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some apps requires root for it to works.
We don't know if it will be a locked bootloader. Let's hope it isn't and Moto is keeping to their promise to "work with both parties":
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-well-work-with-developers
I would love to know this too when the information is avaliable, i'm tring to get rid of my iphone to leave the big brother. If moto is going to pulling this crap then i'm going to get a htc or something else.
at&t will probably ask to be locked bootloader since at&t is pure evil
I don't understand why it seems to be such a big deal that Motorola has locked bootloader, since even the Nexus S has one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875580
Is there some sublety I'm missing? Is the "moto lock" harder to bypass than the "Sammy lock"?
What about the ATT and Verizon whole upgrade policy now. What the hell is going on there. i hate these companies
I don't understand why it seems to be such a big deal that Motorola has locked bootloader, since even the Nexus S has one?
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Yes, the "fastboot oem unlock" command only works on select devices mainly the Nexus One and Nexus S (probably a few other ones too like the milestone)
Most other phones have locked down bootloader by the manufacturer and do not unlock in the same way. You can take the Sony Xepria as an example of the worst possible scenario for having a locked phone
If Moto doesn't release the unlocking procedure, it will take time and in some case will not be possible to unlock the device and there won't be any Dev community actively working on the device.
Honestly they should all release the locked & unlocked version. You want peace of mind you get the locked version. You want to risk brick'ing your phone you get the unlocked and the carrier/manufacturer don't not to deal with you.
IMO this is who it should be.
yea..i am excited about this product and posted over in the Gtab forum (since Gtab is the WHOLE of my android experience being a 2+year iphone user)...and immediately was told "nope, not going to get one as it will most likely be locked".
Understood and appreciated but...
Well...look, i don't mind locked if the darn thing ships with working software and has at least 90% of the functionality i want out of the box. For example..as boring as the iphone has gotten, it works so i am ok with it being a walled garden.
In the case of the Gtab, its VERY intensively being rooted and and thats a good thing..because it was A NON FUNCTIONAL pos out of the box so modding it was a MUST.
Likewise if the Atrix works well out of the box ill be fine with it..if it doesnt work so great and is locked down..i either wont be buying one or ill be taking it back within the 3 day period.....
We will see i guess as i am kinda tired of how limited the iphone really is. I want an SD card and the ability to side load working stuff without using itunes. I want an HDMI output that i can watch movies on the hotel flat screen tvs just by plugging in my phone to it. I want to be able to get lap top functionality and/or use it as a mobile hot spot. I want to be able to hack in and get full use of tv.com and hulu. I want my sling box to work. I want to stream blue tooth to my car along with pandora and have blue tooth head phone funcionality, i want lots of cool easy to get and use apps. I want something i can get a keyboard to for content creation or at least give me a slide out keyboard (lets face it, touch screen is not as good for creating content no matter HOW good you are at the onscreen touch style key pads).
The atrix looks to fit the bill where as my Gtab is having to pull %75 of what i WISH my iphone could do for me (netflix being the exception of something my iphone does, that droid wont do). But for watching movies/tv, pluggin in a key board and typing, and surfing on a larger touch screen i could not be happier and am glad i avoided an ipad......I would also like better MS office/exchange support but think the atrix is an over all better solution than going with a win7 phone just for that one piece of the picture...
The hardware is there...the connectivity is there. It is 100% all going to come down to software and execution to determine if this thing is the solution i hope it will be versus a complete waste of time and energy (in which case it's... Samsung Infuse vs an HTC ((and continuing using the gtab )) i guess....)....
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Yea, and installing apps from other than the market probably wont be allowed either.
Luckily that was all easy to fix on the Galaxy S, it was so easy to be rooted and load custom ROMS. Heck, there was a root procedure out for it before it was even released officially.
I'm with Allen. As long as it works, little need to mod it anyway.
The only mod that is a must is rooting to simply remove all the ATT junk.
But how can you remove system data( Att junk) if you can not have r/w access to system.
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I'm with Allen. As long as it works, little need to mod it anyway.
The only mod that is a must is rooting to simply remove all the ATT junk.
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But how can you remove system data( Att junk) if you can not have r/w access to system.
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He said the only thing you need is root.
Nah, root and rom allows you to make it your *****. Otherwise your just dryhumping. Let us hope the smart guys make progress on this. I will not buy any phone that does not have developer support here. That one thing gives a phone a lot of extra legs and everything between here and end of life is the better for it. I'm a shoe in to buy this one if there are no other more worthy hardware options coming soon but I'll stick with my N1 if it cant be made to raise the whit flag until the next thing comes. XDA developer support IS NOT OPTIONAL!
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Nah, root and rom allows you to make it your *****. Otherwise your just dryhumping. Let us hope the smart guys make progress on this. I will not buy any phone that does not have developer support here. That one thing gives a phone a lot of extra legs and everything between here and end of life is the better for it. I'm a shoe in to buy this one if there are no other more worthy hardware options coming soon but I'll stick with my N1 if it cant be made to raise the whit flag until the next thing comes. XDA developer support IS NOT OPTIONAL!
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lmao ditto on all accounts!
Agreed. I sincerely hope moto doesn't bone us. Although i'm confused. from what I read the Droid X had a huge hullaballo about the efuse, however i've also read that there's no efuse with the tegra2, and the Droid X has custom roms. So what would a locked bootloader be? Are people referring to and "unlockable" locked bootloader?
I just want to see if the Atrix has wifi tether out of the box or if i'll have to *****-mount some other solution (IE; PDAnet). I really hope it either is out of the box or someone gets it running shortly after. PdaNet just did not seem to get on well with my ipad, and my captivate and streak both worked extremely well with the one built into 2.2
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Agreed. I sincerely hope moto doesn't bone us. Although i'm confused. from what I read the Droid X had a huge hullaballo about the efuse, however i've also read that there's no efuse with the tegra2, and the Droid X has custom roms. So what would a locked bootloader be? Are people referring to and "unlockable" locked bootloader?
I just want to see if the Atrix has wifi tether out of the box or if i'll have to *****-mount some other solution (IE; PDAnet). I really hope it either is out of the box or someone gets it running shortly after. PdaNet just did not seem to get on well with my ipad, and my captivate and streak both worked extremely well with the one built into 2.2
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Custom roms built on motorola's kernels. That's the big thing turn off with the DX/2/2Global/Milestone/everything besides the OG Droid.
That does make sense. But can a custom rom built on motos kernel enable items like wifi tether?
I doubt ATT will alow wifi tether out the box unless they can control it and charge you for it
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I doubt ATT will alow wifi tether out the box unless they can control it and charge you for it
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That I understand, even expect. However my streak and captivate were able to get it via roms, I was curious if that will be possible with a locked bootloader on the atrix. I'm not overly familiar with the development scene beyond loading roms and flashing kernals (ie I can do it but couldn't make my own). So I don't know if being limited to the moto kernal would restrict you from having wifi tether and was hoping someone more experienced could answer that one.
I think yes..
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That does make sense. But can a custom rom built on motos kernel enable items like wifi tether?
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At least for Milestone is Ok, nadlabak CM6 for example work really fine regarding tethering (USB and WiFi)
Let's hope a master piece like Atrix could be rooted and improved (if that's possible)
I have been patiently waiting on Custom Roms on 2nd Gen devices such as our Focus S. Just wanting to know if anyone is still looking into this. Thanks for your help.
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I have been patiently waiting on Custom Roms on 2nd Gen devices such as our Focus S. Just wanting to know if anyone is still looking into this. Thanks for your help.
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im not entirely sure that development even started for the focus s
which is a shame as its a beast of a device, ive asked questions to the gods that be on XDA dev to see if they could even point us In the right direction to playing with this amazing device, unfortunately they have all ignored me.
So I believe as it stands, they don't want to do anything with it as its got a very small user base, and they dnt want to help us so we can do it either.
but still, least its interop unlocked and unlock tools works with it!
This makes me deeply sad inside. It is a sensation like the one you feel when seeing a perfectly good cake being thrown in the garbage.
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This makes me deeply sad inside. It is a sensation like the one you feel when seeing a perfectly good cake being thrown in the garbage.
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tell me about it!
I know everyone is very busy, so I made it clear I wasn't asking for them to do anything but point us in the right direction to see what can be achieved, I get the feeling what ever it is that they do is some closely guarded secrete that us lesser mortals are not supposed to know.
Glad I'm not alone
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tell me about it!
I know everyone is very busy, so I made it clear I wasn't asking for them to do anything but point us in the right direction to see what can be achieved, I get the feeling what ever it is that they do is some closely guarded secrete that us lesser mortals are not supposed to know.
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I am to scared to do the Samsung Update in fear of losing my unlock access. I guess I will be going to the Nokia 920 because I think the user base will be large. This device has been solid for me besides the speaker his when I take a picture.
If the device is fully functional, an you make a backup, applying the Samsung update is fine, but make sure you re apply the relock prevent app, id also strongly suggest you try to restore a backup image as well just to make sure it works!. So make a backup, copy it to a safe location, install some app, then restore your backup, the app you installed should be gone!if that works double check your still interop unlocked, apply Samsung update, DO NOT lose your previous backup an do not apply any OS updates to your phone with out first restoring to your backup! IE remove the Samsung update first!
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Can someone tell me what good does the Samsung update do to the phone? I just want to know if it's worth the trouble.
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hienkhieu said:
Can someone tell me what good does the Samsung update do to the phone? I just want to know if it's worth the trouble.
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you can open it up and take a look for your self, to be honest, there is only a couple of noticeable reasons for doing so, the biggie is the keyboard lag issues, there is also an increase in audio volume. looking at the files, it also updates the ROM its self, so hard resets will give you tango rather than Mango
(NOTE_resettng is a really bad idea, if you reset your device, you probably wont be able to restore from a backup and you may end up stuck with it being locked!)
drivers and some apps receive updates.
To be honest, i wouldn't bother, unless the keyboard lag issue is too much for you ( kinda fixable if you turn off keyboard sounds) or the audio is too low an the popping drives you mad, the whole thing feels better but its marginal at best.
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you can open it up and take a look for your self, to be honest, there is only a couple of noticeable reasons for doing so, the biggie is the keyboard lag issues, there is also an increase in audio volume. looking at the files, it also updates the ROM its self, so hard resets will give you tango rather than Mango
(NOTE_resettng is a really bad idea, if you reset your device, you probably wont be able to restore from a backup and you may end up stuck with it being locked!)
drivers and some apps receive updates.
To be honest, i wouldn't bother, unless the keyboard lag issue is too much for you ( kinda fixable if you turn off keyboard sounds) or the audio is too low an the popping drives you mad, the whole thing feels better but its marginal at best.
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Thanks for your quick reply. The reason I asked because I could not find the info anywhere.
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Thanks for your quick reply. The reason I asked because I could not find the info anywhere.
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no worries mate
I bought an HTC Desire 510 few months ago cause my Xperia ARC died (was the best phone I ever had).
Now I am very disappointed with the HTC 510, mainly cause of it's awful operating system bundled by google ALL OVER the place
The user interface is a one big disaster, so much annoying and unnecessary stuff... besides the annoying bloatware (parental control app? srsly?)
I really wanna root this phone and change it's OS to those similar of gingerbreed, cyanogen etc but I don't know how to do this with my current phone
and don't even know what custom operating systems are available for the model I have.
What annoys me about the user interface:
*Often lowers the earphone music volume without my permission then gives me this annoying warning that making it higher will damage my hearing - srsly?
*Screen tends to lower it's lighting and back again by itself while I use the phone
*A button at the bottom of the menu that looks like a "home logo" will open somekind of useless google page each time I drag that button up by mistake.
*Terrible and irremovable Gallery app, not to mention it displays images in uncomfortable way, it also features a slideshow which often plays automatically without me asking it to each time I enter a photo album.
*Poorly made irremovable alarm clock app
*Other forced google apps installed on my phone which i don't use and can't just get rid of
*Bad just bad option of organizing apps, well for me atleast, back on my Xperia ARC I used to organize my apps by "commonly used apps" feature, went great, here it's just wacky, it doesn't do it automatically after you set it to organize the following way. So I find myself surfing through all the useless apps to find the app I need at the app menu.
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
horrific google product
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Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
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VigiDroid said:
Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
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Beggars can't be choosers. Of course this person is trying to be both.
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
I bought an HTC Desire 510
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?
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Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!
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Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!
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I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
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Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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All I can say (and I never said it was easy) is for you to subscribe to all of the HTC 510 Forums and start reading thru the threads. In your case, the most helpful one being this one..."Help & Troubleshooting" if you can not find answers to your particular questions then I would assume that means we just aren't there yet. This is a pretty new device after all. I wouldnt know about themes being I am on custom ROM and that is not an option. You should maybe go for the Unlock and root your phone method. Try out some of the ROMs available. I believe that will alleviate many of your issues since the stock ROM that came with these units have multiple issues. Many of them are the same ones you are experiencing. I wish you well and Read, Read, Read.
Good Luck
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Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now? I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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You should definitely read through the forums if you haven't so far. I have read/skimmed every thread here about our phone and I almost have no questions or concerns except for some ideas for a couple of issues that haven't been brought up yet or just not yet done.
I only use Sense Home or Dodol Launcher and they both don't have the option to sort by last used, check out Nova, Apex, or some other launcher.
As far as the update is concerned, you can follow this post by LarryBoyG, if you plan to stay on stock. I'm sure a custom ROM will be built that includes the update, unless everyone just wants to wait for Lollipop.
Hi all,
So I was testing the GN5 and came across a built-in permission manager first thing. Didn't think much of it I mean yes it's a very nice feature and all but then after I had to return the phone, I looked for other references to it online but couldn't find any. It's not available on the Galaxy A8 that's for sure.
So I'm just looking for confirmation that it does indeed exist on every other GN5 out there..
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Hi all,
So I was testing the GN5 and came across a built-in permission manager first thing. Didn't think much of it I mean yes it's a very nice feature and all but then after I had to return the phone, I looked for other references to it online but couldn't find any. It's not available on the Galaxy A8 that's for sure.
So I'm just looking for confirmation that it does indeed exist on every other GN5 out there..
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i can't find it on my note5 N920I so if you could describe how to access it that would be nice
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i can't find it on my note5 N920I so if you could describe how to access it that would be nice
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Should've noted that down... but it pops up by itself either before or after download. Didn't need to set anything before hand. Will see if I can dig up the rom info too... it was a test unit for HK
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yellowchilli said:
Hi all,
So I was testing the GN5 and came across a built-in permission manager first thing. Didn't think much of it I mean yes it's a very nice feature and all but then after I had to return the phone, I looked for other references to it online but couldn't find any. It's not available on the Galaxy A8 that's for sure.
So I'm just looking for confirmation that it does indeed exist on every other GN5 out there..
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That's the only reason I miss aosp or root for. How do you get that? Is it third party app or what? Seems like test build samsung has around for android M update coming soon to note 5.
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Does the phone runs on android 6.0 by any chance?
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He probably came across a test phone of some sort - with Android 6.0
Android definitely needs something like this...
I hate downloading apps that need random permissions for things (Like a photo editor that needs to read my SMS messages) - It creeps me out and is just weird. I'm sure some permissions are innocent and others are malicious.
This feature will definitely help Android!
fail..... of all the screenshots I took I forgot to take one of the build info. is there anywhere on google that might store that? I already checked Play store.. that only remembers my model number.
on my GN5 it was built in. I was setting it up from scratch, installing new apps etc.
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He probably came across a test phone of some sort - with Android 6.0
Android definitely needs something like this...
I hate downloading apps that need random permissions for things (Like a photo editor that needs to read my SMS messages) - It creeps me out and is just weird. I'm sure some permissions are innocent and others are malicious.
This feature will definitely help Android!
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yup I was surprised to see it. I'll see if I can clarify with my PR contact...
I've got Android M on my Nexus 6 and that was pretty buggy. Samsung would've needed a miracle to put their touchwiz on it and maintain such stability at this time so that's highly unlikely.
I am pretty sure that ROM wasn't a 6.0 test rom, but just something Samsung cooked into the Chinese (and HK) ROM... already seen it in some Chinese N9200 before... Could be something unique to said variant, or could be something that can be triggered by change of build file...
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I am pretty sure that ROM wasn't a 6.0 test rom, but just something Samsung cooked into the Chinese (and HK) ROM... already seen it in some Chinese N9200 before... Could be something unique to said variant, or could be something that can be triggered by change of build file...
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Well lg g4 had it cooked un and you could access it by creating widget of activities and sellecting permissions settings but I am not able to find it on this phone
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this function exist in Note 5 Hong Kong version... it will pop out everytime when you install an app.
thank you for clarifying this!
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this function exist in Note 5 Hong Kong version... it will pop out everytime when you install an app.
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Can't wait to get that feature!
Flash Ditto Rom for N5, you will have this feature without Hongkong CSC
Zanr Zij said:
Flash Ditto Rom for N5, you will have this feature without Hongkong CSC
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No root for my Note 5 lol
I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
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I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
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Well I found this http://www.rootupdate.com/2016/08/root-samsung-galaxy-note-7-without-pc.html?m=1 and it says Chainfire has a root file for it. It doesn't specify the carrier or anything but there's hope I guess
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Well I found this http://www.rootupdate.com/2016/08/root-samsung-galaxy-note-7-without-pc.html?m=1 and it says Chainfire has a root file for it. It doesn't specify the carrier or anything but there's hope I guess
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yep i hope its that easy lol
i'm going to guess the bootloader is locked like the s7 edge. hopefully it's not too long before we have a exploit to root.
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I've been away from android for about 2 years but the note 7 had me wanting to make a move back currently rocking the iPhone 6s+ jailbroken. And everything that I have seen about the iPhone 7 has not impressed me at all and with it looking to NOT have a headphone jack .. thats a no go for me .
Im asking if anyone has a clue if the phone will be rootable in order to be able to remove the bloat and KNOT ( I think that what its called ) security
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It's called KNOX, also you don't need root to remove bloat on android 5+. Some will argue for space purposes but the system parition is just that, chances are if you simply cannot uninstall and you have to disable, then the application resides in the system parition. Deleting app in the system partion creates no more useable user space.
As far as Knox, what makes you want to remove it?
I'm waiting to see before buying
With the evolution technology and the reliance on mobile devices, Having KNOX is not as bad as it seems, the piece of mind knowing I have access to defense grade mobile security is great for a business and general security aspect. which goes far past fingerprints and basic passwords. Just my opinion....
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With the evolution technology and the reliance on mobile devices, Having KNOX is not as bad as it seems, the piece of mind knowing I have access to defense grade mobile security is great for a business and general security aspect. which goes far past fingerprints and basic passwords. Just my opinion....
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The golden question is, is there a back door to the iron gates of KNOX? On the front end it can be encrypted to the moon and back, but if there is a back door, it's pointless. Also with finger print scanners and the iris scanner. What a convenient way to capture personal data. Let the people do the work for them...brilliant.
I'm curious to hear what Dev's that know the in's and out's of the software have to say about this...The only way we'd be able to know for sure is if it was fully open source to be able to see any hidden doors and where they exist.
Just saying...
Oh and I do hope someone finds an exploit to be able to stably root.
I keep coming back to these threads day after day, fingers crossed. I can't stomack paying $900 for a device that I don't have full control over. Might as well by an iPhone with the better OS with the way Samsung is moving.
Just does not make any sense to increase the price for less functionality
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I keep coming back to these threads day after day, fingers crossed. I can't stomack paying $900 for a device that I don't have full control over. Might as well by an iPhone with the better OS with the way Samsung is moving.
Just does not make any sense to increase the price for less functionality
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So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
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So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
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xposed installer that's one
Kind of crazy to decide to buy or not buy a phone because of an ap that doesn't even come installed on the phone. IN any event, if ROOT is found for the Note 7 - then you can install Xposed)
Chances are very high that the US Varients of the Note 7 are all going to be locked. I will be shocked if TMOBILE does not lock down the Note 7 like they did on the S7 (well if you listen to TMOBILE they say Samsung locked it - not tmobile) whatever, my bet is it is going to be locked.
In any event, the Note 7 is going to be a beast of a phone - just like the S7 Edge -BUT, not much different than the 7 Edge - a little larger - slightly better camera - S Pen of course - but otherwise, not a whole lot different - that is probably the main reason why I am struggling with whether to buy or not - I played with one at Best Buy the other day and I like the feel of Note 7 a lot - the curved screen is slightly different than the S7 Edge - but it still looks amazing - not sure what I am going to do.....we'll see....I love new toys - for that reason alone, I will probably end up getting it - but still havent made a final decision....I will NOT buy a pre-order like I have done with every other phone since the note 2 - I got burned when the S7 Edge turned out to be locked and I am not going to risk that again ...we'll find out soon enough...
Yea it sure is a toss up at this point and Samsung if you are listening, you are not doing yourself a favor for locking boot loaders. You don't have to worry about anything, because you'll still make the sales off of the majority who don't care about unlocked BL's, but one thing that you do have to understated is that although the phone enthusiasts may make up a small percentage, we are the ones who are responsible for making up the foundation of the phone customizing culture. You are on the edge and about to lower yourself into the apple territory. Don't do that.
S7 and S7 edge both not rootable?
vibrantliker said:
S7 and S7 edge both not rootable?
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They are rooted at the moment...
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA-Developers mobile app
Would a root for the Note 7 cause the iris / finger scanner & Pay apps to stop working or is that just for samsung pay? I ordered my Note 7 yesterday knowing that I probably won't see root for a while, but I don't know if it's worth it if root breaks some of the other functions. At least for me...
mister_propa said:
xposed installer that's one
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Xposed is hardly a reason to make the low fruit argument of it might as well be an apple if you can't root it. The fact that I can upload whatever files I want, I can OTG connect keyboards, mice, thumbdrives, expandable memory was brought back, replacement launchers, I can install apps outside of the market, disabled built in software, change what app handles your messages.
Inherently there is so much more flexibility in android. You could drop android back two version numbers and functionality still holds its own against iOS today
All that happens before root.
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coretech said:
Would a root for the Note 7 cause the iris / finger scanner & Pay apps to stop working or is that just for samsung pay? I ordered my Note 7 yesterday knowing that I probably won't see root for a while, but I don't know if it's worth it if root breaks some of the other functions. At least for me...
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If its like the Note 5 when it comes to root (if you can) then it will only kill Samsung Pay. Of course there were other devices (S5/6?) that lost finger print scanning because of the root method. We kind of just have to wait and see.
bajasur said:
They are rooted at the moment...
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I don't see any roms for them on XDA (T-Mob)
clockedtouch said:
So what do you consider "less functionality" just curious ......
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I know you weren't talking to me but in my own personal opinion "less functionality" (A.k.a. without root)
means
I cannot control the CPU frequency or GPU, or the governor.
I cannot change the boot animation
I cannot use xposed
I cannot do whatever I want
I cannot tweak what I want for better performance or battery life
I cannot have custom ROMs
I cannot be able to show off my device like "I got root!"
I cannot disable some of the bloat ware that the system does not let me disable by default
I cannot calm my "they are spying on me" by uninstalling sketchy as hell apps or useless that just drain my battery
I cannot not just be bored and test out a **** load of ROMs or Root applications
I cannot have my snapchat mods/hacks
I cannot (Before I actually got YouTube Red) use xposed to make YouTube play in the background
I cannot decompile system applications and re-write some of it or re-theme it and then put it on my phone
I cannot be nerdy and make my my device seem like a samsung s5 or whatever other device I want by changing things such as the model ID and such
I cannot change my IMEI when I don't want to call MetroPCS but I need to test a different SIM card
I cannot have Automatic call recording (Or call recording at all, on stock without root)
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And so much more but then I realized this post is going to get too long and time consuming
TL;DR:
Root is a requirement in my eyes.
vibrantliker said:
I don't see any roms for them on XDA (T-Mob)
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Andrew S.S. said:
I know you weren't talking to me but in my own personal opinion "less functionality" (A.k.a. without root)
means
I cannot control the CPU frequency or GPU, or the governor.
I cannot change the boot animation
I cannot use xposed
I cannot do whatever I want
I cannot tweak what I want for better performance or battery life
I cannot have custom ROMs
I cannot be able to show off my device like "I got root!"
I cannot disable some of the bloat ware that the system does not let me disable by default
I cannot calm my "they are spying on me" by uninstalling sketchy as hell apps or useless that just drain my battery
I cannot not just be bored and test out a **** load of ROMs or Root applications
I cannot have my snapchat mods/hacks
I cannot (Before I actually got YouTube Red) use xposed to make YouTube play in the background
I cannot decompile system applications and re-write some of it or re-theme it and then put it on my phone
I cannot be nerdy and make my my device seem like a samsung s5 or whatever other device I want by changing things such as the model ID and such
I cannot change my IMEI when I don't want to call MetroPCS but I need to test a different SIM card
I cannot have Automatic call recording (Or call recording at all, on stock without root)
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And so much more but then I realized this post is going to get too long and time consuming
TL;DR: I need root! I cannot live without it and unless you taste and eat the delicious glory(root) as much as I do, you wouldn't understand.
Root is a requirement in my eyes.
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Listing all the things you can do with root is great but my gripe is the claim of "It might as well be an iPhone" when you can't root it. Thats a very low energy argument.