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Android P {PIE}

When we can expext android P in our beloved Note 8❤

Probably in March or April.
I hope there will be a beta program though.

Or we can get a port of SX earlier? as galaxy 10 will be based on android P

RIPPER said:
When we can expext android P in our beloved Note 8❤
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Remember we just got Oreo so I would say not until the Note 10 is out. So over a year and that's pushing it.
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Oreo came out to the public in August of 2017 we just got it that's almost a damn year after it came out. So Samsung is almost a year behind which is ridiculous. This is why I loved my Nexus phones but Google decided to go with the stupid Pixel brand of ugly phones.

jason504 said:
Remember we just got Oreo so I would say not until the Note 10 is out. So over a year and that's pushing it.
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Oreo came out to the public in August of 2017 we just got it that's almost a damn year after it came out. So Samsung is almost a year behind which is ridiculous. This is why I loved my Nexus phones but Google decided to go with the stupid Pixel brand of ugly phones.
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We can hope for a port on SX or note 9

RIPPER said:
We can hope for a port on SX or note 9
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Can you please explain to me what a port on SX or Note 9 means? I thought Google provided free Android through the AOSP. Why can't a developer develop a Note 8 from the raw AOSP code? Is it a too much work? If a port is code from SX or Note 9, does Samsung provide the source code, or does it have to be de-compiled from machine code?
I'm a newbie, and I'm just trying to understand where all this code comes from. I love custom ROMs and know how to install them, but I'm just trying to understand the infrastructure and where all this code comes from other than AOSP.

Huele Fello said:
Can you please explain to me what a port on SX or Note 9 means? I thought Google provided free Android through the AOSP. Why can't a developer develop a Note 8 from the raw AOSP code? Is it a too much work? If a port is code from SX or Note 9, does Samsung provide the source code, or does it have to be de-compiled from machine code?
I'm a newbie, and I'm just trying to understand where all this code comes from. I love custom ROMs and know how to install them, but I'm just trying to understand the infrastructure and where all this code comes from other than AOSP.
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Sharing you a link where you can understand about the custom rom and building process. Any one can build a rom but he/she have basic knowledge about. Snapdragon chipset are very easy to crack but exynos is hardwork that why we dont much development here plus feature may get reduce in note 8 as custom rom while dilute note 8 features.
Pls read
https://www.androidauthority.com/build-custom-android-rom-720453/

Ripper, you forgot to mention to Huele Fello that AOSP also wouldn't have Samsung's Touchwiz to make the almighty S-Pen work. The Bixby button on the side would also be dead, as well as the Iris scanner,

I guess in next 3 weeks max .

Mariusz_Trynkiewicz said:
I guess in next 3 weeks max .
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Definitely not in the next 3 weeks. I'm guessing maybe closer to April/May next year, but probably even later than that.

Max_Terrible said:
Definitely not in the next 3 weeks. I'm guessing maybe closer to April/May next year, but probably even later than that.
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I am talking about another stuff . Treble was ported to note 8 ( its maybe not public relase but its real ) in sunday . All roms boot , and if i am not wrong , all roms are bugless? Dev is still working on it but soo it should be bugless soon if I am wrong. Try to mess with telegram some more . U'll find it

Mariusz_Trynkiewicz said:
I am talking about another stuff . Treble was ported to note 8 ( its maybe not public relase but its real ) in sunday . All roms boot , and if i am not wrong , all roms are bugless? Dev is still working on it but soo it should be bugless soon if I am wrong. Try to mess with telegram some more . U'll find it
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And what is Treble going to help you in receiving the Pie update for the Note 8? Samsung doesn't officially support it on the Note 8, thus it's pointless. It might only help with custom ROMS with updates a little bit.

jason504 said:
Remember we just got Oreo so I would say not until the Note 10 is out. So over a year and that's pushing it.
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Oreo came out to the public in August of 2017 we just got it that's almost a damn year after it came out. So Samsung is almost a year behind which is ridiculous. This is why I loved my Nexus phones but Google decided to go with the stupid Pixel brand of ugly phones.
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Max_Terrible said:
Definitely not in the next 3 weeks. I'm guessing maybe closer to April/May next year, but probably even later than that.
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Oreo was released to the Note 8 in March of 2018. Not sure why Jason504 thinks we just got it in August??
It would also stand to reason that Android Pie will be released in a similar time table as Oreo. Possibly sooner since Samsung is planning the rollout in January 2019.

I don't know exactly when I got Oreo but it definitely wasn't in March. It was way after that it was May or June when I got the update for my phone. One of the last companies to push the update. Samsung sells more phones than any company and are almost dead last at pushing out updates?

News: Android 9.0

Samsung might be testing Pie on some of its devices!
https://bgr.com/2018/08/29/galaxy-s10-release-date-soon-android-updates-faster-leak-says/

This would make the Note9 even more amazing if it got Android 9 this year...

I have it on my Pixel, it's absolutely amazing!

Not holding my breath...

I won't hold my breath. Samsung might muck it up bad.

Won't be early...just waiting as usual

I have it on my Pixel 2XL & while it's nice to have it & be as up to date as possible, it really is nothing special.
Let Samsung get it right & it'll come when it comes. Note 9 on Oreo is amazing as it is & it all works.

Well, I'm not hoping anything to be honest... Hahaha
Oreo one is already THAT good for me, and for my usage, is already pretty good..
The only thing I wanted is surprise for a Linux Dex getting implemented.. But, since Android is more and more complex, fingers crossed...

samsung are crafty really as they only give two version updates so our note 9 will drop off on android R instead of S which sucks seeing as android pie was out before the note 9 came out.

peekie said:
samsung are crafty really as they only give two version updates so our note 9 will drop off on android R instead of S which sucks seeing as android pie was out before the note 9 came out.
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I feel like the title of this is as click baity as bgr itself.

peekie said:
samsung are crafty really as they only give two version updates so our note 9 will drop off on android R instead of S which sucks seeing as android pie was out before the note 9 came out.
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This has been the cycle for every single Note. It's not new. Don't they support two YEARS of updates? Not two updates?

last i heard is P will be out on the Note 9 before the end of the year, this is a very big test for project treble and im sure google is putting a little pressure on samsung and other oems to get this os update out in a timely manner.

clone1008 said:
I have it on my Pixel, it's absolutely amazing!
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Yeah but you still have stock android. Which lacks too many features i've come to enjoy on Samsung Experience. A lot of the features on P, Samsung had for years. I tried stock android, had me running back to Samsung. No thank you.

It would be great if N9 can dual boot: Samsung Experience + AOSP/PE Rom

eaoosa said:
Yeah but you still have stock android. Which lacks too many features i've come to enjoy on Samsung Experience. A lot of the features on P, Samsung had for years. I tried stock android, had me running back to Samsung. No thank you.
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Bruh this is the second time you've tried to give me a Samsung Fanboi lesson. I have my likes you have yours. Chill.... I like a more minimalistic experience without all the bloat that's all.

clone1008 said:
Bruh this is the second time you've tried to give me a Samsung Fanboi lesson. I have my likes you have yours. Chill.... I like a more minimalistic experience without all the bloat that's all.
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Yeah if you want a gimped os, go ahead and use stock no one's stopping you. Go back to your forum pixel fanboi.

Lol this slap fighting is hilarious.
The same people that will pan apple and it's walled garden will go all tribal on flavors of Android.
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eaoosa said:
Yeah if you want a gimped os, go ahead and use stock no one's stopping you. Go back to your forum pixel fanboi.
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You may not realize this but a Samsung build of Android is a lot more gimped in the grand scheme of things.
Let's calm down all the fanboy logic please.

pcriz said:
Lol this slap fighting is hilarious.
The same people that will pan apple and it's walled garden will go all tribal on flavors of Android.
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You may not realize this but a Samsung build of Android is a lot more gimped in the grand scheme of things.
Let's calm down all the fanboy logic please.
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Amen

I think huawei cheat the mobile phone user????

https://cn.club.vmall.com/thread-18913931-1-1.html
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????????????????????????

Did you have a question or an issue? Or just wanting to post an article?

BIGWORM said:
Did you have a question or an issue? Or just wanting to post an article?
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chines user clam to update android 9 ....................
and huawei update for Asian/world user only android 7 and emui 5.0.3 ????????????
asian/world user can not pay phone price??????????

P9 has no hardware to match, and it can't be adapted. It is just a matter of whether Huawei officially wants to get funds to let engineers do the adaptation. Is it willing to give another upgrade to the Kirin 955, which has undergone two upgrades of two major Android versions in the past two years? (Android has signed an agreement with the mobile phone manufacturer to experience at least two major version upgrades). In recent days, I have brushed Android 8.1 for Xiaomi 2s 6 years ago. The power consumption is no different from the original. The fluency is not a level. The original 300M package is really smooth and has a normal function. Thank you.

M.KK said:
chines user clam to update android 9 ....................
and huawei update for Asian/world user only android 7 and emui 5.0.3 ????????????
asian/world user can not pay phone price??????????
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Think you have enough question marks in there?

Planning on purchasing a new Note 9, some questions...

Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.

No
No
Very good
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Maky-313 said:
Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.
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it all depends on what you install on it.
but for the last question stock is pretty good. especially if device has the latest firmware(software update)

Maky-313 said:
Hello everyone!
I am planning on purchasing a Note 9 which has just come up on discount locally. I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions I have : ):
- Does the battery life of the Note 9 diminish greatly within a few months of usage?
- Does the stock Samsung UI start to lag a lot within a few months of usage?
- Stock camera app good enough or will need to install Google Cam app? If so, How good is google camera app on the Note 9?
Thank you for your time.
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Best way to charge is with a wireless charge pad overnight. That's a slow charge and very easy on the battery. By the end of my 12hr days of moderate talking/texting, the phone is at 80%, and then I use it all night (instead of tv) and it's at 50% when I go to bed. That's with auto brightness, the dark UI (night mode) and no added theme. Dark mode all the apps. It looks gorgeous. I've had it for about four months, and it's an amazing phone. No lag. VERY nice OS (Android 9 + OneUI). Camera app is excellent. Google Cam app would not be better. When you buy a Note9 new, do ALL the updates (Android 8 to 9 and all security patches) right away before installing any apps, and you will have a trouble-free system. Android 9 in most regions does not have call recording. A US unbranded Note9 is bloat-free and great for T-Mobile, because you still get wifi-calling and VoLTE, but for the other carriers, you lose those if you don't get their branded version. If you want to root your phone, you must buy an Exynos or dual-sim Snapdragon version. All US Note9 versions are bootloader-locked and will not root. Ain't happening. This is the first Android setup I've had where it's so good I don't need root (7 of my Androids are rooted and non-stock ROMmed). Note9 is better than Note10. The last great Samsung phone.

If you're thinking about Sprint as a carrier learn Spanish. No way Jose. The device cant do voice and data unless you downgrade to Oreo and even then its wishy washy.

docdg said:
If you're thinking about Sprint as a carrier learn Spanish. No way Jose. The device cant do voice and data unless you downgrade to Oreo and even then its wishy washy.
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CDMA has always been terrible.

Nah just this phone

ok thanks guys
It's really betweent his and the S9 for now.

No lag at all running on firmware that orginally shipped with the Note 9 which is Android 8.1.

dave678 said:
No lag at all running on firmware that orginally shipped with the Note 9 which is Android 8.1.
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Why you're still on such an old firmware???
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bat0nas said:
Why you're still on such an old firmware???
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Easy. Becasue I hate Pie.

I want to buy a 512GB Note9 International for Christmas or so, nice to see everyone is happy with the phone & the updates

dave678 said:
Easy. Becasue I hate Pie.
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Have you tried it?
I really don't understand the haters.
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dave678 said:
Easy. Because I hate Pie.
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Don't go past Oreo Dave. There is more wrong past that than is immediately apparent. Most of the complaints at the play store about apps that used to work and don't anymore is based on not only Pie, but also play store updates that put you in iPhone prison. The apps at the Play Store had to be rewritten to uselessness to remain listed, which made apkpure.com my new friend to download previous versions of apps, and turn off Google Policy Updates at both the play store and my phone. Because I have the 960U, I had to flash to the US UNLOCKED U1 firmware and then disable updates in the configs by following these instructions. The forcing updates by US carriers and play store to strip functionality that protects you appears to be a US deep state driven thing because many nations won't put up with those restrictions and appears to be a U-model-only thing.

There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I think most app issues are from updating from 8 to 9 after apps were installed. Those with upgrade issues have done a factory reset then reinstalled apps and watched all those issues go away. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you must have call recording, better disable updates and stay on old software otherwise update without worry, and enjoy continued security updates.

Had zero issues after update.
When I hear people complaining about such things I tend to believe that the problem is not with pie+one_ui but with the people.
Yes there are exceptions.
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bat0nas said:
Have you tried it?
I really don't understand the haters.
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I have tried it multipe times whenever I go to Costco. By playing around with an S10 and Note 10 Plus and I still hate it.
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gruuvin said:
There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I think most app issues are from updating from 8 to 9 after apps were installed. Those with upgrade issues have done a factory reset then reinstalled apps and watched all those issues go away. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you must have call recording, better disable updates and stay on old software otherwise update without worry, and enjoy continued security updates.
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I just hate the look and no AM or PM.

gruuvin said:
There's a lot of opinions and hyperbole about Pie and OneUI on Note9. I've been running it since day one on Note9, and I have zero app issues. I like it much more than Android 8 + TouchWiz. Most of the justified dislike is around call recording. If you don't need that, then you can update without worry.
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I would agree with that. Actually, any app other than a dialer that leverages your contacts and call history is hamstrung or no longer works. On Android 10, they purposely killed call recording altogether. Since most calls go VoLTE, the calling parties are the only ones deprived of a record of their calls. Everyone else in the chain keeps a copy.
Android established its market by being the open choice, and actually the only choice for non-Apple after Steve Balmer pulled the plug on the Windows Mobile/Pocket PC. Even rooting was a normal option without permanently disabling the capabilities of your device. The progression has been to force IOS limitations upon Android, with more an more access to your private information by phone makers and Google. As with LTE-A, It's time for a non-proprietary mobile operating system that is beholden to its users instead of companies and governments. Vendors can plug their Touchwiz or whatever into that.
As for CDMA, Qualcomm used it as a product name because it incorporates cdma as a technology. The only reason GSM didn't go with it is CDMA as a product name and technology is because it was owned by Qualcomm. GSM service was poor, expensive, and impractical in many areas until later when GSM went to cdma. The EU legislated against CDMA, and this affected their orbiting countries. Developed countries went with CDMA, including the US, Japan, South Korea, Russia, etc., and even countries in the EU bolted GSM for CDMA. The defining moment came at 4G time when Sprint gained control of Clearwire, the owner of the new 4G, Wi-MAX. This caused Verizon to bolt Wi-MAX. Their clout plus the emerging Cingular/ATT network caused Sprint to realize they couldn't pull this off and they also bolted. That enabled LTE to gain critical mass and LTE-A to become the IP of cellular networks. With the problem becoming usable cellular bandwidth, and with a usable de facto worldwide standard for wireless communication, the FCC and similar organizations could now force out the 3G and earlier technologies that were tying up bandwidth. Because CDMA is locked to the wireless network vendor and cannot be shared, it is logical for it to be the first on the chopping block. There are no longer any Wi-MAX phones, but Clearwire, who was and is many years ahead, has gone on to provide the wireless matrix for many of the largest cities around the world with user technologies at their perimeter, of which 5G is one. GSM's claim to fame has never been one of technical superiority, it has been openness and interoperability. However, the US did something similar when it developed the DARPANET/INTERNET by not allowing proprietary protocols and building out IP.

When I updated my S7 to Oreo, I liked the improvements over Nougat, but there were still a lot of things with the OS that needed tweaking, with frameworks like Exposed or Substratum. But with third-party options like that, the problem is diverging development, late bug-fixes, and generally dealing with a certain amount of brokenness. I think Android+Samsung OS has evolved well, to the point where PieOneUI is the first system that I don't mind not rooting or need to heavily tweak. Dark mode is a big part of that. I HATE WHITE APPS. I think Android 10 with OneUI is going to be quite good.
All that said, I agree with IT, and I don't like the GOOG having this much control. I do wish we had a much more open and community driven OS.
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dave678 said:
I just hate the look and no AM or PM.
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AM or PM? ruserious?
Now that you pointed it out, I might have to roll back to Oreo! Oh wait, I can look out the window.
To me, this OS feels like less is more. It's clean, it's laid out sensibly. (unbranded no carrier bloat + tmobile + Nova Prime also helps). There is a Note9 OneUI port for the S7, which has made my S7 almost perfect now.

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When I updated my S7 to Oreo, I liked the improvements over Nougat, but there were still a lot of things with the OS that needed tweaking, with frameworks like Exposed or Substratum. But with third-party options like that, the problem is diverging development, late bug-fixes, and generally dealing with a certain amount of brokenness. I think Android+Samsung OS has evolved well, to the point where PieOneUI is the first system that I don't mind not rooting or need to heavily tweak. Dark mode is a big part of that. I HATE WHITE APPS. I think Android 10 with OneUI is going to be quite good.
All that said, I agree with IT, and I don't like the GOOG having this much control. I do wish we had a much more open and community driven OS.
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AM or PM? ruserious?
Now that you pointed it out, I might have to roll back to Oreo! Oh wait, I can look out the window.
To me, this OS feels like less is more. It's clean, it's laid out sensibly. (unbranded no carrier bloat + tmobile + Nova Prime also helps). There is a Note9 OneUI port for the S7, which has made my S7 almost perfect now.
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Ahh the old look out the window comment. You live in Alaska you're ****ed so you need AM and PM. Also it's on phones for years until the notch trend rolled in and they axed it. If it's useless then why did so many people beg Samsung to bring it back during the Pie beta test?

Android 10 Final Update?

Hi! I'm seriously considering buying a refurbished Note 9 but noticed that Android 10 would be its second OS update after just 1 year and 4 months. Samsung's update policy is 2 OS updates with at least 3 years of security updates, does this mean Note 9 won't be updated to Android 11? This would be pretty bad if true. Just looking for someone to clear this up. Thanks.

pedodroid said:
Hi! I'm seriously considering buying a refurbished Note 9 but noticed that Android 10 would be its second OS update after just 1 year and 4 months. Samsung's update policy is 2 OS updates with at least 3 years of security updates, does this mean Note 9 won't be updated to Android 11? This would be pretty bad if true. Just looking for someone to clear this up. Thanks.
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Normaly in the past for all other models, things went as you said... 2, max 3 OS updates so maybe note 9 might have Android 11.

joedellosso69 said:
Normaly in the past for all other models, things went as you said... 2, max 3 OS updates so maybe note 9 might have Android 11.
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Android 11 would be its 4th OS.

pedodroid said:
Hi! I'm seriously considering buying a refurbished Note 9 but noticed that Android 10 would be its second OS update after just 1 year and 4 months. Samsung's update policy is 2 OS updates with at least 3 years of security updates, does this mean Note 9 won't be updated to Android 11? This would be pretty bad if true. Just looking for someone to clear this up. Thanks.
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not sure what youre talking about. the note 9 has had constant updates all year on both the U and the F versions. To double check historical updates, you can look on sammobile.com/firmwares to see the last few releases. sammobile is pretty decent about keeping historical device links active.
Here is the link to the F version and there is a selector for the different variants as well right above the download links
https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-note9/firmware/#SM-N960F

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Android 11 would be its 4th OS.
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Well... That's right, so.. Maybe will not have it.

Youdoofus said:
not sure what youre talking about. the note 9 has had constant updates all year on both the U and the F versions. To double check historical updates, you can look on sammobile.com/firmwares to see the last few releases. sammobile is pretty decent about keeping historical device links active.
Here is the link to the F version and there is a selector for the different variants as well right above the download links
https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-note9/firmware/#SM-N960F
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I mentioned OS updates a.k.a Android version updates not security updates. Note 9 launched with Android 8.1, received Android 9 last year and Android 10 this year. That's 2 version updates already which is usually Samsung's limit (3 years of security updates not not withstanding). Note 9 based on past flagships shouldn't receive Android 11.

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I mentioned OS updates a.k.a Android version updates not security updates. Note 9 launched with Android 8.1, received Android 9 last year and Android 10 this year. That's 2 version updates already which is usually Samsung limit (3 years of security updates not not withstanding). Note 9 based on past flagships shouldn't receive Android 11.
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oh, you mean the separate versions of Android. You said updates, and they are starkly different things. Also, even within the Android "version" are releases which are also "Android version updates". Not trying to split hairs, rather clarify and help avoid people answering the question you asked vs the one you meant to ask.
So, the answer to that is very unlikely. Android releases are just a hair faster than the phone hardware releases and ive never seen more than 2 years of support on any phone, much less a Samsung one. Check my sig for currently owned Samsung phones.

Well you could see the history repeating it self, in this case we have note 8 wgich didn't get android 10, so i gues this will be the same with note9 when android 11 comes.