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X1 powers down on slide close

Hi there, long time reader, first time poster. After searching on the forum for an answer I am posting for help. I was wondering if anyone else's X1 powers down when they slide the keyboard back in?
At first I thought it was the custom ROM I was using but after flashing back to the official R3 UK ROM it is still happening so I suppose it could affect anyone. Does this happen to you? If so do you know of a solution?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Tristan

I have the same problem but when my keyboard is slided up. When you slide it up, in like 15 seconds it will just turn off. The phone completely shuts off and not just turn off the display. I thought it was a custom rom problem too but i installed a different rom and came up with the same problem. I guess i will send it out to sony and let them fix it, only after softspl and stock rom is installed. But sony does fix it fast! They usually just give you a refurbish xperia instead of fixing your current one.

Ah that's what I mean, when I slide my keyboard in it happens. To be honest it's getting a crack up near the stylus as well (which is odd for one of the black ones I believe) so I definitely need a new one... I'm actually quite disillusioned with the phone altogether after both these problems but I guess Vodafone aren't nice enough to give me a different phone :\

Try closing it slowly(dont make it smash) and see if it still turn-off your unit.
I sometime have the same problem when I closed the slide quickly, so it smash to the another side and my unit went off. I think some power connector, sensor, switch inside must be loose or something.

You are right, I discovered this yesterday that closing it slowly does not power it off BUT today for some random reason the phone has turned itself off whilst doing it slow too. I'm getting quite fed up which is a shame because I quite like the phone.

tristyB said:
You are right, I discovered this yesterday that closing it slowly does not power it off BUT today for some random reason the phone has turned itself off whilst doing it slow too. I'm getting quite fed up which is a shame because I quite like the phone.
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This is definetely a hardware problem if it recurs accross ROMs. I'd say get a replacement NOW. BTW are you a girl (Tristy sounds like girls name haha)?

Try to insert a small piece of folded paper at the bottom of battery, your x1 may work properly even quick slide. (My x1 has been down the power for quick slide or small impact, but I just fixed it by doing that).
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Try it, and hope you can fix your x1 too.

poetryrocksalot said:
This is definetely a hardware problem if it recurs accross ROMs. I'd say get a replacement NOW. BTW are you a girl (Tristy sounds like girls name haha)?
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Yeah it's most definitely hardware and I'm afraid not, it's short for Tristan which is much more of a guys name over here.
As for vcivilen, thanks a lot, I'm going to give this a try until Vodafone get their courier here.... whenever that may be.

After getting off the phone (ironically not my x1) with Vodafone they acknowledge that this phone has two recognised problems. 1. This problem 2. sometimes it doesn't pick up business email (not really a concern to myself). Either way they are sending me a "new" x1. I treat the word new with some reserve as they don't stock it in stores anymore. I was assured it would be new but suspect I'll get some refurbished one until this one breaks... and another... haha!

tristyB said:
After getting off the phone (ironically not my x1) with Vodafone they acknowledge that this phone has two recognised problems. 1. This problem 2. sometimes it doesn't pick up business email (not really a concern to myself). Either way they are sending me a "new" x1. I treat the word new with some reserve as they don't stock it in stores anymore. I was assured it would be new but suspect I'll get some refurbished one until this one breaks... and another... haha!
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Enjoy your new X1. I am still going to think you're a girl because of the name (it's intuitive when i see tristy).

I'm experiencing this problem as well and I've learned to slide my phone slowly instead of "snapping" it back and forth.
However, when I pass it around my friends, some of them would still snap it hard and cause the phone to reboot. It doesn't happen all the time though.
Going to try vcivilen's trick and see if it works, if not, it is time to send it back to get that and the keyboard fixed...

i had this same issue as well.. and i thought it was the battery.. i did vcivilen's trick b4 as well, but this is in fact of the issue with the bad quality of the casing.. i have mine with cracks issue but i leave it till i got time to bring it to the service centre.. then i got this problem so i put that piece of paper like vcivilen did and it works.. after a few months, my touch screen wont work when its on landscape, wont respond to any touch.. now it wont even rotate the screen. when i open the battery cover, look under the battery and noticed the crack got bigger.. so if u have this issue i suggest you get it fixed b4 its too late.. its still covered by SE since its related to crack issue, but i lost interest in using xperia now, will fix it and sell it ASAP.. omnia touch pro would be my next device..

tristyB said:
After getting off the phone (ironically not my x1) with Vodafone they acknowledge that this phone has two recognised problems. 1. This problem 2. sometimes it doesn't pick up business email (not really a concern to myself). Either way they are sending me a "new" x1. I treat the word new with some reserve as they don't stock it in stores anymore. I was assured it would be new but suspect I'll get some refurbished one until this one breaks... and another... haha!
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Trust me - it wont be new.

Slider Problem degenerates into a slow death
I had the same slider problem. After about a week or so of it, it wouldn't turn on. I had to continuously take out the battery, wait 30 seconds then re-insert it. Eventually, applications stopped working, messaging disappeared, etc.
I tried re-installing the OS via Update 4-5 times over the course of about 2 weeks. It would work for a few days then, as before, apps started not working. Some even claimed missing files though I saw the files in file explorer.
I think it was a bad ram chip or something but I really couldn't tell. Since I'm in the Philippines, I took it into a local SE shop for repair. They kept it for 3 weeks "Under Observation" No kidding - that's the exact quote. Like they had an IV and a machine that goes "PING" hooked up to it.
Anyhow, after 3 weeks, they reported the unit as DOA to SE and I had a NEW - not refurbished - unit in my hand within a day.
This new unit is functioning flawlessly so far. I personally think they had a bad run of units of which we all seem to have been sold.

Neural666 said:
I had the same slider problem. After about a week or so of it, it wouldn't turn on. I had to continuously take out the battery, wait 30 seconds then re-insert it. Eventually, applications stopped working, messaging disappeared, etc.
I tried re-installing the OS via Update 4-5 times over the course of about 2 weeks. It would work for a few days then, as before, apps started not working. Some even claimed missing files though I saw the files in file explorer.
I think it was a bad ram chip or something but I really couldn't tell. Since I'm in the Philippines, I took it into a local SE shop for repair. They kept it for 3 weeks "Under Observation" No kidding - that's the exact quote. Like they had an IV and a machine that goes "PING" hooked up to it.
Anyhow, after 3 weeks, they reported the unit as DOA to SE and I had a NEW - not refurbished - unit in my hand within a day.
This new unit is functioning flawlessly so far. I personally think they had a bad run of units of which we all seem to have been sold.
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Ah you went directly to SE - yea that is probbably the best thing to do because Vodafone will definatley not give u a new one in the UK -
When you get your new one check to see if it says NN XPERIA X1 or Nearly NEw Xperia X1 - NN=Nearly New meaning it is used/refurbished they were sneaky

comeradealexi said:
Ah you went directly to SE - yea that is probbably the best thing to do because Vodafone will definatley not give u a new one in the UK -
When you get your new one check to see if it says NN XPERIA X1 or Nearly NEw Xperia X1 - NN=Nearly New meaning it is used/refurbished they were sneaky
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I never did think Vodafone would give me a new one but I shall definitely check this when they do deliver it. I do like the phone a lot but it's a shame Vodafone just don't catch on. I know they've stopped selling them in the shops due to a lot of these issues, I honestly think I should be given the option of another phone not just giving me something that could inevitably go the same way as my last one. Oh well... we'll see how this one goes before I rage at them

tristyB said:
I never did think Vodafone would give me a new one but I shall definitely check this when they do deliver it. I do like the phone a lot but it's a shame Vodafone just don't catch on. I know they've stopped selling them in the shops due to a lot of these issues, I honestly think I should be given the option of another phone not just giving me something that could inevitably go the same way as my last one. Oh well... we'll see how this one goes before I rage at them
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If u read my "mein Kampf" thread you will know how difficult vodafone can really be - i spent literally 2 hours a day on the phone to them because they never actually made the orders for delieveries and gosh it was just awful but if you make a fuss about not wanting a refurbished one (like i did) i got sent about 5 different x1's being promised they would be new only to find out they were "NN" but at the end i said this phone is the reason i started the contact and they said if you dont want it we can offer you a similar phone but x1 was the only Windows Mbile phone they offered If you ask them they will probbably give you an option for a different phone)

Oh God! I had read that Mein Kampf post before, about 2 or 3 months ago. That was you hey :\ bad times! I think I might see how long this new x1 they're bringing tomorrow lasts. I mean if it can last 6 months like this one has until I'm due an upgrade again then that'd be nice. I know there are a lot of good looking phones coming in the future. And I'm actually quite excited to see Windows Mobile 6.5 on my phone when it's all out of beta and being cooked into some tasty ROMS.
But I think we can both agree Vodafone are being a bit of a letdown. I've been with them for going on 6 years now, you'd think they'd appreciate their long time customers a little more than the possibility of a NN x1

I have same problem too when opening or closing the slider fast or any relatively violent lateral shock on the phone. Seems like some contact is loose inside the phone (Not battery contacts Im afraid). I also have the cracks in usual places.
Hope these problems all stop right here and phone works untill WM7 is ready.
Just tired of all these crap

tristyB said:
Oh God! I had read that Mein Kampf post before, about 2 or 3 months ago. That was you hey :\ bad times! I think I might see how long this new x1 they're bringing tomorrow lasts. I mean if it can last 6 months like this one has until I'm due an upgrade again then that'd be nice. I know there are a lot of good looking phones coming in the future. And I'm actually quite excited to see Windows Mobile 6.5 on my phone when it's all out of beta and being cooked into some tasty ROMS.
But I think we can both agree Vodafone are being a bit of a letdown. I've been with them for going on 6 years now, you'd think they'd appreciate their long time customers a little more than the possibility of a NN x1
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Well lets hope its gunna be new!

Touchscreen Issue

Hi,
Have just purchased a new Nexus one from the US (am based in India). So the phone is basically not under warranty.
The phone is a new piece and everything is in place. However there is a part of the screen that is unresponsive. It's the part where the "asdfghjkl" row of the keyboard is.
Have tried hard and soft reset
Was wondering if anyone else has faced such issues and whether this is a hardware or a software issue. Any suggestions on what I should do next?
Again I am based in New Delhi India.
Cheers,

If the screen is completely non-responsive to touch in that area (not just in the keyboard), it sounds like your digitizer (the touchscreen itself) is broken. I would contact the people you bought it from, because they may be willing to accept a DOA (Dead On Arrival) exchange.
If they aren't willing to do it, there are replacement digitizers you can get online, however, it does require a little finesse to get the phone apart and the touchscreen replaced.

bassmadrigal said:
If the screen is completely non-responsive to touch in that area (not just in the keyboard), it sounds like your digitizer (the touchscreen itself) is broken. I would contact the people you bought it from, because they may be willing to accept a DOA (Dead On Arrival) exchange.
If they aren't willing to do it, there are replacement digitizers you can get online, however, it does require a little finesse to get the phone apart and the touchscreen replaced.
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Yup,
Its completely non responsive in that area. A couple of time they do respond by sliding over the key. But touching the key does not register.
Replacing a digitizer sounds scary. Is there anyway I could possibly ensure that it isn't software issue or something before I take the leap and purchase a digitizer.
Also could someone give me links to a place from where I could purchase a digitizer and a good guide to replace the same.
Cheers,

Wooster123 said:
Yup,
Its completely non responsive in that area. A couple of time they do respond by sliding over the key. But touching the key does not register.
Replacing a digitizer sounds scary. Is there anyway I could possibly ensure that it isn't software issue or something before I take the leap and purchase a digitizer.
Also could someone give me links to a place from where I could purchase a digitizer and a good guide to replace the same.
Cheers,
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About the only way I can think of to check if it isn't software is to load different firmwares on there. You could try the passimg method to take you back to an older stock version of android, or you could unlock the bootloader and try a custom one like CyanogenMod.
Replacing the digitizer is a pretty in-depth job, but there was a guy on youtube that documented him doing it with like a 40+ part videos. It is what I used when I replaced mine.
As for replacement parts, I used ebay, but there are other sites out there that sell them. A search on google should pull them up (I can't do it here as the ones I found were blocked).

bassmadrigal said:
About the only way I can think of to check if it isn't software is to load different firmwares on there. You could try the passimg method to take you back to an older stock version of android, or you could unlock the bootloader and try a custom one like CyanogenMod.
Replacing the digitizer is a pretty in-depth job, but there was a guy on youtube that documented him doing it with like a 40+ part videos. It is what I used when I replaced mine.
As for replacement parts, I used ebay, but there are other sites out there that sell them. A search on google should pull them up (I can't do it here as the ones I found were blocked).
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Ok.
Am in office right now. So would go home and flash a different firmware. Will let you know if that works.
Also unrelated, the guide I read on Lifehacker suggested SuperOneClick for rooting the phone and installing a different ROM using ROM manager. So logically I don't have to unlock the bootloader right? Not that it would make a difference since the phone is anyway out of warranty. Was just wondering. Sorry if the query seems a tad noobish.
Cheers,

Nope. That didn't work. Rooted and flashed the latest Cyanogen Mod. The problem still persists. Sucks.
Have reverted to Stock ROM and Unrooted.
Any Help?
Cheers,

Enable full rotation, and use the phone upside down?

If you are having the same issue present on mulitple firmwares, I think it has to be the digitizer. Is there seriously no DOA warranty from the people you ordered it from? The seems like a bad company to deal with.
@rat haha... but it still doesn't solve his bad touchscreen... although he could at least type.

if you have cyanogenmod installed, there is a test module (under dev tools in the app launcher) called pointer location, which can visualise the pointer as your finger touchs the screen. if your finger go over the region in question (lower half, i believe), you can see if the pointer has been misdirected to a wrong place, or if the finger touch has not been registered at all. may not be a cure, but at least you'll know what the issue is. hope it helps.

dchn2 said:
if you have cyanogenmod installed, there is a test module (under dev tools in the app launcher) called pointer location, which can visualise the pointer as your finger touchs the screen. if your finger go over the region in question (lower half, i believe), you can see if the pointer has been misdirected to a wrong place, or if the finger touch has not been registered at all. may not be a cure, but at least you'll know what the issue is. hope it helps.
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Yes tried that. Got a mixed result. Horizontally swiping the screen from left to right on the non responsive area does not register anything. Swiping top to bottom slowly produces a small gap where the screen is not responding. However doing a fast swipe top to bottom does show I line even at the part where the screen is non responsive otherwise. Can't say what to make of it.
On the positive note, I had a word with the seller (on Amazon) about my current predicament. They told me that they could give me a refund/replacement if I were able to ship the product back to New Jersey. An insured package through Blue Dart wasn't however turning out to be a feasible proposition. So the seller has agreed to give me a part refund and let me keep the phone. The exact detail are still in negotiation. So lets see.
And finally, there is a feature in CyanogenMod which allows the top bar to be shifted to the bottom (for tablet owners basically). Enabling that option on my phone however shifts the keyboard a little up. Giving me full functionality (as the unresponsive part of the screen is not taken up by the keyboard anymore)
Now the only issue is while trying to type in the landscape mode with either the 'e' or the 'i' key not working (depending on whether you're holding the phone with the trackball on the left or the right)
So it's working fine for the past couple of days. Will be taking the phone to HTC here in India. They've given an initial quote of Rs. 500 (around $10) to replace the digitizer (labour only) provided I can procure the digitizer myself. A digitizer would cost me around $30-35 (including shipping). So a total repair job of around $40-50. Now lets see how much partial refund the folks at Amazon are willing to offer.
Since the phone is quite cheap (I got for $269 unlocked) doesn't make sense to send it back and incur a fortune on shipping alone.
Sorry for the long post. I'll try to post a screen shot of the 'Pointer Location' results.
Cheers,
Roy

Here are the screenshotsscreenshots
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This one is moderate speed vertical Stokes. Notice how the colour changes as the pointer approaches non responsive area.
Tried to draw straight horizontal lines. Gets fuzzy in the non responsive area.
Fast vertical lines. Does not seem to be a problem here.
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And here's showing that all keys work fine in portrait.
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Bump. Any suggestions?
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[Q] i9000 colours washed out after new screen

Hi,
My screen died and have had to get a new one installed. The thing is, the new screen is fine, but the colours are really bright, even on the lowest brightness setting. I bought it to the attention of the guy in the shop, he took it off auto which was better but now I'm using it, it's actually not right at all.
The brown and greys of the UI should be dark, everything is too bright. The OS is still at the latest version from Samsung, GINGERBREAK.XWJVH which is what I had before.
I've looked all over and cannot find anyone with the same problem. Does anyone know if this is the software problem that I have seen in other threads or a hardware one? It just seems strange that my old screen was darker than this.
Thanks,
Luke.

new screen a genuine samsung product? I think its with the hardware...

It could be that an LCD screen has been put in. We are meant to have an AMOLED screen. Samsung did start shipping SGS with LCD screens when there was a shortage but im not sure how to tell for sure. Remember AMOLED is meant to have near enough pure black. Does your screen have this? If not its very likely LCD.
Also you can try using a colour tuning app. I know there is voodoo colour or voodoo screen. (Not sure if its on the market)

madushan92 said:
new screen a genuine samsung product? I think its with the hardware...
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The guy said it's supposed to be. Going to take it in to get it checked.
Luke.

Talon26 said:
It could be that an LCD screen has been put in. We are meant to have an AMOLED screen. Samsung did start shipping SGS with LCD screens when there was a shortage but im not sure how to tell for sure. Remember AMOLED is meant to have near enough pure black. Does your screen have this? If not its very likely LCD.
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This is what I thought, I'm going to get him to ring up and find out, if it's not AMOLED, it's getting replaced!
Talon26 said:
Also you can try using a colour tuning app. I know there is voodoo colour or voodoo screen. (Not sure if its on the market)
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Will check, but it's not rooted.
Thanks,
Luke.

Talon26 said:
It could be that an LCD screen has been put in. We are meant to have an AMOLED screen. Samsung did start shipping SGS with LCD screens when there was a shortage but im not sure how to tell for sure. Remember AMOLED is meant to have near enough pure black. Does your screen have this? If not its very likely LCD.
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If I go to the apps menu, the background looks pure black to me.
Luke.

Have you tried a factory reset?
If you are in the UK or within warranty try take it to Carphone Warehouse, one that has a repair centre. Don't tell them you changed the screen (it may void warranty, unless you took it to a Samsung authorised repair shop) and ask to update to the latest firmware. They usually have it back to you within the day unless they are busy in which case you can collect it the next day. If this doesn't work then its most likely the screen.
Also look for ways to find out what type of screen is installed. Im sure others have faced this issue before. Good luck

Talon26 said:
Have you tried a factory reset?
If you are in the UK or within warranty try take it to Carphone Warehouse, one that has a repair centre. Don't tell them you changed the screen (it may void warranty, unless you took it to a Samsung authorised repair shop) and ask to update to the latest firmware. They usually have it back to you within the day unless they are busy in which case you can collect it the next day. If this doesn't work then its most likely the screen.
Also look for ways to find out what type of screen is installed. Im sure others have faced this issue before. Good luck
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Nope, not tried a factory reset, would have to back everything up somehow. Took it to a techcentre.co.uk in wakefield. I did email Samsung and asked about whether a screen was covered by warranty (it's not) a while back tho.
Luke.

I took some photos on my N900 to show you:
20090101_003 by lucretia9000, on Flickr
20090101_001 by lucretia9000, on Flickr
20090101_002 by lucretia9000, on Flickr
They look a bit darker on the N900, but trust me, they're not on the I9000.
Thanks,
Luke.

Cant get it to work, ill try again later...
here we go, it was actually quite simple
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TBH they look kinda similar, but i guess we'll have to put it down to camera. Are you sure it looks washed out?? I thought so before but next to yours...it doesn't really look bad, yours looks better in areas.

Yup, see how dark yours is on the greys.
Luke.

Ok, was sitting with the galaxy in my hand, a few times with light pressure in the top left corner of the screen caused the colours to darken to normal.
Then the following day after charging, turned it on, the colours were dark. It has been right for the last 2 days...it has just reverted to uberbright again.
Faulty screen?
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Yh could be... but because you said you press on a corner I suggest you look up the videos that show the opening up and see where the screen connector is. Its possible they didn't install it properly. Also I think the screen has to be glued to the digitizer. (Not sure). What happen when you contacted them, did they offer to check it? Its worth giving it back to them, you've had problems since day one and it hasn't been 30 days so should still be under the return/faulty product policy

They sent it back to head office where they apparently took it off and reconnected it. I basicaly said to the guy i wsn't happy. He said nothing. I just walked out wss so pissed off.
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Also, this flip is not constant, so is annoying i cannot get it to change on cue.
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Hmm im sure they have a complaints department... When you go to them tell them your not happy and that you want it fixed or your money back. You want a new screen put in.
Try get some evidence like the picture your put up. Have the same picture when its washed out and then when you can get it working properly bring that same picture up and take a photo of your phone again.
Also threaten them not physically but with reviews. Say that you are going to go onto every review site and tell them of their crap service. That you are actively part of forum sites like xda etc and will preach their awful service. Which you have already started here.. You can do it on google maps as well. You can remind them that having one bad review usually counts for more in both ratings and perspective then a few good reviews.
Btw i unfortunately broke both the screen and digitizer the other day and by your experience I wont be using them (If insurance pays out, so glad i didn't cancel it, otherwise i think it will have to go to ebay )
Finally you can tell them and take them to trading standards. They have sold you a faulty part and are refusing to solve the problem.

Here is what it looks like:
and the UI
Thanks,
Luke.

That is perfect! In the first video between 37-41 seconds its super clear there is a difference. Im sure that is not mean to happen that would be a proper fault in the phone and would have been corrected by Samsung and there would have been a recall and everything.
Do that in-front of them if you haven't already. Before you do though call and/or email the complaints dept. with a link to that video. And specifically tell them to look at 37-41 seconds on the first video. If they then don't agree to take another look at it or fix it then trading standards! It may be worth saying that in the email.
"I have been to .... and showed them my problem, told them about it multiple times. I am now showing you proof that this is a legitimate problem and am not happy with the service i am receiving. quote some crap from the website where they say they give great service and after sales support." Explain it has been less than 30 days and that you have been seeking support for this issue from the beginning. If you do not receive the support as stated by the website and as required by law you will be contacting trading standards for false advertising and poor service blah blah.... Just make sure you write it clear and to the point. Describe how you fix the problem in bullet points, and obviously say this is usually a temporary fix that lasts approx mins.
Hope that helps.. If you write that letter or contact them over the phone with most of the above and the evidence then they should fix it. Look through their website for what they say if they dont fix it and the guarantees they have for the service they provide. So you can quote them. BTW look through the trading standards website as well, because everything i have said is based on what I have heard and read from forums/articles/conversations. You need facts and evidence. I find shouting and anger doesn't usually work for me personally as i have a calm nature so its hard for me to portray anger lol If you can project your anger well then it does usually work quicker

Well, some success. I wrote them an email on the 4th, no reply, sent them another email demanding a response otherwise I would contact TS and give a bad review on Google Maps, was contacted the next day (I sent the email quite late in the day) by the MD, who basically agreed to give me a refund. I went today and got said refund. He saw the screen and I pointed out the banding. He was quite ok about it all really.
Don't get me wrong, their service is good, just bad that they don't know a good from a bad screen.
Luke.

Lucretia9 said:
Well, some success. I wrote them an email on the 4th, no reply, sent them another email demanding a response otherwise I would contact TS and give a bad review on Google Maps, was contacted the next day (I sent the email quite late in the day) by the MD, who basically agreed to give me a refund. I went today and got said refund. He saw the screen and I pointed out the banding. He was quite ok about it all really.
Don't get me wrong, their service is good, just bad that they don't know a good from a bad screen.
Luke.
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I am totally agree with you, my friend.
But this kind of trouble give a misconception of what a customer service should do in this case.
BTW things like that can happens, they're human like you.

Um.. bought a second hand unit, i think i need help.

Hi guys of xda!! I am jumping off from Symbian OS to Android! Bought myself a second-hand One for 300$ and I love the build quality, Boom Sound and all that!
However, it appears that I have been somewhat cheated by the previous owner, he's told me that it has a remainder of 3 month warranty left with HTC, but it expires next month. :X So I kinda have to look around my phone to see if there are any issues that I can highlight on when I send it (please do tell me if the problems I am about to mention are worth sending to HTC and leave me without a working phone for weeks)
Current issues I am encountering are:
1) It LAGS when playing games, watching Youtube and using the Facebook app, I am unsure if this is normal, but from what I see on the reviews, it should be close to buttery smooth, right? Come on, I didn't think the frame rate would drop to (roughly 20 fps?) on Jetpack Joyride! It just keeps stuttering! D:
2) I have triple checked with the previous owner on the rear camera issue on whether it'd have the tint problems, he had informed me that he had already gotten it fixed, which I believe it is. HOWEVER it did not occur to me to check the front-facing camera.. here's how the front-facing camera looks like (please forgive me if I am violating any image size limit on this forums. :\).
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It is WAY worse in lower-light, really, really RED. Tried Googling about, not much complaints on the red tint on the FRONT camera, should I get it fixed with HTC? Tried fiddling with the settings, doesn't change much, red tints are still present, is that normal?
3) Err, don't think there's any more other than the issues highlighted above, could you please suggest me to check on any common issues that I might have left out? So that I may request for a warranty-covered repair.
P/S: The lags and red tints are present no matter the phone's temperature, I've tried it in both coldness and warmth.
I have not attempted on rooting the phone or anything at all, here are the versions:
Android 4.4.2
HTC Sense 5.5
Software Number 4.20.707.6
HTC SDK API level 5.69
Kernel Ver. 3.4.10-g499e571
[email protected] #1 (uhhh HELP! is this phone rooted? Because I see the word root in the kernel! Just noticed this omgomg)
Baseband version 4A.23.3263.28_10.38r.1157.04L
Browser version Webkit/534.30
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Also to note: When I booted this phone for the first time, there was a welcome page to set up and things, and the camera image count was from 0001, but it came with an extra app called Wechat (it's a popular Whatsapp alternative here in Malaysia) I am unsure if the phone has been factory reset before it was handed to me, because if it was, I don't think resetting it again would help much, right?
Thank you so much for your time! Would really appreciate any help I could get! :laugh:

You can try to factory reset the phone and see if the lag is still there. Both my htc ones have red front camera in low light. You can't tell if your phone is rooted that way. My phone is also not rooted and shows [email protected] Check if there is supersu app installed, if there is that means its rooted

darksnoopy said:
You can try to factory reset the phone and see if the lag is still there. Both my htc ones have red front camera in low light. You can't tell if your phone is rooted that way. My phone is also not rooted and shows [email protected] Check if there is supersu app installed, if there is that means its rooted
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hello snoopy! May I ask if there is a way for me to backup my apps and settings into my laptop before I attempt a factory reset? Would HTC Sync be enough? I do not see any supersu app installed. Thank you!
About the red tint issue, I have actually compared this with my friend's HTC One as well, real time, his did not have any form of red tint whatsoever.. kinda worries me.

kuzumitaiga said:
hello snoopy! May I ask if there is a way for me to backup my apps and settings into my laptop before I attempt a factory reset? Would HTC Sync be enough? I do not see any supersu app installed. Thank you!
About the red tint issue, I have actually compared this with my friend's HTC One as well, real time, his did not have any form of red tint whatsoever.. kinda worries me.
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Use HTC Backup. Just do a backup before you factory reset, then when you're setting up the phone again, just choose the "restore from a backup" instead of starting fresh.
The red tint issue is just really random and you either have it or not. There really is nothing you can do about it other than talk with HTC and get a replacement.

aooga said:
Use HTC Backup. Just do a backup before you factory reset, then when you're setting up the phone again, just choose the "restore from a backup" instead of starting fresh.
The red tint issue is just really random and you either have it or not. There really is nothing you can do about it other than talk with HTC and get a replacement.
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I'm back, done the factory reset and attempted to play a game of Jetpack Joyride (no idea of other game I could test on) before restoring, still the same performance issues, stutters every five seconds or so, hard to not notice, is this normal?

kuzumitaiga said:
I'm back, done the factory reset and attempted to play a game of Jetpack Joyride (no idea of other game I could test on) before restoring, still the same performance issues, stutters every five seconds or so, hard to not notice, is this normal?
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No it shouldn't lag.

aooga said:
No it shouldn't lag.
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hmm.. is there even a chance for this to be a manufacturer's defect on the hardware that is causing the inconsistent frame rates, in your opinion?

kuzumitaiga said:
hmm.. is there even a chance for this to be a manufacturer's defect on the hardware that is causing the inconsistent frame rates, in your opinion?
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Try to run a benchmark and compare it with the results from other users

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Try to run a benchmark and compare it with the results from other users
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been doing so in the past minute.
Pi in 140, 141 average. Now downloading AnTuTu, is there a benchmark app that you'd like me to test out on?
EDIT: AnTuTu score: 28403

kuzumitaiga said:
been doing so in the past minute.
Pi in 140, 141 average. Now downloading AnTuTu, is there a benchmark app that you'd like me to test out on?
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Antutu is ok, i am testing it now and i got 28403

darksnoopy said:
Antutu is ok, i am testing it now and i got 28403
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attached the screenshot in the previous post, that's odd, our numbers are exactly the same, is that common?

kuzumitaiga said:
attached the screenshot in the previous post, that's odd, our numbers are exactly the same, is that common?
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It's not common, but it can happen. This is what I got and my phone doesn't lag at all. 20291 in antutu. Benchmarks are totally useless.

aooga said:
It's not common, but it can happen. This is what I got and my phone doesn't lag at all. 20291 in antutu. Benchmarks are totally useless.
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hmmm... this is odd.. is there another way, in your opinion that you think would assist in this? thanks

kuzumitaiga said:
hmmm... this is odd.. is there another way, in your opinion that you think would assist in this? thanks
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Try a different ROM maybe? All HTC ones should perform almost exactly the same.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

aooga said:
Try a different ROM maybe? All HTC ones should perform almost exactly the same.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
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sorry, i think this is a stupid question, but wouldn't changing ROM be considered as rooting? or requiring a root? That would ultimately void the warranty right?

aooga said:
Try a different ROM maybe? All HTC ones should perform almost exactly the same.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
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urgh.. don't even know if it's actually just my eyes playing tricks on me or what.. the lag issues are only when playing games, ALL games. Home screens and stuff are just too smooth.

kuzumitaiga said:
sorry, i think this is a stupid question, but wouldn't changing ROM be considered as rooting? or requiring a root? That would ultimately void the warranty right?
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That's a tricky question. If your phone has a hardware defect, I don't think HTC can legally get out of honoring the warranty (but I'm not sure). The problem is, if you've rooted, it will be much harder for you to argue that it definitely is a hardware defect. I would have it serviced if you can get warranty service. And BTW, on my phone (rooted, custom ROM), Jetpack Joyride has occasional frames of lag (mostly in the beginning of the level), but gameplay seems smooth after that.

kuzumitaiga said:
sorry, i think this is a stupid question, but wouldn't changing ROM be considered as rooting? or requiring a root? That would ultimately void the warranty right?
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You can always relock the bootloader and remove all traces of you rooting it. (S off).
As the other guy said, if there really is a problem, I would get it replaced now.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE 9 TOUCH SCREEN NOT WORKING

So I have a galaxy note 9, and I've recently been using the s pen. because the touch screen hasn't been working all the time.. for instance, I can use the same part of the touch screen to open an app (lets say snapchat) for the same part of the screen it will stop working, then before you say its the app, ill get out of snapchat, to to my message app, and use my keyboard, and it will have the same issue, then ill get out of the app again, and touch where I was touching on the screen and it will work, I've managed to turn on the (show touches) in developer options, to show where its registering, and its not showing when I touch the keypad. I've tried to wipe this phone, I've tried to wipe the cache in recovery mode (its stock everything, stock recovery, stock operating system, and unrooted, and the bootloader is still locked) so I'm thinking it is a software malfunction, but I'm not 100% sure, because it sometimes registure as I touch somewhere else than I press, keep in mind (THIS IS WITHOUT S PEN) I would love if someone could help me to fix this issue, thank you soo very much if you want a video I can add a link to my google drive, where I can show you the issue
BEST REGARDS LIAMMMMM

Welcome to XDA
Any permanent magnets near the phone?
Does it fail to work in safe mode?

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Welcome to XDA
Any permanent magnets near the phone?
Does it fail to work in safe mode?
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No magnets, also no case, or screen protector. And no it doesn't work in safe mode, I've tried that too, sorry I didn't list it. I've even tried the (screen test) ill attach the pic of what i'm talking about, it tested fine, every test, and I tested it multiple times.
BEST REGARDS LIAMMMMM
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No magnets, also no case, or screen protector. And no it doesn't work in safe mode, I've tried that too, sorry I didn't list it. I've even tried the (screen test) ill attach the pic of what i'm talking about, it tested fine, every test, and I tested it multiple times.
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Try clearing the system cache then go into safe mode and check it again.
If it's not hardware, software and you did a factory reset (tested right after reset with nothing loaded*) it may be the firmware is corrupted, reflash to same version. This almost never happens, possibility of a rootkit**. If a reflash fails to fix it is hardware either the display or mobo.
*if you used SmartSwitch, factory reset again without using SmartSwitch. If it's working after that, hand load with care...
**Android 8 and lower are suspectable to the worm X-Helper. It can evade removal by worming out of the user partition. It's a nasty one. There's methods to remove it now without reflashing I believe.

blackhawk said:
Try clearing the system cache then go into safe mode and check it again.
If it's not hardware, software and you did a factory reset (tested right after reset with nothing loaded*) it may be the firmware is corrupted, reflash to same version. This almost never happens, possibility of a rootkit**. If a reflash fails to fix it is hardware either the display or mobo.
*if you used SmartSwitch, factory reset again without using SmartSwitch. If it's working after that, hand load with care...
**Android 8 and lower are suspectable to the worm X-Helper. It can evade removal by worming out of the user partition. It's a nasty one. There's methods to remove it now without reflashing I believe.
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how would i reflash to the same version? if its not rooted? or the bootloader isnt unlocked?

liammmmnnnn said:
how would i reflash to the same version? if its not rooted? or the bootloader isnt unlocked?
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I'm no expert but you can flash the same or latter official stock rom for the device without unlocking the bootloader.

My Galaxy Note 9 started doing the same thing 4 months ago. Some days it actually seems like its fixed but I mostly use the S-Pen instead. Its very inconvenient. I tried the safemode and I posted a few days ago in this forum asking about if I had to match the same base version. I was thinking about rooting it to see if that may fix the issue. Let me know how you make out. I can let you know if rooting the phone fixes mine. I sill need to figure out how to root mine because it is an AT&T phone from USA and seems the base version that is on mine is not all that popular based on m trying to find the matching base version firmware. Either way if you haven't figured out a fix for your by time I do the surgery on mine I will give you heads up on my success or failure to fix the screen issue.

nlellis8 said:
My Galaxy Note 9 started doing the same thing 4 months ago. Some days it actually seems like its fixed but I mostly use the S-Pen instead. Its very inconvenient. I tried the safemode and I posted a few days ago in this forum asking about if I had to match the same base version. I was thinking about rooting it to see if that may fix the issue. Let me know how you make out. I can let you know if rooting the phone fixes mine. I sill need to figure out how to root mine because it is an AT&T phone from USA and seems the base version that is on mine is not all that popular based on m trying to find the matching base version firmware. Either way if you haven't figured out a fix for your by time I do the surgery on mine I will give you heads up on my success or failure to fix the screen issue.
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Was it refurbished?.... I'm so upset.. just found out my phone was refurbished, the screen isn't original, the motherboard probably is original, the SIM card tray isnt original.. how I found this out, my phone back cover was blue and the body is black, so I decided to open the back cover, (yes I was careful) didn't break anything, and I found this sticker on the flex cable ( I will insert a picture of It), and it brought me to this site "mobile sentrix" where I found out I basically got scammed from a pawnshop selling to me for $200 such a scam, and I can't even return it because it's been well over a month now that I've had it, they would be like, "get out of my store" so I'm basically screwed..

This is the site that the screen came from that the pawnshop bought and sold as a fully working phone... I'm so upset

Keep in mind I'm not hating on that company, even if they scammed the pawnshop, I'm hating on the pawnshop that sold me that phone, and I tried to return it when I first paid for it, and showed him the problems and he got mad and said you get what you pay for and told me to get out of his pawnshop.. and I can sue him because it would caust way more to sue him than to get my money back, and I probably won't, I'd just get his shop shutdown, ughh

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I'm no expert but you can flash the same or latter official stock rom for the device without unlocking the bootloader.
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Found out that's not the issue at all, read my other posts..

liammmmnnnn said:
Keep in mind I'm not hating on that company, even if they scammed the pawnshop, I'm hating on the pawnshop that sold me that phone, and I tried to return it when I first paid for it, and showed him the problems and he got mad and said you get what you pay for and told me to get out of his pawnshop.. and I can sue him because it would caust way more to sue him than to get my money back, and I probably won't, I'd just get his shop shutdown, ughh
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If in the us take him to small claims court. Their rules vary by state. Fees are low, and if you win he pays the court costs!
Small claims court is an informal setting and the judge gives leeway to the participants. A lawyer isn't needed. Be respectful and state the facts, any evidence helps your case.
Don't let him slithzer away! Hammer em!

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If in the us take him to small claims court. Their rules vary by state. Fees are low, and if you win he pays the court costs!
Small claims court is an informal setting and the judge gives leeway to the participants. A lawyer isn't needed. Be respectful and state the facts, any evidence helps your case.
Don't let him slithzer away! Hammer em!
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But I feel they could use the fact that I took the phone *apart* to their advantage, and say I could have tampered with it, I can't prove that I bought it like this, the only thing I can prove is that the stickers are on the parts of the phone

blackhawk said:
If in the us take him to small claims court. Their rules vary by state. Fees are low, and if you win he pays the court costs!
Small claims court is an informal setting and the judge gives leeway to the participants. A lawyer isn't needed. Be respectful and state the facts, any evidence helps your case.
Don't let him slithzer away! Hammer em!
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Also what would I win? Just getting my money back? I honestly want more, cause I know I'm not the first person he's done this too, like I don't want more for me, I want like his business shutdown or something, or like to be told that he isn't able to do that, also he lied to me and said the phone was 8gb of ram, when it only has 6gb, and he didn't even let me touch the phone or look at it much till I paid for it, and it's a "as is" pawnshop, so if I had a problem after he basically is gonna say I couldn't bring it back