I had a P30 pro briefly at launch but only just picked one up again. My motivation was that outside the current iPhone and 4 XL it should be the next best camera (and in some areas better)
The thing is so far it is massively disappointing, night mode especially actually to the point where I am starting to wonder if I have a faulty device. So far night mode shots are really not that impressive and absolutely worse than the S10+ and Mate 20 pro and not even in the vicinity of the 4 XL or iPhone which I was not expecting at all.
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I had a P30 pro briefly at launch but only just picked one up again. My motivation was that outside the current iPhone and 4 XL it should be the next best camera (and in some areas better)
The thing is so far it is massively disappointing, night mode especially actually to the point where I am starting to wonder if I have a faulty device. So far night mode shots are really not that impressive and absolutely worse than the S10+ and Mate 20 pro and not even in the vicinity of the 4 XL or iPhone which I was not expecting at all.
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Post some sample shots?
This is not scientific at all but I'd qualify this by saying that I was a professional photographer in a previous life so like to think that I understand lighting.
As I say not scientific and I've to been able to shoot them side by side, #1 is the p30 pro #2 the 4xl in arguably lower light.
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I am not a heavy night mode user, but yesterday I notice some kind of violet like fog in a couple of pics taken without touching settings. There was no visible fog in the sky but it was very visible in all pictures taken to the sky or the road in front of me.
I don't use night mode at all unless I need a full exposed shot of the entire scene. P30 pro has 500k ISO and you can maximize it's high ISO capability when you tap on the dark portion of the scene to properly expos it without the need of using night mode
I noticed that Night mode is actually same as just taking a photo. Literally you hold phone still for 6 seconds, and you get the same result as when you just tap and shoot in auto mode.
Something must be wrong there..
The difference is subtle between night mode and photo mode. You capture more detail and dynamic range in night mode. Especially if you set the ISO value low. But the difference is hard to see on the phone screen. On a desktop computer, it's quite dramatic. So no need to mess with night mode if your pics will only be viewed on your phone and posted to social media.
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I noticed that Night mode is actually same as just taking a photo. Literally you hold phone still for 6 seconds, and you get the same result as when you just tap and shoot in auto mode.
Something must be wrong there..
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If you looked at the (i) info for each photo you'd see there is a big difference in how it takes the shot / settings used, for one thing normal auto mode you do not need to hold the phone still for X seconds...
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I had a P30 pro briefly at launch but only just picked one up again. My motivation was that outside the current iPhone and 4 XL it should be the next best camera (and in some areas better)
The thing is so far it is massively disappointing, night mode especially actually to the point where I am starting to wonder if I have a faulty device. So far night mode shots are really not that impressive and absolutely worse than the S10+ and Mate 20 pro and not even in the vicinity of the 4 XL or iPhone which I was not expecting at all.
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Sample?
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There are a couple of photos further up.
I did some further tests vs. P4 Xl and s10+ and think the p30 is better most of the time BUT that when there is any movement at all the pixel is better.
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There are a couple of photos further up.
I did some further tests vs. P4 Xl and s10+ and think the p30 is better most of the time BUT that when there is any movement at all the pixel is better.
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your seriously think those pics you posted will aid anyone here? When comparing photos, try to use the same framed shot.
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I have to strongly disagree about night mode. I got my p30 pro yesterday and HAD to test night mode. It was very dark and the pic looks as if I took it during the day.. just WOW...so kool! I love this phone. The battery charged 100% the next morning %99. Then use it off and on and right now %91. I again LOVE this phone.
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What settings does everyone use for low lighting shots, as in outside in the dark, usually of people no more than 4 foot away?? Its bonfire night here in the UK and taking photos of friends outside at night time, the photo quality was terrible. I tried in superior auto and using manual, but no luck. I then used my friends iPhone 4S not even the 5, and it put mine to shame, this is a brand new flagship phone we are talking about here!!
Please help, as I love this phone but the camera in these situations really lets me down.
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What settings does everyone use for low lighting shots, as in outside in the dark, usually of people no more than 4 foot away?? Its bonfire night here in the UK and taking photos of friends outside at night time, the photo quality was terrible. I tried in superior auto and using manual, but no luck. I then used my friends iPhone 4S not even the 5, and it put mine to shame, this is a brand new flagship phone we are talking about here!!
Please help, as I love this phone but the camera in these situations really lets me down.
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Try manual mode, ISO 200 or 400 and +0.5 of ev
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What settings does everyone use for low lighting shots, as in outside in the dark, usually of people no more than 4 foot away?? Its bonfire night here in the UK and taking photos of friends outside at night time, the photo quality was terrible. I tried in superior auto and using manual, but no luck. I then used my friends iPhone 4S not even the 5, and it put mine to shame, this is a brand new flagship phone we are talking about here!!
Please help, as I love this phone but the camera in these situations really lets me down.
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Timeshift burst also seems to work well in certain low light conditions.
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Timeshift burst also seems to work well in certain low light conditions.
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Hi All!
I just got my phone, and since I am not accustomed to android, I seem to be having something of an issue with the camera.
If I disable flash and take photos, they all come out great. If flash is on however, then I have a white haze over my picture. Manual/Superior Auto, it doesn't matter! I also changed the White Balance, the ISO, etc.. as has been suggested here, but to no avail!! Be it day, or be it night, it doesn't matter either!!
Can someone please help?
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Hi All!
I just got my phone, and since I am not accustomed to android, I seem to be having something of an issue with the camera.
If I disable flash and take photos, they all come out great. If flash is on however, then I have a white haze over my picture. Manual/Superior Auto, it doesn't matter! I also changed the White Balance, the ISO, etc.. as has been suggested here, but to no avail!!
Can someone please help?
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Do you have some sort of protector at the back looks like light is reflected?
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Do you have some sort of protector at the back looks like light is reflected?
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Ooh... Yes, that could be the problem. Thing is, its the default cover that Sony gave me, and until I get a new one, I can't see for certain if thats the troublemaker. But you must be right. If I put my fingers as close to the lens, then I get a pinkish haze. LOL. Sony's cover is a huge letdown.
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What settings does everyone use for low lighting shots, as in outside in the dark, usually of people no more than 4 foot away?? Its bonfire night here in the UK and taking photos of friends outside at night time, the photo quality was terrible. I tried in superior auto and using manual, but no luck. I then used my friends iPhone 4S not even the 5, and it put mine to shame, this is a brand new flagship phone we are talking about here!!
Please help, as I love this phone but the camera in these situations really lets me down.
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Try ISO 1600 & 3200 or set the scene to ISO High sensitivity. And make sure that you have the latest firmware.
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I would not use iso 6400, ussely the higher the iso number the higher the noise in a picture. Low light is always a problem with cameras even slr.
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Found a decent solution, 8mp 4:3 manual mode with hdr on, scene off and all other settings auto seems to be okay indoor and in low light.
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the sensor is made for low-light-conditions^^
here is a photo made in dark (discothek). its not only sharp in the focused area, its also bright enought ^^
Iso 400 1/32 sec. 20,7mp flash: on iso: average (or how its called in english)
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the sensor is made for low-light-conditions^^
here is a photo made in dark (discothek). its not only sharp in the focused area, its also bright enought ^^
Iso 400 1/32 sec. 20,7mp flash: on iso: average (or how its called in english)
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Yes this is a decent shot, but the subject is quite close so the flash has allowed him to be in focus. In superior auto mode however some of my shots wer awful, and when you open the camera app using the short cut from the lock screen it automatically goes into this mode, sometimes you haven't got time to mess around with the settings to catch the perfect shot
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I use "night portrait" scene and it gives the best images in low light conditions with minimum noise
I remember during the Idol 3 launch that there were issues initially (DTTW not working, snapchat bugs, etc) that were addressed in subsequent updates. These things were swept under the rug for reviewers but for people who actually owned the phone, they were able to benefit.
Currently my main concern is the camera and I was curious if anyone has heard any news on Alcatel working to try and improve the OIS or low-light capabilities via software (if that is even possible).
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I remember during the Idol 3 launch that there were issues initially (DTTW not working, snapchat bugs, etc) that were addressed in subsequent updates. These things were swept under the rug for reviewers but for people who actually owned the phone, they were able to benefit.
Currently my main concern is the camera and I was curious if anyone has heard any news on Alcatel working to try and improve the OIS or low-light capabilities via software (if that is even possible).
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I don't have this exactly device, but I have the twin brother (Vodafone Smart Platinum 7) and I wrote to a Vodafone customer manager about this.
They told me they will talk with the people in the software department, and maybe in a future they can improve a little the software, but the lack of hardware can't be fixed with software.
My main complain was that the photos most of the time are blurry when trying to see the details, and that we have no stabilization for 60fps and 2K-4K.
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I don't have this exactly device, but I have the twin brother (Vodafone Smart Platinum 7) and I wrote to a Vodafone customer manager about this.
They told me they will talk with the people in the software department, and maybe in a future they can improve a little the software, but the lack of hardware can't be fixed with software.
My main complain was that the photos most of the time are blurry when trying to see the details, and that we have no stabilization for 60fps and 2K-4K.
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Thanks. I've heard good things about the Vodafone version. I currently have the Idol 3, and coming from the Nexus 4 before that, it was a big improvement in terms of photo quality. I've been using my Idol 3 for photos a lot recently and although it is great for well-lit, non-moving objects, I have become more aware of the lower quality pics in low-light and blurry pics in general when there is slight movement. I think the Idol 4S is a step up in terms of quality but still leaves something to be desired overall.
Recently I ended up getting a reasonably-priced digital camera which takes great photos. It really illustrated how good a camera can be. I might just get the Idol 4S and carry my digital camera with me for special occasions.
Updated yesterday to version 010 02 with the august security patches with the Mobile Upgrade Q desktop programm. Camera seems better imo opinion (at least with sufficient light!) and overall performance seems faster and snappier then before. Caution: upgrading with Q will flash the whole rom and wipes the device!. Idol 4S 6070K Netherlands. Realy love the devices`s performance and especialy the great speakers
Saw a video review with a blind comparison to the S7 for photos/videos.
Lowlight is pretty meh and video bounces around a lot, but the well lit areas really give the S7 a run for it's money.
It sounds like the key to using the camera is A) Good lighting and B)Keep a steady hand
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Saw a video review with a blind comparison to the S7 for photos/videos.
Lowlight is pretty meh and video bounces around a lot, but the well lit areas really give the S7 a run for it's money.
It sounds like the key to using the camera is A) Good lighting and B)Keep a steady hand
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Pretty much is about the steady hand, because with this you can make nice pictures.
I attach some pictures I made with the phone.
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This pic is stunning. Thanks for sharing
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This pic is stunning. Thanks for sharing
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As long as you keep it steady, it indeed does a good job.
HRD is really nice for low lights situations, but again, you must be really steady when taking the pictures.
Regarding the manual mode, is also nice to play with it and you can get some nice results as well.
Manual mode is great for macro and long exposure shots. My friend who works for TCL told me an update to Android Nougat is already under development but no release date is known as of yet.
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Manual mode is great for macro and long exposure shots. My friend who works for TCL told me an update to Android Nougat is already under development but no release date is known as of yet.
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TBH when my Idol 3 updated to MM, my cell reception went wonky so I am in no rush.
Been using my 3T for two days now. Haven't sold my 6S, though the plan was to use the funds I would've got from that to cover the cost of the 3T.
The reason being is I'm having a few doubts. I'm no stranger to Android, as the majority of my smartphone's have been Android, and the first iPhone I bought was in January 2015.
I don't particularly miss any of the iOS features such as iMessage and Facetime, as WhatsApp pretty much covers those, 3D Touch was quite handy but this has gestures instead.
My issues are, I guess, the camera; OIS, mic quality, security, Android Pay.
Camera wise, on paper the 3T is better than my 6S without OIS, but so far it struggles to take pictures without some form of motion blur. Recording, the mic isn't as good either. Also read reports of the camera hump falling off, at least on the 3.
I'm also a little concerned with security, I've had way more pop ups / apps being forced on me in the past two days, than I would have using the iPhone for the same amount of time. Though I heard Nougat is as secure as iOS now?
Oh and I can't get Android Pay to work. Well I managed it by accident, held the phone on the same way as I normally works with the 6S, and nothing. Ended up waving the phone around whilst unlocked until it registered.
Not sure if am looking for faults because Apple have sold their products and OS on me, or if the 6S just is a better device...
... though it can't compete with the 3T's screen, Dash charge, fast fingerprint scanner and battery life.
Miss my Autodesk Graphic app though
Need convincing I've made the right choice, thanks guys
I got my OP3T a couple days ago and I love it.
First off, there is no such thing as a perfect phone, but this one comes pretty close.
Camera - From my testing with the camer on my phone, I think that the main camera is VERY sensitive to motion. YOu need a steady hand to take good pics. However the front facing camera is really good and pics don't come out distorted at all. I think reall all you need is to find a camera app with good stabilization and you will be good.
Microphone - don't really use this, but I don't think it's a problem. I know phone quality is really good and clear for me. There are apps and mods that can probably help out with tweaking the mic
Security - just like anything, with time anything can be hacked. Keep in mind that oneplus 3T is a dev friendly phone. Most other phone manufacturers cringe on letting users modify their phone. Certainly Apple is very much opposed to that as well. Now your popup issue might be something else. There are a lot of popup blockers you can use. I use and recommend Ad Guard pro. It blocks ads and popups in browsers and in apps.
Here is what it comes down to... Do you use your phone more for pictures and video or pretty much anything else? If it's the later, than honestly you can go wrong with the OP3T. If you use it for photos and videos more, then maybe you can research some apps to see if there is anything out there that is worth using to make better pics.
It's funny because I bought a 64gb iPhone 6S plus today to resell and honestly it feels ancient compared to my 3t .
I have natural steady hands..
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Not the best photo obviously lol but it can take great pictures. Any good photographer can take a picture with anything and make it look amazing, camera is sensitive to motion but software update can fix this. No problems with video it looks and sounds very clear not o mention videos are very steady.
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It looks way better on my device
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Oh and I can't get Android Pay to work. Well I managed it by accident, held the phone on the same way as I normally works with the 6S, and nothing. Ended up waving the phone around whilst unlocked until it registered.
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The NFC sensor is behind the camera. I used it for a purchase 2 hours ago and it was fine. You just have to hold the camera up to the sensor for a few seconds and it should work. You don't even need to open the app. Just need to unlock your phone and have NFC on.
Hope you keep the device
Note 9 is supposed to have identical camera with note 8, but the algorithm improved!
please let us show the photos made by note 9
I am going to be very interested to see how much improved the Note 9 is over the S9 camera.
Edit - I have over 50 photos in my review. The photo part starts around 13 mins and 5 seconds. The start of the video is filmed using the front camera on the Note 9, and the last few minutes is video from the rear camera.
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I am going to be very interested to see how much improved the Note 9 is over the S9 camera.
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Not much, maybe just the algorithm
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Note 9 is supposed to have identical camera with note 8, but the algorithm improved!
please let us show the photos made by note 9
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Note 9 camera is NOT identical with NOTE 8 camera. It is identical with S9 Plus camera - the biggest difference between the Note 9 and Note 8 camera is the NOte 9 has a Moving Aperture - like DSLR camera's have. The Note 8 does not have that. (it was introduced on the S9 Plus)
Combine that with the new AI stuff being added and I think it really does make the camera that much more special.
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Note 9 camera is NOT identical with NOTE 8 camera. It is identical with S9 Plus camera - the biggest difference between the Note 9 and Note 8 camera is the NOte 9 has a Moving Aperture - like DSLR camera's have. The Note 8 does not have that. (it was introduced on the S9 Plus)
Combine that with the new AI stuff being added and I think it really does make the camera that much more special.
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are you going to order, tonight?
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I am going to be very interested to see how much improved the Note 9 is over the S9 camera.
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Looking forward to your normal detailed and extensive review! I
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are you going to order, tonight?
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I ordered yesterday from Clove in the UK- (I am in the US and want to get the N960F varient - so my order went thru for the 126GB varient. I really wanted the 512 but the cost is just too much - I can't spend over 1200 on a phone....but I came close - LOL
As my girlfriend daughter get Samsung Galaxy Note yesterday, I asked her to send photos took with Note 9 in different daylights. So I'll post soon.
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Why are low light pictures look more yellowish than my note 8. Note 8 colors are more accurate.
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Here are some more. I couldnt add more pics to my previous post so had to post a new reply.
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Here I took a picture of my bag and zoomed in. Note 8 is clearer. I compared all the setting and i can't find anything different.
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Here's one I took, in auto with Scene detection on. If you goto the first page in this thread, my review has 50 plus photos in it, like this below.
Feeding time #galaxynote9 by Gavin Fabiani-Laymond, on Flickr
Utah State Capitol
Gallo Pinto
Unedited JPEG, this was a slightly long exposure handheld shot
(apologies for the image not being rotated properly but that's an easy fix anyway)
First one is the first pic with the phone in auto the second is live focus. Lighting was on the dim side with live focus so it's a bit grainy but still a good pic to me.
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Taken at Disneyland CA with auto mode on.
I was extremely impressed with the camera. This is a very challenging pic with the natural light coming from behind the subject. Surprisingly the camera was able to maintain the focus in the foreground as well as the clouds in the background.
Hey guys, I am new to the forum, but I wanted to share my experience with the 7 pro. I won't talk about the display, it really is that amazing. The first day I had a couple of not so great experiences with two things : camera and gestures. The telephoto camera was really bad, I couldn't take even one normal portrait photo with it. The focus was off, everything was blurry, just plain awful. The standard camera was good and the wide also nice. For some reason I couldn't get my mobile network to work. Then I installed the update from oneplus and both the camera and network issue were fixed like magic :laugh:
About the gestures: I decided to use the gestures from oxygen os, not the standard or the Google ones, because the screen really is suited for them. But as I've never used them before I had a hard time getting adjusted. Main problem was the motion to see all apps. It took me a good few hours only doing that until I could do it somewhat successfully.
Battery : I'm not a heavy user and my last phone was the LG g6 so I had to learn all the tricks to a good battery life :laugh: My setup is: auto sync is off, dark mode on, brightness around 40%, 90hz auto switch. Half of the time it's on mobile network the other on Wi-Fi. I don't use nfc, Bluetooth maybe an hour a day, location also very rarely on. The SOT I get is around 8 and a half hours. I do play games for 2-3 hours daily.
If you have questions or suggestions to improve my experience please share :fingers-crossed.
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Hey guys, I am new to the forum, but I wanted to share my experience with the 7 pro. I won't talk about the display, it really is that amazing. The first day I had a couple of not so great experiences with two things : camera and gestures. The telephoto camera was really bad, I couldn't take even one normal portrait photo with it. The focus was off, everything was blurry, just plain awful. The standard camera was good and the wide also nice. For some reason I couldn't get my mobile network to work. Then I installed the update from oneplus and both the camera and network issue were fixed like magic [emoji23]
About the gestures: I decided to use the gestures from oxygen os, not the standard or the Google ones, because the screen really is suited for them. But as I've never used them before I had a hard time getting adjusted. Main problem was the motion to see all apps. It took me a good few hours only doing that until I could do it somewhat successfully.
Battery : I'm not a heavy user and my last phone was the LG g6 so I had to learn all the tricks to a good battery life [emoji23] My setup is: auto sync is off, dark mode on, brightness around 40%, 90hz auto switch. Half of the time it's on mobile network the other on Wi-Fi. I don't use nfc, Bluetooth maybe an hour a day, location also very rarely on. The SOT I get is around 8 and a half hours. I do play games for 2-3 hours daily.
If you have questions or suggestions to improve my experience please share :fingers-crossed.
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I agree with you [emoji817]% on almost everything. Camera is horrible. They really need a software fix. Fast
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Everything except for the camera is great but the camera is a deal breaker, its a disaster.
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Everything except for the camera is great but the camera is a deal breaker, its a disaster.
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Completely agree! I had pretty much decided to return it earlier due to the camera, however, I tried a few gcams this afternoon to see if there was any potential and there was some big improvements.
I'm hoping a dedicated gcam port will save this phone, I've got two weeks to decide on whether to return it. It's a shame that at £700 we are relying on the community to save a "Pro" phone.
Relax guys. There was the same issue on the oneplus 6 when I got it. A few software updates later and the camera was decent. (Not impressive though but that's just the camera hardware and lens built into it).
I'm not worried at all, it will get better and gcam helps as well. There are better ports incoming for sure.
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Completely agree! I had pretty much decided to return it earlier due to the camera, however, I tried a few gcams this afternoon to see if there was any potential and there was some big improvements.
I'm hoping a dedicated gcam port will save this phone, I've got two weeks to decide on whether to return it. It's a shame that at £700 we are relying on the community to save a "Pro" phone.
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My camera issues were mostly fixed with an update. Does anyone have issues with games freezing?