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Already dented my N5

Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.

vodka7 said:
Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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Strange. The Cruzerlite (which are thin TPU cases, cheap in my opinion) drop test stood up to NUMEROUS drops & the device survived without any sign of damage. Not a scratch or dent.
Is you device white or black? My old Nexus 10 had a defect in the black soft touch coating that looked like a dent, but it was more likely an issue in the molding or application process.

vodka7 said:
Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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Pics?
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Mine is the white version, but the dent is on the top right above the camera, on the black portion, right where the side casing touches the glass. I would have a very hard time photographing this because of where it is on the phone/lighting etc.. ill try when I get home though.

vodka7 said:
Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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a picture speaks a thousand words

I have about 5 or so nicks on the sides where the glass and plastic edge meet on my naked white N5. I agree that the plastic used is pretty brittle but it's not noticeable unless you really look for it.
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Get a sufficient case otherwise you can't really complain...

I have one little mark or nick as well where the plastic case meets the glass on that tiny little lip. My 2 year old got a hold of my phone and dropped it on a metal external hard drive case the day I got it and it landed right on 90 degree edge of the case... I went temporarily insane. It is very small but kind of surprised me I guess. I dropped my galaxy S3 many times and never got more than the little hairline scratches you see in glossy plastic. That soft touch coating seems to have some give to it. It was my fault. My parents gave my kids a new ipad mini and I set my phone on top of it. I was in the other room and heard him say "new tablet". I knew at that moment the mistake I had made...
I have one of those really slim cases on the way which would have prevented it. I typically don't use cases and am usually not bothered by the small marks I get on my phones but because some of those ultra thin cases are so slim now days I am going to try one out. Marking up a brand new phone is a little different than one that's a year+ old...

I too, also have a slight dent under the screen bezel part of mine. I have never dropped mine. Noticed it while it was on the table; that the reflection of the curtain was slightly bent at the one area, instead of being completely straight. Looked closely, and sure enough, there was a dent. It's not noticeable during day-to-day use, but you CAN notice it if looking at the reflection it shows.

The chrome bezel on the nexus 4 was susceptible to dents as well.

A few weeks ago the Nexus 5 flew out of my hands and landed on our concrete driveway. I feared the worst, but only a small dent in the upper left corner of the back panel and some scratching is all that happened. Lucky me, but I still hate it. Never had a single blemish on the Nexus 4.
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The sides of this phone are fine, besides the fact that they collect dust like crazy. The screen, however, is not. Another guy posting on Android Central also reported having a dent, similar to mine. I actually think this dent came with my device. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago, but disregarded it, as I thought it was the screen protector that came with the phone, but I decided to remove it and check again. It IS a part of the screen

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The sides of this phone are fine, besides the fact that they collect dust like crazy. The screen, however, is not. Another guy posting on Android Central also reported having a dent, similar to mine. I actually think this dent came with my device. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago, but disregarded it, as I thought it was the screen protector that came with the phone, but I decided to remove it and check again. It IS a part of the screen
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Normal. That's why most early glass screen protectors were not sticking properly.

bblzd said:
Normal. That's why most early glass screen protectors were not sticking properly.
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Normal? How is a dent on the screen normal? My Nexus 10 does not have this, my old Samsung Vibrant does not have this. Why would a dent on a Nexus 5 be normal?

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Normal? How is a dent on the screen normal? My Nexus 10 does not have this, my old Samsung Vibrant does not have this. Why would a dent on a Nexus 5 be normal?
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I would say it's normal because of the following reasons:
1) it doesn't effect the usage of the device in any way
2) it's barely noticeable even in the "perfect" lighting conditions
3) many have reported the exact same thing in the early tempered glass threads; the only time it has ever come up or been noticed.
So why exactly is it a problem for you? Corners were cut to make this phone at a cheap price I would think that's pretty clear. It's also not the screen itself but around it.

Dented
In my N5 have no dent and any scratch..
I love with my N5

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I would say it's normal because of the following reasons:
1) it doesn't effect the usage of the device in any way
2) it's barely noticeable even the "perfect" lighting conditions
3) many have reported the exact same thing in the early tempered glass threads; the only time it has ever come up or been noticed.
So why exactly is it a problem for you? Corners were cut to make this phone at a cheap price I would think that's pretty clear.
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There's a difference between "corners being cut" to make the device cheaper and really poor quality control. I understand them using a less camera module and a lower capacity battery, and a screen that washes out when tilted, etc, but the numerous issues with the hardware is ridiculous. Dents in screen, poor GPS connectivity, Wi-Fi problems, dust under screen, loose vibration motor, rattling buttons, and so on.
There is no reason for hardware bugs like this. To lower the price, lesser powerful hardware is used, but the low price is no excuse for poor quality. Like some users said, in terms of hardware, this device is like an alpha, and the only way to receive the "perfect" device is to continuously RMA.
We paid for the device, we should not be getting so many faults and issues.

Hobbesfed said:
There's a difference between "corners being cut" to make the device cheaper and really poor quality control. I understand them using a less camera module and a lower capacity battery, and a screen that washes out when tilted, etc, but the numerous issues with the hardware is ridiculous. Dents in screen, poor GPS connectivity, Wi-Fi problems, dust under screen, loose vibration motor, rattling buttons, and so on.
There is no reason for hardware bugs like this. To lower the price, lesser powerful hardware is used, but the low price is no excuse for poor quality. Like some users said, in terms of hardware, this device is like an alpha, and the only way to receive the "perfect" device is to continuously RMA.
We paid for the device, we should not be getting so many faults and issues.
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How is it even a defect? It's not even noticeable. No one would consider it a hardware bug except apparently you. Please explain how this effects the usage of your device in any way.
Poor quality control is EXACTLY how corners are cut. Manufacturing anything has margin of errors and the less margin of error you're willing to release the more phones are "thrown away" and the more money a released device will cost. I'd explain more but I'm sure Wikipedia or a Google search can better explain the finer points of manufacturing and quality control then I can.
You read the specs of the phone and it has everything a $700 phone has but it costs $400. How did you think that was accomplished?

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You read the specs of the phone and it has everything a $700 phone has but it costs $400. How did you think that was accomplished?
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There is a lot of discussion about that price... but Google routinely undercuts the competition when it comes to the nexus line (looking at you, 7)
Looking at the specs of the 5, then looking at comparable phones out ing the market, the only conclusion I can come to is that Google is letting these things go at either zero margin, or (my thought) at a fairly beefy loss.... kicking back cash to LG to cover their losses.
All you need to do is look at the other phones available at the same full retail price... does the 5 seem anywhere close to those? Nope, it blows them all out of the water... laughable in most cases. Now, you can cut corners to lower prices, but you can't cut THAT much.

LeoRex said:
There is a lot of discussion about that price... but Google routinely undercuts the competition when it comes to the nexus line (looking at you, 7)
Looking at the specs of the 5, then looking at comparable phones out ing the market, the only conclusion I can come to is that Google is letting these things go at either zero margin, or (my thought) at a fairly beefy loss.... kicking back cash to LG to cover their losses.
All you need to do is look at the other phones available at the same full retail price... does the 5 seem anywhere close to those? Nope, it blows them all out of the water... laughable in most cases. Now, you can cut corners to lower prices, but you can't cut THAT much.
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The actual cost break down might never be known. One thing is for sure though, LG is not willing to take any loss and whatever Google may have paid them "extra" they will still try and build the phone as cheap as they possibly can.
LG does not consider the Nexus as their flagship phone and will never treat it as such. It's a phone they were contracted to build and they will cut every corner they can. It's just business.

Found a first case of a cracked back side

https://translate.google.com/transl...ny-xperia-z3-ja-z3-compact&edit-text=&act=url (original: http://kiip.ee/arvustus-sony-xperia-z3-ja-z3-compact/ )
One long and "clean" crack. According to the review(er), the crack happened inexplicably; they did some tests with water and dust/sand, but no drop tests.
It makes me wonder if the Z3C has significant overheating issues. It could be that the excessive heat from 4k recording induces a temperature shock to the glass if it is exposed to cold water shortly after.
Looking at the direction of the crack, it's unlikely that it's the result of "pocket flex"

No don't tell me that! Now I feel like I certainly need a case.

wikitiki said:
No don't tell me that! Now I feel like I certainly need a case.
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Since the review doesn't mention anything about an impact to the glass, if it is indeed due to overheating, then a case would likely only increase the risk of cracking.
One possibility is that it happened during 4k video recording, since that's the one activity that makes the phone heat up the most.

But of course, there is also still the possibility that something went wrong during the tempering procedure of the glass back panel of this particular unit. Or maybe the sand test made some micro scratches and caused a weakness? We just can't know for sure.

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No don't tell me that! Now I feel like I certainly need a case.
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That's what I don't understand about 'you people'. Why would you use it without any case or so? It should be more then normal to protect such an expensive device somehow.
An accident is so easily made even if it's not your fault, but why take the risk?
Sent from my C6603

Yeah so avoid 4k unless you really need to record it. It seems like several Z2 owners have been experiencing cracked screens. Some were lucky and able to get theirs replaced under Sony warranty but some others aren't. Found that the warranty reviewers would often blame it on the owner for damaging it. I'm just worried that if this is a common issue, we would have to pay for repairs.

Dsteppa said:
That's what I don't understand about 'you people'. Why would you use it without any case or so? It should be more then normal to protect such an expensive device somehow.
An accident is so easily made even if it's not your fault, but why take the risk?
Sent from my C6603
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While using a case is generally a good idea, it would actually - as I said earlier - increase the risk of cracking if it did indeed happen due to overheating, because a case will make it harder for the heat to dissipate.
And for a phone of which one of its main features is its beautiful design, it's kind of a shame if you must hide that design 24/7 in a case.

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While using a case is generally a good idea, it would - as mentioned in above - only increase the risk of cracking if it did indeed happen due to overheating, because a case will make it harder for the heat to dissipate.
Also, for a phone of which one of its main features is its beautiful design, it is kind of a shame if you have to hide that design 24/7 with a case.
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Yeah, but in a perfect world you never drop your phone and does the screen never crack without a reason.
Of course the feature of a phone is to look nice, but drop it once or twice and you might have a whole lot of headache, just because you refused to use a case.
Sent from my C6603

Dsteppa said:
Yeah, but in a perfect world you never drop your phone and does the screen never crack without a reason.
Of course the feature of a phone is to look nice, but drop it once or twice and you might have a whole lot of headache, just because you refused to use a case.
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Again, there's no mention of a drop in the review; it cracked inexplicable as the review states. Cracks from drops or impacts also usually look a lot messier.

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Again, there's no mention of a drop in the review; it cracked inexplicable as the review states. Cracks from drops or impacts also usually look a lot messier.
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Yeah I know there isn't I read it, but it's not only about the review. There is a saying that goes: Better safe then sorry.
Nowadays people use their phone for a lot more things then just calling/texting people, you can lose so many valuable files when your phone breaks, so why take that risk?

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Yeah I know there isn't I read it, but it's not only about the review. There is a saying that goes: Better safe then sorry.
Nowadays people use their phone for a lot more things then just calling/texting people, you can lose so many valuable files when your phone breaks, so why take that risk?
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Right. Well then it would be best to use one of these cases with holes in them, for not increasing the risk of cracking from heat.
I suppose that the good thing about a glass back is that, unless it is very wet, it actually "sticks" to your skin much more than any matte plastic back, so the risk of dropping is lower which compensates for its fragility. I tested this by holding my phone (xperia acro s with a soft-touch plastic back) backwards. When I put the phone on my hand with the display facing down, I can hold my hand in a much steeper angle and the phone will only start to slide off very slowly. But if I put the phone on my hand with the plastic back facing down, it will very quickly slide off at a 45 degree angle.

What is the Z3C back made from?

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What is the Z3C back made from?
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Glass, I think this crack confirms that. There's no certainty about which brand the glass is from though. Some say Dragontrail, others say Gorilla Glass 3. The official product page just mentions "tempered glass"

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Glass, I think this crack confirms that. There's no certainty about which brand the glass is from though. Some say Dragontrail, others say Gorilla Glass 3. The official product page just mentions "tempered glass"
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Since the Xperia Z, people are wondering what kind of glass it is, Sony never said what it is and just referred to it as tempered glass.

Its probably just regular ass glass haha

maybe put THIS on and the risk would be greatly reduced?

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maybe put THIS on and the risk would be greatly reduced?
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The rhino shield is a perfect impact protection but I doubt it will protect the glass when the temperature chances too quickly.
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maybe put THIS on and the risk would be greatly reduced?
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Well, went through the reviews on Amazon and found -though generally good- somewhat mixed feedback, especially when it comes down to durability. My current Xperia M is equipped with a regular screen protector foil and it did not need any replacement since about a year. But what really keeps me off is the price of some 25$ (front) or 29$ (front and back) Rhino is calling, so one can get 10+ regular foils for that.
Anyhow, my new Z3C (hope it'll be shipped sooner ) will immediatly be foiled and secured by a case.

I hate cases, I have never had one I liked, so I end up using my phones without a case. I'll do the same with the Z1C.

There is now also a first case of screen shatter by accidental drop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIFgcCoWEZs
Supposedly it fell into concrete from around pocket height.
It's also notable how there are actually chunks out of the plastic frame, rather than just scuffs.
Update: the surface texture of the concrete was "a little rough" according to the person who dropped it.

Glass cracking by itself

I have gathered up reports of the glass cracking by itself, and have come up with 6 reports already. Very concerning considering the availability of the phone. If you have a similar problem happening to you, please do post here, and if possible, please fill out this survey.
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Currently at 10 reports.
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55904325&postcount=7
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55861318&postcount=14 / http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55861158&postcount=34
3/4. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...cked-shattered-on-it-s-own/m-p/844031#U844031 (2 posts in this)
5/6. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Cracked-screen/m-p/843849#U843849 (2 posts in this)
7. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Cracked-screen/m-p/843849#U843849
8. http://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/2iv7sq/z3c_back_glass_cracked_eta_on_replacement_parts/
9. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Probable-PRODUCTION-FAULT-glass-broke-from-2cm-drop-add-your/m-p/846827/highlight/true#M525
10. http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3-Compact/Probable-PRODUCTION-FAULT-glass-broke-from-2cm-drop-add-your/m-p/849689/highlight/true#M636

Lets say they sold 1000 phones so far, I would guess more but lets be very conservative. 6 "cracking by itself" in 1000 phones = .6% chance
I think we should post on this over and over since it is such a huge chance of happening.

Two of those are also the same person.

The screen is ridiculous flimsy. Putting pressure on the screen easily distorts the display. Sony went cheap with the glass. Don't sit on it, that's for sure.

maven1975 said:
The screen is ridiculous flimsy. Putting pressure on the screen easily distorts the display. Sony went cheap with the glass. Don't sit on it, that's for sure.
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Lulz. Don't forcible bend you're phone and don't sit on it. Grade A advice.
Also, if you're Z3C is that flimsy, return it, cause mine certainly isn't that flimsy.

Crewville96 said:
Lulz. Don't forcible bend you're phone and don't sit on it. Grade A advice.
Also, if you're Z3C is that flimsy, return it, cause mine certainly isn't that flimsy.
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Mine is solid too. No flex or distortion at all. And I would say 0.6% is a bit high. Their total sales are probably greater than 1000 by now. Probably closer to 1500 so that's more like .03 - .04%

But not all the 1500 user complain on XDA or the web...

Crewville96 said:
Lulz. Don't forcible bend you're phone and don't sit on it. Grade A advice.
Also, if you're Z3C is that flimsy, return it, cause mine certainly isn't that flimsy.
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Who said anything about bending?
There are YouTube videos showing the issues with the screen/glass.
I am receiving a second Z3C in the office Friday. I will check it report back.
As for sitting on a phone, this should not be an issue. Everyone is acting as if this was never acceptable practice. I understand that things have changed and phones are getting thinner. However, would you not think a portable compact phone should be purchased for pocketability? I think it's outrageous people are so quick to dismiss and write off this simple and basic concept. And for what? For the sake of being a fan of a company that only wants your money? Apple, Sony, Samsung... They don't give a crap about the consumer.

Pocketability, to me, has never meant you can put a glass phone in your rear pocket.

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Who said anything about bending?
There are YouTube videos showing the issues with the screen/glass.
I am receiving a second Z3C in the office Friday. I will check it report back.
As for sitting on a phone, this should not be an issue. Everyone is acting as if this was never acceptable practice. I understand that things have changed and phones are getting thinner. However, would you not think a portable compact phone should be purchased for pocketability? I think it's outrageous people are so quick to dismiss and write off this simple and basic concept. And for what? For the sake of being a fan of a company that only wants your money? Apple, Sony, Samsung... They don't give a crap about the consumer.
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WHY would you put your phone in your rear pocket and sit on it? It's bad for your back and CERTAINLY bad for any thin piece of technology with glass on it!
Not to mention rear pockets are easy targets for pick pockets...

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WHY would you put your phone in your rear pocket and sit on it? It's bad for your back and CERTAINLY bad for any thin piece of technology with glass on it!
Not to mention rear pockets are easy targets for pick pockets...
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I'm not concerned about pick pockets. If they want my phone, the could take it from my hands just as easily. So, I guess we are not to put our wallets in our rear pocket either?
I don't sit on it for long periods of time. More time than not, it is out of my pocket while seated. The issue I have is with these excuses for manufactures. I'm not starting a lawsuit or demanding a refund. I'm simply just annoyed by the arrogance displayed. Pointing the finger at consumers for using said devices the way they have been used for years.
I can see the phablet argument. Those devices should not be on your pockets. (brief periods of time) But seriously, a compact phone that risks damage by pocket? That's hardly looking at the real audience your catering too.

Its not damage by pocket. Its damage by weight and force.
Sent from my Nexus 5

My rear glass cracked by itself. I have had my phone since launch (2 weeks now), and used it with care. There was not a single (micro-) scratch on it (no protection), never dropped or otherwise misused. So as to the reports they are scratchy - imho that's not true.
I put the phone on my desk, picked it up 30 minutes later, and noticed the rear glass was cracked. Picture attached. As you can see this is not the kind of cracking you get from dropping, smashing, or putting tension on it. The crack is beneath the surface - I can't feel it. The phone is on it's way back to the shop now, and I'll hope it will be a warranty thing.
Also, on a major Dutch tech-forum there are several stories about cracking glass (3 or 4 now, did't keep count).
It's a real thing! :crying:

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Then they'd better shut down their smartphone department considering Apple sold 10 million units on the first weekend and the Z3C got really good previews :cyclops:

Please stop this discussion on back pockets, whether or not that pocket is suitable for phones is not for discussion here. All the reports I posted said front pockets, and that is concerning.

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My rear glass cracked by itself. I have had my phone since launch (2 weeks now), and used it with care. There was not a single (micro-) scratch on it (no protection), never dropped or otherwise misused. So as to the reports they are scratchy - imho that's not true.
I put the phone on my desk, picked it up 30 minutes later, and noticed the rear glass was cracked. Picture attached. As you can see this is not the kind of cracking you get from dropping, smashing, or putting tension on it. The crack is beneath the surface - I can't feel it. The phone is on it's way back to the shop now, and I'll hope it will be a warranty thing.
Also, on a major Dutch tech-forum there are several stories about cracking glass (3 or 4 now, did't keep count).
It's a real thing! :crying:
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So I take it that the phone wasn't cracked before putting on the table? Did you something on the phone before that could have caused it to heat up?

I've put together a Google forms survey to collect some objective breakage data:
Sony Xperia Z3 / Z3 Compact - Glass Survey
Please take some time to complete the survey whether you've experienced a breakage or not, it's important to have a complete set of data. You will be able to view the survey results after submitting the form.

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So I take it that the phone wasn't cracked before putting on the table? Did you something on the phone before that could have caused it to heat up?
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No, I'm quite sure it wasn't. As far as I know it was idle, just being stand-by .

"spontaneous crack"
like all the screen cracks ive seen before. Most of the time the user actually cracked it (fall, sit on it, etc.. but mostly falls where "oh im lucky nothing broke") and with some more use the crack propagated. yeah with plastic or metal it woulnt propagate tho.

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"spontaneous crack"
like all the screen cracks ive seen before. Most of the time the user actually cracked it (fall, sit on it, etc.. but mostly falls where "oh im lucky nothing broke") and with some more use the crack propagated. yeah with plastic or metal it woulnt propagate tho.
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Yeah, until someone is watching at the exact moment their phone spontaneously cracks, I'm not believing it. The way some people talk about the Z3C is like if you breathe on it too hard it will shatter instantaneously. My wife dropped her's from chest height onto hardwood floor with no case, screen protector, nothing. Not a scratch. Yet other people, drop it from a foot up, or having it leaning an it just tips over, and breaks... seems odd. Not calling these people liars, just that there must be more to it than that. Probably something along the lines of what bilboa1 said.

Replacement back for Mix?

Hi All,
Has anyone been able to track down somewhere that is selling a replacement back for the Mix? Mine is scratched quite heavily (likely from using a fairly tight sleeve) and I would really like to replace it....Or for any poor soul out there who has damaged their Mix and would like to sell the back. The irony is the sides of the phone are pristine and not a scratch, not so much on the back.
Thanks in advance

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Hi All,
Has anyone been able to track down somewhere that is selling a replacement back for the Mix? Mine is scratched quite heavily (likely from using a fairly tight sleeve) and I would really like to replace it....Or for any poor soul out there who has damaged their Mix and would like to sell the back. The irony is the sides of the phone are pristine and not a scratch, not so much on the back.
Thanks in advance
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And here's me thinking it was virtually impossible to scratch.

jazz452 said:
And here's me thinking it was virtually impossible to scratch.
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You are wrong.It is made in China.Enough said.Looks good but who cares about quailty.It is NOT CERAMIC but made to looks like it.
I had it and my suggestion is save money for Galaxy S8+ or something more valuable.

I had to take the pictures with my Galaxy tablet so not the best quality but you get the picture. This is with normal day to day use as well, nothing extreme. I even had the Best Buy film on the back for a few months but got tired of the sharp edges from the film every time i unlocked with the finger print sensor. I am wondering if the chemicals from the glue combined with peeling of the film stripped some of the finish somehow as this is supposed to be so scratch resistant. Maybe just one with a faulty finish.

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I had to take the pictures with my Galaxy tablet so not the best quality but you get the picture. This is with normal day to day use as well, nothing extreme. I even had the Best Buy film on the back for a few months but got tired of the sharp edges from the film every time i unlocked with the finger print sensor. I am wondering if the chemicals from the glue combined with peeling of the film stripped some of the finish somehow as this is supposed to be so scratch resistant. Maybe just one with a faulty finish.
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So the YouTube video is fake or is it your phone, it's been tested against scratches with a hardness of 7, second to none, don't get it. Not one other person complaining I dropped mine when it slipped off a table on it's own while i was in another room,, expecting the worse but not even a mark.

jazz452 said:
So the YouTube video is fake or is it your phone, it's been tested against scratches with a hardness of 7, second to none, don't get it. Not one other person complaining I dropped mine when it slipped off a table on it's own while i was in another room,, expecting the worse but not even a mark.
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Sorry, I am not sure what your point is. I am certainly not making it up as per the pictures. I was only asking if anyone had seen the replacement backs anywhere. I absolutely love his phone but have been disappointed how much is has scratched on the back, not questioning the online videos etc.
By the way, what was the purpose of your post? If you have nothing to contribute to solving the question at hand why say anything?

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Sorry, I am not sure what your point is. I am certainly not making it up as per the pictures. I was only asking if anyone had seen the replacement backs anywhere. I absolutely love his phone but have been disappointed how much is has scratched on the back, not questioning the online videos etc.
By the way, what was the purpose of your post? If you have nothing to contribute to solving the question at hand why say anything?
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Suppose my point was because of shortage of the ceramic maybe they sent some out with different materials.

Mine is just fine after a while of use, both in and out of a protective case, side note mine also doesn't have the "cottage" cheese looking blemishes yours seems to have in the pictures. Its possible to have received a "repaired" one instead of a legit one ... especially if it came from a reseller. There are mentions of this on the xiaomi reddit and other places. its extremely scratch resistant, as much so as any Samsung or other device out there that I have dealt with [and I do service work on phones so I have seen plenty of damaged devices - HUGE number of sub standard Samsung's btw - for the value guy ]
Good luck on finding a part supplier, you MAY find one on Aliexpress ... but there more than likely not going to be genuine parts. Vopmart.com

Thanks to everyone for their feedback. I hope I didnt get a refurb etc, that would suck.

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Thanks to everyone for their feedback. I hope I didnt get a refurb etc, that would suck.
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Had a look about couldn't see any anywhere, don't know what the solution is, hope you come up with something.

Nicolfa said:
Mine is just fine after a while of use, both in and out of a protective case, side note mine also doesn't have the "cottage" cheese looking blemishes yours seems to have in the pictures.
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I think that is a reflection of the popcorn finish from the roof in my bedroom

imapfsr said:
I think that is a reflection of the popcorn finish from the roof in my bedroom
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Could you not sell your house buy another and take fresh picture to rule that out

I'm on it! ?

Lol is possible . I also hope you didn't get a refurbished​ one.

jazz452 said:
Suppose my point was because of shortage of the ceramic maybe they sent some out with different materials.
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It's not the point of this discussion but I also have tiny scratches beside the lenses​ and fingerprint...
It's not unscratchable...

Nothing is unscratchable :_)

screen protector in a bottle

I just did a video review of liquid screen protectors.

No you didn't. A review would have actually used the product and presented some sort of conclusion on it's value or utility.
I'm not a physicist, but I have my doubts that this kind of product can provide any impact protection. Possibly it can help protect the glass from scratches as a sacrificial layer, but in order to provide long-term benefits there needs to be a way to remove and reapply the coating when scratches or scuffs occur, and I see nothing to explain how this can be done.

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No you didn't. A review would have actually used the product and presented some sort of conclusion on it's value or utility.
I'm not a physicist, but I have my doubts that this kind of product can provide any impact protection. Possibly it can help protect the glass from scratches as a sacrificial layer, but in order to provide long-term benefits there needs to be a way to remove and reapply the coating when scratches or scuffs occur, and I see nothing to explain how this can be done.
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My thoughts exactly. This stuff actually function like a ceramic coating that's used in vehicle paint (I'm a pro detailer). That's exactly what we call those coatings, "a sacrificial layer." Vehicle speaking, a rock could hit the paint coating and not damage the paint but the impact could still leave a dent or slight impression in the metal. This screen coating will probably be good to protect against minor scratching but the right impact could still break the screen.
It's tough it here. We spend all these hard earned dollars (it whatever for various countries) for the devices and expect superior protecting for them. I just don't think it exists yet.
Here's to being careful. Cheers!
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Howard the Magic Tech Guy?!? Well he sure did a neat vanishing trick from this thread lol
Sorry, I really should not laugh but come on!

chippyuk said:
Howard the Magic Tech Guy?!? Well he sure did a neat vanishing trick from this thread lol
Sorry, I really should not laugh but come on!
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I'm back... Firstly, I did put it on my old note 4 and it did not work at all.. But I no longer have that note 4... Like all of us we are all looking for the perfect screen protector and as I said in my review I didn't know if it worked. Sorry guys, not I don't have the resources to scratch test the phone at a 1000 per pop.
But I witnessed 1000s of people having this type of liquid on their phones at $30 a go.. My objective was at least to let potential customers do more research.. And as I mentioned on other forums the claims are a complete mixed bag some say they have fine scratches some don't even on amazon ... I just don't know... Maybe one of you can do a scientific scratch test.

Is it bird poo stain proof?
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Reminds me of products like spray on hair or spray on grip tape for skateboards. Lol

shouren04 said:
Reminds me of products like spray on hair or spray on grip tape for skateboards. Lol
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I remember that spray on grip tape... It sucked wasn't worth the can it was in:good::good::good:
I have wondered what people think of these chemical type liquid applications The cricket store here tries to get me to 40$ a pop and guaranties my screen not to break or they will replace it....
Im like yea noooo....
Im sure it will still break and Im sure when the time comes you will hassle me on whatever guaranty you have made

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I'm back... Firstly, I did put it on my old note 4 and it did not work at all.. But I no longer have that note 4... Like all of us we are all looking for the perfect screen protector and as I said in my review I didn't know if it worked. Sorry guys, not I don't have the resources to scratch test the phone at a 1000 per pop.
But I witnessed 1000s of people having this type of liquid on their phones at $30 a go.. My objective was at least to let potential customers do more research.. And as I mentioned on other forums the claims are a complete mixed bag some say they have fine scratches some don't even on amazon ... I just don't know... Maybe one of you can do a scientific scratch test.
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Not on a nearly 300$ plus screen no scratch tests for me

TheMadScientist said:
I remember that spray on grip tape... It sucked wasn't worth the can it was in:good::good::good:
I have wondered what people think of these chemical type liquid applications The cricket store here tries to get me to 40$ a pop and guaranties my screen not to break or they will replace it....
Im like yea noooo....
Im sure it will still break and Im sure when the time comes you will hassle me on whatever guaranty you have made
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Yup I hear ya, I rather go with a cheap plain ol PET screen protector anyday over gimmics like this one posted. What a joke. Actually that's what I'm using on my Note 8, no fancy glass screen protector due to the curved screen & case compatibility.