Hi everyone, first time poster, though I have used the forums for a while. Apologies if this isn't the place for this question, but I couldn't find a better spot. I rooted my first-generation Fire (remember those?) a while ago and installed CM10 to get a more up-to-date version of Android than what came with the Fire, but the hardware is a little too old to run it well (just starting the Kindle book app can take close to a minute). I want to get the newest Fire 7 and put CM on it, and I was wondering how it compares with other "budget" tablets currently available, such as the Nexus 7, Zenpad S 8.0, or Galaxy Tab. Does it run comparably well, or is it really "bogged down"?
I didn't have much time with it hands-on, but I rooted and installed custom ROMs on a couple of them and they worked fairly well, no annoying stutters or lag. I gave one to my brother and he says it's working really well, himself having previously owned a 1st-gen Fire. If you still would like to squeeze something out of that one, I'd recommend going with Hashcode's AOSP 4.3 ROM, it always seemed much smoother to me than CM ROMs for that device.
Edit: Here's a link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2377629
hullflyer said:
Hi everyone, first time poster, though I have used the forums for a while. Apologies if this isn't the place for this question, but I couldn't find a better spot. I rooted my first-generation Fire (remember those?) a while ago and installed CM10 to get a more up-to-date version of Android than what came with the Fire, but the hardware is a little too old to run it well (just starting the Kindle book app can take close to a minute). I want to get the newest Fire 7 and put CM on it, and I was wondering how it compares with other "budget" tablets currently available, such as the Nexus 7, Zenpad S 8.0, or Galaxy Tab. Does it run comparably well, or is it really "bogged down"?
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It does the job, it's been quite fun to mess around with if they were the same price I'd go with the Nexus 7 despite the lack of sd but given it was less than a third of the price I could get an N7 for it's a bargain.
Galaxy tabs do feel bogged down to me, feel sluggish whenever I use my parents but suspect screen is noticeably better on those and the zenpad which I've never seen anywhere.
Thanks so much for the advice, both of you. I got a new Fire, put CM 12.1 on it (thanks to these forums, I knew to check the version before letting it on the wifi, and was able to prevent it from updating to 5.1.1) , and it is running great. I think I already tried Hashcode's AOSP 4.3, Duchman, and wasn't able to use it well (same issue - incredible slowness), but I might take another crack at it now that I have the new Fire.
I am curious. I assumed lollipop was going to be the last one I would see, since the phone is over 2 years old. I love Android 6.0.2 now. I am curious how long I might expect to keep getting updates on the phone? I cannot find any "end of life" lists for the S5 mini so I am unsure.
Also, what would a worthy successor to the S5 mini be to be more up to date?
Morthawt said:
I am curious. I assumed lollipop was going to be the last one I would see, since the phone is over 2 years old. I love Android 6.0.2 now. I am curious how long I might expect to keep getting updates on the phone? I cannot find any "end of life" lists for the S5 mini so I am unsure.
Also, what would a worthy successor to the S5 mini be to be more up to date?
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Depending on the range of the smartphone, the manufacturers give support of about 2 years, after that they are totally forgotten (except samsung, they forget the mid-range smartphones at 4 months LOL)
To tell you the truth, we s5 mini users, we are very lucky that samsung has remembered us, almost never happens
jimmy999x said:
Depending on the range of the smartphone, the manufacturers give support of about 2 years, after that they are totally forgotten (except samsung, they forget the mid-range smartphones at 4 months LOL)
To tell you the truth, we s5 mini users, we are very lucky that samsung has remembered us, almost never happens
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Thanks. I thought it was weird when I saw an update come up for a whole new OS... I love my S5 mini again, although I am looking for an upgrade to save for that's similar size but better than what I have in the S5 mini. Closest I can figure is A3 2017 but not sure.
For now, till I get more info I will enjoy my renewed S5 mini with, now, epic battery life in comparison.
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Thanks. I thought it was weird when I saw an update come up for a whole new OS... I love my S5 mini again, although I am looking for an upgrade to save for that's similar size but better than what I have in the S5 mini. Closest I can figure is A3 2017 but not sure.
For now, till I get more info I will enjoy my renewed S5 mini with, now, epic battery life in comparison.
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Doze works very well in the s5 mini, is very good no doubt, personally I recommend using some custom rom, do not have samsung applications and are extremely fast, also have new versions of android (7.1.1 in this case) Of course they are in beta and contain bugs, but they are still very good
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Doze works very well in the s5 mini, is very good no doubt, personally I recommend using some custom rom, do not have samsung applications and are extremely fast, also have new versions of android (7.1.1 in this case) Of course they are in beta and contain bugs, but they are still very good
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Well a while back I tried to get a standard rom that was not from DBT (my handset is german, from ebay and it was cheaper) but it would not boot up. So I had to re-flash stock DBT firmware to get it to work. I remember trying Cyanogen mod on my old S4 mini but the compass did not work and a few other things. I cannot use a rom if basic phone features don't work. But with my experience of trying a different rom on my S5 mini, I bet custom roms would not work. I did get it rooted a couple times though although now I stick with unrooted so more standard apps work.
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Well a while back I tried to get a standard rom that was not from DBT (my handset is german, from ebay and it was cheaper) but it would not boot up. So I had to re-flash stock DBT firmware to get it to work. I remember trying Cyanogen mod on my old S4 mini but the compass did not work and a few other things. I cannot use a rom if basic phone features don't work. But with my experience of trying a different rom on my S5 mini, I bet custom roms would not work. I did get it rooted a couple times though although now I stick with unrooted so more standard apps work.
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How strange, it is normal that the cyanogenmod build does not work well at first, since it is a progressive development, even let me guess, you have the variant g800h?
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How strange, it is normal that the cyanogenmod build does not work well at first, since it is a progressive development, even let me guess, you have the variant g800h?
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F I believe.
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F I believe.
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That is very strange, since the custom rom of this forum work very well for the variants F / M / Y, since they are the same device but dedicated to different markets (M in my case since I am in South America), The problem lies in the H variant, since it assembles a totally different processor and it is difficult to compile some custom rom for that variant, you should try some, I personally recommend this rom, very very good, you still have to polish one or another detail, But can be used daily
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5-mini/development/rom-aicp-12-1-nougat-t3565009
And if you are one of those who like to customize your android to the fullest, I recommend this rom
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5-mini/development/rom-resurrection-remix-n-5-8-2-t3562523
Both are based on the latest version of android, greetings
jimmy999x said:
That is very strange, since the custom rom of this forum work very well for the variants F / M / Y, since they are the same device but dedicated to different markets (M in my case since I am in South America), The problem lies in the H variant, since it assembles a totally different processor and it is difficult to compile some custom rom for that variant, you should try some, I personally recommend this rom, very very good, you still have to polish one or another detail, But can be used daily
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5-mini/development/rom-aicp-12-1-nougat-t3565009
And if you are one of those who like to customize your android to the fullest, I recommend this rom
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5-mini/development/rom-resurrection-remix-n-5-8-2-t3562523
Both are based on the latest version of android, greetings
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Thanks. I have bookmarked it. Although it seems every rom I have seen has issues for some reason. Whether in my experience with Cyanogen where the compass stops working and something else which I care about, or that one and tethering and hotspot etc. I just have been kind of burned from the excitement of my first custom rom failing me on the feature front and seeing big known issues with other custom ones I have seen. Not to mention I would want to avoid having some apps refuse to work like my banking app, google apps or Android Pay etc. But I have bookmarked it though in case because it seems cyanogen mod's site has gone down, which is not a good sign and any way they never supported S5 mini which was depressing. Are there any roms that are feature-perfect with no show stoppers on the S5 mini?
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Thanks. I have bookmarked it. Although it seems every rom I have seen has issues for some reason. Whether in my experience with Cyanogen where the compass stops working and something else which I care about, or that one and tethering and hotspot etc. I just have been kind of burned from the excitement of my first custom rom failing me on the feature front and seeing big known issues with other custom ones I have seen. Not to mention I would want to avoid having some apps refuse to work like my banking app, google apps or Android Pay etc. But I have bookmarked it though in case because it seems cyanogen mod's site has gone down, which is not a good sign and any way they never supported S5 mini which was depressing. Are there any roms that are feature-perfect with no show stoppers on the S5 mini?
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Cyanogen mod died, now called lineage os, is basically the same, the s5 mini, does not have official support by cyanogen (lineage os), but fortunately in this forum we have developers who take the trouble to create custom roms for We, those 2 roms that I left in the links are extremely functional, maybe one or the other does not work, but what if
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Cyanogen mod died, now called lineage os, is basically the same, the s5 mini, does not have official support by cyanogen (lineage os), but fortunately in this forum we have developers who take the trouble to create custom roms for We, those 2 roms that I left in the links are extremely functional, maybe one or the other does not work, but what if
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If I was unable to use a different country code or what ever (Like mine is DBT) firmware for the same actual legit firmware for my S5 mini, doesn't that mean a third party rom would equally fail to boot as well?
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If I was unable to use a different country code or what ever (Like mine is DBT) firmware for the same actual legit firmware for my S5 mini, doesn't that mean a third party rom would equally fail to boot as well?
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I do not understand exactly what you mean, but if the question is, if custom roms may or may not work in one country or another, as far as I know, they would have to work without any problem, as long as the bootloader is unlocked , A common problem is the loss of line, ie the device can not communicate with the operator, therefore no calls or sms, but that is solved using odin and flashing the baseband (there is also a post In this forum on that)
Firmware has various ones you can get based on the carrier or country or what ever. My phone needs me to download the DBT firmware. I tried choosing one someone recommended which was also a stock genuine rom for my phone but not DBT, it was one that they said was as close to raw Android possible. I flashed it and it would not boot. They gave me reasons and all kinds of complex more indepth things I would have to do all kinds of hacky piecemeal techniques to get the other rom to work. I was not interested, using odin, selecting a file and waiting is nerve racking enough for me without having to go 3 levels more complex than that. So the only thing I could do was flash the DBT version back on the phone and it worked again.
DBT is a very clean firmware in regard to branding so no need to switch to anything else, it has only 3 apps which can be uninstalled without rooting.
As for the updates I believe that Marshmallow is the final official update we're getting, there could be a couple security patch updates though. Like many users I was pleasantly surprised that we're getting 6.0.1 considering that we're talking about a 3 year old midrange Samsung which in smartphone years is a long time.
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DBT is a very clean firmware in regard to branding so no need to switch to anything else, it has only 3 apps which can be uninstalled without rooting.
As for the updates I believe that Marshmallow is the final official update we're getting, there could be a couple security patch updates though. Like many users I was pleasantly surprised that we're getting 6.0.1 considering that we're talking about a 3 year old midrange Samsung which in smartphone years is a long time.
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Thanks.
I certainly was shocked when I saw 6.0.1 or Marshmallow or what ever it said on the screenshot. Jaw dropped with excitement.
I don't know how guys can use Samsung's BS. KitKat, Lolipop or Marshmallow they all run poorly on my mini, and there's a lot of annoying slowdowns even when just scrolling twitter.
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I don't know how guys can use Samsung's BS. KitKat, Lolipop or Marshmallow they all run poorly on my mini, and there's a lot of annoying slowdowns even when just scrolling twitter.
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I highly recommend you factory reset your device. Prior to this Marshmallow update my phone was a constipated donkey. Just slow and sluggish as hell even doing the most basic of things. I got the Marshmallow update and it did feel a lot better. I factory reset and put my crucial apps back on and my phone is perfect again.
I would really like to see video showing how quick it is. Because I believe it will still be slower than Slim6.
And when scrolling is slow I get triggered as f.
inejco said:
I would really like to see video showing how quick it is. Because I believe it will still be slower than Slim6.
And when scrolling is slow I get triggered as f.
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I have no idea what Slim6 is. What I do know is I was getting ready to throw my phone in the trash and save up for a new phone, till I got the Marshmallow update. Now my phone feels like a brand spanking new upgrade after the crap experience I have been having. Snappy, responsive, everything is working well. Perfect. Pshhh not to mention idle battery life has vastly improved.
It's custom rom for F variant of S5 mini. Battery was never a problem for me on marshmallow from Samsung though.
In the Samsung+ or Samsung Memebers app, shown the notice posted today mentions many of the galaxy devices with the expected launch timeframes. And one of list was included the Galaxy J3 2017.
Looks like we're getting 2 OS Updates.
Here the link of the article : www.sammobile.com/2018/12/24/samsung-android-pie-update-roadmap
The update is expected in September 2019. It may be late but hey! J3 users get the taste of Android Pie 9.0.
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In the Samsung+ or Samsung Memebers app, shown the notice posted today mentions many of the galaxy devices with the expected launch timeframes. And one of list was included the Galaxy J3 2017.
Looks like we're getting 2 OS Updates.
Here the link of the article : www.sammobile.com/2018/12/24/samsung-android-pie-update-roadmap
The update is expected in September 2019. It may be late but hey! J3 users get the taste of Android Pie 9.0.
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That's surprising for a budget device. Then again I was surprised when my Tab A 2015 got 2 upgrades.
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I'm on J327p boost mobile. No Oreo ota so far
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Maybe never, carriers sometimes can't be bothered.
yes, it's an official announcement, i've got the notices through samsung members app. btw, i'm using samsung j3 pro (2017) j330g.
I was supprised to get oreo, now I'm getting P!?
Although I might have a new phone by next year.
LeeTG3 said:
I was supprised to get oreo, now I'm getting P!?
Although I might have a new phone by next year.
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Keep it i would if getting P ......i miss compact phones.
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Keep it i would if getting P ......i miss compact phones.
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It is a good phone but its only been a year and a half since I got it and the battery is lasting shorter amounts of time and it crashes randomly when I open games
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It is a good phone but its only been a year and a half since I got it and the battery is lasting shorter amounts of time and it crashes randomly when I open games
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You tried a factory reset?.....Mines 2 yrs old battery is still %100, do you use the Optimiser daily? also did you upgrade Oreo if so? do it fresh factory.
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You tried a factory reset?.....Mines 2 yrs old battery is still %100, do you use the Optimiser daily? also did you upgrade Oreo if so? do it fresh factory.
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I think its because I've dropped it or maybe water damage because it does'nt seem like a software issue and it still happens after trying those. And yes I do run the optimiser daily and I'm on oreo
I got upgrade to 9.0 two days ago for 330F, upgrading fails for 3 times. Battery above 30%, no low-memory notification.
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I got upgrade to 9.0 two days ago for 330F, upgrading fails for 3 times. Battery above 30%, no low-memory notification.
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Flash via odin.I recommend rooting and installing NFS-Injector and Universal GMS Doze because this device is incapable of Stock Pie.
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this device is incapable of Stock Pie.
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Thanks, I will root on next time. Upgrade worked on 4th try with 5 GB free on internal storage and 60% battery.
My wife has had her S4A for years now and she really, really clings to it. But as time moves on, it has developed mechanical issues, display glitches and the KitKat release it carries has become problem-ridden, too. Recently I managed to obtain a barely used demo unit for a few bucks and decided to look how far it can catch up to the present software-wise before giving it to her.
Disappointment #1: Unfortunately, no pie ROM whatsoever, it seems.
Disappointment #2: I found out that apparently there are LOS releases of at least Oreo for the S4 active and they look really promising... but they keep lacking support for the camera for almost a year now. Black pictures: not an option for her.
So I wonder, is Android 7.1 really the end of the road for the S4 Active or does anyone here know about ROMs in the making that might actually help carrying the last semi-rugged and waterproof Samsung phone that features both exchangeable battery and a QI option along for some more time?
I'd really like to hear anything that might give hope
P.S.: for the time being I decided to go with the RR 7.1 ROM which seems to do quite well... for its age.
This is my main phone now and it's so sad that literally Nougat is the end of the road for such amazing device, i recommend you LOS 7.1.2 on the dev thread there's an user that is been updating the sources of the rom, i hope it helps.. btw i'm switching to a note 5 soon, my active is barely working.
Hi, I'm apoxo, I'm a Note 9 User and have been really happy with my new Note 9, I'm a big fan of the Note series, hence why i'm on a Note 9, Recently, i've encountered alot of bugs with it. Here's the story.
(im gonna try to make it as organized as possible, just an fyi)
THE ENCOUNTER
It began somewhere around when One UI was beginning to be flashable on Note 9's. I have previously attempted flashing, but almost broke my phone due to it getting stuck in the blue screen where its awaiting files to be flashed, but i fixed it by letting it drain. Anyway, I decided to try again, and it actually worked! Despite me getting a bit angry at the bloatware, I was happy with One UI; and frequently switched back and forth between Stock Sprint Android 8.1.0, to T-Mobile Android 9. The first time i switched, It got me confused, All messages that were sent to me had some sort of ID on them, An example message would be:
"You still up for the movie tonight? ~M9xmKAtUm" and "How's the wedding going? ~AxL92mLsTRgZ"
the bug was only really doing stuff before i restarted, Then i figured it was no biggie, So i forgot about it later on. Then once i flashed to 8.1.0, It did the same thing, but just stopped randomly. Which I thought was weird, but come on. Everything is weird.
THE ANNOYANCE
About the 3rd time i flashed to Android 9, it really stuck for a long time. Then i was fed up, I did random settings on and off, those things. Nothing, about 2 weeks later; It stopped. Yay! Its all over now! You can l- Nope, i'm just getting started!
MAJOR DAMAGE ~ PHIL SWIFT
Once One UI i was finally out, I was ecstatic! I immediately went to my computer, and flashed to Stock Sprint Android 8.1.0. Then i did some setting up, and then. I updated to the Unlocked One UI. (I'm on an unlocked phone mind you. Check bottom to see specs and stuff.) and then it stuck. It began to cause MAJOR DAMAGE ~ Phil Swift.
No seriously it did, It would never go away. Turning off Wifi-Calling? Nope, Turning on Wifi-Calling? Nope, Factory Resetting? Nope. Switching Messaging apps? Nope. Everything I tried didn't work, and eventually i gave up. Then today, i decided it was just too annoying, and that i should get rid of it. And so here i am, typing this worded message. MMS Messages aren't affected, which is just a confusion cherry on top of a 5 layered cake, named "Anger", "Sadness", "Inspiration", "Confusion", and "Regret".
PHONE DETAILS
Manufacturer | Samsung
Name | Galaxy Note9
One UI Ver. | 1.0
Build Ver. | N960U1UEU1CSB3
Carrier | Google Fi/Unlocked
Type | Snapdragon 500 or 400 something
FAREWELL
Well it's the end of the post, I just wanted to say... thanks for reading and stay safe!
Not being disrespectful but I felt nauseous after reading your post.
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Meh
Yeah, sorry about that. It was rushed and plus I'm literally a new member to this site, But have used it in the past as I have, like I said in the post, began flashing phones.