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Can corner softness be fixed with a firmware update?

Hi,
As other people have noticed with their Z1, quality and sharpness seems to degrade when near the edge. Frankly, after some research, I found out this is the case with many cameras (including premium ones).
My questions are:
1. Does anyone else experience this corner softness?
2. Can this be fixed with a firmware update?
Thanks!

bloodfire1004 said:
Hi,
1. Does anyone else experience this corner softness?
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Yes, that´s the price you have to pay for a relatively large sensor with a large aperture lens.
2. Can this be fixed with a firmware update?
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No, you can correct distortion, vigneting etc. but you can´t magically make details appear that never have been recorded

*R2D2* said:
No, you can correct distortion, vigneting etc.
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how can you correct distortion, exactly?
is it possible to get a straight horizon with post processing?

guybrush2099 said:
how can you correct distortion, exactly?
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If you know the distortion-characteristics of your lens, then you can correct them. Almost any compact camera nowadays corrects distortion during processing, it is the only way to get small widangle-lenses usable. In earlier days, when image-processors weren´t powerful enough to provide distortion-correction you could hardly find a compact camera with a wideangle-equivalent of 35mm, nowadays below 30mm equivalent focal-length is usual, even as low as 24mm not uncommon. Yet todays lenses are smaller and have more zoom-range at the same time.
is it possible to get a straight horizon with post processing?
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Depends what you mean with straight horizon. It is of course easily possible to rotate an image to get a straight horizon.
If you mean to straighten lines because of a tilted camera it gets more difficult. Because an image has no depth-information this only works well if all objects in your image are about the same distances, because different distances from the camera require different amounts of correction.

That's why it should be done in the same manner as Panasonic does it on their Lumix cameras. If they promise/advertise a 12 MB pixel camera the sensor is 15 MB pixel - that is the only way to have sharp edges.

Photo quality seems awful on the 3t?

Does anyone have any tips to make the photos crisper? They seems fuzzy

worldsoutro said:
Does anyone have any tips to make the photos crisper? They seems fuzzy
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Are you talking about back or front camera?

Pharrax said:
Are you talking about back or front camera?
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Sorry Back cam

The zoom is pathetic, I give it that. I'm visually impaired and frequently use the camera to read at a distance. Can't do it on this phone.

magoo5289 said:
The zoom is pathetic, I give it that. I'm visually impaired and frequently use the camera to read at a distance. Can't do it on this phone.
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It's digital zoom, obviously you lose quality when using it.

Someguyfromhell said:
It's digital zoom, obviously you lose quality when using it.
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All phones are digital zoom to my knowledge. This is the worst camera for zoom I've ever had on a phone.

not sure why people are complaining on smartphone cameras expecting to provide SLR like features.
3T camera is not bad at all, in fact it is better than in my HTC 10

worldsoutro said:
Does anyone have any tips to make the photos crisper? They seems fuzzy
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you did remove the small piece of film over the lens? (sorry had to ask)

zim2dive said:
you did remove the small piece of film over the lens? (sorry had to ask)
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... there's film over the lens? I didn't see it, and can't see it now

The iPhone with 2 cameras have optical zoom. So not all phones. Probably some huawei phones as well.
If you want clear zoom (for visually impaired) get a zoom lens that clips on.
As for fuzziness (this note is for OP) try fussing with the app. HQ mode etc.. Also is it low light or bright light?

get the google camera 4.2 apk very nice shoots

bad bad bad selfie quality!!!

Got my p4xl 2 days ago, what is this garbage front camera?!
Faces loss details, whats happened to Google?!
Last p3xl was the best selfie camera!
Why f 2.0? Why 25 mm len?
Very disappointed, my op7 pro with gcam has better results, better battery life and half price.... Google this year you lost the game...

avivasaf said:
Got my p4xl 2 days ago, what is this garbage front camera?!
Faces loss details, whats happened to Google?!
Last p3xl was the best selfie camera!
Why f 2.0? Why 25 mm len?
Very disappointed, my op7 pro with gcam has better results, better battery life and half price.... Google this year you lost the game...
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Cool story, bro!

Did you disable the skin smoothing that's on by default? Also the update is supposed to improve selfie camera.

PuffinNugz said:
Did you disable the skin smoothing that's on by default? Also the update is supposed to improve selfie camera.
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Disable smooth skin, did update
Sharpness so bad especially at indoor/low light
P3xl did great work, p4xl distorted it

Front camera :no shapness

avivasaf said:
Front camera :no shapness
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Haha really dude??
Think you missed the point with a front camera if you're taking pics like that with it..

tigercranestyle said:
And maybe I'm missing something as I'm not a photography nerd, but why is the picture only 2.8 megapixels? Can't seem to do anything in settings to make the selfie cam go from 8 to 2.8 megapixels.
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Definitely something wrong, that info shows it's in the download folder and only 265kb. That's not straight from the camera. Like someone sent it as an MMS and it was downloaded.

tigercranestyle said:
And maybe I'm missing something as I'm not a photography nerd, but why is the picture only 2.8 megapixels? Can't seem to do anything in settings to make the selfie cam go from 8 to 2.8 megapixels.
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This is the upload file to xda! Not the real taken photo!!!

Fille84 said:
Haha really dude??
Think you missed the point with a front camera if you're taking pics like that with it..
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Before you come to any conclusion, the point is the selfie camera didnt improved in px4xl it worse now.
I photo behind me not myself and this was the results just to show how is the quality!!!
You guy need to try more phones if you like this front camera...

tigercranestyle said:
Yep. Forgot to mention that also. Always seems to be the OnePlus folks... and not just here. Also Reddit. There is a lot of them.
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I switched from oneplus that knowing Google is better, not this time...
Sorry but i needed to believe the reviews even the front facing camera didnt mention there...
The rear camera is the best out there for sure, but why Google went down in the specs of front camera?!
The battery also needed to improve better, we are in 2019 not 2016,Google needs to make 4000ma batteries and more, this is one of the most important things for users.
Everybody says front facing camera is not important as rear, but you can see people at the street, when traveling always makes selfie photos, so you need to improve it also or not make it less better than your previous phone

Got to say I'm pretty impressed by the sharpness regarding contours on my end. You're definitely using the cam the wrong way, or got a faulty sensor.
Sent from my Google Pixel 4 XL using XDA Labs

Now you have explain for the nonsharp photo??? Dont answer, because you dont have answers!!!

I just took three shots, one with smoothness off, one on, and one portrait. ALL of them look REALLY good. 'shrugs'

tigercranestyle said:
Yeah... no. The front-facing camera isn't 6 megapixels either. If anything other than some upset OnePlus user, it must be user error.
The ffc isn't 2.8 megapixels and it's not 6 megapixels. It's also not 3.14159265359 megapixels.
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So try to shoot one photo and see the information you get, this is what i got. The phone is original bought at Saturn Germany

tigercranestyle said:
Yeah... no. The front-facing camera isn't 6 megapixels either. If anything other than some upset OnePlus user, it must be user error.
The ffc isn't 2.8 megapixels and it's not 6 megapixels. It's also not 3.14159265359 megapixels.
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It would be great to see a proof that you got something else

tigercranestyle said:
Test.
You're right about xda upload changing the megapixel size of the photo. I was wondering about that.
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But see the details in the original photo you are taking its 6M not 8M,strange...

avivasaf said:
But see the details in the original photo you are taking its 6M not 8M,strange...
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I checked in photos taken with my old px3xl details got 8M!!!another **** in px4xl?!

tigercranestyle said:
Have no problem admitting I was wrong about uploading to xda changing the megapixels. Attaching a photo of my post indicating that I was wrong.
Again, are you rooted? Everyone else had no problem with ffc but you. Are you rooted?
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Im not rooted! Again, take a selfie photo look at the details of the photo, its i inside a circle and tell me please what is the size of photo you shooted 6M or 8M?

tigercranestyle said:
I said I was wrong about the megapixels, but you don't have a Pixel 4 xl.
You're not rooted? Yet you're using three button navigation and your home button is missing the circle around the home button that has been present since the first Pixel xl. Pic is attached showing your navbar and what it looks like with three button navigation enabled on the pixel 4 xl. You're likely using a phone with a skimmed down version on Android on another phone. You're navigation bar looks similiar to the one on the Essential phone without the circle around the nav bar. I've attached a pic of that as well.
Also your clock is supposed to be on the left side. Signal and battery are supposed to be on the right. Pic is attached of how it's supposed to look.
Was going to say that your Google Lens icon is missing, but it's not available in Israel.
Anyhow, chances are is that you're using some random Gcam mod that you've posted about in the past.
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What are you saying?! In Hebrew the buttons and the clock are opposite to English, im using pixel 4 xl 2 days brand new, attached my system details!

Lack of sharpness is probably more like lack of focus. The front facing camera is fixed focus. It's no different than my Pixel 2 XL and both do fine for me. You gotta hold it a little steadier. Something that helps is using the 3 second timer so tapping the on screen shutter or the volume button don't produce extra movement.
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General Already got S21 Ultra, ask me anything

So I was lucky to be one of 100 first people who order S21 Ultra Exynos in Thailand. As the part of the campaign, I got the phone early and only need to pay $0.7 (21 Thai Baht) for it. Already got the phone in-hand without any NDA, so ask me anything!

pls. post example fotos , especially night mode.
i have read many reviews, and i am shortly before cancelling it, the camera reviews are bad... :/

please post some screenshots of the sot

Whats the lowest numbered square you can see in this image on the lowest brightness setting in a pitch black room?
https://imgur.com/WJeqtlt

MeisterGigi said:
pls. post example fotos , especially night mode.
i have read many reviews, and i am shortly before cancelling it, the camera reviews are bad... :/
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Here are some landscape photo of my university taken with main camera at 108MP. Will try night photo for ya!

Toss3 said:
Whats the lowest numbered square you can see in this image on the lowest brightness setting in a pitch black room?
https://imgur.com/WJeqtlt
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Around 8-7. 6 is hard to see even at full brightness.

WiizGhost said:
please post some screenshots of the sot
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Let me use it until it drain and will get back to you!

KenSoftTH said:
Here are some landscape photo of my university taken with main camera at 108MP. Will try night photo for ya!
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I think all three photos look very nice when zoomed to be "full screen" on my 1080p laptop screen. When I zoom to 1-to-1 pixels I see that there is a small bit of jitter in the photo. It looks like you couldn't be 100% steady when shooting (who can? We're talking very small pixels here and your arms were probably outstretched in the air) and the phone was not able to completely remove the sway. But, this is only noticeable when zoomed in 1 to 1. Also, some parts of the image are a bit muddy at that zoom level. I expected this as packing 108MP into a small sensor is basically guaranteed to make the actual pixels a little muddy. In these high brightness pictures the image looks as good as I'd expect. I would not feel bad about being able to get quality like that. Now, that still does leave everyone with the question "what about when it's dark" but we'll see.

WiizGhost said:
please post some screenshots of the sot
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Are those haptics as good as advertised ? Can you post (via upload button) some IRL photos (like in the dark of your room, ...
Usually youtubers take photos around their 10000$ lighting setup so having casual photos is interesting
@KenSoftTH

Raiz said:
Are those haptics as good as advertised ? Can you post (via upload button) some IRL photos (like in the dark of your room, ...
Usually youtubers take photos around their 10000$ lighting setup so having casual photos is interesting
@KenSoftTH
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Here you go. From all cameras. Two photo for main wide lens 108MP and 12MP 9 pixel binning.

How's the finger print sensor compared to s10/20

shanxybeast said:
How's the finger print sensor compared to s10/20
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I never uses S10 or S20, but compared to S20 FE 5G, it is noticably faster and much more accurate.

Has mst been removed from your version of S21u?

shanxybeast said:
Has mst been removed from your version of S21u?
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Samsung Pay was removed from my version. Don't know about MST.

How's the heating and cooling on the device? Do any gaming?

shanxybeast said:
How's the heating and cooling on the device? Do any gaming?
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The exynos version heats up much faster than S20 FE 5G which has snapdragon 865. It is much hotter than 865 during gaming and i experience some frame rate drop after playing at 1440p for extended period of time. Turning down to 1080p reduce fps drop and reduce heat slightly. However, after idling for a short while, it cool down really fast. Don't know about snapdragon 888 version though.

How has the low light performance been?

shanxybeast said:
How has the low light performance been?
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see image sample above

What's the drain been like on mobile data when not using the phone? Sorry it's a very boring question

Question 16:9 mode on 108MP and Horizontal level

Hello, I wish have 16:9 mode on 108MP camera, and Horizontal level also important, if that possible please? S21U.
Thank you a lot!

marshartdegen said:
Hello, I wish have 16:9 mode on 108MP camera, and Horizontal level also important, if that possible please? S21U.
Thank you a lot!
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Shoot in 4:3, edit the shoot and croop in 16:9

UNIK97122 said:
Shoot in 4:3, edit the shoot and croop in 16:9
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Yes I do, but not good for sure which part can keep, or should move farther or not, better can have line to hint 16:9.

marshartdegen said:
Yes I do, but not good for sure which part can keep, or should move farther or not, better can have line to hint 16:9.
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in fact the 108 mpx mode is made for that, try a screenshoot with the little window on the top left side it will create a 33mpx pictures

UNIK97122 said:
in fact the 108 mpx mode is made for that, try a screenshoot with the little window on the top left side it will create a 33mpx pictures
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Well, 108MP is 12000*9000, so I need 12000*6750, lol
Also I know how to cut by software later, but take the 16:9 view is a problem.