 12 update on the horizon. The phone is great, but update policy concerning Google major updates is bad, but surprisingly mainly for OriginOS, not for FuntouchOS, which had a Android 12 update months ago.
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not really surprising, since originos is something new they started not so long ago, and are still developing it. They first want it to be stable with the android 11 they started it with, before adding bugs from trying to make it compatible with a new android version
Also OP wrote this post like 4 weeks ago, just saying
Now the latest version is PD2145C_A_5.13.41))
Bye, bye Android 12 and further major updates, another feedback from Vivo Global Support
“OriginOS Ocean is a smartphone operating system that is deeply optimized, customized, and developed based on the Android system. It has independent supporting functions and performance optimization mechanisms, such as: system interface, built-in functions and applications, and interaction methods are all in-depth optimization functions. The functions and interfaces of the native systems are quite different. Due to the different hardware capabilities and configurations of each model, some models will continue to use the original Android version based on comprehensive consideration of operating stability, fluency, and compatibility after each model is upgraded to OriginOS Ocean. No matter what Android version your phone is based on, you can experience the new changes brought by OriginOS Ocean, so please continue to use it with confidence.“
Who the heck needs Android 12 if you have OriginOS Ocean?
Don‘t get me wrong, I am happy with my Vivo X70 Pro+ but why Vivo is promising (three) Android Major Updates for the X70 series but don‘t deliver? Android 13 is coming soon, this is so disappointing for a flagship device.
Origin OS Ocean is simply a skin put on the Android firmware by Vivo. The Vivo X Note that I am using, for example, has the Origin OS Ocean firmware (since it was only released in China and there is no FunTouch global firmware for the Vivo X Note). My phone, however is Android 12, not Android 11.
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Origin OS Ocean is simply a skin put on the Android firmware by Vivo. The Vivo X Note that I am using, for example, has the Origin OS Ocean firmware (since it was only released in China and there is no FunTouch global firmware for the Vivo X Note). My phone, however is Android 12, not Android 11.
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I know the difference between skin and operating system……I am SW-Developer.
It‘s just dissapointing to me that Vivo has such a bad SW update service to there flagship phones. I paid a lot of money and most people around me with much cheaper phones had a Android 12 update month ago. Flagship phones got a update around 6 month ago.
I bought a Vivo X80 Pro for my wife, this is on Android 12. But now I am afraid that this phone will also get no Android major update.
Anyway, it is at it is. But my next phone won‘t be a Vivo anymore, despite the great hardware.
renderjoe said:
I know the difference between skin and operating system……I am SW-Developer.
It‘s just dissapointing to me that Vivo has such a bad SW update service to there flagship phones. I paid a lot of money and most people around me with much cheaper phones had a Android 12 update month ago. Flagship phones got a update around 6 month ago.
I bought a Vivo X80 Pro for my wife, this is on Android 12. But now I am afraid that this phone will also get no Android major update.
Anyway, it is at it is. But my next phone won‘t be a Vivo anymore, despite the great hardware.
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But you do notice a huge difference between your wife's an yours phone? Because I have android 12 on my xiaomi tablet. And as far as I can see it's only about design and no substantial functionality change is made.
And Ocean is all about design itself. Aside great functionality.
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But you do notice a huge difference between your wife's an yours phone? Because I have android 12 on my xiaomi tablet. And as far as I can see it's only about design and no substantial functionality change is made.
And Ocean is all about design itself. Aside great functionality.
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No, the differences are subtle concerning the UX. There are some more detailed settings, nothing really important. But the phone is more energy efficient with Android 12, better battery life and less standby consumption overnight.
But that‘s not the point. If you pay around € 900 for a phone and everybody around you got Android 12 updates for there much cheaper devices you are not satisfied. Especially if the vendor promises contemporary Android Major updates (three for the X70 series).
Let‘s finish this discussion: Vivo X70 Pro+ is a great device (with Android 11). But the update Service for this device doesn‘t satisfy MY expectations.