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HORRIBLE experience setting up my Nexus 5 out of the box

I'm pretty experienced with setting up Android devices, mainly because I get a new one every month or so (it's a real problem). I had the Nexus 4 and recall allowing it to restore from a backup. When I did that on the Nexus 5, it started downloading random apps from other devices that I don't even use anymore. I don't know what backup it was pulling from, but it was messy.
The worst part was, it kind of froze in the middle and refused to keep downloading apps. I cleared the cache on the Play Store app and started again. It downloaded a few apps, then quit again. I tried clearing data on Google Play, downloads, and Framework and nothing would work. When I tried to download apps manually, it would just give me an error and say it couldn't download. It wouldn't even update my existing apps.
Finally, at the recommendation of someone in Google groups, I logged out of Hangouts, then tried to log back in. It wouldn't let me log back in, even after several restarts.
Ultimately, after trying pretty much everything, I had to do a factory wipe and start over from scratch. I went through something similar (though not as bad) restoring from a backup a few months back. The moral of the story is, I will probably never restore from backup again.
After about an hour of setting up my accounts and downloading my apps manually, it's finally up and running. What a ride.

Cool story, bro.
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I'll be restoring from my TB backup.

danjbry said:
Cool story, bro.
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Thanks for your valuable input, bro. Consider yourself reported.
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marinierb said:
I'll be restoring from my TB backup.
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Yeah, I was rooted, too. I don't understand Google's backup system. It doesn't work anywhere near as well as iCloud. They really need to work on that.
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greyhulk said:
allowing it to restore from a backup. When I did that on the Nexus 5, it started downloading random apps from other devices that I don't even use anymore. I don't know what backup it was puling from, but it was messy.
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it started downloading apps i have backed up on my nexus 7, which i agree is quite annoying
while i know it's popular to complain about complainers, OP has a valid point imo. i agree that they need to get it cleaned up, or at least allow you to choice individual devices.
greyhulk said:
I don't understand Google's backup system. It doesn't work anywhere near as well as iCloud. They really need to work on that.
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+1

greyhulk said:
I'm pretty experienced with setting up Android devices, mainly because I get a new one every month or so (it's a real problem). I had the Nexus 4 and recall allowing it to restore from a backup. When I did that on the Nexus 5, it started downloading random apps from other devices that I don't even use anymore. I don't know what backup it was puling from, but it was messy.
The worst part was, it kind of froze in the middle and refused to keep downloading apps. I cleared the cache on the Play Store app and started again. It downloaded a few apps, then quit again. I tried clearing data on Google Play, downloads, and Framework and nothing would work. When I tried to download apps manually, it would just give me an error and say it couldn't download. It wouldn't even update my existing apps.
Finally, at the recommendation of someone in Google groups, I logged out of Hangouts, then tried to log back in. It wouldn't let me log back in, even after several restarts.
Ultimately, after trying pretty much everything, I had to do a factory wipe and start over from scratch. I went through something similar (though not as bad) restoring from a backup a few months back. The moral of the story is, I will probably never restore from backup again.
After about an hour of setting up my accounts and downloading my apps manually, it's finally up and running. What a ride.
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Pay a few dollars and get Titanium Backup Pro or Helium Premium. Google's backup and restore is horrendous; no one with any sense actually uses it. The paid versions of TiBu and Helium are well worth it. TiBu was my go-to for a long time, but I use Helium now. It has a much more user-friendly interface, and it doesn't require root.
greyhulk said:
Thanks for your valuable input, bro. Consider yourself reported.
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Haha you are on the Nexus 5 forum posting about something that has pretty much nothing to do with the Nexus 5 and is 100% user error. What kind of responses do you expect, especially considering the 500 worthless threads people have posted today complaining about irrelevant things. You totally brought this on yourself, and reporting someone for pointing that out is a waste of your time. Look around this forum; the mods let anything fly here.

greyhulk said:
Yeah, I was rooted, too. I don't understand Google's backup system. It doesn't work anywhere near as well as iCloud. They really need to work on that.
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I'm pretty sure that if you uninstall apps outside of the playstore, then upon a backup restore it will restore that app again. If you uninstall from the store, it won't restore it again. This is just my guess on things I think i've noticed.. I never actually tried to prove my theory right.
Basically there's no way for us to force it to sync a current setup. If you start flashing nandroids and roms will mess it up as well.

greyhulk said:
Yeah, I was rooted, too. I don't understand Google's backup system. It doesn't work anywhere near as well as iCloud. They really need to work on that.
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In the Play Store it keeps track of every app you download, if you no longer want them backed up you have to delete them from "my apps."
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Paddington said:
Pay a few dollars and get Titanium Backup Pro or Helium Premium. Google's backup and restore is horrendous; no one with any sense actually uses it. The paid versions of TiBu and Helium are well worth it. TiBu was my go-to for a long time, but I use Helium now. It has a much more user-friendly interface, and it doesn't require root.
Haha you are on the Nexus 5 forum posting about something that has pretty much nothing to do with the Nexus 5 and is 100% user error. What kind of responses do you expect, especially considering the 500 worthless threads people have posted today complaining about irrelevant things. You totally brought this on yourself, and reporting someone for pointing that out is a waste of your time. Look around this forum; the mods let anything fly here.
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How, pray tell, was a Google backup failing to restore "user error"?
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I have no science behind this statement but I've always thought that restoring TB backups to different devices was extremely risky.
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Paddington said:
Haha you are on the Nexus 5 forum posting about something that has pretty much nothing to do with the Nexus 5 and is 100% user error. What kind of responses do you expect, especially considering the 500 worthless threads people have posted today complaining about irrelevant things. You totally brought this on yourself, and reporting someone for pointing that out is a waste of your time. Look around this forum; the mods let anything fly here.
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are you kidding me? nexus 5 may not have much to do with it, but this is a very legitimate bug in the current backup/restore system google has in place. i'm sure in time further revisions with work things out, but right now it sucks.
fwiw, i have everything backed up in titanium, but i'm not rooted and i don't wanna mess around with that right now. having the ability to easily move from android to android is something that has been sorely missing for some time for the average user.
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mjs2011 said:
I have no science behind this statement but I've always thought that restoring TB backups to different devices was extremely risky.
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it can be, you're often not supposed to restore app data but...

greyhulk said:
How, pray tell, was a Google backup failing to restore "user error"?
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Because Google backup doesn't work. You said yourself you've had problems with it before. For someone "experienced in setting up Android phones," I am surprised you haven't been using TiBu/Helium all along. Trust me, it's well worth spending the few dollars if you switch phones or ROMs more than once a year. Relying on Google backup to restore anything more than your contacts is user error.

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Because Google backup doesn't work. You said yourself you've had problems with it before. For someone "experienced in setting up Android phones," I am surprised you haven't been using TiBu/Helium all along. Trust me, it's well worth spending the few dollars if you switch phones or ROMs more than once a year. Relying on Google backup to restore anything more than your contacts is user error.
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system error brah

Paddington said:
Haha you are on the Nexus 5 forum posting about something that has pretty much nothing to do with the Nexus 5 and is 100% user error. What kind of responses do you expect, especially considering the 500 worthless threads people have posted today complaining about irrelevant things. You totally brought this on yourself, and reporting someone for pointing that out is a waste of your time. Look around this forum; the mods let anything fly here.
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It is not that we let anything fly here, it is just that with around 90 device forums to monitor we are spread around.
Feel free to use the report button when you see something that should not "FLY"
the information has been given,
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Google "rumored" full backup

How do you guys think about the rumored cloud backup of Google? I think it would be great to have such a function and! I just don't want to use apps like titanium etc. I just want my phone to recover settings, apps, mail accounts and more when doing a restore after flashing.
Back to the topic. Is there any more news on this subject?
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lowtje said:
How do you guys think about the rumored cloud backup of Google? I think it would be great to have such a function and! I just don't want to use apps like titanium etc. I just want my phone to recover settings, apps, mail accounts and more when doing a restore after flashing.
Back to the topic. Is there any more news on this subject?
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In all honesty I am not a big fan of titanium backup at all.

I would actually love this, it would be good if it wasn't Nexus 5 specific but android specific so I could move to any other phone when its out and not reconfigure it.

Yeah there was some info at first, but now its all silentmode
http://m.digitaltrends.com/mobile/nexus-5-leaks-time-hints-cloud-backup-android-4-4-kitkat/
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Helium is a great alternative to Titanium, and you don't need root. Looks much nicer as well, very Google-esque

I for one used to HATE titanium, and I found the GUI very confusing and hard to understand. But. Once I got used to it I found it to be one of the most useful apps i've purchased. Just my thoughts
On the google backup thing, I think it would be cool. But i'd have to see how it was implemented.

titanium bu is for noobs. I would NEVER use it. I'd rather lose all my data,
Backing up / restoring user data is never a good idea in IMO. I'm not saying it doesn't work, but, show me the thread with the guy/gal that has issues from not restoring from a other brand/model phone....... its just not a good idea. Even with the same model phone, its just poor practice.

apristel said:
titanium bu is for noobs. I would NEVER use it. I'd rather lose all my data,
Backing up / restoring user data is never a good idea in IMO. I'm not saying it doesn't work, but, show me the thread with the guy/gal that has issues from not restoring from a other brand/model phone....... its just not a good idea. Even with the same model phone, its just poor practice.
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Why? I've been doing it for years across a dozen different phones and I've never had an issue. As long as you're not restoring system data, any problems are usually due to user error.
I get that you personally don't like TB, but you can't just make a broad generalization based on your own opinion. There's already too much of that going on in the N5 forums.

Same here. Been using TB since the Captivate days and still do. Never had an issue restoring user apps and data.
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apristel said:
titanium bu is for noobs. I would NEVER use it. I'd rather lose all my data,
Backing up / restoring user data is never a good idea in IMO. I'm not saying it doesn't work, but, show me the thread with the guy/gal that has issues from not restoring from a other brand/model phone....... its just not a good idea. Even with the same model phone, its just poor practice.
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just because YOU don't know how to use it, you shouldn't call them as 'noobs.'
been using titanium for years. it works fine. user friendly.

maxpower7 said:
Why? I've been doing it for years across a dozen different phones and I've never had an issue. As long as you're not restoring system data, any problems are usually due to user error.
I get that you personally don't like TB, but you can't just make a broad generalization based on your own opinion. There's already too much of that going on in the N5 forums.
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Actually. I did just make a broad generalization based on my own opinion. Something i am granted to do. You won't see the threads with people complaining that their device is working fine after doing the b/u manually. These apps that fleece users for doing the dumbest **** piss me off.
1 Figure out WHY.HOW it can do the backup.
2.DO it yourself.

apristel said:
Actually. I did just make a broad generalization based on my own opinion. Something i am granted to do. You won't see the threads with people complaining that their device is working fine after doing the b/u manually. These apps that fleece users for doing the dumbest **** piss me off.
1 Figure out WHY.HOW it can do the backup.
2.DO it yourself.
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I've gotten more utility out of TB than any other app I've ever paid for. My experience with TB has been the exact opposite of whatever your definition of "fleecing" is. But whatever, bro. If you need to be unpleasant, knock yourself out.

I'd really like the ability for a back up app to remember my Google music "pins". Since I tend to pin a ton, I don't have the space to backup the music app itself.
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esskayy said:
Helium is a great alternative to Titanium, and you don't need root. Looks much nicer as well, very Google-esque
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Helium is terrible, it looks nice but it has tons of problems(read the reviews). It has trouble restoring many apps data especially if you use the cloud storage option.

apristel said:
Actually. I did just make a broad generalization based on my own opinion. Something i am granted to do. You won't see the threads with people complaining that their device is working fine after doing the b/u manually. These apps that fleece users for doing the dumbest **** piss me off.
1 Figure out WHY.HOW it can do the backup.
2.DO it yourself.
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You next to chill dude. I agree that tibu has its limitations and is over sold for what it claims it can do. But it has its place. Others opinions are just as valid as yours.

aohus said:
just because YOU don't know how to use it, you shouldn't call them as 'noobs.'
been using titanium for years. it works fine. user friendly.
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I don't recall saying i never used it. weird....my computer must be posting for me.
jd1639 said:
You next to chill dude. I agree that tibu has its limitations and is over sold for what it claims it can do. But it has its place. Others opinions are just as valid as yours.
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I'll agree with your point. Very valid. While it does work most of the time, it seriously cannot be trusted to restore between devices/versions of android.. These are my opinions, however, it has sold/worked for many.
thanks. ( i did actually thank you buy limited to 8 per day.)

apristel said:
I don't recall saying i never used it. weird....my computer must be posting for me.
I'll agree with your point. Very valid. While it does work most of the time, it seriously cannot be trusted to restore between devices/versions of android.. These are my opinions, however, it has sold/worked for many.
thanks. ( i did actually thank you buy limited to 8 per day.)
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I just used TB and Box storage to migrate from my N4 to my N5. No problems. TB has supported syncing backups to / from cloud storage for some time now.

rg1003 said:
I just used TB and Box storage to migrate from my N4 to my N5. No problems. TB has supported syncing backups to / from cloud storage for some time now.
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i never said it didn't do cloud backup... local/cloud backup has nothing to do with it.....what would the difference be?
I guess i am coming off wrong... You can't expect your phone to function normally doing something it isn't intended to do.
My honda civic is running wrong. I've been beating the ish out of it all week. whats wrong? damn honda.

apristel said:
I guess i am coming off wrong...
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Maybe just cluttered. I think your trying to say restoring app DATA along with the app is a bad idea. I agree with you if you are referring to system apps. Migration from ROM to ROM will cause issues. Phone A to phone B would be an epic failure. However I see very few problems when restoring user apps and data. I personally stopped using TB and now use Android Tuner. It has about everything you could ask for in a root package app.

theesotericone said:
Maybe just cluttered. I think your trying to say restoring app DATA along with the app is a bad idea. I agree with you if you are referring to system apps. Migration from ROM to ROM will cause issues. Phone A to phone B would be an epic failure. However I see very few problems when restoring user apps and data. I personally stopped using TB and now use Android Tuner. It has about everything you could ask for in a root package app.
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fair statement. I still don't believe in backing up any data (besides full nandroid). 9/10 times you won't have issues starting freshhhhh.

4.4.2 Vs 4.2.2 is it worth the switch?

I've seen posts of several loving 4.4 and others going back to 4.2. Is it worth it? Battery life? Are there known bugs and issues?

Imo, its still very much subjective. As much as I've frequented here throughout the years,I would probably still be considered a noob. With that being said, here are my thoughts
Initially I was regretting the update. My battery life being terrible was my biggest gripe. I decided to root it only three days of having the stock 4.4 rom. Once I did that, my battery life levels returned to 4.2 levels. I'm getting about 15 hours off a single charge which is huge for me. Not sure if rooting actually made the difference but that's the only thing I changed after I initially made the switch.
Plus I love the new camera app which isn't offered for 4.2. I just wish Google incorporated a long press to kill apps feature. Seems like the only way you can get that is through a custom rom
Also, my screen rotation seems to be broken. It works on certain apps and not on others. It will work if I click on a video within flipboard, but not in my picture gallery. I can deal with it for a while but not too much longer

Reel E. Weird said:
Imo, its still very much subjective. As much as I've frequented here throughout the years,I would probably still be considered a noob. With that being said, here are my thoughts
Initially I was regretting the update. My battery life being terrible was my biggest gripe. I decided to root it only three days of having the stock 4.4 rom. Once I did that, my battery life levels returned to 4.2 levels. I'm getting about 15 hours off a single charge which is huge for me. Not sure if rooting actually made the difference but that's the only thing I changed after I initially made the switch.
Plus I love the new camera app which isn't offered for 4.2. I just wish Google incorporated a long press to kill apps feature. Seems like the only way you can get that is through a custom rom
Also, my screen rotation seems to be broken. It works on certain apps and not on others. It will work if I click on a video within flipboard, but not in my picture gallery. I can deal with it for a while but not too much longer
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You may want to look into xposed framework and either wanam or gravitybox. It will give you your long press back to kill along with a while host of other features. I could never live on a stock ROM without one of those.
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Duckman5 said:
You may want to look into xposed framework and either wanam or gravitybox. It will give you your long press back to kill along with a while host of other features. I could never live on a stock ROM without one of those.
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Dude, you are a life saver! I was able to put it on my phone with absolutely no problems. Long press to kill is back!
You wouldn't by chance happen to know how to fix the screen rotation problem would you?

Reel E. Weird said:
Dude, you are a life saver! I was able to put it on my phone with absolutely no problems. Long press to kill is back!
You wouldn't by chance happen to know how to fix the screen rotation problem would you?
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Honestly, no. That's really weird that it's hit or miss like that. There's a reason they pulled that update, though. I'm wondering if there's not different hardware revisions or something and 4.4.2 just works better with some than others. Only suggestion I could make is make a nandroid, do a factory reset, and see if that fixes it. If not, just restore your backup.
Did you make any other modifications or delete any system apps after rooting?
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Duckman5 said:
Honestly, no. That's really weird that it's hit or miss like that. There's a reason they pulled that update, though. I'm wondering if there's not different hardware revisions or something and 4.4.2 just works better with some than others. Only suggestion I could make is make a nandroid, do a factory reset, and see if that fixes it. If not, just restore your backup.
Did you make any other modifications or delete any system apps after rooting?
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I actually saw something that suggested it was related to the removal of the Samsung hub app. I could probably do a reflash but I'm Judy now getting all my settings finalized. Idk man

Reel E. Weird said:
I actually saw something that suggested it was related to the removal of the Samsung hub app. I could probably do a reflash but I'm Judy now getting all my settings finalized. Idk man
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No idea how or why that might make a difference, but I made a backup of mine with Titanium Backup and I've attached an archive with the files in it. You can use that to reinstall it. I just froze all the stupid system apps on my phone. I figured it was safer that way. Anyway, let me know if that works. Hope it does.

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can anyone upload the camera app+need apps for camera from 4.4.2 ?

Duckman5 said:
No idea how or why that might make a difference, but I made a backup of mine with Titanium Backup and I've attached an archive with the files in it. You can use that to reinstall it. I just froze all the stupid system apps on my phone. I figured it was safer that way. Anyway, let me know if that works. Hope it does.
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Damn, thanks dude
My only "issue" is that I was trying to free up some internal memory. Freezing apps doesnt get rid of them right? It just suspends them from showing up in your app tray correct?
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d31v1d said:
can anyone upload the camera app+need apps for camera from 4.4.2 ?
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Why not just d/l the new google camera app from the play store? Its better (at least it is to me) than the stock camera.

Reel E. Weird said:
Damn, thanks dude
My only "issue" is that I was trying to free up some internal memory. Freezing apps doesnt get rid of them right? It just suspends them from showing up in your app tray correct?
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Why not just d/l the new google camera app from the play store? Its better (at least it is to me) than the stock camera.
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System apps live on a different partition from your regular apps and so do their .dex files (for odexed roms, which stock usually is). So no, unless you need to push some apps (supersu? ) to the /system/ partition, there is no need to free up space. Just uninstall updates and freeze.
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[Q] what is the best free backup programme to use?

Hi guys, i wanna perform a downgrade back to jellybean because kit kat really gets on my nerves for multiple reasons..
The reason i have not done this yet is purely because i dont want to lose anything i have on my phone, basically I'm looking for a backup programme which backs up absolutely everything i have on my internal storage, including 3rd party apps I've installed and set up, downloaded videos which are stored within apps and everything else pretty much THEN once I have performed the downgrade, to be able to just restore the backup and have my phone identical to how it is now only with jellybean instead of kitkat. Is this possible? Cheers in advance.

Titanium Backup is Good but sometimes gives errors.. I personally use Super Backup Pro it never fails very good for App and other items backup and restore
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For apps titanium for pics, mega, 50GB for free, never runs out like dropbox will.
If you're going to get titanium, pay for the pro version, you'll thank me later when you're restoring your apps.

Ok cheers guys, i will look into them all.

originaltanksta said:
Ok cheers guys, i will look into them all.
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NP m8.
PS: Spotted you without a thanks, put one on there for ya

dladz said:
If you're going to get titanium, pay for the pro version, you'll thank me later when you're restoring your apps.
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This! Especially when switching ROMs often, you will find the added features from the pro version helpful.
I was greatful for being able to restore the device ID so apps would just work like before.

elFlexor said:
This! Especially when switching ROMs often, you will find the added features from the pro version helpful.
I was greatful for being able to restore the device ID so apps would just work like before.
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Very true, using the non pro version will work but it's a mundane task to have to allow and then install each and every app one after another, very useful if you plan on testing different roms with your apps, the automated process is so much quicker and it'll save you time.
Half way through installing 300+ apps you'll be thinking of that pro key.
Plus the do deserve your cash, amazing app titanium.

When looking into these backup apps including titanium it says I need to be rooted to use the features i want. I'm not rooted and dont really plan to be. It's a shame really because i moved over to android so i had more freedom and control over my device and at first I had as much control as i needed with jellybean (more is better obviously) but the kitkat update pretty much made every sd enabled phone into a poor device. Plus I find the wifi range is really bad on kitkat but jellybean had so much better range. My point is that it's annoying that i should have to root my phone to make it as i want it and be able to toy with the settings when really it should already either have these features or be better optimised. Now I'm wondering if i should just root my phone rather than downgrading it? If i root it can i tweak the wifi range? And can I allow my apps to have better access to my sd card? Also if i upgrade to 4.4.4 can i still root the phone after? Cheers

If you root, it is easier to do on 4.4.4, and you can fix the sd card issue.
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Fantastic help from you guys, much appreciated. It's good to actually be on a forum without morons! Lol
Ok so im now possibly leaning toward the rooting route.. Would you advise getting it done by someone in a shop or doing it myself? I'm pretty competent but if it's a risky process then I'd rather it be done properly! Are there any good tutorials for rooting from 4.4.4? Also does rooting wipe the phone memory? Cheers
And any app recommendations for rooted phones that allow me to sort out the sd access problems, also apps that allow me to tinker with my wifi range etc.. Just any good full customisation apps really so i can really get this phone as it should be!

Follow my signature, its a one click solution and takes about 30 seconds

gregbradley said:
Follow my signature, its a one click solution and takes about 30 seconds
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Cheers pal

Ok so just to be sure.. My phone is totally standard running standard 4.4.4, all I have to do is download and run the tool and my phone is rooted? I don't have to make any mods to my phone first to prepare for it?
I only ask because people mention locked and unlocked boot loaders, i dont know what they are! Or the difference between them.
Sorry for being a pain!

No, just download newroot, run it, then you are rooted and have recovery.
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gregbradley said:
Follow my signature, its a one click solution and takes about 30 seconds
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You sir, are a life saver, I've been deciding to go root my device but ha Ave yet to have a one stop shop to cover all what is necessary. Cheers mate!
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How to transfer all data to new phone?

At the moment I have a G5, but am selling it. Right when it's gone I'm getting a OnePlus 3T. How would I transfer my data from my G5 to my OP3T when they're not side by side? Is there any other way other than relying on Google backup (because it didn't show my phone backups from my phone before the G5)

try helium if you are not rooted
or titanium backup if you are

amdsy3d said:
At the moment I have a G5, but am selling it. Right when it's gone I'm getting a OnePlus 3T. How would I transfer my data from my G5 to my OP3T when they're not side by side? Is there any other way other than relying on Google backup (because it didn't show my phone backups from my phone before the G5)
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Exactly what data are you referring to?

robdam1001 said:
Exactly what data are you referring to?
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Apps and such.

amdsy3d said:
Apps and such.
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Ehh Google will back them up for you

robdam1001 said:
Ehh Google will back them up for you
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Let's hope so.. just a bit off topic, would you say the switch is worth it? G5 to OP3T?

unFKNreal said:
try helium if you are not rooted
or titanium backup if you are
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Cool, I'll try it tomorrow.

amdsy3d said:
Cool, I'll try it tomorrow.
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I don't know much about the g5 but based on these specs, I'd go with the 3T. .
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/OnePlus-3T,LG-G5/phones/10313,9819

robdam1001 said:
I don't know much about the g5 but based on these specs, I'd go with the 3T. .
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/OnePlus-3T,LG-G5/phones/10313,9819
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The 3T is obviously the winner in speed. For me the things I'd miss most when K switch will be QHD (if I notice a difference), dual cameras, and removable battery. But I want 6GB of ram and the fastest Android phone xD. I just hope I don't make the wrong decision.

amdsy3d said:
The 3T is obviously the winner in speed. For me the things I'd miss most when K switch will be QHD (if I notice a difference), dual cameras, and removable battery. But I want 6GB of ram and the fastest Android phone xD. I just hope I don't make the wrong decision.
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Dual cameras?

Just switched from my good old Galaxy S5 to Op3T and I gotta say, while there is still some pros for the S5, the OP3T wins hands down. Coming from resurrection rom, I was able to transfer most of my settings via the setup process when it asks you if you want to get the settings from another phone. For whatever reason I was not able to make it work via NFC, so I had to use the nearby-devices method. This will pull in your google accounts backups as well as all apps installed via playstore. There is a couple of settings (eg. Nova Prime Launcher, k9 etc.) which I had to transfer by manually exporting on the old phone and importing on the new one and there is another couple of settings that didn't offer any form of automated migration. Mostly all the apps installed manually or via fdroid and the root tweaks. In my experience transfering data is never a 100% thing with whatever method you are using and this becomes more true the more you used to customize and tweak the old phone.

robdam1001 said:
Ehh Google will back them up for you
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Be carefull!
Everytime I restored Apps via Google only the app itself got installed but no data at all. And I have about 60 apps and all of them are relatively known. So I wouldn't rely on Google if your app data is important to you.

robdam1001 said:
Dual cameras?
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The G5 has a dual camera set up. 1 is a normal 16mp camera, other is a 8mp wide angle lens.

amdsy3d said:
The G5 has a dual camera set up. 1 is a normal 16mp camera, other is a 8mp wide angle lens.
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Ahh, thanks. Does the g5 support quick charge?

robdam1001 said:
Ahh, thanks. Does the g5 support quick charge?
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QC3.0

When you restore you apps I believe google through the first set up doesn't restore app data you have to manually go into each app and redo it. I usually do that. Google backs up contacts and you could use SMS backup restore to backup SMS and calls.
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You could try this amazing app that make my day transferring all the data from my dad old op2 to his new phone.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.xender

bmwbasti said:
Be carefull!
Everytime I restored Apps via Google only the app itself got installed but no data at all. And I have about 60 apps and all of them are relatively known. So I wouldn't rely on Google if your app data is important to you.
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Google restore is app specific..means if the app has implemented backup and restore of its data, it works..but most of the apps did not implement that, so it will just restore the app and permissions...

Titanium backup is my go-to, but it requires root. Used Helium without root but it fails on some apps.
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