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When I first heard about OmniROM (which was really by accident) I was excited to see such a talented group of ex-CM developers creating something fresh and new from the ground up. I like choice, which is always good for the users.
A few days ago, I found Omni's feature request list online. Now, I have no idea who submits such requests (all end-users, select end-users, other devs?) but I was seriously disappointed to learn that 98% of the requests aren't original ideas and can be easily found in other ROMs. Some even go as far as writing "I want feature abc, like in ROM xyz."
If you want Pie, Halo, quiet hours, DPI settings, etc. so badly, find another ROM that has those implemented already. How about we let this bunch of talented and smart devs work on original stuff that really sets OmniROM apart from the endless sea of CM me-too's out there? If OmniROM goes down this path, that's what I'm afraid it'll become in the future.
There's only little new stuff, man is not capable of developing brand new ideas, but good at trying to improve his surroundings bit by bit using everything he once found to be good or got used to. That's why man sticks to his habits, and only by combining the well known in a slightly different way he invents new stuff.
What you see here is an evolution of ideas and concepts - I'm sure the debt won't implement everything, they set out to create something new. But apparently many users didn't get the idea. But they still aide the devs by submitting feature requests, so the devs can cherry pick the best ideas and mold them into something new.
Just have some patience and faith they will do so - they're in the business long enough the think for themselves and ignore irrelevant requests in favour of great new stuff, I'd say.
rodrigorajao said:
If you want Pie, Halo, quiet hours, DPI settings, etc. so badly, find another ROM that has those implemented already. How about we let this bunch of talented and smart devs work on original stuff that really sets OmniROM apart from the endless sea of CM me-too's out there? If OmniROM goes down this path, that's what I'm afraid it'll become in the future.
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Omni is so young it misses some obvious functions that have already been implemented elsewhere. Nothing wrong with asking for them. And i'm not talking about peculiar things like custom dpi and Halo, i'm talking about the possibility to rearrange the quick setting tiles for example. Or the possibility to mute a phone call by flipping the phone on the table. That's basic stuff every rom should have.
rodrigorajao said:
When I first heard about OmniROM (which was really by accident) I was excited to see such a talented group of ex-CM developers creating something fresh and new from the ground up. I like choice, which is always good for the users.
A few days ago, I found Omni's feature request list online. Now, I have no idea who submits such requests (all end-users, select end-users, other devs?) but I was seriously disappointed to learn that 98% of the requests aren't original ideas and can be easily found in other ROMs. Some even go as far as writing "I want feature abc, like in ROM xyz."
If you want Pie, Halo, quiet hours, DPI settings, etc. so badly, find another ROM that has those implemented already. How about we let this bunch of talented and smart devs work on original stuff that really sets OmniROM apart from the endless sea of CM me-too's out there? If OmniROM goes down this path, that's what I'm afraid it'll become in the future.
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Most of those feature requests are from users.
Right now, I'm primarily focusing on device bringup and keeping the "core" together. xplodwild is the "ideas man" and the guy who is good with new UI/UX concepts. I prefer to stick down in the kernels/HALs myself.
why implement rebuild if you can smartly re_use what 99% of people want anyways, with opensource it possible.
its.not mutually exclusive, people can still innovate whilst re-using
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ThirdEye_01 said:
Omni is so young it misses some obvious functions that have already been implemented elsewhere. Nothing wrong with asking for them. And i'm not talking about peculiar things like custom dpi and Halo, i'm talking about the possibility to rearrange the quick setting tiles for example. Or the possibility to mute a phone call by flipping the phone on the table. That's basic stuff every rom should have.
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What's Omni missing that's implemented elsewhere? (in KitKat) Tile re-arranging? Flip to dismiss a call? Perhaps it's basic important features for you, but it's impossible to please everybody. We are actually talking about cosmetic stuff.
Elsewhere = CM and the early stage kangs in Resurrection Remix, Temasek, SlimKat, Probam. The difference is that except for CM, the others are free to code dirty to port features from 4.3 while Omni is moving on a slow pace but trying to keep the coding unbloated, rock firm and tidy. I read other ROMs thread and find lots of complaints about huge battery drains and FCs that are most probably due to a hurried and imperfect implementation of features.
Meanwhile, after some weeks of development (taking into accound these guys work on this in their spare time and 100% for free) in Omni (for i9300 at least) we got OpenDelta working like a charm, ActiveDisplay, native kernel tweaks, inmersive mode, native own file manager, fine battery results, and a combo of smoothness and stability that you can't find in any of the named before. And bugs are only the ones shared with every KitKat base which are pretty much only camera problems.
Don't mean to speak less about other ROMs at all, just feeling the need to point out that Omni is by no means behind any other development.
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If you want an all-original ROM, you are free to make one yourself.
I, however, will gratefully accept any awesomeness OmniROM developers throw my way.
I'm getting the N6 tomorrow and it'll be my first rom device in over a year. I'm looking for a rom that's fast, smooth and stable. Features and customizations aren't important as performance and battery.
What do you recommend?
Thanks in advance!
CM12 with Franco Kernel :good:
Rastapop or Terminus rom with Elementalx kernel
simms22 said:
Rastapop or Terminus rom with Elementalx kernel
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I've heard good things about Rastapop. What's your opinion on Chroma?
J.Guido85 said:
I've heard good things about Rastapop. What's your opinion on Chroma?
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Obviously what your suggestions here are going to be biased towards the particular user's experiences.
It's like coming to this forum and asking need a phone suggestion, everybody will suggest a Nexus 6 because it will be biased. My recommendations would be look at all of them (or the ones that interest you) and give it a try.
That's my most unbiased answer. If you're looking for a biased answer then it'd be Chroma because it's a ROM maintained by me and I'm quite passionate about maintaining and providing updates with the newest and latest things that I personally find useful.
J.Guido85 said:
I'm getting the N6 tomorrow and it'll be my first rom device in over a year. I'm looking for a rom that's fast, smooth and stable. Features and customizations aren't important as performance and battery.
What do you recommend?
Thanks in advance!
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I use Chroma Rom atm and its very stable, its close to stock with some nice tweaks and good batterylife imo. Very happy with this rom so far.
zephiK said:
Obviously what your suggestions here are going to be biased towards the particular user's experiences.
It's like coming to this forum and asking need a phone suggestion, everybody will suggest a Nexus 6 because it will be biased. My recommendations would be look at all of them (or the ones that interest you) and give it a try.
That's my most unbiased answer. If you're looking for a biased answer then it'd be Chroma because it's a ROM maintained by me and I'm quite passionate about maintaining and providing updates with the newest and latest things that I personally find useful.
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There's is nothing wrong with recommending your own product. The fact that you took the time to post your opinion is awesome. I know asking people's opinion on roms can be kind of tricky, But It's nice to hear peoples mini review and opinion even if it's, Because they use the Rom.
Question, Do you have a video or tutorial on your Rom, I'm going to run with it, But would like to know more about it and it's features. Thanks!
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There's is nothing wrong with recommending your own product. The fact that you took the time to post your opinion is awesome. I know asking people's opinion on roms can be kind of tricky, But It's nice to hear peoples mini review and opinion even if it's, Because they use the Rom.
Question, Do you have a video or tutorial on your Rom, I'm going to run with it, But would like to know more about it and it's features. Thanks!
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Certainly there is nothing wrong with it but it feels dirty to lead someone onto another person's benefit. I respect honesty and am a honest person by heart. I try my best to give the most unbiased answer to others.
And absolutely, there are two video/reviews of the ROM although they are on older builds of the ROM. You can see a newer updated feature list on the changelog https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c7wNrT0khaipv-M0Z35OPQ8sxPHO-e9-Rk945fo4iJE/edit compared to the date of the video/reading.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZVMRE6oX_A
https://medium.com/phishfi/chroma-by-zephik-a52e33d6e1a8
@Andromjb also has a bunch of other videos of other ROMs if you're interested in seeking what else is out there https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOFywydM2rhaMcriU6A92Q/videos
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I've heard good things about Rastapop. What's your opinion on Chroma?
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ive heard nothing but good things about chroma
J.Guido85 said:
I'm getting the N6 tomorrow and it'll be my first rom device in over a year. I'm looking for a rom that's fast, smooth and stable. Features and customizations aren't important as performance and battery.
What do you recommend?
Thanks in advance!
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I'll suggest you to use Parandroid Android with Fraco Kernel
Best thing to do however is to try out a few roms and keep the one you like most. It all depends on your preferences and usage.
[ROM][Official][5.0.2][Shamu] Dirty Unicorns v9.1 [DU TBO GAPPS]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58245246&postcount=1
Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 6 sous DU Shamu 5.0.2 LRX22G (100% FR)
@J.Guido85 Your ROM choice will come down to your preference. Do you want a minimalistic or feature packed ROM? Chroma will in fact give you the most features along with some of the best performance/battery life available. Rastapop will offer you a very light feature set as it is a very minimal but stable ROM.
If you're in fact looking for a ROM that will give you the best features & performance on the N6, Chroma is definitely among the top N6 ROM's in terms of great support, features, stability, and battery life. I've been personally using Chroma has my daily driver ever since flashing it well over a month ago, it continues to impress with every update.
I have a YouTube channel with a lot of Nexus 6 ROM overviews you can check out if you want here. I update weekly.
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@Andromjb also has a bunch of other videos of other ROMs if you're interested in seeking what else is out there https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOFywydM2rhaMcriU6A92Q/videos
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Thanks for the mention! I have an up to date review of Chroma setting on my drive, just haven't had the time to edit & upload yet.
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Features and customizations aren't important as performance and battery.
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You do realise that performance and battery are opposite ends of the same scale? And that bias towards one is bias away from the other? Also that every kernel can be tweaked to bias towards either as much as you want?
Basically I'm saying they're all the same if you know what you're doing. Choose based on features then tweak to performance OR battery
Which is the best custom ROM I can choose for my OnePlus 3T?
Priorities :
Camera (on par with stock oos)
Customization
Dash charge compatible
I'm in stock oos but I want to explore custom ROM without compromising on the above priorities.
Somehow are all the available ROMS customizable in their own way. Some more and some less. That's why you need to know what you are looking for. Let's start with the camera. Camera quality is the best on OOS PERIOD ! So if camera is really important to you you should stick with OOS.
Customization : OOS is plenty customizable in my opinion because it has that stock feel with the adition of beeing able to black the living hell out of everything with substratum. But again that's how I prefer it. Stock but blacked out. If you feel like you need that kind of customization like from RR with fling and stuff then go for it.
Dash Charge : 99% (because I'm not sure about all of the available ROMS) of the available ROMS are Dash Charge compatible so that shouldn't be a deal breaker since almost every ROM supports it.
Regards, Talpes
Best= https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...development/rom-resurrection-remix-m-t3399960
Camera quality is still good. Its not much worse than oos.
People who didnt try a custom rom always thing the camera is total crap but thats not the case.
How many "best ROM" threads do we need? There was already a thread like this posted earlier today, by another user too lazy to just look at the existing discussion, or just to decide for themselves.
There is no such thing as a "best ROM" for all people. Everyone uses their device differently, and has different individual preferences and needs. If there was a single "best ROM" then there would never be a need for any others. The variety and choice exists for a reason.
to make it easier on everyone lets keep this topic in one location. please discuss what rom you thing is the best and why, and remember to be respectful.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/best-rom-saves-battery-t3605467
This is not a place to compare roms, but a place to share your experience with your current daily driver on your Oneplus 5.
What rom are you currently using?
How do you like it?
What is your overall experience with it?
Are you using it with a specific kernel or the built-in one?
Would you recommend it to someone?
Etc...
Let discussion begin!
Note: I think having a thread like this can help keeping development threads clean.
Good initiative!
I tried many Roms and Kernels since I've got my OP5 about an week and a half ago.
First thing i was getting rid of the "buggy" official stock rom haha. I played with it for a vew hours and gave in. Than i was preparing everything for unlocking, rooting etc..etc... It was easier than i thought! Didn't expect it!
First ROM i flashed was an unreleased BETA build from a team i being part off. Just to getting used to this device and playing aLOT with an optimized Kernel (also an build by the Team Dev) after a vew days, i was trying other ROMs, i mean no Roms that where close or based on stock OOS. More based on AOSP and LOS.
After a couple of days, i found my right ROM and Kernel combination so i ended up with:
"RR Unofficial" with "Blu_Sparky" Kernel!
I like the debloated version of RR and the battery friendly and easy tunable Blu_Spark Kernel with EX Manager.
I get about 9-10 hours SOT, since I'm not an heavy multitasker or gamer. Besides that, i'm facing no errors, no random reboots, no screen blackouts, or whatsoever! It is for me the Stable Combination!
Currently I'm waiting for an Android 8 Build by the Team Dev. Which is also going to be an AOSP based Rom with "hopefully" aLOT of Optimizations!
Easy does it
Edit: This was a newbie post. I won't recommend this anymore, since it is outdated and whatsoever...
lekiaM said:
Good initiative!
I tried many Roms and Kernels since I've got my OP5 about an week and a half ago.
First thing i was getting rid of the "buggy" official stock rom haha. I played with it for a vew hours and gave in. Than i was preparing everything for unlocking, rooting etc..etc... It was easier than i thought! Didn't expect it!
First ROM i flashed was an unreleased BETA build from a team i being part off. Just to getting used to this device and playing aLOT with an optimized Kernel (also an build by the Team Dev) after a vew days, i was trying other ROMs, i mean no Roms that where close or based on stock OOS. More based on AOSP and LOS.
After a couple of days, i found my right ROM and Kernel combination so i ended up with:
"RR Unofficial" with "Blu_Sparky" Kernel!
I like the debloated version of RR and the battery friendly and easy tunable Blu_Spark Kernel with EX Manager.
I get about 9-10 hours SOT, since I'm not an heavy multitasker or gamer. Besides that, i'm facing no errors, no random reboots, no screen blackouts, or whatsoever! It is for me the Stable Combination!
Currently I'm waiting for an Android 8 Build by the Team Dev. Which is also going to be an AOSP based Rom with "hopefully" aLOT of Optimizations!
Easy does it
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Thanks a lot for sharing your experience with us. That's helpful! :good:
My first ever Android device was a Nexus 6P, and I ran only Pure Nexus on it. I then moved to the Pixel XL, and also primarily ran Pure Nexus. After basically two years of running an AOSP based ROM, I had only good opinions on AOSP based ROMs.
Because development seemed a little tricky for Pixels, I decided to switch over to the OnePlus 5. I, then, flashed a handful of AOSP based ROMs, hoping I would receive the same stability, smoothness, and just the right amount of features Pure Nexus has.
The results didn't seem to be the same. I am by no means bashing on, hating, or criticizing any AOSP based ROM that is available for this device, but I personally just did not feel the same smoothness as I did on Pure Nexus. I decided to try LOS based ROMs, and the unofficial RR has by far been the best!
It's smooth, stable, and very snappy. There is one thing that "bugs" me though (excuse the pun lol):
The VPN icon doesn't hide, unless you disable and reenable something else in the SystemUI tuner. This workaround only lasts until you restart the phone, or even restart the SystemUI
Another thing worth noting (which isn't a bug), there are some unneeded apps that I have to manually uninstall with TitaniumBackup, such as the Music app, the file explorer, and the default phone and contacts app (among a couple others). Very small inconvenience and it's not enough to keep me away from the ROM lol.
Other than that, it's an amazing ROM, especially because it already comes with a custom kernel, and YouTube AdBlock/Background Playback!
Going back to the AOSP based ROMs, just to further reinforce that I'm not trying to bash these ROMs: OnePlus 5 is still a relatively new device, and development is probably still in its early stages; I'll definitely give those ROMs another try down the road, and see how my experience is then.
Also, I wasn't on those ROMs for too long, so maybe I just didn't allow the OS to "settle". Not sure if this is even a real thing, but I've heard other users mentioning letting a fresh install of an OS "settle" before truly making any critiques/comments.
As for OOS based ROMs, I was on stock for a very short amount of time, and I also tried xXx, both great ROMs (especially xXx). However,when you have as many features/customization options as RR has, it's hard to use anything OOS-based, especially because there is no full Substratum support (which is super important to me).
Hope this helped!
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My first ever Android device was a Nexus 6P, and I ran only Pure Nexus on it. I then moved to the Pixel XL, and also primarily ran Pure Nexus. After basically two years of running an AOSP based ROM, I had only good opinions on AOSP based ROMs.
Because development seemed a little tricky for Pixels, I decided to switch over to the OnePlus 5. I, then, flashed a handful of AOSP based ROMs, hoping I would receive the same stability, smoothness, and just the right amount of features Pure Nexus has.
The results didn't seem to be the same. I am by no means bashing on, hating, or criticizing any AOSP based ROM that is available for this device, but I personally just did not feel the same smoothness as I did on Pure Nexus. I decided to try LOS based ROMs, and the unofficial RR has by far been the best!
It's smooth, stable, and very snappy. There is one thing that "bugs" me though (excuse the pun lol):
The VPN icon doesn't hide, unless you disable and reenable something else in the SystemUI tuner. This workaround only lasts until you restart the phone, or even restart the SystemUI
Another thing worth noting (which isn't a bug), there are some unneeded apps that I have to manually uninstall with TitaniumBackup, such as the Music app, the file explorer, and the default phone and contacts app (among a couple others). Very small inconvenience and it's not enough to keep me away from the ROM lol.
Other than that, it's an amazing ROM, especially because it already comes with a custom kernel, and YouTube AdBlock/Background Playback!
Going back to the AOSP based ROMs, just to further reinforce that I'm not trying to bash these ROMs: OnePlus 5 is still a relatively new device, and development is probably still in its early stages; I'll definitely give those ROMs another try down the road, and see how my experience is then.
Also, I wasn't on those ROMs for too long, so maybe I just didn't allow the OS to "settle". Not sure if this is even a real thing, but I've heard other users mentioning letting a fresh install of an OS "settle" before truly making any critiques/comments.
As for OOS based ROMs, I was on stock for a very short amount of time, and I also tried xXx, both great ROMs (especially xXx). However,when you have as many features/customization options as RR has, it's hard to use anything OOS-based, especially because there is no full Substratum support (which is super important to me).
Hope this helped!
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Well elaborated. And as you know the device is very new, so hopefully custom roms will become more and more stable with time.
Thanks for sharing!
Share about your daily driver experience here. We want to hear how much you are enjoying your OP5.
I used Nexus 6p before i bought the OP5 and I think OxygenOS is one of the best roms build by a hardware building company. After some months I started to switch my kernel because I had a little bit drain and started to read in Xda what could help and now I am at my best every day use combination and it is OOS plus blu_spark it works stable and I can underclock it easily because I am a light user: Browsing, WhatsApp and Phone call sometimes Maps that's all what I need and this combo lifts my usage to 2 full days. I am not an SOT guy so the lowest Screen Off Drain is my Must Have.
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I used Nexus 6p before i bought the OP5 and I think OxygenOS is one of the best roms build by a hardware building company. After some months I started to switch my kernel because I had a little bit drain and started to read in Xda what could help and now I am at my best every day use combination and it is OOS plus blu_spark it works stable and I can underclock it easily because I am a light user: Browsing, WhatsApp and Phone call sometimes Maps that's all what I need and this combo lifts my usage to 2 full days. I am not an SOT guy so the lowest Screen Off Drain is my Must Have.
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Thanks for sharing!
Just a quick update on my daily driver:
In my previous post I mentioned being on RR Unofficial, but since then I have switched to Pure Fusion!
As you know from my previous post, I'm a huge PureNexus fan and Pure Fusion is based on that, so I flashed it in a heartbeat.
That with the stock kernel has been amazing, as I feel it provides just the right amount of features I'll most likely be sticking to this ROM for as long as I own this device!
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Just a quick update on my daily driver:
In my previous post I mentioned being on RR Unofficial, but since then I have switched to Pure Fusion!
As you know from my previous post, I'm a huge PureNexus fan and Pure Fusion is based on that, so I flashed it in a heartbeat.
That with the stock kernel has been amazing, as I feel it provides just the right amount of features I'll most likely be sticking to this ROM for as long as I own this device!
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Great to hear that. How do you find Pure Fusion compared to PureNexus you used to use?
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Great to hear that. How do you find Pure Fusion compared to PureNexus you used to use?
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As far as I can tell, it's pretty much identical. The settings for the ROM have the same UI, very similar set of features; maybe just a little more than PureNexus!
It's also fast, smooth and stable like PureNexus as well
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As far as I can tell, it's pretty much identical. The settings for the ROM have the same UI, very similar set of features; maybe just a little more than PureNexus!
It's also fast, smooth and stable like PureNexus as well
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Nice! Are you using N or O? How's signal?
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Nice! Are you using N or O? How's signal?
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I'm on N as there is no O build available just yet. Signal is completely fine, but I believe there were a couple of users having issues with signal strength.
I've encountered no bugs or issues thus far. I did have random reboots but a clean flash seemed to have helped
Since I got my first android phone I always loved custom roms. They really changed your phone out of the box. But it seems like with the 6T that has kind of changed.
1. AOSP Gestures
Compared to OOS, AOSP gestures are terrible in the sense they feel "stiff". OOS gestures are smooth and easy to get accustomed to. Although there are apps to kind of replicate it, on AOSP it still doesn't feel the same. The little things like the animation of the app minimizing when you swipe up to the app switcher make a difference.
2. Fingerprint Reader
This is a very hit or miss subject with more misses than hits. I guess this can be chalked up to implementation still being fairly new, but I have tried so many roms and the FP reader works well until it doesn't. And when it doesn't work, it is bad. Screen flickering/darkening, random reboot, & a number of other weird glitches have deemed it unstable for me. Of course the alternative is to use a pin or something, but why if it is there?
3. Nothing "Just Right"
I used to have a Samsung Galaxy and that device had a number of roms for exactly what you wanted. With the 6T it seems like you only have two options. Either you get a stable stripped down rom, that offers nothing special except moving the clock around on the status bar, or you can get a rom w/100+ features and customizations that crashes at least 10 times a day. There doesn't seem to be a rom that has the balance of useful features and stability.
4. Custom Rom ➝ OOS = WIPE EVERYTHING!
I like trying new roms. Keeping my phone fresh and different is exciting, but it is now more difficult than ever it seems. Going from Rom to Rom is easy, but if I ever want to get back to OOS that usually involves wiping all data or even whipping out the good 'ol MSM tool because something went wrong. This whole new A/B Partion recovery nonsense has put a road block into this. There are 100s of instructions on how to make and restore a nandroid backup, but nobody has been able to do it.
5. No More Innovation/Uniqueness
It seems like every 6T rom is just a 'copy & paste' job with a different name. Gone are the days of groundbreaking roms and features. Dynamic System Bars, Pie Controls, Theme Engine, etc... these are just a few things that used to be unique and game changers. Now it's just moving icons around and remapping buttons.
I know this will all change, but for now OOS + Root + Magisk is more than enough.
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Since I got my first android phone I always loved custom roms. They really changed your phone out of the box. But it seems like with the 6T that has kind of changed.
1. AOSP Gestures
Compared to OOS, AOSP gestures are terrible in the sense they feel "stiff". OOS gestures are smooth and easy to get accustomed to. Although there are apps to kind of replicate it, on AOSP it still doesn't feel the same. The little things like the animation of the app minimizing when you swipe up to the app switcher make a difference.
2. Fingerprint Reader
This is a very hit or miss subject with more misses than hits. I guess this can be chalked up to implementation still being fairly new, but I have tried so many roms and the FP reader works well until it doesn't. And when it doesn't work, it is bad. Screen flickering/darkening, random reboot, & a number of other weird glitches have deemed it unstable for me. Of course the alternative is to use a pin or something, but why if it is there?
3. Nothing "Just Right"
I used to have a Samsung Galaxy and that device had a number of roms for exactly what you wanted. With the 6T it seems like you only have two options. Either you get a stable stripped down rom, that offers nothing special except moving the clock around on the status bar, or you can get a rom w/100+ features and customizations that crashes at least 10 times a day. There doesn't seem to be a rom that has the balance of useful features and stability.
4. Custom Rom ➝ OSS = WIPE EVERYTHING!
I like trying new roms. Keeping my phone fresh and different is exciting, but it is now more difficult than ever it seems. Going from Rom to Rom is easy, but if I ever want to get back to OOS that usually involves wiping all data or even whipping out the good 'ol MSM tool because something went wrong. This whole new A/B Partion recovery nonsense has put a road block into this. There are 100s of instructions on how to make and restore a nandroid backup, but nobody has been able to do it.
5. No More Innovation/Uniqueness
It seems like every 6T rom is just a 'copy & paste' job with a different name. Gone are the days of groundbreaking roms and features. Dynamic System Bars, Pie Controls, Theme Engine, etc... these are just a few things that used to be unique and game changers. Now it's just moving icons around and remapping buttons.
I know this will all change, but for now OOS + Root + Magisk is more than enough.
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1. Fluid navigation gestures
2. Hit or miss on OSS
3. AOSIP
4. Reboot recovery... Factory reset.. Flash OOS..flash twrp reboot
5. AOSIP brings stability and android q features.. Kinda still agree with you though
Just my little 2 cents from when I was still rocking the 6t. I have 7pro now but thankfully AOSIP is already there too. But I can only imagine that development here has only dug further and provides an even better experience since I was here last
Lol. Oos sucks. Try aosip, you won't be disappointed.
Oos all the way! I have tried most custom roms, and while most are really good, but can't get through a day without jonesing to get back on Oos. I breathe a sigh of relief when I'm back using their gesture nav. We need to find ATL4ANTIS and beg him to build a CATACLYSM rom for the 6t! That rom on the Nexus 5 is still to this day the best custom i have ever used!
I have to agree with the OP, I've been flashing ROMs going back to the mytouch 4g and htc hero. Honestly this is the first phone I've owned where I really haven't felt the urge to go beyond root and substratum for more theming options of third party apps. It's nice there are some options out there, but OOS is there first rom I've used that felt mostly complete and not something patched together from bits and pieces. It's fast and smooth and battery is pretty good right out of the box. I keep ending up back on OOS, throwing on few root apps, change up the theme a bit and throw a slightly and I mean slightly better kernel and call it good.
Gotta respect your point of view,nicely written article.
Tho I'm using OmniRom Treskmod at the moment. OOS has also come a long way from what it was during Oreo days and safe to say you can easily live without a custom ROM on a 1+ device. The reason I'm using Treskmod atm because I was bored of OOS UI. Might be switching back to OOS soon
Cataclysm rocked. Loved that on my old Nexus 6.
The main reason I don't root, unlock, custom rom is I'm just too flippin' old and tired at the end of the day to
jack with it anymore. I use to flash all sorts of custom roms, back in the days of my HTC tilt phones, but since
android 4.3, I haven't felt the need to root or custom flash.
Hey, at least we have the ability to do so, but for me, end of the work day and weekend, I rarely touch my phone.
The main reason I don't switch to a custom rom is AOSP Gestures
I mostly agree with you! I like flashing ROMs but always come back to oos after a week max.
There are always some hiccups here are there, some are worse than others. Oos is just what I consider as stable.
ogkillergreen said:
Since I got my first android phone I always loved custom roms. They really changed your phone out of the box. But it seems like with the 6T that has kind of changed.
I know this will all change, but for now OOS + Root + Magisk is more than enough.
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OOS is a tight, well-designed OS.
For now, OOS, TWRP, and Magisk are sufficient for me.
@ogkillergreen;
Here is my question to you...
What are you looking for as far as unique features.
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@ogkillergreen;
Here is my question to you...
What are you looking for as far as unique features.
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Some of the things I looked for was better battery, lockscreen mods such as lockscreen rotation, changing of lockscreen shortcuts. Bring able to change location of status bar elements. Blurring if background for recents UI, quick settings UI. General ability to customize. Granted OOS doesn't have most of these, but it brings enough to the table that I'm not feeling the urge to go through all the steps needed to get them with a custom ROM. The ROMs I have tried while all good, tend to feel like something is lost in translation. May not be your experience but hey... It's how I feel. Out of all the stock ROMs on all the various flavors of devices I've owned going back to the HTC MyTouch 4G with Sense 1, OOS is the only one that has just enough customisation in it whilst remaining out of my way.
I don't necessarily disagree with you. I just wondered what features he was looking for that are not in ROMS now. You gave great examples. Especially the lock screen one, I have not seen that one before.
I Couldn't Agree Any More with You
I was going to share a post very similar to this one of these days sooner or later and you basically took the words right out of my mouth.
Back before I got the OP6T, I loved rooting and installing custom ROMs on my previous phones, all the way back from my Moto X (Original) Developer's Edition, to the LG Nexus 5X, and to the LG G6 (this one was a toughy), I enjoyed trying out different custom ROMs and seeing their unique features or customizability that they could bring to the table.
But with Oxygen OS, I just keep coming back to it! At first I couldn't quite place what it was exactly, but it's just as OP put it. The gestures (so nice. Fluid is a good alternative, but I don't think it quite compares to OP's nav gestures. Sure some customizability would be nice, but it just works.) The FP reader is kind of a big one and even though FP support was eventually brought to custom ROMs, they're still iffy and buggy. I thought at first I wouldn't mind them, and I didn't, but I just missed it in the end. With the nothing "just right" is what I agree with the most. OOS just feels something unlike other stock firmwares out there and it just feels smooth. One example is Nova Launcher. I've been such a huge fan of Nova for so long and the customizability is amazing, but the OnePlus launcher also replaces it for me! It all kind of "just works". For your point on going from custom ROM to OOS wipes everything, I've always accepted the fact that if I'm switching ROMs around, an easy mistake comes with a wipe, so I don't mind that. And with your fifth point, I think that's only because of us growing old of what seemed new or was more active while it existed. Newer updates for Android with security hinder modding and though we keep finding new ways to root and mod, it often just pushed developers away. Hopefully we'll see more innovation, but for the time being I do feel like it's in a state of limbo, or at least slowing down.
I will put in one more chance into AOSIP as people are saying, but right now, OOS with theOneOS, Magisk, Root, and EdXposed satisfy my needs.
I also see people asking OP what they seek in custom ROMs and from my point of view, I seek some originality and uniqueness. Something that persuades me to keep utilizing that ROM instead of pushing me away. I love customizing and ROMs like RR, Omni, BootLeggers are good examples but they lack a solid foundation of what they used to be. They're just cherry picked mods from other custom ROMs, or unofficial ports with stability improvements but that also comes rarely.
One more comment and to close it off: I'm a consumer. I believe that I definitely do know that I have an above average knowledge of how Android, modding, and all that works. I do know that it is hard work to code and create custom ROMs. I haven't personally contributed in doing anything because I simply don't have the time. I'd certainly try to if I did have the time, but I don't. It is appreciated for devs to release custom ROMs, but I feel like it is lacking. I don't mean any offense to anyone, and I hope people do respond in order for conversation or argument. I'd like to see what other people think.
TL;DR: OnePlus somehow just sucks me back into OOS in every way possible. Custom ROMs feel lacking.
@ogkillergreen i couldnt agree more. I laughed at my friend who jumped to One Plus before me when he told me how amazing OOS was. When I got the OP6t, i was blown away at what OP has done. I have been flashing ROMS and mods since the OG Droid Days. Never have I kept a stock rom as my main, not to mention as my preference. On the 6t, while ive tried most roms, its not been worth the trade-offs yet. the clock in status bar on oos bugs the pi$$ out of me. (align right would have been a good option for one plus to put in) but if thats my only gripe in UI, its near perfect *for me*. Every custom rom i tried drank battery compared to OOS. Especially compared to OOS with Omega kernel. my best battery life on an android device ever was with the 5/29 build of omega on stock 9.0.14.
I get it, though. Some people are convinced AOSP-based is always better, more feature laden, and simply faster. I was one of those people. The OP6T has swayed my opinion forever. Stock is no longer a dirty word to me. Especially when coupled with a few magisk modules and Omega kernel.
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@ogkillergreen;
Here is my question to you...
What are you looking for as far as unique features.
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It's not so much of unique features, it's more of just frustration in seeing the same features on every rom. Before I open a thread for a rom I already know what will be on the features list. You could post a features list from a rom and I would not be able to tell you which rom it's from. I am looking for something that stands out from the rest, but not in a gimmick like way.
ogkillergreen said:
It's not so much of unique features, it's more of just frustration in seeing the same features on every rom. Before I open a thread for a rom I already know what will be on the features list. You could post a features list from a rom and I would not be able to tell you which rom it's from. I am looking for something that stands out from the rest, but not in a gimmick like way.
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BootLeggers has some sick themes and other UI Related stuff up its sleeve it also has Minimal Customization and is Stable. If you want a good Custom ROM I'd recommend BootLeggers. But yeah Stock OOS Beta + Magisk & Subs is enough for me.
Surprised you haven't mentioned loss of Widevine L1 as the number one reason to stick with stock OOS
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Surprised you haven't mentioned loss of Widevine L1 as the number one reason to stick with stock OOS
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I think that is always a good reason to stay stock, but don't you lose that by just unlocking your bootloader?