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Android P Beta on Huawei P20 Pro

Any ideas do we have a chance to get this beta ?) Or need wait for Pixel 3?)

Jooosu said:
Any ideas do we have a chance to get this beta ?) Or need wait for Pixel 3?)
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OP6, Xiaomi and others will come with Android P. But nothing dor P20 Pro for now.

I tried googling Porject Treble support for P20 <anything> and did not get anywhere. Based on Huawei's track record I fear 2019 for Android P on a P20 Pro. But sure as hell I am reluctant to buy any 2018 flagship phone that does not either have a Manufacturer confirmed Android P implementation schedule or is actually shipping with P or a Beta.

amouses said:
... But sure as hell I am reluctant to buy any 2018 flagship phone that does not either have a Manufacturer confirmed Android P implementation schedule or is actually shipping with P or a Beta.
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Hence most are grabbing a Pixel phone, I guess. I do enjoy my P20 Pro, but would like manufacturers to push updates more frequently.

Questions about the P30 pro Mystic Blue (USA user)

Hello, I just a brand "new" P30 Pro Mystic Blue, and I have a few questions that the community might be able to help me with. Firstly, places like Android Central and other reviewer websites says it has EMUI 10 preinstalled, but mine came with old EMUI 9.1. Are there any other users of the "new" P30 Pro and if so, do you also have EMUI 9.1 installed? Second question is how do I get access to the Beta for EMUI. It does not seem to work for users in the USA, are there any workarounds? Thanks.

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Hello, I just a brand "new" P30 Pro Mystic Blue, and I have a few questions that the community might be able to help me with. Firstly, places like Android Central and other reviewer websites says it has EMUI 10 preinstalled, but mine came with old EMUI 9.1. Are there any other users of the "new" P30 Pro and if so, do you also have EMUI 9.1 installed? Second question is how do I get access to the Beta for EMUI. It does not seem to work for users in the USA, are there any workarounds? Thanks.
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All users have 9. 1 and not 10 cuz Q is not offical yet. There is no workaround for getting beta, u had to register for geting that via ota therefor there is no other method for updating beta. I cant remember is usa listed for country that will be part of beta project, search for that list, it is somewhere on xda.

Ok thanks very much, since there is not any camera improvements with EMUI 10, I guess I'll just wait.

Kirin65 said:
Hello, I just a brand "new" P30 Pro Mystic Blue, and I have a few questions that the community might be able to help me with. Firstly, places like Android Central and other reviewer websites says it has EMUI 10 preinstalled, but mine came with old EMUI 9.1. Are there any other users of the "new" P30 Pro and if so, do you also have EMUI 9.1 installed? Second question is how do I get access to the Beta for EMUI. It does not seem to work for users in the USA, are there any workarounds? Thanks.
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me too i buy the new p30 pro mystic blue Europe Version it's came with EMUI 9.1 Security patch 1 September Not EMUI 10.
I watch in YouTube some video with EMUI 10 i don't know why it's not the same in marketing ???

where is the emui 10 !!!?

hey...
how i can install emui 10 without beta app !!
i can see any new update for emui 10 now...its bad company..

P20 is scheduled to receive EMUI 10 in March 2020.
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its bad company...
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You are welcome to sell your phone and switch to another brand that rolls our updates faster. Also, let us all know when you find one.

Iphones are good for long software updates. Huawei has a lot of issues with maintaining their new HMS since Trump went full child mode because apparently Huawei spies, even tho a lot of american tech (excluding Apple, i guess) spy on us since the dawn of time.
Emui 10 got rolled out in China for p20 pro, not sure if it is beta or not.
I will be switching (possibly) to an Iphone xs max, because i grew tired of software update issues and all. I really hope i don't get any hate because i want to switch to an apple product. Android is great too, but Google likes to ruin in each update

arty_a said:
P20 is scheduled to receive EMUI 10 in March 2020.
You are welcome to sell your phone and switch to another brand that rolls our updates faster. Also, let us all know when you find one.
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in march 2020 ? lol i will update to beta with unlock bootloder ^_^
You are welocme for your opinion and i will switch to oneplus 7 pro next week :highfive:

maahmd said:
in march 2020 ? lol i will update to beta with unlock bootloder ^_^
You are welocme for your opinion and i will switch to oneplus 7 pro next week :highfive:
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Beta completely locks the bootloader, some people on the forums claimed that, as well as being a permanent lock

The Restless Soul said:
Beta completely locks the bootloader, some people on the forums claimed that, as well as being a permanent lock
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Well what can we do ??

maahmd said:
Well what can we do ??
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Switch to OP7Pro as u mentioned?

maahmd said:
Well what can we do ??
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Simple. If you care about bootloader, go to oneplus or any other brand that allows custom roms. If not, stick to Huawei or go to Apple since it's the only brand who respects old devices(reason the price costs a kidney and a half) . Xiaomi counts too but they update their MIUI, not the android version, as well as oneplus too but uhh, not so sure about them yet.
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Huawei isn't really such a bad company. It's only that they are too lazy to provide after sales support for any sort of device. I get it, Trump issues, Google issues, HMS issues. They should roll out Harmony OS as a beta software from devices that have Kirin 970 and up and let everybody develop apps and all, as well as test the software and allow people to report any sort of bugs. This way, the production of it will be a faster way to finish and polish Harmony OS. Their ego with "We are ready to replace you, Google" just make things worst, to the point where Trump can add a law to restrict all Chinese brands (yes, including Xiaomi and maybe Oneplus) from using Android all together, then everybody would be stuck on Android Q (or lower).
Either way, until Huawei fixes their issues and learns how to coop with the xda community and customers (now they need developers with HMS to develop apps, are we Huawei?), i will stick to Apple's Iphones, because even a 5 years old iphone still gets the latest software ( reason being the services, ofc). This is a lesson to be learned, Huawei. I am not the type of person who cares about bootloader and custom roms, but still, either coop with the community or watch your brand slowly die.

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Switch to OP7Pro as u mentioned?
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no i will take the oneplus 7 pro and stay with p20 pro like a Secondary device if necessary ^_^

Harmony OS upgrade for P20 Pro in 2022 H1

promised here https://liliputing.com/2021/06/huaweis-3-new-matepad-tablets-run-harmonyos.html

I'm skeptical but that's interesting. I'll have to replace the device anyway this fall (as I need a recent version of Google enterprise services to run on my device) but I suppose it would be nice to have some updates on the P20 Pro if only as a backup device

I already moved on but keeping P20 Pro as backup device (battery replaced). It is very nice form factor, quite light, and camera is still very good even by modern standards. Anyway, will be reading reports of Harmony OS upgrades on P40 with great interest. Not a fan of Huawei UI, but it might be nice to get updates and patches for a 4 year old device

This is good and bad at the same time. On one hand, Huawei has finally adapted a good alternative for android, which means more competition(even if it is a fork). Also we might get Apple-like updates, only time will tell. These updates are opt-in so you are not obligated to use HarmonyOS. On the other hand, you can say goodbye to Google services and any root methods that were possible and not found yet. Huawei"s services are still trash and I fear we won't be able to remove the system apps even with adb. If they pull an ultimatum and allow us to unlock our bootloaders/root our phones.....New OS or not, I am moving to another companies. Maybe Asus/Sony/Xiaomi

Well HarmonyOS really? I don't see a Point Moving to it.. Im more than Happy to use LineageOS 16.0 on it Instead a few Months ago, Well HarmonyOS doesnt Include Google Apps and Kills Root Methods.. well i don't care i will Stick with other Operating Systems on my P20 Pro and will not Go Back to Huawei's Made Software until i will in the Future move to a Different Manufacture (Xiaomi or OnePlus)
In terms of software, I am totally disappointed with Huawei .. also how they Handle the Bootloader Unlock with a code .. Like there is something to hide about EMUI.. sorry but that's ridiculous.

You guys should stop spreading misinformation. P20 Pro came with GMS from the get go. If you upgrade to HarmonyOS on a device that had GMS (officially or LZPlay), GMS will still be totally usable. Even with the final build of HarmonyOS. People already tested this in the betas and final version. Don't believe me? Take a look at this video:

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You guys should stop spreading misinformation. P20 Pro came with GMS from the get go. If you upgrade to HarmonyOS on a device that had GMS (officially or LZPlay), GMS will still be totally usable. Even with the final build of HarmonyOS. People already tested this in the betas and final version. Don't believe me? Take a look at this video:
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It's the first time I see anyone address the fact Harmony might support GMS. I don't think anyone here was knowingly spreading misinformation, but were rather making reasonable assumptions (I also assumed HarmonyOS wouldn't support GMS, even on my P20). I hope what we see in the video carries over to the final version, it would add a couple of years to the life of the phone

I'm not eager to switch from this totally usable(even great!) phone because of the huge slabs the flagship phones have became in the recent years. I'm not really eager to switch to harmony os either, because of the potential gms problem and integration. The only problem I have is the battery doesn't hold as well as it used to, but that is normal, the phone is 3 years old...
Bottom line, I still love it! It's almost a flawless flagship even today(thinking about changing the battery in their service, but it still lasts me a day)

andrei80 said:
I'm not eager to switch from this totally usable(even great!) phone because of the huge slabs the flagship phones have became in the recent years. I'm not really eager to switch to harmony os either, because of the potential gms problem and integration. The only problem I have is the battery doesn't hold as well as it used to, but that is normal, the phone is 3 years old...
Born line, I still love it! It's almost a flawless flagship even today(thinking about changing the battery in their service, but it still lasts me a day)
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I agree it's still a serviceable phone, but there are a couple of reasons I will need to jump ship. Lack of a major Android update (we'll be 2 versions behind and my employer doesn't let us keep a phone beyond n-1), and lack of security updates. Locking the bootloader midway through the sales cycle for this phone was a big mistake, it would have been one for the ages.

Guys good news. We gonna get HarmonyOS. Except it will be EMUI 12.
https://www.facebook.com/HUAWEICommunityGlobal/posts/3031974087090494

There is no official coment weather it will be harmony or android yet. Hoping for android...

andrei80 said:
There is no official coment weather it will be harmony or android yet. Hoping for android...
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Seeing as we didn't get Android 11 on this phone, I'd be surprised if they provided Android 12. That would be a first, as far as I can tell.

EMUI 12 (beta for now) for older global devices has been confirmed to be Android 10 - based with some bits of HarmonyOS UI code. Nova 9 has been an exception, as it was released with Android 11 - based EMUI 12.x. I highly doubt we will ever get an updated Android 11 - based EMUI 12 on our older devices, when it gets out of Beta.
[EMUI 12] The Taste of HarmonyOS
UPDATE 11/11/2021: EMUI 12 beta program for Mate 40 Pro, P40, P40 Pro, P40 Pro Plus, Mate 30 Pro stared in East Asia and Russia, and now is expanding to some markets in Europe. Download beta app and check if you can participate: https://bit.ly/Bet
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Huawei/comments/qzmn3t

Well, thats mega annoying, had some hope we get a up2date OS once again. Shame on Huawei, after my P20 Pro im done with them for sure too. Not that they restrict Hardware Levels, APIs and so on, but this is too much on top.

Can you record phone calls with this OS?

this morning I received notification that there is update to emui 12.0.0.225, size 4.42GB. downoloading

In Romania too. Not yet on my phone though

not much changed, mostly control center in the shade

solnyshok said:
not much changed, mostly control center in the shade
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Yup. I've been using it on my p30pro. Not a spectacular change

Question Why so many people wants Funtouch OS instead of Origin OS ?

I didn't buy the phone yet, but before I need to understand why this is so important to have Funtouch OS instead of OriginOS which is present on chinese ROM.
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DomZ said:
I didn't buy the phone yet, but before I need to understand why this is so important to have Funtouch OS instead of OriginOS which is present on chinese ROM.
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Funtouch is based on Android stock, so it's more easy to have Android base update.
Another reason is to avoid chinese stuff and have west countries function (android auto, apps clone, always on full range of notification).

maxant69 said:
Funtouch is based on Android stock, so it's more easy to have Android base update.
Another reason is to avoid chinese stuff and have west countries function (android auto, apps clone, always on full range of notification).
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I guess it depends on user's preferences. As far as I'm concerned, I wanted the Chinese phone and so far I'm satisfied. The only downside that bothers me is the lack of Android Auto. But I knew it before I bought the phone and I have one half satisfactory alternative solution.
Other differences are not important for me. But the western model lacks a lot of Chinese functions, which I consider significant, too.
And regarding system updates, I got one yesterday, and it is the second update in less than 2 moths. And before new year, I'm gonna have Android 12 (Originos Ocean).

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I guess it depends on user's preferences. As far as I'm concerned, I wanted the Chinese phone and so far I'm satisfied. The only downside that bothers me is the lack of Android Auto. But I knew it before I bought the phone and I have one half satisfactory alternative solution.
Other differences are not important for me. But the western model lacks a lot of Chinese functions, which I consider significant, too.
And regarding system updates, I got one yesterday, and it is the second update in less than 2 moths. And before new year, I'm gonna have Android 12 (Originos Ocean).
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Bro origin os ocean is not android 12 its android 11 still. I have origin os ocean software but its on android 11. Hope we get android 12 soon on vivo x70 pro plus

JohnWick90 said:
Bro origin os ocean is not android 12 its android 11 still. I have origin os ocean software but its on android 11. Hope we get android 12 soon on vivo x70 pro plus
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You are right. I was surprised when I noticed that it is still android 11 after last update. Somewhere I found that stable android 12 comes in May or June and it would be ocean 3.

piskr said:
You are right. I was surprised when I noticed that it is still android 11 after last update. Somewhere I found that stable android 12 comes in May or June and it would be ocean 3.
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Damn andoid 13 will be introduced that time and vivo will release android 12? I didnt know vivo is the slowest in software updates

Does teh Funtouch OS work with X70+ Pro? Do you need to custom flash the ROM to work? Thanks in advance

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Does teh Funtouch OS work with X70+ Pro? Do you need to custom flash the ROM to work? Thanks in advance
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Do you have the Origin OS?

Because funtouch doesn't lock bootloader like OriginOS and origin is filled with Chinese bloatware it took my 3 days to uninstall it and I switched to nova launcher. 100% don't go for ORIGIN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD they won't even let me do adb debugging to remove their annoying crap

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Does teh Funtouch OS work with X70+ Pro? Do you need to custom flash the ROM to work? Thanks in advance
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I would be interested in that too. I had Funtouch OS on V60 Pro + and it was ok. Now I have Origin on V70 Pro + and I don't like it at all.

hatryan said:
I would be interested in that too. I had Funtouch OS on V60 Pro + and it was ok. Now I have Origin on V70 Pro + and I don't like it at all.
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OriginOS is supposed to be the successor of funtouch this is why they are rolling them out for devices made for Chinese markert. However I really dislike it when a manufacturer tries to lock you out of the phone you paid for. This should be a violation of consumer rights but then again you're dealing with a company that operates in a country with no rights so if you buy a phone that is aimed to be consumed by Chinese market you really don't have much to say

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OriginOS is supposed to be the successor of funtouch this is why they are rolling them out for devices made for Chinese markert. However I really dislike it when a manufacturer tries to lock you out of the phone you paid for. This should be a violation of consumer rights but then again you're dealing with a company that operates in a country with no rights so if you buy a phone that is aimed to be consumed by Chinese market you really don't have much to say
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Consumer rigths? Chinese versions are supposed to be sold in chinese market so you can't blame Vivo.

maxant69 said:
Consumer rigths? Chinese versions are supposed to be sold in chinese market so you can't blame Vivo.
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This is exactly what I said my friend, we really don't have choice to complain

5g, VoLTE, WiFi calling, Call recording is the most important reasons to have Origin OS Ocean for Vivo X70 pro Plus in Greece at least. I dont know other countries. Non of them working for the global fan touch os version. So.. i prefer Chinese that everething is working fast and perfect except android auto and backup to google drive...

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5g, VoLTE, WiFi calling, Call recording is the most important reasons to have Origin OS Ocean for Vivo X70 pro Plus in Greece at least. I dont know other countries. Non of them working for the global fan touch os version. So.. i prefer Chinese that everething is working fast and perfect except android auto and backup to google drive...
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Apart call recording, everything work on global version

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Apart call recording, everything work on global version
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You are from Greece? If yes what provider you have? Because Wind and Cosmote i tried is NOT working...

[email protected] said:
You are from Greece? If yes what provider you have? Because Wind and Cosmote i tried is NOT working...
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Which device?

maxant69 said:
Which device?
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x70 pro plus

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x70 pro plus
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Do you have global version? I live in Italy and all works with Vodafone

maxant69 said:
Do you have global version? I live in Italy and all works with Vodafone
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A friend have the global fantouch version and i have the chinese version ocean origin os.
He have wind and cosmote and i have cosmote... nothing works on global and everething working on mine.
You have global and vodafone and you have 5G working? And most important you have VoLTE and WiFi Calling working too? If yes the problem then is here in Greece only.