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S10 plus Vs M20p

Not in English guys but interesting test
https://youtu.be/_wqYfkLHQbc

I'm switching from my current Mate 20 Pro to the 1/12 S10+. The main, and pretty much only reason is storage: as I need Dual SIM, I just can't expand my 128GB to anything more, unless I use something OTG-related. God bless this Hybrid SIM slot stupidity. I'll miss some great Mate 20 Pro stuff I guess, such as
- battery. I seriously doubt I'll get something better there, there are already voices around stating the S10+ eats battery like a mad when used with 2 SIMs
- IR sensor. Old tech, but so handy sometimes
- Face recognition. The S10+ is supposed to use something similar to what the Mate 10 Pro got at a later point, nowhere as powerful as the Mate 20's 3D facial recognition. The Mate 20 Pro detects my face even with zero light, the Mate 10 Pro didn't and I guess the 10+ won't either.
- I'm not a great fan of those ugly, giant, round Samsung icons, but themes are not that far away...

Fafner76 said:
I'm switching from my current Mate 20 Pro to the 1/12 S10+. The main, and pretty much only reason is storage: as I need Dual SIM, I just can't expand my 128GB to anything more, unless I use something OTG-related. God bless this Hybrid SIM slot stupidity. I'll miss some great Mate 20 Pro stuff I guess, such as
- battery. I seriously doubt I'll get something better there, there are already voices around stating the S10+ eats battery like a mad when used with 2 SIMs
- IR sensor. Old tech, but so handy sometimes
- Face recognition. The S10+ is supposed to use something similar to what the Mate 10 Pro got at a later point, nowhere as powerful as the Mate 20's 3D facial recognition. The Mate 20 Pro detects my face even with zero light, the Mate 10 Pro didn't and I guess the 10+ won't either.
- I'm not a great fan of those ugly, giant, round Samsung icons, but themes are not that far away...
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sounds like the Mate20 is a much better advantage to a s10+. Since storage is the only issue, have you considered cloud storage? I can't think what could take up 128gb, but then again I don't have big file sized games running.

I tested the phones, S10 Plus, Mate 20 Pro (I have it) and S10:
- Huawei display (boe) is more colored than s10 plus/s10 even on Vivid colors settings for Samsung!!! (for ex. S8 has more saturated colors)
- Camera: both cameras (front and rear) are much worse than M20 Pro. I took same pictures with both and compared on phones displays and also on 4K QLED TV Samsung/LG 4K TV. M20 Pro is the winner from far, I don't know how they get 109 points on dxomark.....Front facing camera got more details on M20 Pro, both phones on 0 Beauty Face Mode. Also the zoom mode is more detalied on M20 Pro. I didn't test the video recording.
- Speed: both phones are the same but the S10 plus was empty....

alexxutzu said:
I tested the phones, S10 Plus, Mate 20 Pro (I have it) and S10:
- Huawei display (boe) is more colored than s10 plus/s10 even on Vivid colors settings for Samsung!!! (for ex. S8 has more saturated colors)
- Camera: both cameras (front and rear) are much worse than M20 Pro. I took same pictures with both and compared on phones displays and also on 4K QLED TV Samsung/LG 4K TV. M20 Pro is the winner from far, I don't know how they get 109 points on dxomark.....Front facing camera got more details on M20 Pro, both phones on 0 Beauty Face Mode. Also the zoom mode is more detalied on M20 Pro. I didn't test the video recording.
- Speed: both phones are the same but the S10 plus was empty....
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DXO is not a reliable source in my opinion, many people actually stated the same thing.
Even in unbox therapy, he stated that the selfie camera wasn't that great.
I've seen the s10 in the store and wasn't impressed, will try to test it more

As expected almost everyone is believing the hype from Sammy. It has been like that ever since until first adopters starts complaining here and there. DX0 rating means nothing to me and has never influenced my decision to buy the phone I want. S10-series punch holes looks ugly to me as well as those terrible looking icons. I prefer using the stock launcher all the time so those icons are an absolute turn off to me. They say EMUI is ugly but look at Sammy's latest UI its as if they are following Xiaomi's footsteps as far as UI design is concerned. No pun intended.

The funny part? Mine mate 20 x with many apps installed and working in background, was faster than demo GS10 with no app

I've seen videos where the S10+ battery is much much better than the M20 Pro.
But I share my concerns about the face unlock, it is one of the best features of the M20 Pro.

giorgoxxi said:
I've seen videos where the S10+ battery is much much better than the M20 Pro.
But I share my concerns about the face unlock, it is one of the best features of the M20 Pro.
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I never judge battery from those videos, as real world usage is quite different.
When i had my galaxy s7, a lot of the time, Android System consumed the battery and the SOT got worse with Nougat.
Never happened on the Mate 9 or 20 Pro/X.

I think the batery is almost identical,i have 7,5-8h sot in a full day of usage
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Seems like there is a massive difference between the 855 and the Exynos S10 Plus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgRnbm9wrzg

S10 vs P30

I'm wondering if any people here have also tried the P30.
I'm trying to decide between the two. I want a headphone jack and card reader so I can't go up to the Plus. I also think that 6.1in is at the high end of what is acceptable for size for me. (I currently have a Z5 compact 4.6in phone).
The night mode is very impressive on the P30 but the S10 is not bad either. I've read that the colors on the P30 can be off but I think that color can usually be fixed much more easily than trying to add missing detail (which is impossible)
I do require an unlockable rootable phone. I want to be able to use apps like adaway, titanium backup, etc. More importantly, the ability to root has allowed me to keep my phone much longer with custom ROMs and security updates. It sounds like I can just buy a snapdragon version from china.
For the rest, display, performance, I think it is close enough for me.
I'd appreciate any insights/recommendations. It is hard to decide.

Since it's unknown what's gonna happen to huawei in the future I would recommend you not to buy any huawei device

TonyTellz said:
Since it's unknown what's gonna happen to huawei in the future I would recommend you not to buy any huawei device
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As it looks like the current issues only affects future huawei devices and I'm not looking to buy a future device (just a current one) there should be no affect. While this is somewhat of a factor, I'm trying to compare the phone based on their merits first

I have an S10+ and P30 Pro. My thoughts:
Camera- Under normal conditions, the P30 Pro has the POTENTIAL to take better shots than the S10. That being said, the S10 takes good shots more consistently than the P30 Pro. However, the P30 Pro takes better night shots when using night mode, no question.
Battery life- My P30 Pro overall has better battery life than my S10+, but that's because the screen resolution is lower, and EMUI has a habit of being too aggressive when keeping apps in "sleep" mode. I often miss notifications because of it.
Screen- The P30 Pro has a good screen, but the S10+ wins hands down. No surprise there.
Sound- For whatever reason, Huawei decided to go with a single down firing speaker this time around, versus the stereo speakers on the P20 Pro. Because of that, the sound on the S10 is leaps and bounds better.

Thanks. For the camera, how is the p30 sometimes worse? Is it easily fixable? Is this because the auto to mode works better on the s10? For night mode a have you noticed any color issues? If so, is it easily fixable?
Are you using the snapdragon version of the s10?

Hi man.
Here is what I have experienced and owned.
I had a P20 Pro 1 year. Wow, my better device in my life. Short story, I give it to my girlfriend and needed a new cellphone.
I bought P30 and have it for one week. Wonderful camera and battery. But all the rest was bad.... : bad speaker, bad audio call, no water resist,, etc.
I finally bought S10, and I'm very happy with it. All is better, except battery life and camera.
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And don't forget that Huawei has that stupid proprietary NM card slot, which for me is next to unusable.

I just went from P20 pro to S10. I miss the battery on the huawei device but i had been 6 months without a security update (thanks huawei/ee!). P20 pro camera night mode is astonishing. The Ai forthe camera consistently led to greens that were too green and blues that were too blue. Plus loss of some texture. You needed to be a camera expert to get a properly good photo with the P20 pro. The lower res screen is probably how the battery was so efficient, but EMUI would ax google play music mid-song while i was running and frustrate the hell out of me, plus it killed PoGo every few minutes, especially if i tabbed away from the app to another app. Apart from the battery, the S10 is a drastic improvement across the board.

No wireless charging on the P30 which is dealbreaker for me

I had a p30 pro, now on a s10 exynos due to an insurance claim. I chose the s10 due to concerns about huawei's future and also to try the s10.
As others have said, the p30 pro camera is stunning, but not without it's flaws.
Specifically, by camera:
- The p30 pro wide angle camera is sharper and more detailed than the s10's wide angle camera in good light. Despite being the same f2.2, in low light, the s10 camera is less smeary and holds the colours better. The raw files from the p30 pro hold up well to sharpening and exposure tweaks. I'm quite impressed with the edge to edge sharpness of the p30 pro wide angle in bright light, while not a Canon 17-40mm L series it was impressively sharp. Whereas the s10 wide angle does get blurry nearer the edges in a more obvious way, and can be distracting for architecture or foliage.
- The main RYYB camera on the p30 pro has incredible detail in good light and reasonable detail in low light. The 40mp raw dng files (which are typically 80mb in size) have a lot of latitude to work with in lightroom, and the 10mp jpgs are good. The AI sense is quite clever and can often give pleasing jpg images, however I found it over sharpened at times.
The portrait modes are clever and more automatic than on the s10. The background blur is also more convincing, even though my p30 pro had the old firmware before the time of flight sensor was activated.
However the RYYB sensor still feels beta. The colours are often wrong in jpgs (although apparently the latest v162 firmware has improved this), and the raw files in lightroom need significant work to avoid weird purple or green tints. It took me a lot of time to build up a lightroom profile that handled the raw files with the right colour modifications.
It's a very capable sensor with lots of potential and the ability to far out resolve the s10 camera, but can let you down with poor colour rendition.
Lastly on this one the jpgs from the p30 pro were often a bit darker than I would prefer, so I tended to boost exposure by 0.3 to 0.7. The s10 is spot on.
- The 5x zoom on the p30 pro in my opinion is a bit wasted. I found it to be a fun toy but a 3x zoom would be more practical for general day to day or travel photography. After all, when was the last time you bought a 125mm prime lens for your camera? Never? Whereas a 75mm would be more common.
The 5x zoom on the p30 pro is lower resolution than the 2x zoom on the s10, although obviously the focal length is so different it's hard to compare directly in terms of detail. The colour rendition between the two is similar. I found the 8mp raw files on the p30 pro 5x zoom to be a bit dull but easy to boost, and they were reasonably sharp. The s10's 2x zoom seems to give more pleasing jpg images straight from camera. Again, I found the 5x zoom to be a bit of a gimmick. 3x would be my preference.
Overall, I thought the p30 pro had more potential, and the ability to shoot dng raw with all three cameras gives more creative freedom. I liked that the main camera shoots 10mp jpgs and 40mp raw simultaneously, so the jpg is easy to share, but you have the full raw file still.
The portrait mode on the p30 pro was seriously was impressive with convincing fake bokeh and I can't get the s10 to do anything close in live focus. The p30 pro made it easy.
The s10 wins for dependability of colour rendition and jpgs out of camera that are generally more pleasing. If you've had an s8, the main camera of the s10 is similar with slightly better detail.
If the software upgrades for the p30 pro improve the colour rendition then that would be a winner.
I liked the frequent software updates from huawei and I hope that continues for P30 Pro owners.
Other notes -
The battery life on the p30 pro was incredible. I was blown away. Yes the screen is 1080p, but I run the s10 in the same resolution so that's not a factor in battery comparisons for me. The p30 pro seemed to last forever.
The screen on the p30 pro is duller than the s10 but it's not bad. People would have you believe 1080p is a huge sin, but it's not noticeable in daily use.
The notch on the p30 pro was better in the middle. The cut out on the s10 still bugs me, it makes the status bar so fat.
I liked huawei's launcher, and for the first phone in a long time I stuck with the stock launcher and didn't install nova, it was that good. I'm back to nova on the s10.
Nm format is daft. But the p30 pro had 256gb storage so didn't bother me.
I found I missed the headphone port being absent on the p30 pro, despite having Bluetooth headphones at work and for running, and a Bluetooth speaker at home and Bluetooth in the car. Somehow, that 3.5mm jack is still useful. I missed it most when travelling overseas and I couldn't use the same wired headphones as for my iPad. 16 hour flight plus flights either side = wired and not needing to charge is handy.
The p30 pro seemed to have a very fast modem. I noticed 4g to seem faster than on Samsung phones when tethering or downloading on the phone, however I failed to do any speed tests to prove this.
The in screen fingerprint reader is faster on the p30 pro, although I understand a software update is out in some regions for the s10 that speeds it up.
I didn't like the power and volume keys on the same side for the p30. I never got my muscle memory down pat for which key was what.
The s10 feels more polished while the p30 pro has more cool tech and potential, and both devices are certainly great camera phones. Either one will give the owner much happiness if you can enjoy the strengths and not let the faults annoy you, knowing every other camera phone also has faults.
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I noticed the NM slot. I figured that I can just buy a NM card to replace my current microSD. I usually leave it in the phone. I guess there is a slight annoyance that I'd need an adapter if I wanted to directly read it on my computer.
As for battery, I wonder how the P30 (non-pro) compares to the S10 (snapdragon instead of ex). I thought the snapdragon was supposed to be more energy efficient.
I think the cameras in the pro are the same or similar to the non-pro. (ie 3X vs 5X zoom) so I'll assume your description applies to both. For me, any camera I've used has always given pretty good photos during the day in good lighting. I've always struggled with lower lighting or night photos. That is why I'm focusing so much on this.
It sounds like the consensus is that when used in auto mode without editing, the S10 gives better looking photos. However, with post-processing and editing, the P30 photos are better (especially night mode). If I have to spend hours to manually edit each photo one by one, I think that may be a deal breaker. If I can feed all my photo through a batch processing (ideally via an app vs copying to the computer), then I don't have an issue with that. I typically never do any fancy filters to my photos (ie. bokeh) other than fixing the dynamic range. Currently on my phone, I open up each one in google photos and click AUTO and about 90% end up looking better so that has been my process. I find that quite annoying and which I could batch it. I use Open Camera with DRO setting as my main camera.
AS for everything else, it sounds like the P30 is more "buggy" than the S10. Though, I usually use the MFR rom with Nova for a while then try to run something simpler like Lineage.
Does that sound like an accurate summary?
Now that leads to another question. For the S10 and P30, are all the camera features exposed in the camera API? If I use another app (ie. Google Camera, Open Camera, A Better Camera), will it be able to do everything the MFR camera can do? (ie. Night mode, switching between cameras, etc)
I wish there was somewhere in the US I could try out the P30 phone.

P30 camera
Here's a P30 Pro DNG/RAW example from the main camera for those interested.
This is a 40mp DNG file processed to taste in Lightroom, just showing a 1024px thumbnail as an overview.
This is a 100% crop of that image in Lightroom.
The full 40mp DNG file is here if you want to download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nn4azasueiudc58/IMG_20190519_141152.dng?dl=0
Lightroom profile for processing is attached.

You don't happen to have the same photos taken with the S10 do you?
do you use the lightroom app or the PC app

eng3 said:
You don't happen to have the same photos taken with the S10 do you?
do you use the lightroom app or the PC app
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I could do a comparison of the same photo on both - generally the S10 is better JPGs, less room on the RAW. The P30 Pro needs the RAW to be processed to make it better than the S10, and it definitely has potential to be better.
I'm intrigued to know what the v162 firmware for the P30 Pro will do, it is supposed to fix the white balance issues by the camera. v153 firmware improved the fake bokeh on the P30 Pro. There is also a S10 firmware update that is supposed to improve the fake bokeh on the S10 so you can use the 2x zoom lens. The P30 Pro already lets you do fake bokeh at 1x, 2x, 3x (edit: I previously said wide, standard and zoom, which wasn't correct).
I use Lightroom on the PC only. The Lighroom Mobile app is clever but clunky. As a note, the camera mode in the Lightroom app doesn't support the 3 cameras on the P30 Pro or the S10.
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Fake bokeh comparison. Click on thumbnails for full image. Both unedited, straight out of camera. (Neither gives you a DNG/RAW file for fake bokeh modes.)
There is some minor difference in framing between the images.
In my view, the P30 Pro has better exposure and smoothness of fake bokeh. with a more pleasing image..
The S10 is dull and the bokeh not as pronounced, but more accurate. The S10 is closer to what the true life colours really were.
S10 exynos main camera ASD5 firmware:
P30 Pro main camera v153 firmware:

I wont give as detailed comparisons as the posts before, but if my simple personal opinions help any one then i,m glad to type them.
I always have two active phones. i have an s10 standard and a p30 non pro. i think its important to compare the two rather than a p30 pro vs a s10 or a p30 vs an s10+
i bought the s10 g973 first. It was bigger than any galaxy i have owned and i have had every one since the s2. its larger to the point where i don't feel comfortable texting and driving (i know i shouldn't, but i do constantly and will never stop). if you have long fingers it shouldn't be a problem.
The screen on the s10 beautiful. its quite an improvement even over the s9. i cant stand the camera on right hand side screen, or the way pie moved the clock to the left of the screen. on the p30 the camera is dead center, and i use the builtin software to black out the sides, its not noticeable at all and is far superior to the s10.
i have always rooted my phones and tablets. I must have owned a couple dozen devices over the last 5 years and never thought i could use anything unrooted. development on the s10 has been slow because of new security built in,but it has been picking up where its pretty simple to root, add twrp, back up/restore, and custom roms are coming out. None of it was like what we have seen in the past on Samsung phones but it seems like its just a matter of time.
i ended up buying a p30 as my second line, but i am now using it as my main phone. the size of it is just perfect for me. its wider, but thinner and shorter. It feels much smaller in the hand. I run the screen at 2340*1080 which isn't really a noticeable difference from the 3340*1440 of the s10 (even with the s10's higher dpi) because the size difference.
i dont play around with the cameras too much as i'm not a photographer, but in regular use the p30 is far superior than the s10. The s10 has made some improvements adding nite mode in its latest upgrade, but there still is no comparison... p30 all the way on the camera.
not having root on the p30 sucks, but its not as bad as i thought it could be, especially because the development (though picking up) has been very slow on the s10. if the p30 was rooted right now i wouldn't even touch my s10. i just like it that much better.
some of the negatives not being rooted..i am using adguard on the p30, its ok, but it isnt as reliable as adaway, though its easier to pause when something is blocked that you don't want blocked. The p30 has some built in options for black mode like its email client that work very well, but its not the same as being able to use substratum. i usually keep everything i can blacked out (not just a grayed out dark mode which i find ugly)
the battery is probably the biggest difference. Huawei devices have remarkable battery life. I know this from experience from the 2 huawei tablets and mate 10 i own. i was worried about not having wireless charging, but even unrooted, without greenify or built in optimizations in custom roms, its the best battery life i have had on any phone.
people have had trouble adjusting to emui, it may because i was used to it on the tablets i own. but i actually like it. hauwei has some things like AOD that i couldn't live without. they may may not be as refined as Samsung's with their color coding of messages, but its good enuf to over look. and the p30 has some features that surprised me after using samsung so long that samsung doesnt have like copying the tracking number only from a text or phone number from a missed call to search for them.
i have to think that the p30 will get rooted eventually after funkyhuawei or dc lounlocker is able to provide unlock codes for the bootloader.
i am pretty sure that john wu has found a way to get magisk to work on emui 9 and once the bootloader is unlocked the p30 will be rootable. hopefully its before i am ready to move onto a new phone, but i am sticking with the p30 for now.

Well I've never used EMUI so I dont really know how it differs from samsung's equiv. Generally, I use nova launcher so it overrides alot of it. My most common apps are maps, gmail, voice, camera, gallery so I don't typically use the apps provided through a specific skin. So I'm not too sure what affect it really has. I'm using lineage now on my current phone so I assume EMUI or samsungs thing will all just be "bloat" unless I find something truly useful.
I think if the P30 had an active root right now then I'd be much more inclined to go with the P30. Also if there were more activity on the P30 forum vs this one
As for the battery, I assume both are comparable and will be better than my current phone. It is hard to find a comparison of the SNAPDRAGON S10 and the P30.
As for the camera, I typically dont do any fancy shots like bokeh. I just want a shot with good lighting and color really. I have lightroom and use it sometimes, but if I have to go through hundreds of photos one by one just to get them on par with the S10, then that is a deal breaker for me . If the photos generally all have the same issues, and I just need to run a batch job, then that's acceptable for me. Obviously it would be ideal if the photos were good to begin with. I know future software updates COULD improve things, but I've heard that too many times to count on it.
I wish there were a B&M store that had P30's in the US so I could actually hold it in my hand and look at it.

Realme x2 pro display issue

I just got my Realme x2 pro yesterday and the first thing i did was to test the screen on a dark gray background+low brightness(10-20 percent). And the result is this...
Is this a common issue? Only color where i can see purple /pink like spots is the dark gray but only combined with low brightness and in complete dark room. If i go up to about 30 % or more everything looks fine. What should i do? Is this defective screen? Or just amoled issue. Thanks in advance.

Some spots are common with low brightness in Amoled screens, in my mi 9t pro happens a little bit, also at low brightness, but the spots aren't purple, mine are completely black.
I think you should return the phone and get another one if you can, Thats what I would do

It is both I mean it is a faulty screen and common Amoled issue
Manufacturers like Samsung and others put screens like this on the market and don't care because ppl are I don't know use to this?
Something more about these flaws
https://www.ee.co.za/article/how-to-use-imaging-colorimeters-to-improve-oled-display-quality.html
You can type in google something like a model of the phone plus "screen uniformity" and you will see the true beauty of OLEDs

I have also that issue, and also on the replacement model, in a different way and worse.
This is the amoled lottery, dark grays in low brightness is the worse color for amoled to get it uniformly.
If you are lucky you can get a better one near perfection or get a even worse.
I have seen this in a lot of amoled phones, s7 Edge (4 units), mate 10 (2 units), mate 20 (1), mi9 (3 units), mi9t (3). The perfect ones that I saw lately p30 pro (2), s9 (1), s10 plus (1).

I got used with the thing . I once wrote Realme about this and the have not answered my email .
Anyway it only occurs on dark grey combined wirh low brigtness , around 15-20 percent . If brightness reaches around 40 percent , it dissapears. And this only occurs on places with almost complete darkness. So i can clearly live with this.

You probably can't get a oled from Samsung at the minute without this... I've had 2x S10 plus one from eBay Snapdragon version and one from Argos UK version with this and my brother has had 2x note 10 plus both Snapdragon from ebay and his wife has a standard S10 from EE and they all have it to some degree... I sent both the S10 plus back and my brother sent his first note 10 back. I decided I'm not paying through roof for a S10 plus with screen issues and got the Realme X2 pro.... My X2 pro has this but not as bad as any of the S10 plus and also colour shift is nowhere near as bad and whites are much whiter.

Here is perfect. So it is a lottery

i had two and both with uniformity issue..more or less the same of oneplus7t..and a lot of other oled displays I had recently..the only one that was perfect was the mate 20 pro (with boe screen, not lg)

mine is perfectly fine , i think its luck about the panel

10bit or 8bit display

hi guys I'm thinking of upgrading from my note 10 plus just a question is the display 10bit like some are saying as ive been on the sony website and its saying the same as it did for the xperia 1from last year 10bit 8bit with 2bit software or something
Just asking as the oneplus 8pro is supposedly 10bit in total
Thanks

I don't know, but 4k HDR looks absolutely amazing!

It will be 10bit as it supports bt2020 and over billion colours.
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brockyneo said:
hi guys I'm thinking of upgrading from my note 10 plus just a question is the display 10bit like some are saying as ive been on the sony website and its saying the same as it did for the xperia 1from last year 10bit 8bit with 2bit software or something
Just asking as the oneplus 8pro is supposedly 10bit in total
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It is 8+2 bit just like oneplus.

It's really an 8bit display,

I also switched from Note 10 plus to this phone and love it so far! Screen is so crisp and colors are dead accurate in pro mode

Sony adverts it as a 10bit Display (8+2). And yes, the screen is the best part of this device.

Same as last year. It's 8bit with smoothing. It's not like 10bit. It's more like an in between.

So does the phone actually support 1 billion colors or is it like a 16m display?
Really tempted to trade in my note 10 plus for it bit I've also heard that the cameras arnt all that good either ?

Also another question does the display get bright when viewing hdr as ive heard that sony turned down the brightness of the display from the xperia 1 which I thought it wasn't bright enough then
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brockyneo said:
So does the phone actually support 1 billion colors or is it like a 16m display?
Really tempted to trade in my note 10 plus for it bit I've also heard that the cameras arnt all that good either
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Keep the note 10+.
The Xperia is still lacking in alot of areas, battery, display brightness, fixed front camera, little things like that don't add up to $1200.
When it drops to around $800-US then it'll be closer to it's worth.
It's just not worth it, no matter how beautiful it is when the experience is worse.

coilbio said:
Keep the note 10+.
The Xperia is still lacking in alot of areas, battery, display brightness, fixed front camera, little things like that don't add up to $1200.
When it drops to around $800-US then it'll be closer to it's worth.
It's just not worth it, no matter how beautiful it is when the experience is worse.
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Ya I'm debating to stick with the note 10 or it was xperia 1 ll or one plus 8 pro or even the iphone 11 pro max ?

brockyneo said:
Ya I'm debating to stick with the note 10 or it was xperia 1 ll or one plus 8 pro or even the iphone 11 pro max [emoji38]
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I come from Note 10 plus and not looking back. Vanilla Android UI is much nicer than One UI. i also missed flat screen. Camera is for sure better on 1 ii if you think when you take photos. I did side by side comparison of front camera and it's comparable to Note 10. At the end of the day, 1 ii is not for Instagram kind of folks other than this, superb phone
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Well I've ordered it through o2 UK so have 14 days to see if I like it over my note 10 plus :good:
How you finding the display and speakers over your note @mehdi_s82

Well got bothy note 10 plus and xperia and playing some hdr via YouTube and considering people saying the xperia display is dim its getting as bright as my note 10 when playing hdr videos

brockyneo said:
Well I've ordered it through o2 UK so have 14 days to see if I like it over my note 10 plus :good:
How you finding the display and speakers over your note @mehdi_s82
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Have had no problem with the display outdoor at all. It doesn't match super bright note when sunlight hits it but def as bright as OnePlus 8 and way brighter than Pixel. So whoever says its "dim" doesn't have enough data points to compare. Speakers are more clear and sound louder to me since front firing. Overall, so happy that I have a flagship with flat screen. Had Pixel in the past but they always had hardware issues and crappy display.

Thanks just another question the 10 bit display does it work all the time in both standard and creator mode or is it just in creator mode?
Thanks

Hi guys does the creator mode need to be selected for the 10 bit color or is it walkways active?
Only asking as I normally have it on standered but will change it if so
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sony Xperia 1 native 8bit support & Rec.2020 full colour space not cover.
But sony upscaled 10bit by x1 chip amazing (hardware smooting)
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Question 120hz Green Tint

I wonder if Samsung have managed to fix this, seems a big problem with high refresh rate OLED phones, and even TVs. Would be a deal breaker for me as it makes my 8pro look horrible in low light. V tempted by the s21 Ultra but would have to know if it suffered from it .

I'm in the exact same position: Have a Oneplus 8 Pro right now and don't want to have to deal with black crush, green or red tint at lower brightness levels, posterization, etc. Only phone I know thus far that's pretty good in low light with an amoled screen is the iPhone 12 Pro Max so hopefully Samsung will have solved most of the issues with the S21 Ultra, and if not I'll return it and just get the iPhone 13 Pro Max when Apple releases it later this year.
I'll report back as soon as I get the phone (hopefully on the 29th).

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I'm in the exact same position: Have a Oneplus 8 Pro right now and don't want to have to deal with black crush, green or red tint at lower brightness levels, posterization, etc. Only phone I know thus far that's pretty good in low light with an amoled screen is the iPhone 12 Pro Max so hopefully Samsung will have solved most of the issues with the S21 Ultra, and if not I'll return it and just get the iPhone 13 Pro Max when Apple releases it later this year.
I'll report back as soon as I get the phone (hopefully on the 29th).
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The 8pro has been one of the worst phones I've owned, the green tint and black crush is horrible at low light, I have widevine L3 without ever unlocking the bootloader or modifying it an I get lag and crashes on A11. I'm pretty annoyed at shelling out another 1k so soon after buying it but I can't put up with it anymore, just don't want all the hassle of the green tint stuff again.

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The 8pro has been one of the worst phones I've owned, the green tint and black crush is horrible at low light, I have widevine L3 without ever unlocking the bootloader or modifying it an I get lag and crashes on A11. I'm pretty annoyed at shelling out another 1k so soon after buying it but I can't put up with it anymore, just don't want all the hassle of the green tint stuff again.
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If you want a properly calibrated screen - Apple's iPhones are the only option; just need to make sure you pick a model with a screen made by Samsung => a lot of iPhone users are reporting issues with LG's panels (iphone 12 & 12 Pro).
I also primarily use my phone in bed at night to watch youtube, movies, tv series, etc. and the black crush is unbearable. My Tab S7+ is a bit better, but suffers from Green Tint at lower brightness levels. My friends iPhone 12 Pro Max is basically perfect.

I traded my S20 Plus in for the Samsung Note 20 and honestly, I have never had any of the display issues you mentioned on either phone. From what I have heard from others who have reviewed it already, we should not have any issues with the S21 Ultra either.

My S20U has never had this issue. I'm laying in bed at min brightness and 120hz as we speak.

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The 8pro has been one of the worst phones I've owned, the green tint and black crush is horrible at low light, I have widevine L3 without ever unlocking the bootloader or modifying it an I get lag and crashes on A11. I'm pretty annoyed at shelling out another 1k so soon after buying it but I can't put up with it anymore, just don't want all the hassle of the green tint stuff again.
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That's why I have traded my OnePlus 8 pro for £470 and getting the 21 ultra fingers crossed hopefully ultra won't suffer like 8 pro

still there

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The green tint is still there on the S21 Ultra? Any pics?

Just got my S21 Ultra.
Thoughts on the display:
Great uniformity
No black crush even at the lowest brightness level
Green tint is there at the lowest brightness levels
Can't see a difference between the 8 Pro and S21 Ultra at max brightness

Toss3 said:
Just got my S21 Ultra.
Thoughts on the display:
Great uniformity
No black crush even at the lowest brightness level
Green tint is there at the lowest brightness levels
Can't see a difference between the 8 Pro and S21 Ultra at max brightness
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Damn, so still green tint! Is there much difference between the 8pro and Ultra display? Is there an improvement on the Ultra because of the displays are much the same I may as well cancel my pre order.

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Damn, so still green tint! Is there much difference between the 8pro and Ultra display? Is there an improvement on the Ultra because of the displays are much the same I may as well cancel my pre order.
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The display is flatter and there's no black crush (can see shadow detail even at the lowest brightness setting). HDR also looks much brighter on the S21 Ultra. Other than that there's not a huge difference. My OnePlus 8 Pro also feels smoother in daily use (browsing the internet and scrolling -Exynos 2100 version). The camera seems better on the S21 Ultra.

I've got the S21 Ultra 5G Exynos. No green tint at all. If people have it they are isolated cases, and you should get your phone replaced.

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I've got the S21 Ultra 5G Exynos. No green tint at all. If people have it they are isolated cases, and you should get your phone replaced.
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Do you have another phone with an lcd-screen you could caompare it to? I think most people wouldn't notice the green tint without comparing two devices side-by-side (it's really subtle).

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Do you have another phone with an lcd-screen you could caompare it to? I think most people wouldn't notice the green tint without comparing two devices side-by-side (it's really subtle).
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Yes, I had the s20 ultra yesterday. That also had no green tint. I've tested a number of apps, running on 120hz WQHD. I've run it on the lowest brightness and have also raised it. Tried, Instagram, Camera app, youtube, etc. No green tint at all.

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Yes, I had the s20 ultra yesterday. That also had no green tint. I've tested a number of apps, running on 120hz WQHD. I've run it on the lowest brightness and have also raised it. Tried, Instagram, Camera app, youtube, etc. No green tint at all.
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The S20 Ultra also suffers from green tint so you're comparing two green tinted phones. Not everyone notices it. Only way to prove your phone doesn't suffer from it would be to take a photo next to a phone with an lcd-screen showing the same image on both in low light.

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The S20 Ultra also suffers from green tint so you're comparing two green tinted phones. Not everyone notices it. Only way to prove your phone doesn't suffer from it would be to take a photo next to a phone with an lcd-screen showing the same image on both in low light.
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I've got an Iphone too. Definitely no green tint. And it's not as subtle as you think it is. These videos show it being pretty clear.
Is it possible you are imagining it?
Also it has been resolved with software fixes on the s20 ultra