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Rooted/Nandroid with Bootstrapped Recovery..
I was in the car today,device charged about 40%, noticed the Bionic (for the first time) spontaneously booted. Got the boot screen icon, then black.
Went home, pulled the battery, put in the dock, nothing. Battery back in, nothing.
I think I've eliminated the battery as the cause.
Called Verizon, level 2 tech, offered to send a replacement; I opted to go the the brick and mortar store in the AM so as not to wait for 2 days.
Three questions:
Any chance that this is software related? Rooting app or Bootstrap app related? I think not, as in the dock without a battery it should at least start to light up, no?
If I'm correct, am I in jeopardy of voiding my warranty as the phone's rooted? (Not that they could tell).. ?
Anything else to try b4 swapping the phone?
Thx
Alan
arcopress said:
Any chance that this is software related? Rooting app or Bootstrap app related? I think not, as in the dock without a battery it should at least start to light up, no?
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No, MOST* smart phones cannot run on AC power alone. They require some charge on the battery in order to boot.
*added the emphasis before someone comes running in because their OG Droid/Nexus One/RAZR/POS flip phone/whatever could run off AC power alone.
arcopress said:
If I'm correct, am I in jeopardy of voiding my warranty as the phone's rooted? (Not that they could tell).. ?
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Rooting your device may void your warranty. Most of the time if it's a physical problem and not related to software, the warranty will still be honored. However, it'll probably be an uphill fight.
arcopress said:
Anything else to try b4 swapping the phone?
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I'd try to get ahold of another battery. I'm willing to bet that yours is defective.
I thought that the Bionic would light up in the dock with the battery removed?
alan
arcopress said:
I thought that the Bionic would light up in the dock with the battery removed?
alan
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Why would it?
The dock is just an AC charger with a stand.
Try fastboot. Rsd lite. Fxz file
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With my Droid X and a dead battery the phone would have to sit about 5 minutes and charge before it would come on at all. Wall charger, not USB via computer.
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its true that the bionic will have to charge for at least a couple minuets to turn back on. i have run mine totally dead and it will not power up untill it has charged for at least three to five plus minuets. although it will light up about three seconds after the charger is pluged in and even show the battery pic and charging. first thing you need to do is with battery back in the phone and a regular charging cable pluged in the phone other end, usb, pluged into your computer run adb or what ever you use and find out if it showes any devices at all being connected. you should be able to see this in the rds also. run rds app, then plug in phone using a rear usb port
jess086 said:
its true that the bionic will have to charge for at least a couple minuets to turn back on. i have run mine totally dead and it will not power up untill it has charged for at least three to five plus minuets. although it will light up about three seconds after the charger is pluged in and even show the battery pic and charging. first thing you need to do is with battery back in the phone and a regular charging cable pluged in the phone other end, usb, pluged into your computer run adb or what ever you use and find out if it showes any devices at all being connected. you should be able to see this in the rds also. run rds app, then plug in phone using a rear usb port
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yep, it's true.
I ran my bionic's battery dry the first day I had it. I was trippin out thinking it was broken or something.
After about 5-10 min of charging, I noticed it had a charging Icon.
I realized that I was upset over nothing.
I put it in the wall charger for the 10th time and noticed after about 10 minutes that it lit up with the boot screen, then the battery icon, which showed 0 percent... then it died. So it does look to be the battery. That's good news, I guess. Should I try to get a replacement from VZW, or spare the cross-exam about rooting and fork out the cash for a new battery?
If you want to spare yourself of the cross exam about root, get a new extended battery. Or if you firmly believe that the battery was defective to begin with, then stand your ground and ask that you be given a new one.
You should be fine taking it in. I would do what has been stated and just get a new battery because if it isn't that then it is a hardware issue and that isn't the roots fault anyways.
Also as a kind of FYI thing, Verizon does not do in store warranty replacements anymore(an exception being if you're within the 14day WFG period and the phone is ruled DOA). VZW, in store, does 5 day(overnight if you have insurance) shipping for free. If you want it sooner, you pay the shipping cost. Further, warranty replacement phones do not come with a new battery. They use the old phone's battery.
Where I'm going with this is always start with the battery in situations like this. That can be warrantied in store on the spot. Also make sure you're going to a corporate location.
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Like most cell phone batteries, they aren't designed to be completely drained.
I recommend charging it full, waiting tell it gets to about 10%, then charge it fully one more time.
After that charge, your battery should last you all day.
No need to waste money on an extend battery.
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Don't worry, you're not the first to have a dead phone. I had to go get a new one after three days.
Couldn't get booted past Motorola splash through any method, and an unlocked bootloader may have helped. But, in the past, and Verizon was happy to hand over a new one.
Wish I had more useful information, but I don't. So, good luck on getting your beast tamed.
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Update...
Went to the VZW store at 9... tech swapped out the battery for a new one. NO GOOD. Nothing.
Probably a good thing, as this way they couldn't void the warranty when they discovered it was rooted
Replaced the phone (17 days after purchase; had to get the mgr to approve a swap)..
Restoring apps as we speak..
Makes one wonder what's up with Motorola's QC dept.
I just picked up a G1 from a going out of business sale for $2.00 and it did not have a battery or charger. The cord was present, so I plugged it in to my usb charger for my lg g2x and it would not power on.
I assumed that since my lg g2x would power on without the battery, so too the g1 would do the same.
Am I right? Should the g1 power on even without a battery?
I am going to purchase a battery but was wanting to see if someone would validate that it doesn't turn on....if it does turn on then my $2.00 g1 just became a paper weight.
Your help is much appreciated.
Thanks.
dogfest15 said:
I just picked up a G1 from a going out of business sale for $2.00 and it did not have a battery or charger. The cord was present, so I plugged it in to my usb charger for my lg g2x and it would not power on.
I assumed that since my lg g2x would power on without the battery, so too the g1 would do the same.
Am I right? Should the g1 power on even without a battery?
I am going to purchase a battery but was wanting to see if someone would validate that it doesn't turn on....if it does turn on then my $2.00 g1 just became a paper weight.
Your help is much appreciated.
Thanks.
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No it doesnt turn on without battery.
Seeing that this thread asked a simple yes/no question and was viewed 72 with no answer says something about SOME people in this community. But if you need help with flashing or some sort, just ask the devs . they'll be more than haply to help. Enjoy your g1.
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I'm trying to help a friend who has a moto x. Her phone just isn't charging at all. I connect it to a computer and the pc sees a device connected, but cant figure out what it is. I've tried connecting it to a wall charger, and while the phone can see the charger in the boot choice mode, its just not taking a charge. Any ideas? I've told her to take it back to where she got it, but is this a common problem?
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I'm trying to help a friend who has a moto x. Her phone just isn't charging at all. I connect it to a computer and the pc sees a device connected, but cant figure out what it is. I've tried connecting it to a wall charger, and while the phone can see the charger in the boot choice mode, its just not taking a charge. Any ideas? I've told her to take it back to where she got it, but is this a common problem?
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I dont think its a common problem. Could be a faulty device
Prestige_DOPE said:
I dont think its a common problem. Could be a faulty device
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That's what I'm hoping. Don't want to have her stuck with a lemon or having to deal with Moto's customer service. I've heard nothing but horror stories. So I'm hoping the store she got it from doesn't give her any trouble replacing it. She didn't care about customization and just got the stock white one the stores get for quick sales.
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That's what I'm hoping. Don't want to have her stuck with a lemon or having to deal with Moto's customer service. I've heard nothing but horror stories. So I'm hoping the store she got it from doesn't give her any trouble replacing it. She didn't care about customization and just got the stock white one the stores get for quick sales.
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Well it does have a 2 year warranty
How long has she had it?
Which cable are you using to charge it? I've cruised a few forums and found a lot of people said that it wouldn't charge unless they used the original charging cable. I don't know why that is, but in my experience I've had the same thing happen with only one other cable and the phone refused to charge. Brought it home and used the original charger and boom! Booted up right away.
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Which cable are you using to charge it? I've cruised a few forums and found a lot of people said that it wouldn't charge unless they used the original charging cable. I don't know why that is, but in my experience I've had the same thing happen with only one other cable and the phone refused to charge. Brought it home and used the original charger and boom! Booted up right away.
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I use cords and wall chargers made for all sorts of devices ...they all charge my X.
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I use cords and wall chargers made for all sorts of devices ...they all charge my X.
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Maybe my other cables are just having issues then. Wouldn't be the first time....
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Something that has been bugging me since I got this phone, is that neither the charger that came with it, nor the Verizon car charger they sold me, plug fully into the device.
Is anyone else's like this? Or did I get a factory defect?
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Something that has been bugging me since I got this phone, is that neither the charger that came with it, nor the Verizon car charger they sold me, plug fully into the device.
Is anyone else's like this? Or did I get a factory defect?
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Might need to see photos to understand what you're talking about, but I've never seen a Micro USB (Or Mini USB for that matter) Plug fully into anything.
This is fully inserted:
For a comparison, here is the same charger plugged into my old S4:
lol.. seriously? does it charge? if yes, does it really matter to you how much it goes in? why? just so you know, its about the same on my n6. maybe mine goes in a tiny bit more..
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lol.. seriously? does it charge? if yes, does it really matter to you how much it goes in? why? just so you know, its about the same on my n6. maybe mine goes in a tiny bit more..
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Yes, seriously.
Once I plug it in, I cannot touch or move the phone. If I do, the charger pops out. In the car, any bump/pothole/hard turn/whatever, will cause the charger to pop out. And it is extremely annoying.
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Yes, seriously.
Once I plug it in, I cannot touch or move the phone. If I do, the charger pops out. In the car, any bump/pothole/hard turn/whatever, will cause the charger to pop out. And it is extremely annoying.
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same with mine. when a chord is brand new, itll hold for two weeks or so, but eventually it starts popping out. i do have chords that hold better than others, but itll still happen. it used to bug me, but doesnt anymore, at all. it just seems as something wears down with time. but, it never did go into the phone all the way, but used to hold well regardless. honestly, i don't think that those two affects are related.
Oh well, guess I just have to deal with it.
Mine goes in to the same level, but is fairly secure unless I'm using a questionable USB cable.
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Yeah, see mine are not secure at all. Even when they were new, they would pop out very easily. And they are both good quality chargers, so I don't know what the problem is
So I was using my phone and was running low on battery power. My ended up dying at like 5% as usual with my droid turbo. I was with my friend in his girlfriends car and plugged it into her cheap charger she picked up at a gas station or something. My phone registered the charger and then began the battery symbol like usual although it never got to the battery percentage, it just stayed as a gray battery symbol with the lightning bolt. After a while the phone screen went black and wouldn't respond to anything and figured that the charger just made the phone go dead and that I could plug it into a Verizon charger to make it work again. When I got home I plugged it in and nothing, no response at all not even the green light at the top of the phone. I plugged it into my computer and it shows up on device manager as QHSUSB_BULK. Now to be clear my phone was never rooted or had anything done to it. The phone was completely stock. I need help frantically because I need to get some media off of the phone if at all possible, whatever the cost. Not sure if just letting it charge for a while will help or not. Thanks for the help in advance.
If you plug it into your home charger it should turn on at least and show the battery symbol when charging and it should go up if you haven't tried it already. If it doesn't, sounds like some kind of charging issue.
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If you plug it into your home charger it should turn on at least and show the battery symbol when charging and it should go up if you haven't tried it already. If it doesn't, sounds like some kind of charging issue.
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The phone doesnt respond at all to any commands. The green light doesn't even pop up as if thebphone was clear dead. Took it to Verizon they thought the battery might be fried which I guess would keep the phone from turning on.
That is entirely possible. When I buy after market chargers, I generally only buy anker stuff. I've never had a problem with their stuff. Get what you pay for. Not that you bought that but yeah.
BlueForce64 said:
That is entirely possible. When I buy after market chargers, I generally only buy anker stuff. I've never had a problem with their stuff. Get what you pay for. Not that you bought that but yeah.
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Yeah I definitely learned a lesson. Is there any way I can get the data off of it though? Would Motorola recover the data for me or is there some way? The data should all still be there considering there were no deletion processes. Of course maybe im wrong but I just hope I can get everything recovered.
It's possible if it will connect to your computer and you can read it but otherwise I'm not sure
Assuming the charging port is damaged you could try a wireless charger.
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Well like I said the computer can read it, but thats all it can do. It recognizes it as being plugged in but cant do anything else.
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Assuming the charging port is damaged you could try a wireless charger.
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Tyler2265 said:
Well like I said the computer can read it, but thats all it can do. It recognizes it as being plugged in but cant do anything else.
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If you try a Qi wireless charger, that would give it the chance to actually charge. Maybe some circuitry in the USB port is damaged and it's not receiving a charge. You actually have the phone, so you know better. But wouldn't hurt to go to a store and try putting it on a Qi charger for a few minutes as a test. When my phone is OFF and I put it on a Qi charger, it actually turns it on, boots the phone.
That is definitely a thing to try. If your computer can read it then you can easily save the files off the phone.
I'll have to give that QI a try. People st Verizon probably didn't even think of that.
How would I go about getting the data off of it though? The phone doesnt show up on computer just shows up in device manager under the code I wrote in the first post.
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I'll have to give that QI a try. People st Verizon probably didn't even think of that.
How would I go about getting the data off of it though? The phone doesnt show up on computer just shows up in device manager under the code I wrote in the first post.
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One step at a time. If it will charge normally with Qi and boot, then it once booted it might show up as device on PC.
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That is definitely a thing to try. If your computer can read it then you can easily save the files off the phone.
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I tried the QI charger and it did not work. Thr light on the Verizon pad flashed red. Thr battery has got to be fried. So im not exactly sure what to do next.
Well, you can always get a new one through insurance or through swappa. I get that it's the stuff you want to save though. Might not be able to if your computer can't see it as a SD card unfortunately.
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Well, you can always get a new one through insurance or through swappa. I get that it's the stuff you want to save though. Might not be able to if your computer can't see it as a SD card unfortunately.
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Well the way I look at it there's always other phones but not memories. So if worse comes to worse I'll just tear the phone apart and find the internal storage.
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I tried the QI charger and it did not work. Thr light on the Verizon pad flashed red. Thr battery has got to be fried. So im not exactly sure what to do next.
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Well the way I look at it there's always other phones but not memories. So if worse comes to worse I'll just tear the phone apart and find the internal storage.
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Very sorry you couldn't resuscitate your phone. Hope you can save your data.
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Very sorry you couldn't resuscitate your phone. Hope you can save your data.
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So there's no way you guys can think of to get this data off? I could use all the help I can get
Even if you tore yours apart and found the memory chip, it's soldered onto the board. I know because I've opened my turbo to do repairs and it's not hard but not easy. Maybe, just maybe, if you had the sophisticated equipment you could apply the proper voltage to be able to read the card, assuming you could find the + and - pins on it and then also the transmit pins on it and solder yourself a usb cable to direct connect to it to the computer, that might work but would be extremely complicated. I'm a professional electronics technician and I test, build, and repair boards but not phones. I do surface mount work though. Anyways, got off topic. So unless you got that going for you, I don't see it happening.
One last thought, do you have Motorola drivers installed on your PC? Could help. Don't know.
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So there's no way you guys can think of to get this data off? I could use all the help I can get
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There are youtube guides out there on how to replace the battery in this phone. It's not easy, but it's probably easier than finding the storage chip and figuring out a way to build a new physical interface to access it. New battery = resurrected phone = get your data back. Maybe.
https://youtu.be/VHFkTgjWzOo
Yeah that's also probably a lot easier than all that. The battery isn't too hard to replace. I totally over thought that.