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I know it's VERY early, but that 30% discount at Tmobile is tempting me. But I don't plan on getting a Note 3 or a S4. Currently I'm very happy with my LG G2, although I am considering swapping out to a Nexus 5 depending on what that ends up being.
Anyway I'm trying to find a use for the Gear without a S4/N3. Is there ANY functionality that would prove useful just running it by itself?
Do you guys anticipate any ROMs released in the future to have it work with other Android phones, or just to add stand alone functionality to it? Or is it a totally closed system and hopeless?
Right now it's an n3 or nothing. Have not heard of any roms really
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I know it's VERY early, but that 30% discount at Tmobile is tempting me. But I don't plan on getting a Note 3 or a S4. Currently I'm very happy with my LG G2, although I am considering swapping out to a Nexus 5 depending on what that ends up being.
Anyway I'm trying to find a use for the Gear without a S4/N3. Is there ANY functionality that would prove useful just running it by itself?
Do you guys anticipate any ROMs released in the future to have it work with other Android phones, or just to add stand alone functionality to it? Or is it a totally closed system and hopeless?
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Right now without a compatible device to pair it to you can't even use it as a watch, as the pairing process is what sets the time etc, and there is no way to bypass the screen instructing you to pair it with your device. After it's paired it will function as a watch, camera and pedometer without being connected to the phone but that's about it. No idea on roms but I have heard Samsung will be releasing an SDK for developers to create apps for it.
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Right now it's an n3 or nothing. Have not heard of any roms really
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The app was updated so it can be installed on an S4 from the Samsung store yesterday I believe. Pretty sure it doesn't support all the functions on the S4 tho until it gets 4.3.
Could always get a gear and go into a carrier store and sync on of the GN 3 on display... Jk... Then again it may work. Lol
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Could always get a gear and go into a carrier store and sync on of the GN 3 on display... Jk... Then again it may work. Lol
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It will work :laugh::good:
Was a long-time Android user with several various phones, then switched to an iPhone 5 for a short while, came back to Android with the Note 3 for a while (which I loved), but then switched to the iPhone 5s. After using that for a while I'm thinking about coming back to Android for good. I'm contemplating getting a Note 3 since I knew it so well - even had rooting & ROM flashing down with it. Though about the Note 4 but can't root it. Then thought about the Galaxy s5 or Galaxy s5 Active, but not sure if I want to go back to something I've had experience with it try something new.
I know, I'm kind of all over the place here. I just like trying new tech toys, but iOS 8 sucks and I think I'm done with it.
Would like to hear some s5 users' thoughts/ suggestions. Thanks.
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Was a long-time Android user with several various phones, then switched to an iPhone 5 for a short while, came back to Android with the Note 3 for a while (which I loved), but then switched to the iPhone 5s. After using that for a while I'm thinking about coming back to Android for good. I'm contemplating getting a Note 3 since I knew it so well - even had rooting & ROM flashing down with it. Though about the Note 4 but can't root it. Then thought about the Galaxy s5 or Galaxy s5 Active, but not sure if I want to go back to something I've had experience with it try something new.
I know, I'm kind of all over the place here. I just like trying new tech toys, but iOS 8 sucks and I think I'm done with it.
Would like to hear some s5 users' thoughts/ suggestions. Thanks.
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I love my S5 it's a fantastic device with great battery life a fantastic camera and with root I've debloated the apps I don't use. This of course is just my opinion as I'm sure you'll get others that don't like the S5. Yes bootloader is locked so no AOSP Roms but for me I prefer the stability of T/W.
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Wait and buy a Nexus 6 when it is released.
S5 is a good phone but not worth using an upgrade. My opinion.
Got mine free from Samsung so it's a good free phone. [emoji622]
we own all of the above
My wife and I owned every apple and every s phone between us, her with the iphones me with the s phones.
First off lets talk batteries.
Her Iphone 5S lasts about 8hrs off the charger per day in 1 place without WiFi.
MY S5 is hitting 18hrs on powersave mode streaming Iheart radio in a moving semi truck 514 miles deep off istate 14hrs to 16hrs a day without WiFi UNPLUGGED. All I did else is turn off AT&T apps.
Memory.
I just ordered a 64gig 90mbps sd card.
her new Iphone 6 plus is still only 16gigs.
Freedom of files.
Her Iphones universally BLOCK us from transferring ANY file via USB. You MUST upload your personal information to Itunes then download it all back allowing ALL of it to not only use data but be stored someplace.
S5 has a fire wire USB and transferred over 20 gigs in less than 5 mins (without anyone else seeing my nudy pics.)
ROOTING!
We don't even want to try rooting hers cause she sold her sole to the company store.
I am rooted without triping KNOX and have adaway, root explorer, super user, WiFi tether, Titanium Backup, my choice of any recovery I want to add.
buttons.
Iphones don't have a back key. It's extremely frustrating!
Bluetooth.
All of our S phones have superior compatibility and sound quality over Bluetooth.
OTA
Up until last month Apple never gave her a bad update. Now she has to backup all her files to big brother apple again on iTunes and then reset her phone to fix it to 8.1.
If I get a bad OTA I just flash over a different one from XDA that's better.
These are some of the things I noticed. Hope it helps.
It was announced that Note 5 will get native video calling . I wonder if our Notes will get that feature too?
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I am also wondering about this. Or company users all t-mobile phones and it would be neat to video chat with each other.
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We have something even better, hangout.
re: video calling
darekz said:
It was announced that Note 5 will get native video calling . I wonder if our Notes will get that feature too?
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The Tmobile Note 5 and S6 Edge+ both already have Video Calling.
We just got a BOH4 firmware update a couple days ago which included native video calling.
Have a great evening!
Seriously? We haven't even got the 5.1.1 update still. Keep dreaming if you think Samsung gives a crap about us Note 4 users now that they have the iPhone-esque Note 5 and are wanting all iPhone users to switch to the Note 5.
Whats worse, my girlfriends S6 Edge just updated for video calling and ALL of her icons are now "iPhone-esque" as well, with no way to change them back from what I can see. I am seriously over Samsung with their actions this year. I bought the Note 4 because I DIDN'T want an iPhone! Stop trying to copy them. Seriously. Just STOP!
And before you ask, yes, imad.
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So no video calling at least until 5.1.1 update. ?
Pp.
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Seriously? We haven't even got the 5.1.1 update still. Keep dreaming if you think Samsung gives a crap about us Note 4 users now that they have the iPhone-esque Note 5 and are wanting all iPhone users to switch to the Note 5.
Whats worse, my girlfriends S6 Edge just updated for video calling and ALL of her icons are now "iPhone-esque" as well, with no way to change them back from what I can see. I am seriously over Samsung with their actions this year. I bought the Note 4 because I DIDN'T want an iPhone! Stop trying to copy them. Seriously. Just STOP!
And before you ask, yes, imad.
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Nova Prime. Make your launcher look the way you want it.
I know about all the launchers but it's the fact that Samsung has completely lost focus of the market they have and are now only caring about the iPhone and the people that use them and it sucks when you finally find a great phone and company and they completely do a 180 and start doing all the things you hated about the competition in the first place.
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Seriously? We haven't even got the 5.1.1 update still. Keep dreaming if you think Samsung gives a crap about us Note 4 users now that they have the iPhone-esque Note 5 and are wanting all iPhone users to switch to the Note 5.
Whats worse, my girlfriends S6 Edge just updated for video calling and ALL of her icons are now "iPhone-esque" as well, with no way to change them back from what I can see. I am seriously over Samsung with their actions this year. I bought the Note 4 because I DIDN'T want an iPhone! Stop trying to copy them. Seriously. Just STOP!
And before you ask, yes, imad.
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She can change those icons to whatever she wants through the theme store! There's pretty much anything you can think of in there and plenty of them are free!
Aha yes my first thought as well...however this seems to be a system wide change that even changing themes will not change back. All of the icons are now "bubbled" like the iPhone. Unfortunately changing themes does not change them back :/
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So no video calling at least until 5.1.1 update. ?
Pp.
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Bump. ???
Pp.
I'd rather use Hangouts.
hangouts is crap... google infested crap
everyone has to remember, once Samsung comes out with a new phone, they forget about the previous model, for ex. Note 5 just came out, Note 4 will probably get 1 or 2 updates then its forgotten about....
they been doing that for years, just like HTC, I had just about all the HTC models starting from there first HTC T-Mobile Dash (windows phone) all the way upto the M7... and then I stopped supporting HTC, and this will be my last Samsung phone, I had the S2, S3, NOTE 2, NOTE 3, NOTE 4, and I refused to buy the Note 5....
I bought my 2nd Note 4 less than a month ago, I have my wife my Note 4 and purchased this and Moving on passed SAMSUNG,
If I have to, I will just buy freaking flip phones if I have to, all these smartphone companies come out with a new phone and forget about updating there older models...
I REALLY HATE APPLE STUFF, but one thing I do notice is that they update there devices for the older models with there updates, which is a shame that android phones don't except one.... GOOGLE PHONES.... like NEXUS devices get the updates... well will see what happens....
just frustrated with these companies selling there phones expensive and not support them after you purchase them... they make sooooo muchhhhh money for a device that is really worth less than $200 to make.... we all fall into this hype and make all the executives way to rich....
one way is to just stop buy them....
For myself video calling has never been a must have and when needed I use Skype. At the end I rather have my sd slot than native video calling. Besides its just a matter of time before one of our talented developers add it or more to their roms. Themes and Icons will always be one more reason why Android is better than IOS, in my honest opinion of course.
Well just in case anyone noticed or not, we got video calling on the Note 4 and it works. After 5.1.1 update.
Pp.
Yep, we got it with the 5.1.1 update. Meanwhile, I have no friends on Tmobile with a capable phone.
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Yep, we got it with the 5.1.1 update. Meanwhile, I have no friends on Tmobile with a capable phone.
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Just ordered the wife a N4 to replace her N3 so we'll see how it works shortly.
My wife and I both have Note 4s and the video calling is AWESOME! Its fast and responsive. It has really come a long way. Qik was my first experience ever with vcalling. Hangouts was slow. I'm impressed by this new video calling.
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My wife and I both have Note 4s and the video calling is AWESOME! Its fast and responsive. It has really come a long way. Qik was my first experience ever with vcalling. Hangouts was slow. I'm impressed by this new video calling.
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What about advanced messaging? Does it work? With 3rd party sms apps?
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So I bought a gear s2 I got a hella good deal on. The only reason I got it is because I can use it as a stand alone or Bluetooth.
But I don't like the user interface as much as AW. so I'm thinking about doing a square trade.
What do you guys think? I care nothing about using the net on the watch. Only the Bluetooth and cellular is mandatory for me.
Keep the Gear s2 or trade for urbane 2? (On T-Mobile)
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So I bought a gear s2 I got a hella good deal on. The only reason I got it is because I can use it as a stand alone or Bluetooth.
But I don't like the user interface as much as AW. so I'm thinking about doing a square trade.
What do you guys think? I care nothing about using the net on the watch. Only the Bluetooth and cellular is mandatory for me.
Keep the Gear s2 or trade for urbane 2? (On T-Mobile)
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I can't speak for the S2 since I've never used one, but I like my Urbane 2. I use the cellular feature mainly when I am tracking my runs with GPS and I don't want to carry my phone. I just forward my calls to the watch. I'm still paired to the phone through cell data so I can still send/receive texts and see notifications. I'm using a Truphone SIM in mine (prepaid, 9 cents per minute/text/MB with incoming calls/text free in the US), but I believe the AT&T version also works with T-Mobile if you add it as a phone instead of a wearable. The wearable SIM doesn't seem to work from what I've read.
You have cellular capabilities in your LG Watch Urbane?
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You have cellular capabilities in your LG Watch Urbane?
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Yes. LG Urbane 2. I'm using a Truphone SIM in the watch.
Dankees said:
You have cellular capabilities in your LG Watch Urbane?
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You may already be aware, but just to clarify...I have the LG Urbane 2nd Edition (AT&T version). I do have cell service with this watch. The original LG Urbane does not have cell service.
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You may already be aware, but just to clarify...I have the LG Urbane 2nd Edition (AT&T version). I do have cell service with this watch. The original LG Urbane does not have cell service.
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Oh yea I guess I forgot to say I was specifically looking at the 2nd edition. I guess I'll put my gear s2 on for trade or sale then buy one. I don't like tizen much at all
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Josh McGrath said:
Oh yea I guess I forgot to say I was specifically looking at the 2nd edition. I guess I'll put my gear s2 on for trade or sale then buy one. I don't like tizen much at all
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For my purposes, I love the Urbane 2. I'm not sure how the standalone features compare to the S2. I know the LG needs to be paired, through bluetooth, Wi-Fi or cell data, to use all features like OK Google etc. That isn't an issue for me, but not sure if the S2 has similar requirements. Of course, AW 2.0 might change that soon.
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For my purposes, I love the Urbane 2. I'm not sure how the standalone features compare to the S2. I know the LG needs to be paired, through bluetooth, Wi-Fi or cell data, to use all features like OK Google etc. That isn't an issue for me, but not sure if the S2 has similar requirements. Of course, AW 2.0 might change that soon.
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The s2 is similar but it has their useless svoice and it's not even as good as the phone version. Not even half. Not even comparable to Google now. I believe I will be selling this one for AW with cell capabilities even though I've used that part like twice
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That's exactly what killed the S2 experience for me. Svoice! Can't stress enough how awful it is. I always found myself screaming at the damn thing. I went with Huawei and been in love with Android wear ever since. I know it's probably not what you're looking but I mean to put emphasis on having Google on your wrist and your looking for all the right reasons. Very responsive and knows exactly what you're saying.
Actually I've considered the Huawei but they make awful phones and I am against any Chinese manufacturer because of backdoors... The US specifically pointed out zte and Huawei in fact. But I'm probably being paranoid because I'm sure they all have backdoors . and they would be very bored with my stuff lmao
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hey i am currently on the market for a new phone, i currently have the google pixel xl and i love it, ive heard bad things about the 2xl though with all the problems it has and i dont like the fact that the s9+ is unrootable in america and the international version doesnt work on my carrier sprint because they only support cdma bands and the international version only supports the GSM bands and ive heard the OP6 is terrible from a lot of people so that really just leaves the note 8 but it doesnt seem like theres much as far as development goes for it
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hey i am currently on the market for a new phone, i currently have the google pixel xl and i love it, ive heard bad things about the 2xl though with all the problems it has and i dont like the fact that the s9+ is unrootable in america and the international version doesnt work on my carrier sprint because they only support cdma bands and the international version only supports the GSM bands and ive heard the OP6 is terrible from a lot of people so that really just leaves the note 8 but it doesnt seem like theres much as far as development goes for it
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U.S. snapdragons are also bootloader locked, like the S9s. The international versions are not, and have lots of development in the roms section. Not sure they would work with Sprint either though.
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U.S. snapdragons are also bootloader locked, like the S9s. The international versions are not, and have lots of development in the roms section. Not sure they would work with Sprint either though.
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it makes me wonder though, if i can buy an unlocked phone then why are the bands different? shouldnt an unlocked phone be able to go to any carrier with both gsm and cdma?
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it makes me wonder though, if i can buy an unlocked phone then why are the bands different? shouldnt an unlocked phone be able to go to any carrier with both gsm and cdma?
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I know what you mean, but I guess there are just different phones for different markets. If they are sim unlocked then all it means is that it is not locked to a particular carrier. It doesn't automatically guarantee that it will work with every carrier around the globe, or work in the exact same way. I believe the U.S. Snapdragons have CDMA (unlike Exynos), but I've never used Sprint so can't say for certain how that works. I can't see the Note 8 being different from the S9 in that regard.
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I know what you mean, but I guess there are just different phones for different markets. If they are sim unlocked then all it means is that it is not locked to a particular carrier. It doesn't automatically guarantee that it will work with every carrier around the globe, or work in the exact same way. I believe the U.S. Snapdragons have CDMA (unlike Exynos), but I've never used Sprint so can't say for certain how that works.
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yeah i just looked up their processors and it looks like snapdragon supports gsm and cdma but exynos doesnt support cdma atleast for the s9+ so im still stuck lol it looks like the note 8 you can root on the sprint version but i didnt see too much development for it is snapdragon just unrootable or do you think theyll find a way to root it? i really like the features and things of the s9+ but theres just such an untapped reservoir of potential with not rooting it
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yeah i just looked up their processors and it looks like snapdragon supports gsm and cdma but exynos doesnt support cdma atleast for the s9+ so im still stuck lol it looks like the note 8 you can root on the sprint version but i didnt see too much development for it is snapdragon just unrootable or do you think theyll find a way to root it? i really like the features and things of the s9+ but theres just such an untapped reservoir of potential with not rooting it
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I have an Exynos so I may be mistaken here, but to my knowledge the U.S. snapdragons were able to be rooted on Nougat (even with their locked bootloaders), but it's not possible at the moment on Oreo. That could change, but I don't know how likely (or unlikely) that is. Check out the SamFail thread for more info on root for Snapdragon.
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I have an Exynos so I may be mistaken here, but to my knowledge the U.S. snapdragons were able to be rooted on Nougat (even with their locked bootloaders), but it's not possible at the moment on Oreo. That could change, but I don't know how likely (or unlikely) that is. Check out the SamFail thread for more info on root for Snapdragon.
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the s9+ can be rooted? ill check it out
I am starting to consider the Note 8 as well. I had a Note 3, loved it, had an S7 Edge for a couple years but recently sold that and picked up a Pixel 2 XL. In my case the 2 XL is a great phone, it's fast, stock android is great, but it continually drops the Bluetooth connection to my Gear S3 frontier which is maddening. The S7 Edge was rock solid and never once dropped the connection to the watch, the 2 XL has dropped the connection at least half a dozen times today alone.
$200 off currently on an unlocked Note 8 has me seriously considering returning the 2 XL as I am still within the 30 day return period.
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the s9+ can be rooted? ill check it out
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I don't know about the s9, I was speaking about the note 8.
The most important reason to buy a note series device should be the s pen, in your case, I believe that the spen is not the main reason, so, I would sugest to you to get another device
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I am starting to consider the Note 8 as well. I had a Note 3, loved it, had an S7 Edge for a couple years but recently sold that and picked up a Pixel 2 XL. In my case the 2 XL is a great phone, it's fast, stock android is great, but it continually drops the Bluetooth connection to my Gear S3 frontier which is maddening. The S7 Edge was rock solid and never once dropped the connection to the watch, the 2 XL has dropped the connection at least half a dozen times today alone.
$200 off currently on an unlocked Note 8 has me seriously considering returning the 2 XL as I am still within the 30 day return period.
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I've actually just today considering trading my Unlocked Note 8 for the Google Pixel XL 2 but it didn't go through as planned. I'm really interested in the great camera on the XL 2 and I'd like to try the stock Android experience. Do you only have Bluetooth issues on the gear s3? I have the Fitbit Ionic and use Bluetooth in my truck so if there's a serious Bluetooth issue I'm not so sure anymore. I had the same Bluetooth issues on the LG V20 which is why I got the Note 8.
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I've actually just today considering trading my Unlocked Note 8 for the Google Pixel XL 2 but it didn't go through as planned. I'm really interested in the great camera on the XL 2 and I'd like to try the stock Android experience. Do you only have Bluetooth issues on the gear s3? I have the Fitbit Ionic and use Bluetooth in my truck so if there's a serious Bluetooth issue I'm not so sure anymore. I had the same Bluetooth issues on the LG V20 which is why I got the Note 8.
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Honestly, as much as I love the Pixel 2 XL, the camera is great and stock Android is exactly what I had hoped (no junk apps, nothing I can't remove if I don't want it etc.) the Bluetooth issues are seriously frustrating. What is doubly annoying is that on Monday for example, it disconnected from my Gear S3 at least half a dozen times, but yesterday did not disconnect a single time. If you take a look though, BT connectivity issues definitely plague the 2XL, take a look at this thread for example, started in October last year: https://productforums.google.com/fo...!msg/phone-by-google/-lpPfDGvkNw/hzLdYStbAgAJ As you can see, it is still ongoing and covers all sorts of devices.
I am kind of stuck really, part of me wants to return the phone because I use the Gear S3 far more than I ever expected, taking calls on it is handy if I am in the garage for example and don't have my phone on me, my work calendar syncs to it which is great for quickly checking in the morning on my meetings etc. But, on the flip side the phone is so fast and smooth, that I really enjoy using it.
Overall how do you like the Note 8? I loved my Note 3, one of my favorite phones to date.
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Honestly, as much as I love the Pixel 2 XL, the camera is great and stock Android is exactly what I had hoped (no junk apps, nothing I can't remove if I don't want it etc.) the Bluetooth issues are seriously frustrating. What is doubly annoying is that on Monday for example, it disconnected from my Gear S3 at least half a dozen times, but yesterday did not disconnect a single time. If you take a look though, BT connectivity issues definitely plague the 2XL, take a look at this thread for example, started in October last year: https://productforums.google.com/fo...!msg/phone-by-google/-lpPfDGvkNw/hzLdYStbAgAJ As you can see, it is still ongoing and covers all sorts of devices.
I am kind of stuck really, part of me wants to return the phone because I use the Gear S3 far more than I ever expected, taking calls on it is handy if I am in the garage for example and don't have my phone on me, my work calendar syncs to it which is great for quickly checking in the morning on my meetings etc. But, on the flip side the phone is so fast and smooth, that I really enjoy using it.
Overall how do you like the Note 8? I loved my Note 3, one of my favorite phones to date.
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Thank you for your honesty. I did further research and I found many saying my $300 Fitbit Ionic watch isn't compatible with the Pixel 2 XL, so I'm glad I didn't trade my device yet. The only device I wouldn't mind trading for is the S9+ because I know there won't be any issues with compatibility.
Buy an iphone
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Thank you for your honesty. I did further research and I found many saying my $300 Fitbit Ionic watch isn't compatible with the Pixel 2 XL, so I'm glad I didn't trade my device yet. The only device I wouldn't mind trading for is the S9+ because I know there won't be any issues with compatibility.
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No problem, I wish I had known about the Bluetooth issue before getting my 2XL. I had heard there were some issues but was not expecting it to be quite so extensive. Annoyingly, I may be stuck with the phone as I am a few days outside the 15-day return window, which will leave me just hoping for a fix.
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Buy an iphone
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:laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Buy an iphone
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You sellin?