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Hey there,
xplodwild here, I did the announcement session at BABBQ, it was awesome. Thanks for everyone who were there.
So yeah, we didn't prepare a lot of YouTube demo videos yet, but all the information about the philosophy of Omni are available on Omni website: http://omnirom.org/why-omni/.
We are a ROM different than others: we are focused on performance, cohesion, stability, innovation, code quality, community and open source. And the community more than anything else. You are using the ROM, you should be choosing what you want to have.
When we're taking a patch from another ROM, we're trying as much as possible to enhance it before merging it. When we're getting new features, we give you a way to give early feedback, early access to prototypes, early access to mockups, etc, so that we know immediately early on if we're doing it right.
All the contributions will be GPL licensed (at least we'll be pushing for it). People will be able to vote up and down on patches,
Some of the key features of Omni:
Flippable Quick Settings
Roadrunner mode
Multi-window(!)
Daydream enhancements
Integrated Performance Control
Multi-workspace
Color-changeable, 3D depth Phase Beam
And a bunch more
We're also pushing non-Android stuff, such as OmniInstaller (an all-in-one, multi-platform, open source, installer that anyone can plug in), as well as a Qt library to give Qt Android apps a native Android look, and have gorgeous and super-fast Android apps. We're helping users, and helping developers.
Everything is free, free as in money, and free as in liberty. And transparent.
Edit #1: Regarding device support, we currently support all the Nexus devices, as well as the Oppo Find 5, Xperia Z, Xperia Tablet Z. We have preliminary support for the i9300 as well as the Oppo R819.
Edit #2: We'll have a bunch of developer resouces up soon, giving a head start to newcomers in the Android development world.
I probably didn't cover much things but I'll add more things as they come to my mind. We're having beers here and I'm probably not fully able to do a comprehensive post right now.

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NIce! Does that "multiwindow" works flawlessly?without breaking apps?

I'm overjoyed to see you guys bounce back after the Inc debacle.
Looking forward to compiling, testing and enjoying Omni.

Are you guys going to kang features from other ROMs (Halo and Pie from PA for example) or will all features be developed in-house?
Also, on which Android-version are the first builds based? I guess 4.3.1?
Since the annoucement of Cyanogen to be a corporation, I was searching for a new AOSP-based ROM for my daily needs, and I think I found it. Good luck guys!

I m dying to try this rom.
Would it be possible to port it using cyanogenmod or aosp as base?

chasmodo said:
I'm overjoyed to see you guys bounce back after the Inc debacle.
Looking forward to compiling, testing and enjoying Omni.
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Me, two©. Joli coup @XpLoDWilD @Entropy512 and everyone else involved, wishing you all the best with Omni. Nice to see espenfjo back on track as well.
#free^3

They say all nexuses are supported , then where is galaxy nexus support huh ? If there will be not official support , how can I develop a unofficial version of OMNIr for gnex ?

sakindia123 said:
NIce! Does that "multiwindow" works flawlessly?without breaking apps?
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It will do pretty much. We'll get sources up very very soon (ie. minutes), and gerrit is already live where you can see the MultiWindow patch being reviewed and improved.
SGWUser said:
Are you guys going to kang features from other ROMs (Halo and Pie from PA for example) or will all features be developed in-house?
Also, on which Android-version are the first builds based? I guess 4.3.1?
Since the annoucement of Cyanogen to be a corporation, I was searching for a new AOSP-based ROM for my daily needs, and I think I found it. Good luck guys!
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In the spirit of open source, if there's something that gives positive improvement on the user experience, and it can be introduced, and people want it, it will be included. There's a balance between "settings inception" (ie. a toggle for your toggle, to toggle text alignment of the clock) and something that isn't customisable, but that will be open to much wider discussion and consultation.
4.3.1 is the current version in use, yes.
Halo and Pie are 2 specific examples, but this is where the community comes in - porting these features should be fairly straightforward. We like to try improve things too where possible
AndroidAddiction said:
I m dying to try this rom.
Would it be possible to port it using cyanogenmod or aosp as base?
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The ROM is based on AOSP, and full sources will be posted today, meaning you can try to build it for yourself. Be aware though, not all chipsets are currently supported - nexus devices will have more luck than other devices for now, but that will obviously change in the coming days and weeks.
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They say all nexuses are supported , then where is galaxy nexus support huh ?
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I don't believe anyone has one here for testing, hence it has not been listed yet. it WILL be supported, but until it's been tested, it won't go onto the list

Have the additional selinux commits CM started picking a few months ago been picked here also? If so, would make getting a build up for the Sprint and Verizon GNote 2 much easier Now it's just a waiting game for source to drop.
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slick_rick said:
Have the additional selinux commits CM picked a few months ago been picked here also? By that I mean the 2nd commit from the top to the next page https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_base/commits/cm-10.2?page=15 If so, would make getting a build up for the Sprint and Verizon GNote 2 much easier Now it's a waiting game for source to drop.
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We've not focused yet that much on SELinux, as generally we believe that features like this should be introduced once the tree is stable enough.
There's still work needing done for SoCs (like Exynos!), but once we have the ground work covered, make no mistake, SELinux will be in and securing. Until then though, it will not be a number 1 priority (not to say nobody can go fix it!) - that's the glory of open source

Hurray!

a small query,do you plan to include support for legacy devices?(for example, the video encoding/decoding patches for msm7x27/7x27a)?
Currently,no roms support this by default.

Great News.

pulser_g2 said:
We've not focused yet that much on SELinux, as generally we believe that features like this should be introduced once the tree is stable enough.
There's still work needing done for SoCs (like Exynos!), but once we have the ground work covered, make no mistake, SELinux will be in and securing. Until then though, it will not be a number 1 priority (not to say nobody can go fix it!) - that's the glory of open source
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Makes sense. I use modified CM trees to build for PA which doesnt have that extra selinux stuff so building should still be pretty painless I hope. Last question, let's say I wanted to add PA Pie support in an aio patch or so, would I just push to gerrit and from there the core team and users vote on it? Considering its stable and working fine. How will that work? Thanks!
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sakindia123 said:
NIce! Does that "multiwindow" works flawlessly?without breaking apps?
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Still work to be done. I just barely got it working on flo and pollux_windy before flying out to BABBQ.

What's the Roadrunner feature?

sakindia123 said:
a small query,do you plan to include support for legacy devices?(for example, the video encoding/decoding patches for msm7x27/7x27a)?
Currently,no roms support this by default.
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Yes, we intend to include legacy device support as a key feature. I'll go into this in more detail later, but this was one of our founding "aims".
Provided compatibility for legacy devices can be implemented "neatly" without impacting other devices, it's actively encouraged
Custom ROMs were meant to extend the useful lives of phones, not leave phones dangling without support

hikarugo said:
What's the Roadrunner feature?
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Roadrunner was the "speculated" feature name for a previous version of Android where some people suggested that it would improve battery life, and add better power profiles and management.
Roadrunner was something Xplod is working on, but it aims to make it possible to easily and quickly bias your device's configuration for performance, or battery, or a balance between the two.
On a modern device with 4 cores, and 2.2 GHz CPU (or whatever), this is frankly excessive for simple tasks. OEMs usually excessively prioritise performance so their device feels "snappy", leaving battery performance poor.
Roadrunner lets you reduce "raw" speed, but gain better battery life.

pulser_g2 said:
Yes, we intend to include legacy device support as a key feature. I'll go into this in more detail later, but this was one of our founding "aims".
Provided compatibility for legacy devices can be implemented "neatly" without impacting other devices, it's actively encouraged
Custom ROMs were meant to extend the useful lives of phones, not leave phones dangling without support
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I will try to get @PecanCM involved, as well as the members from androidarmv6. They'll have a few patches to push up
Because we use different sets of qcom hardware sources, can I ask for them to be able to be fetched from different github users/organisations, just to keep the source code tidier?
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Donate via PayPal to get Cyanogenmod 12 on our Note 4 EXYNOS devices

Hello everyone,
I am creating this thread on behalf of @RaymanFX , a recognized developer who needs a device(Galaxy Note 4 Exynos) to develop for us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3463426
https://github.com/raymanfx
He is looking to develop for Note 4 Exynos (All Variants N910C N910U N910H etc), and is looking to make Cyanogenmod 12 roms and kernels for us. He is an recognized developer here at XDA http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3463426
He is very committed to getting this device and developing for us so let's get him this device. He needs at least 639 Euros to buy the device, so please consider donating any value , even 1 dollar for an debugging/dev device he can work on. He had succeeded to port Cyanogenmod 12 to Galaxy note 10 2014 Exynos Tablet as seen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/general/android-5-0-offical-cm-support-t2938652
Let us join together and help this project.
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FUCTIONS TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN CM12 NOTE 4 EXYNOS RaymanFX ROM (SEE PICTURES BELOW OF RAYMANFX EMAILS)
1. Spen functions (button hold to select text, write, palm rejection) -Already Implemented in CM12 by Raymanfx
2. Samsung Apps (to be implemented)
3. Exynos 5433 64 bits Support(to be implemented)
Follow Development Progress:
https://github.com/RaymanFX/device_samsung_trelte
How to donate?
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2. Fill in any required info.
4. Pm your transaction number or screenshot of your receipt to calj17 deleted or post the Transaction screenshot here in the thread

Why is nobody answering to this thread ??

Donate via PayPal to get Cyanogenmod 12 on our devices
Very sad I expected everyone answering here. Come on guys let us join to raise fund and buy 1 unit of note 4 n910c. Costs 750 usd at ebay or Amazon.
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because nobody cares to donate to some guy who may or may not port some crappy rom to our note 4s.
seriously who cares about cyanogenmod ? lollipop vanilla is far better and supported.
also you lose most of the notes functionality by rooting. knox goes, your dual personality phone becomes a single personality phone, you lose warranty permanently and you dont gain anything which you would not have already.
go buy a nexus 6 if you want a rooted/cyanogenmodded phone.

zurkx said:
because nobody cares to donate to some guy who may or may not port some crappy rom to our note 4s.
seriously who cares about cyanogenmod ? lollipop vanilla is far better and supported.
also you lose most of the notes functionality by rooting. knox goes, your dual personality phone becomes a single personality phone, you lose warranty permanently and you dont gain anything which you would not have already.
go buy a nexus 6 if you want a rooted/cyanogenmodded phone.
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I don't agree cyanogenmod is a crap. Has a lot of fans out there and bring us the latest android build always. You are being rude with your words. If you are not interested just leave the thread

Would it work on the SM-N910U variant??? If yes, where do I donate ??

another thread ?
why you make another thread to discuss same thing..
I notice you are also OP of this thread
What makes me don't like CM is it's rarely made it through the stable build for past device I use. I'm definitely don't want to use experimental ROM in my precious device. Just my opinion.

Donate via PayPal to get Cyanogenmod 12 on our devices
I will invite the developer to join the thread. His build is Very good for the note 10.1 2014 exynos and if he build for note 4 will also be very nice

I'm willing to help with something like 20$ but the Note was expensive as it was. I agree with people that AOSP > CM though.
Also, be careful, I'm pretty sure paid ROMs/kernels/etc are banned on xda and this might be considered as such.

eydryan said:
I'm willing to help with something like 20$ but the Note was expensive as it was. I agree with people that AOSP > CM though.
Also, be careful, I'm pretty sure paid ROMs/kernels/etc are banned on xda and this might be considered as such.
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I want to donate 20 too. In this case we are not paying the rom. We are buying 1 developer unit of the note 4 só that he can work
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eydryan said:
I'm willing to help with something like 20$ but the Note was expensive as it was. I agree with people that AOSP > CM though.
Also, be careful, I'm pretty sure paid ROMs/kernels/etc are banned on xda and this might be considered as such.
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calj17 said:
I want to donate 20 too. In this case we are not paying the rom. We are buying 1 developer unit of the note 4 só that he can work
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Hey, so I thought I'd join in here as well.
What calj17 said is actually true. What you are 'paying' for is not my work, nor anything I craft/code, but rather the tool for me to do my work. I am providing development for free of course, it's just that I'm a university student and obviously cannot afford to buy a Galaxy Note 4 myself.
I'm not asking for donations either. I was asked by people to work on Exynos based devices since there's little to no development activity going on for these. I can tell that by now, my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 (Exynos5420) runs stable enough to be considered a daily driver, with basic S-Pen features working (palm rejection, special pen buttons, etc.), so I'm convinced I could do the same on the Galaxy Note 4.
However, there are people that still like Touchwiz better for its superior features (especially S-Pen specific ones) that a custom ROM will never be able to achieve and I don't blame these people. I myself (obviously) prefer faster custom ROMs over a stock one, but to each their own is the correct agenda here I'd say.
It's just up to the decision if there are enough people in this community who think alike and would be willing do donate a few pennies. Here's the donation thread of the Galaxy Note 10.1 by the way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/general/android-5-0-offical-cm-support-t2938652.
You can see it was successful and it all went along pretty well. The community got exactly what it donated for (a usable CM-12.0 build) and I'm still working on the device every day (my recent contributions include making the aosp exynos5 drivers (used by the Nexus 10) fully usable on non-aosp devices - commits are here: http://review.teameos.org/#/q/status:merged).
Again, it's up to this community.
I'm in no urge to do anything on the Note 4. But I like what I do and I consider developing on android a healthy hobby for my university classes, so I will happily aid people to be able to run whatever they want on their devices if I am given the device to work on. Of course, You could get whatever ROM you want with a solid base. If people rather wish for a stable AOSP ROM instead of CM; no problem. From there on, other people can take the device bits and easily build AOKP/Slim/Omni/whatever you have in mind
EDIT: like the Galaxy Note 10.1 thread, I think this one rather belongs in the general section instead of Q&A.

Happy new year for all. I would like each one here to mention how much is going to donate so that we Will know who will donate and the amount of money left to be reached. I begin will donate 20 usd. Who else?

calj17 said:
Happy new year for all. I would like each one here to mention how much is going to donate so that we Will know who will donate and the amount of money left to be reached. I begin will donate 20 usd. Who else?
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I would donate 50USD,
If the developer could set up an "indiegogo", we would know how much is left,

invisiblesushi said:
I would donate 50USD,
If the developer could set up an "indiegogo", we would know how much is left,
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760 dollars with free Shipping at amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00PB...ref=plSrch&dpPl=1&dpID=51iqsMnrz7L&ref=plSrch
If each one donated 20 usd we needed 38 users

I am also posting at Facebook note 4 comunities and Google plus asking more People to join the thread. Help of all here is apreciated to share the idea with other users

ramon2111 said:
Would it work on the SM-N910U variant??? If yes, where do I donate ??
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The N910U uses Intel XMM7260 modem, and the N910C uses Ericsson Thor M7450. Only difference between those two models is the modem.
Cellular and mobile data might not work, but someone might make an port for N910U, since the hardware is quite similar.

You should wait until the S6 as the platform will be more common and chances of somebody caring to port AOSP will grow.
At this point lollipop is just a few weeks away on stock.
Just my opinion.

The question is not Just getting lollipop. Is using pure android with the fast performance and lag free UI. Have a second option of rom free of bloatware and runing always the Last android build. At some point samsung will stop releasing new updates for note 4 exynos and we get stuck at the android version samsung want to offer us. Developers can GO on and offer us android 6.0, 7.0 etc as Google release them and we won't have to wait for samsung to release this for us

RaymanFX said:
Hey, so I thought I'd join in here as well.
What calj17 said is actually true. What you are 'paying' for is not my work, nor anything I craft/code, but rather the tool for me to do my work. I am providing development for free of course, it's just that I'm a university student and obviously cannot afford to buy a Galaxy Note 4 myself.
I'm not asking for donations either. I was asked by people to work on Exynos based devices since there's little to no development activity going on for these. I can tell that by now, my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 (Exynos5420) runs stable enough to be considered a daily driver, with basic S-Pen features working (palm rejection, special pen buttons, etc.), so I'm convinced I could do the same on the Galaxy Note 4.
However, there are people that still like Touchwiz better for its superior features (especially S-Pen specific ones) that a custom ROM will never be able to achieve and I don't blame these people. I myself (obviously) prefer faster custom ROMs over a stock one, but to each their own is the correct agenda here I'd say.
It's just up to the decision if there are enough people in this community who think alike and would be willing do donate a few pennies. Here's the donation thread of the Galaxy Note 10.1 by the way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/general/android-5-0-offical-cm-support-t2938652.
You can see it was successful and it all went along pretty well. The community got exactly what it donated for (a usable CM-12.0 build) and I'm still working on the device every day (my recent contributions include making the aosp exynos5 drivers (used by the Nexus 10) fully usable on non-aosp devices - commits are here: http://review.teameos.org/#/q/status:merged).
Again, it's up to this community.
I'm in no urge to do anything on the Note 4. But I like what I do and I consider developing on android a healthy hobby for my university classes, so I will happily aid people to be able to run whatever they want on their devices if I am given the device to work on. Of course, You could get whatever ROM you want with a solid base. If people rather wish for a stable AOSP ROM instead of CM; no problem. From there on, other people can take the device bits and easily build AOKP/Slim/Omni/whatever you have in mind
EDIT: like the Galaxy Note 10.1 thread, I think this one rather belongs in the general section instead of Q&A.
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Dear friend we want to know how to proceed with the donation. How much will be necessary to fund

[ROM][9.0][UNOFFICIAL] BootleggersROM 4.3 ✦ jason is dead ✦ [hero2lte]

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Bootleggers ROM is an aftermarket firmware based on AOSP with some patches and fixes from LineageOS and various other projects. The idea is to bring custom features and some of the most useful apps on your device, with the goal of Making you feel like 家.
With an almost stable source, this ROM is also packed with some custom wallpapers (avaliable on ShishuWalls), ringtones, fonts, and themes to bring to your device into a more fresh look and give you always a good experience.
Also, we got our Telegram Group to talk about the ROM, share some love, ideas or even have fun with us!
Some of the features that are included on this ROM are:
Code:
* QS Rows and Colums
* Volume Keys: Wake up, skip tracks and switch according to rotation
* Show song album cover, visualizer and battery info on Lockscreen
* Power Menu Items
* Battery LED light settings
* Suspend Actions: Make your device disable GPS and switch to 2G when you're not using it
* AppOps: Manage your apps permissions in an advanced way
* Recent Styles: Dig the new Pie Quickstep recents, go back to the classic layout or use the Android Go layout
* Network icons: Show or hide the cross, switch between 4G or LTE, use the classic icon layout before Pie or toggle roaming icon too!
Also, you can check a full list of Features available here.
Thanks to this people, this ROM could be possible, so, i have to give a big thanks to:
Code:
* Shishu (For being there)
* Ground Zero ROMs Team
* AOSPExtended
* ABC ROMs
* NitrogenOS
* AICP
* DirtyUnicorns
* Lukas Koller (Camera Roll dev)
* fxckingdeathwish (for the amazing photos for wallpaper/headers)
* OmniROM
* CyanogenMod/LineageOS
* PixelExperience
* PureNexus
* merothh
* Resurrection Remix
* AOSiP
* CrDroid
* CypherOS
* PureKat
* theimpulson
* MatiHalperin
* Project Xtended
* Pixeldust Project
* AquariOS
* Alejandro Ponce (Quetzal/Calypso dev)
* PixysOS
* The Memedo Testers team
* Every maintainer who decided to give our project a shot
* You for your interest on our project
Also if you got some ideas,bug fixes, stability improvements or want to help to support features for your device, you can do it by sending a Pull request on Bootleggers Github (check downloads and sources part) or tell us on our Telegram group (Check about us section), will be really appreciated. Got some questions about some terms we use? Check our FAQ or feel free to ask us. We appreciate your feedback and help.
Downloads:
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Nice,again a new rom for the amazing s7e,thanks a lot!
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I'm using another LOS 16-based ROM and thinking of switching because the gaming performance is rather bad. Is it a common issue in LOS 16? Also, scrolling feels choppy. Again. Common issue ?
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Rryann22 said:
I'm using another LOS 16-based ROM and thinking of switching because the gaming performance is rather bad. Is it a common issue in LOS 16? Also, scrolling feels choppy. Again. Common issue ?
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So you're using an extremely experimental Rom, on an older phone....rocking an Exynos chipset for that matter (known for having sub-par gaming performance in the 1st place when compared to Snapdragon).......
Point is....based on your situation don't expect great gaming performance. If that's really what you're looking for get a newer Snapdragon phone.

I didn't expect it to be great. But decent for a not so demanding title.
And I wouldn't call a beta version "extremely experimental"
ejstrong said:
So you're using an extremely experimental Rom, on an older phone....rocking an Exynos chipset for that matter (known for having sub-par gaming performance in the 1st place when compared to Snapdragon).......
Point is....based on your situation don't expect great gaming performance. If that's really what you're looking for get a newer Snapdragon phone.
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Rryann22 said:
I didn't expect it to be great. But decent for a not so demanding title.
And I wouldn't call a beta version "extremely experimental"
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Potato potahto. "Extremely experimental", or "beta"; however you choose to acknowledge it, the Rom is unofficial and not yet ready for prime time (and likely never will be due to the age of the device). Petty semantics aside, I've already explained why your expectations were too high. Older handset, dated chipset, unremarkable GPU, experimental software....ect. It's really not that difficult a riddle.

great work keeping the s7e alive. thanks.
anybody used a dual speaker mid with this yet..better still is it available on this rom?

What about bugs? I can't read on the OP if there are or not XD

FabioSan said:
What about bugs? I can't read on the OP if there are or not XD
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Since all Pie customs roms are based on LOS 16.0, you guys don't need to always ask the same. Simply check the LOS16.0 bugs here.

mauam said:
Since all Pie customs roms are based on LOS 16.0, you guys don't need to always ask the same. Simply check the LOS16.0 bugs here.
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Ah, the old still present hw composer xD
As ex maintainer I know it's a real pain
How are going the fix progressions?

FabioSan said:
Ah, the old still present hw composer xD
As ex maintainer I know it's a real pain
How are going the fix progressions?
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Don't know, you need to ask to Ivan Meler (I recommend not to bother him with that kind of questions). Ivan is the only developer (one man show) for s7 & s7e, so you can expect slow (but real) developement & of course because he do this as an hobby. So if you guys want to speed up the process, just buy him a couple of beers, coffees...

mauam said:
Don't know, you need to ask to Ivan Meler (I recommend not to bother him with that kind of questions). Ivan is the only developer (one man show) for s7 & s7e, so you can expect slow (but real) developement & of course because he do this as an hobby. So if you guys want to speed up the process, just buy him a couple of beers, coffees...
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Don't worry, I'll not bother anyone
Not asking for fast fix or anything like that
I do respect at 100% the dev job and just wait

Bootleggers 4.3 unofficial released, check links in OP
Refer to changelogs from other roms for device changes, and their blog for rom changes:
http://www.bootleggersrom.xyz/blog

poor custom rom support why?

I don't mean to offend any developer with my questions
-Why after a year from the release of this phone
There are few roms (mostly unofficial) with more or less the same bugs?
-Why there Is no official support for the most famous roms? (lineageOS, crDroid, pixel experience)
- why some Devs moved to Telegram?
-what are the difficulties that the developers have encountered with this phone?

The pe Dev said it will be official soon

faustin95 said:
- why some Devs moved to Telegram?
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I am interested in this the most. Makes it hard to track any developement.

+1

cihot said:
I am interested in this the most. Makes it hard to track any developement.
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+1 billion
I hate telegram

faustin95 said:
I don't mean to offend any developer with my questions
-Why after a year from the release of this phone
There are few roms (mostly unofficial) with more or less the same bugs?
-Why there Is no official support for the most famous roms? (lineageOS, crDroid, pixel experience)
- why some Devs moved to Telegram?
-what are the difficulties that the developers have encountered with this phone?
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I dont have this phone yet. I have a Mi8.
But here is my guess.
They probably dont have full access to source code yet
They are young, but able students so their time is limited.
A lot of the users are highly entitled and dont appreciate their hard work and rarely if ever, make a donation to them so why bother.
Rock Star developers from the past are burned out on making roms, and too busy with professional life projects.
As I mentioned I am considering this phone, and do not know anyone her yet. Hopefully the best developers stick around and build a legacy and loyal/supportive followers.
If you have not tried Xiaomi.EU its pretty fantastic, It's like a much more westernised version of Miui with the most annoying bloat and adware completely removed.

@tsongming has a great point and I'll add that for android 10 there are at least these:
LineageOS 17.1 Unofficial
Evolution-X 4.0 Unofficial
Havoc
Extended UI based
Derpfest
Bootleggers
Paranoid Android Quartz
Pixel experience
and also all the miui variants

As the name says, it's custom, 3rd party, there's no obligation for anyone to make it. Developers make what they want to make. Especially since it's not a paid work, it's totally their choice. Just appreciate that there are some available and give donation if you use them.

xikz said:
@tsongming has a great point and I'll add that for android 10 there are at least these:
LineageOS 17.1 Unofficial
Evolution-X 4.0 Unofficial
Havoc
Extended UI based
Derpfest
Bootleggers
Paranoid Android Quartz
Pixel experience
and also all the miui variants
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The customs that are avaiable, unofficial or not almost all use the same source... thats why they have basicly all the same bugs.
But why they moved to telegram? some off them are fed up with people complaining, although its free off charge and they all do it in spare time. I dont know iff this is the case for majority but for some this is the case.
But i also regret its moved to telegram
But the source code is released only lately so now devs can build better, more stable roms..
Keep in mind i am not a dev off any roms provided above

[ROM] [Work in Progress] [Mantis] LineageOS 14.1 for Fire TV Stick 4K

Hi community!
There is a WIP (Work in Progress) ROM being mainly developed by @Rortiz2 and @diegocr: https://github.com/LOSMantis
Current ROM Status:
- Not Stable
Not Working:
- Sound
- OMX
- Maybe more...
Developers out there that would like to join development are welcome!...
Notice: This is a WIP ROM. It needs to be compile from the source (build steps could be adapted from the Nexus Player https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/fugu/build) if someone wants to try it out. Ready to flash builds would maybe be available when the ROM is more stable. Please do not ask for ETA, it is being developed in the spare time of the developers!

michael.santos said:
Hi community!
Anyone already seen this project on github: https://github.com/LOSMantis ?
It is a shame that this project are not being discussed here on XDA so more devs could help on this project...
Hope this post will "awake" some devs (maybe @Pretoriano80?) for this project...
This can be the project that will free our Fire TV Stick 4k from the crappy FireOS!
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'I believe @diegocr and @Rotiz2 were working on it some and couldn't get the sound to work. Not sure if actively though...

This can be the project that will free our Fire TV Stick 4k from the crappy FireOS!
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FireOS is very well maintained, even the oldest fireTVs/sticks getting still proper updates...

Sus_i said:
FireOS is very well maintained, even the oldest fireTVs/sticks getting still proper updates...
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Yes, but full of bloatware, with some blocking mechanisms or black listed apps, no Google Play Store...
We are not allowed to change the home app easily, to use the standard Android settings without Amazon home app, not install already purchased apps on the Google Play Store and so on...

With root you can disable remove the "bloatware", although personally i dont think there is much i dont use. The fireOS TV is fairly smooth and easy to navigate. The android TV version is worse (IMO, I have a NVidea). You can disable the NIMH app, although i have yet to find any app it is blocking. The play store for androidTV is horrible. LauncherX is fairly easy to install. As with tank and sloan, i would expect issues with roms.

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Rortiz2 said:
Can you and other people (that did this aswell) stop creating threads like this?
We're working on mantis yes but this takes its time...
For now all is working except OMX and Audio so it's not worth to release anything.
We will create the ROM thread when it's enough usable.
Just wait...
Regards.
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Hi Rortiz2,
Why are you so mad about this thread? We did not ask for a working ROM or any release dates and we appreciate all your time and dedication to the project...
As I wrote in the subject, this is a WIP (Work in Progress) ROM... Have seen so many threads like this in other forums here on XDA where the ROM only boots but nothing works...
I have created this thread to allow other devs to join the project (if nobody talks about it, than nobody knows that a project already exists and can not help).
But if you would like to do this project alone, just tell me an I will delete this thread...
Best regards,
Michael

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I got really excited when I saw this thread. I cannot wait for stock Android for the Firestick 4K. I will 100% donate to the dev's who get this working!!

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It's ok, leave the thread here. If somebody wants to help there's no problem.
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Just throwing out an idea here but would getting some kind of test build out help? Perhaps getting some catlogs from the community could help find a solution? Again just throwing an idea out.

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Just throwing out an idea here but would getting some kind of test build out help? Perhaps getting some catlogs from the community could help find a solution? Again just throwing an idea out.
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+1 for a test build, I've got a bricked 4k that boots both the hacked bootloader and TWRP, but whatever image I install has no display...
So I would like to try anything else even if stuff is broken on it (just to see if I can get a display).
thx.

michael.santos said:
Hi community!
Anyone already seen this project on github: https://github.com/LOSMantis ?
It is a shame that this project are not being discussed here on XDA so more devs could help on this project...
Hope this post will "awake" some devs (maybe @Pretoriano80?) for this project...
This can be the project that will free our Fire TV Stick 4k from the crappy FireOS!
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It's at developer's discretion to discuss or release test builds here and considering that this particular rom still has some major bugs (call them deal breakers if you want), then i personally agree with the devs not releasing it yet.
Also, i didn't tested personally, but probably a custom rom like this may also break some features available on stock rom.
This being said, i'm sure that it will be released as soon as the guys behind it will consider it stable enough.
P. S. BTW, thread title is misleading and probably aldo violates XDA rules.

Pretoriano80 said:
It's at developer's discretion to discuss or release test builds here and considering that this particular rom still has some major bugs (call them deal breakers if you want), then i personally agree with the devs not releasing it yet.
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I totally understand and respect that. I did bring up having some kind of developer/user test build done just in case that could help further along getting said bugs fixed by getting catlogs that might help narrow down what is causing the issues. But if the devs feel that doing that would only slow things down (or even not help at all) then I respect that decision.
Also, i didn't tested personally, but probably a custom rom like this may also break some features available on stock rom.
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That's the nature of things when it comes to Lineage OS ROMs (and AOSP in general). Sometimes devs are able to get the ROMs to have nearly all the functionality of the device working... and sometimes not. But I generally prefer Lineage myself due to the overall experience being faster since LOS tends to not have all the bloat that stock ROMs sometimes have - especially Amazon devices which feel so bloated down with garbage I will never use.

Pretoriano80 said:
It's at developer's discretion to discuss or release test builds here and considering that this particular rom still has some major bugs (call them deal breakers if you want), then i personally agree with the devs not releasing it yet.
Also, i didn't tested personally, but probably a custom rom like this may also break some features available on stock rom.
This being said, i'm sure that it will be released as soon as the guys behind it will consider it stable enough.
P. S. BTW, thread title is misleading and probably aldo violates XDA rules.
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Hi Pretoriano80,
As I already replied to one of the devs, I never asked for a release date or ROM for flashing. The title also is marked as WIP (Work in Progress), that means that the ROM is in development and not ready for use...
I have seen that you already made a great job with the custom kernel. Thanks! Would you also like to help this project as it seems it also can use your kernel? Kernel dev with ROM devs would be the best team!
Thanks again to all devs that work hard for releasing new stuff for the Amazon devices...

How's the progress so far?

Looks like nothing much: https://github.com/LOSMantis/android_vendor_amazon_mantis
Too bad !!

dead project ?

I made a test build (with many warnings). Also I used the kernel from @Pretoriano80.
You can download it here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=324510
Please note that I couldn't test this out yet, so be careful of what you do. (Will try it out for myself soon)

Ungeskriptet said:
I made a test build (with many warnings). Also I used the kernel from @Pretoriano80.
You can download it here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=324510
Please note that I couldn't test this out yet, so be careful of what you do. (Will try it out for myself soon)
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it's not worth to test since it's a dead project, it would be more usefull to begin a new project developing LineageOS 16 rom , At least we will be able to use the new Android/Google TV UI.

robin994 said:
it's not worth to test since it's a dead project, it would be more usefull to begin a new project developing LineageOS 16 rom , At least we will be able to use the new Android/Google TV UI.
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LineageOS 16 won't ever be able to happen for the Mantis version because it doesn't support treble, the most it could do is LOS 14.1 since it's a legacy device.