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Initial review and comparison after 1 day.
I am a self certified phone junky and a proud dad and here is my initial review and comparison between the OnePlus 5 and the Samsung Galaxy S8,
Design.
Well this one is a no brainer the Samsung Galaxy S8 makes the OnePlus 5 look dated even though both of the screens are excellent in terms of contrast, viewing in direct sunlight the curved edges and form factor are a massive win for me with the Samsung.
Win Samsung Galaxy S8
Build Quality
Both phones are superbly built I was very apprehensive about the OnePlus 5 due to hearing lots of horror stories about the fit and finish of the product and luckily enough mine is free of any of these defects.
Win Samsung Galaxy S8 and OnePlus 5
Features
The stock OOS has some very nice features such as gesture support, remapping the capacitive buttons to perform other functions and is very well laid out and easy to find what you need.
The Samsung is well a complete mess way too many options in way too many categories and you have to search to find anything as it can be buried very deep.
The vast majority of the features on the Galaxy S8 I do not use nor care for basically.
Win OnePlus 5
Camera
This is a big one after reading review after review I did not have very high expectations of the OnePlus 5 specially when compared to my other phone the Samsung Galaxy S8.
However until you zoom in the photo’s actually look pretty good as long as you use HQ or Pro mode (the HDR modes are very poor)
I am definitely not a camera expert and what makes a good camera for me is can it take a “Clear Photo” of my manic 4 year old daughter without any motion blur or other artifacts.
The camera on the Galaxy S8 is much better you can rely on this to take excellent photos every time you want to use it and even when zoomed in the photo’s remain clear, crisp with no water color effect which the OnePlus 5 has.
Win Samsung Galaxy S8
Performance.
This is very easy for me to state the OnePlus 5 is one of the fastest phones I have ever owned and it has none of the lag or stutter of the Galaxy S8 (why oh why with so much power under the hood does the S8 have stutters in the UI)
Easy victory for the OnePlus 5
Thanks for your summary which in many aspects copies my own experience (presently have both and have to decide which to keep).
I'm still looking for a good camera app from playstore to copy the excellent image processing of the Samsung camera app.
To add to the points above: from my comparison the OP5 is vastly superior in GPS reception to my (Eynos) S8 !
s3axel said:
Thanks for your summary which in many aspects copies my own experience (presently have both and have to decide which to keep).
I'm still looking for a good camera app from playstore to copy the excellent image processing of the Samsung camera app.
To add to the points above: from my comparison the OP5 is vastly superior in GPS reception to my (Eynos) S8 !
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Try Cameringo+, that has some good processing ...
So how did the OP5 do at photos of your 4 year old? I have a 1yr and 5yr old and have the same struggles to get clear shots.
atistang said:
So how did the OP5 do at photos of your 4 year old? I have a 1yr and 5yr old and have the same struggles to get clear shots.
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It did ok although not as life like as the S8.
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It did ok although not as life like as the S8.
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Looks like it focused good though. Was that HQ or HDR? I've read recently that the OP5 seems to have sharper pictures in HQ mode.
atistang said:
Looks like it focused good though. Was that HQ or HDR? I've read recently that the OP5 seems to have sharper pictures in HQ mode.
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I think they where all in HQ
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It did ok although not as life like as the S8.
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Oh she's adorable! So cute. I'm no photographer, but the picture quality looks good to me.
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Updated to 4.5.5 yesterday and took some more photos was quite surprised by the results.
Link to the originals https://goo.gl/photos/kzY2SeMxPZ5yXmXv8
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daleski75 said:
Updated to 4.5.5 yesterday and took some more photos was quite surprised by the results.
Link to the originals https://goo.gl/photos/kzY2SeMxPZ5yXmXv8
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Very nice!! Moving kids was the Achilles heel of OP3T :good::good: With op3t I basically could not a get a decent picture with my kid unless she was in complete standstill*
*You need Tom Cruise for that – i.e. Mission Impossible X
Hi,
So I recently pickedup Oneplus 5. I had Honor 8 Pro already. I was planning to sell the Honor 8 Pro and Make Oneplus 5 my daily driver. I was looking forward to "Dual Cameras. Clearer Photos"
But the moment I started snapping some pics, I was left dismayed by the sub-par, borderline poor image quality produced by on the paper very good cameras! The photos were full of noise and a lot dark! I expected good low light performance from a 1.7 aperture lens but in reality, the camera kept pushing the ISO and shutter speed to really high levels in very good and well lit conditions as well!
The night shots were so bad I didn't even bother keeping them. Why does such a GOOD on paper camera take such crappy photos? The fine detail is smudged up. The dynamic range is horrendous, HDR or no HDR. The lights get blown out and the darks are too dark to keep any details! Most pics come under exposed.
I am really disappointed. And from the research I did afterwards (I wish I had done it before...). It seems its an open-secret and Oneplus aren't really keen on fixing it...
Please check this Album. I have taken similar photos with Honor 8 Pro and then Oneplus 5.
I might add more later.
Let me know which one is better...
https://flic.kr/s/aHsmc38Zwe
In all cropped sets, first pic is by Huawei Honor 8 Pro(H) & second pic is by Oneplus 5(O).
Photo 1
1 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
1 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 2
2 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
2 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 3
3 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
3 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 4
4 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
4 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 5
5 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
5 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 6
6 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
6 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Photo 7
7 H by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
7 O by NHS2008NC, on Flickr
Of course I have to sell one. As much as I like the dash charging, Better codec support, and amoled screen (night reading)...I am really torn to part with such a good camera phone.
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Attached pics (full pics in Flickr Album):
1) Oneplus 5 Auto
2) Oneplus 5 Pro
3) Oneplus 5 Gcam HDR+
4) Honor 8 Pro Auto
i don't know dude those pics look weird n funky , n even if the op5 cam is bad it ain't THAT bad as shown in the pics , i'm really confused
To me the pictures looks ok, but I do not expected a professional picture from a smartphone camera :good: as I it always said to a friend of mine that always trolled smartphone cameras, if you want high quality and professional looking pictures buy a professional camera :laugh:
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GraveDigger176 said:
To me the pictures looks ok, but I do not expected a professional picture from a smartphone camera :good: as I it always said to a friend of mine that always trolled smartphone cameras, if you want high quality and professional looking pictures buy a professional camera :laugh:
Sent from my OnePlus 5 using XDA Labs
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Always an excuse to feel better about your expense...
Well. I am not asking for PROFESSIONAL looking picture. See the other phone I posted has 4 less mega pixels. An aperture of 2.2 compared to 1.7. But still it takes sharper and less noisy images with greater detail and colour accuracy.
Lol just go back to the honor 8 pro then? I dont know how those photos came up that crappy but I get decent shots on the one plus 5. Try usin gcam.
Not sure what's to complain about. It's a cell phone camera of course it's gonna be pretty crappy. What about everything else about the phone? I get 8-9 hours sot every day no matter what I do on it. I think that more than makes up for a camera.
I Took this with my op5 and it's better than all of your pictures. Go get a professional camera and a flip phone.
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I Took this with my op5 and it's better than all of your pictures. Go get a professional camera and a flip phone.
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I think that stupid argument has already been raised by one person. What are you comparing that shot against?
If you had a Honor 8 pro. You would have gotten a better version of it.
So please if you have nothing to contribute, stop barking non sense. I can also take great shots using mods and what not then tweak them on PC and post.
Edit: And if you consider complaining about poor camera performance on a flagship with 'Dual cameras. Clearer photos' tagline; then you should get the Fanboy of the year award!
All i see is SALT these days.
NHS2008 said:
I think that stupid argument has already been raised by one person. What are you comparing that shot against?
If you had a Honor 8 pro. You would have gotten a better version of it.
So please if you have nothing to contribute, stop barking non sense. I can also take great shots using mods and what not then tweak them on PC and post.
Edit: And if you consider complaining about poor camera performance on a flagship with 'Dual cameras. Clearer photos' tagline; then you should get the Fanboy of the year award!
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Well you say ".. if you have nothing to contribute, stop barking non sense." , so.. what did you contribute besides saying that your honor is SO much better than an OP and just showing up Pictures where I dont think that an OP5 would shot SUCH bad shots and also These are just random shots where also half of These look very similar to me.
Also,you know, this is the OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion Forum, so yeah this is neither some News nor a Guide and also no Discussion as ist just plain complaining from your side.
So to contribute for the forum and all the People here im going to Report this thread and hope that other People do this too.
It's definitely not a secret that One Plus has a terrible camera app. My $150 Samsung Galaxy J3 could take better pictures, especially in low light. If the camera app on the OP5 wasn't such utter crap there wouldn't be a very long thread on XDA filled with people using the Google Pixel camera app on this phone. The OP5 is never going to be a good camera phone. One Plus only supports Camera 1 API which is very dated and limited. Google introduced the Camera 2 API on the Nexus 5X which I think was running Marshmallow.
If you want proof the camera will never be fixed just look at the 5T. One Plus did not tout that as a great camera phone like they did with the OP5. One Plus also ditched the telephoto lense in favor of a low light lense because they don't know how to fix the software issue with the OP5 camera. Like you said on paper the OP5 has great camera hardware. But One Plus doesn't have the talented software engineers that could actually take advantage of it.
I can't see myself buying another One Plus phone because I think they are a terrible company. Whatever phone One Plus releases is based on a model from Oppo. The difference? The One Plus version will have better on paper hardware specs and the Oppo version will have far better build quality. The Oppo version will also take much better pictures.
The build quality of the OP5 is lousy. My first one was unusable after about 3 months because of a defective motherboard and even though the phone was under warranty One Plus customer service and warranty repair is so horrible the only way I could get a working phone was to file an insurance claim and pay $150 deductible.
I was sent a brand new replacement phone and right out of the box the headphone jack was bad. I had to switch to Bluetooth because wired headphones don't work--the headphone plugs fall right out of the jack.
Then there's OOS. It's the programming equivalent of a custom ROM that you might flash on another phone. I do a clean flash every time there is a build update because dirty flashes consistently resulted in problems. A stock ROM should not be coded that poorly but it's an open secret that One Plus lost all of its best software engineers and the talent drain forced them to combine development of Oxygen and Hydrogen (the Chinese operating system) under one roof and all the programmers they have left are from the Hydrogen side. The problem with that is that One Plus is a very minor brand in Asia so they don't attract the best talent.
There aren't even plans to release an official version of Lineage Oreo for this phone. The OP5 was only sold for 4 months. If One Plus doesn't care about this phone why should major software devs?
NHS2008 said:
I think that stupid argument has already been raised by one person. What are you comparing that shot against?
If you had a Honor 8 pro. You would have gotten a better version of it.
So please if you have nothing to contribute, stop barking non sense. I can also take great shots using mods and what not then tweak them on PC and post.
Edit: And if you consider complaining about poor camera performance on a flagship with 'Dual cameras. Clearer photos' tagline; then you should get the Fanboy of the year award!
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I didn't tweak anything that's the default quality and far better than any of the pictures posted by the honor 8 on OP. And I will say whatever I want and I did contribute something for comparison all your doing is running your mouth. If you don't like the op5 then get the f*** of the forum for it.
NHS2008 said:
Hi,
So I recently pickedup Oneplus 5. I had Honor 8 Pro already. I was planning to sell the Honor 8 Pro and Make Oneplus 5 my daily driver. I was looking forward to "Dual Cameras. Clearer Photos"
But the moment I started snapping some pics, I was left dismayed by the sub-par, borderline poor image quality produced by on the paper very good cameras! The photos were full of noise and a lot dark! I expected good low light performance from a 1.7 aperture lens but in reality, the camera kept pushing the ISO and shutter speed to really high levels in very good and well lit conditions as well!
The night shots were so bad I didn't even bother keeping them. Why does such a GOOD on paper camera take such crappy photos? The fine detail is smudged up. The dynamic range is horrendous, HDR or no HDR. The lights get blown out and the darks are too dark to keep any details! Most pics come under exposed.
I am really disappointed. And from the research I did afterwards (I wish I had done it before...). It seems its an open-secret and Oneplus aren't really keen on fixing it...
Please check this Album. I have taken similar photos with Honor 8 Pro and then Oneplus 5.
I might add more later.
Let me know which one is better...
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LOL, personnaly it's the worst pics ever on both model.... Seriously you have use Zoom on all picture and save with 50% jpg for post on fliker? Even my first Numerique Cam (1024*768) take better pictures
I took a picture just for you
BFMSAND said:
Well you say ".. if you have nothing to contribute, stop barking non sense." , so.. what did you contribute besides saying that your honor is SO much better than an OP and just showing up Pictures where I dont think that an OP5 would shot SUCH bad shots and also These are just random shots where also half of These look very similar to me.
Also,you know, this is the OnePlus 5 Guides, News, & Discussion Forum, so yeah this is neither some News nor a Guide and also no Discussion as ist just plain complaining from your side.
So to contribute for the forum and all the People here im going to Report this thread and hope that other People do this too.
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How did I contribute? I posted pics taken from both phones!
Please see the word I have highlighted above. Go ahead and report. Mr. FanBOY.
evilbait said:
All i see is SALT these days.
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se7ensde said:
I didn't tweak anything that's the default quality and far better than any of the pictures posted by the honor 8 on OP. And I will say whatever I want and I did contribute something for comparison all your doing is running your mouth. If you don't like the op5 then get the f*** of the forum for it.
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Hahaha...good joke. Please post the full image then.
Pho3nX said:
LOL, personnaly it's the worst pics ever on both model.... Seriously you have use Zoom on all picture and save with 50% jpg for post on fliker? Even my first Numerique Cam (1024*768) take better pictures
I took a picture just for you
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No. zoom is used. And you can see the difference clearly in both the pics.
And the pic you've posted. Is that supposed to be an example of Oneplus 5's great image quality? Cause I see ton of noise and smudged detail.
NHS2008 said:
No. zoom is used. And you can see the difference clearly in both the pics.
And the pic you've posted. Is that supposed to be an example of Oneplus 5's great image quality? Cause I see ton of noise and smudged detail.
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No. zoom is used. And you can see the difference clearly in both the pics.
> All your pics are ugly
And the pic you've posted. Is that supposed to be an example of Oneplus 5's great image quality? Cause I see ton of noise and smudged detail.
> Not an example, just a pic in my kitchen without light (just normal light) and again compressed by casimage (host).. and this "poor" pic is x4 better than your posted quality pics. Even a blinded man can see that
We can talk without be only on the defensive way... If you're always right, do not write on a forum
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How did I contribute? I posted pics taken from both phones!
Please see the word I have highlighted above. Go ahead and report. Mr. FanBOY.
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Hahaha...good joke. Please post the full image then.
No. zoom is used. And you can see the difference clearly in both the pics.
And the pic you've posted. Is that supposed to be an example of Oneplus 5's great image quality? Cause I see ton of noise and smudged detail.
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All those pictures are fake. Do you even have OnePlus 5 bro?
Can you please post one more image with OnePlus watermark?
Pho3nX said:
No. zoom is used. And you can see the difference clearly in both the pics.
> All your pics are ugly
And the pic you've posted. Is that supposed to be an example of Oneplus 5's great image quality? Cause I see ton of noise and smudged detail.
> Not an example, just a pic in my kitchen without light (just normal light) and again compressed by casimage (host).. and this "poor" pic is x4 better than your posted quality pics. Even a blinded man can see that
We can talk without be only on the defensive way... If you're always right, do not write on a forum
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No point in arguing with a troll
JerryXss said:
All those pictures are fake. Do you even have OnePlus 5 bro?
Can you please post one more image with OnePlus watermark?
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Here ya go...straight off the phone.
Edit: Added another pic...?
The softness of Oneplus 5 main cam pics is a known issue (aka water colour effect); I have compared the pics from OP5 with LG G6 and Samsung Note 4. (My opinion = Note 4 was best). I was as disappointed as you are now, i suppose. However, since I had no choice but to use OP5, I found certain workarounds. Hopefully they'll help you too.
1) ALWAYS use manual mode for normal photos! (no need to tweak any settings, keep all on auto. Manual mode apparently doesn't use the same compression algo that main cam does => sharpness increased & noise reduction improved)
2) Check out the 100% jpeg mod in the forum. It's really works
3) Don't zoom in on every pic. I know it sounds silly but it's like a psychological itch you must scratch - don't. On the whole, the pics are pretty awesome if you just enjoy them as they are and not analyse too deep.
Cheers!
PS : Apologies for not being able to post comparison pics, I don't have those phones anymore. Just take my word for it
Topsy Krett said:
The softness of Oneplus 5 main cam pics is a known issue (aka water colour effect); I have compared the pics from OP5 with LG G6 and Samsung Note 4. (My opinion = Note 4 was best). I was as disappointed as you are now, i suppose. However, since I had no choice but to use OP5, I found certain workarounds. Hopefully they'll help you too.
1) ALWAYS use manual mode for normal photos! (no need to tweak any settings, keep all on auto. Manual mode apparently doesn't use the same compression algo that main cam does => sharpness increased & noise reduction improved)
2) Check out the 100% jpeg mod in the forum. It's really works
3) Don't zoom in on every pic. I know it sounds silly but it's like a psychological itch you must scratch - don't. On the whole, the pics are pretty awesome if you just enjoy them as they are and not analyse too deep.
Cheers!
PS : Apologies for not being able to post comparison pics, I don't have those phones anymore. Just take my word for it
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I had note 4 too and it took great pics.
Yes. I have found out that manual mode takes more cleaner pics compared to auto.
I am using the Gcam mod and it actually does some justice to the sensor on Oneplus 5!
I was thinking of using the 100% quality mod but I read it makes the file size really large.
I don't use the zoom feature though.
Thanks for understanding my perspective.
OP5 photos
I'm curious because I've read that a lot of people don't like the camera. Why is that? I'm not sure if I should buy that phone.
Chippelchen said:
I'm curious because I've read that a lot of people don't like the camera. Why is that? I'm not sure if I should buy that phone.
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Why you make a new topic about this because its been talked about and some hate it but many love it. But why focus on words when you can judge for your self when you go to places like flickr and see how each phone takes them photo's
Chippelchen said:
I'm curious because I've read that a lot of people don't like the camera. Why is that? I'm not sure if I should buy that phone.
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The point and shoot is second to none.
The pro and night modes are both second to none..
Telephoto lens is superb
Only thing is say ia better is HDR on the pixel.
Besides that the p20 Pro stands alone. Even against late 2018 phones.
Unbeatable point & shoot camera performance. Never seen a camera fair that well on phone before.
Pixel 3 camera is very good but not as refined or versatile as the Huawei system.
If you don't know how to tame it, you will not like it. But if you can tame it and know the capabilities and limitations of the sensor, you will love it!
I'm having a blast with it, because i know how it works inside out and now i can push it to it's limits.
/ Magnus
I love it
The thing I don't like is that I often get blurry images if I point and shoot
Hello,
For "HDR" effect, yu can use "night mode" in the day time. Otherwise I love the camera... competely... Have been using this phone on daily bases for 3 months and I'm astonished.
Here are some pictures - point and shoot
https://imgur.com/a/wcyZP4q
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Unbeatable point & shoot camera performance. Never seen a camera fair that well on phone before.
Pixel 3 camera is very good but not as refined or versatile as the Huawei system.
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You got your hands on Pixel 3 already? Weird I thought they're not supposed to deliver until sometime later.
Not at all, There is a entire thread showing the amazing photos this phone can deliver, this phone camera is versatile, it has the best nightmode out there, the best zoom, and the main 40mp sensor can capture a lot of detail, Last night i manage to take a photo of a lighting (https://i.imgur.com/32TxPqG.jpg).
a flicker with P20 pro photos :
https://www.flickr.com/groups/[email protected]/
Yea, i love the P20 pro camera and night mode is freaking awesome! Only negative things i can think off is no stabilization on 4k video and the selfie cam could be a bit better but besides these 2 i think this camera is pretty much the best you can get right now for a cheap price.
for me it doesn't matter what i read or what other peoples say.
The camera of this phone is insane. Especially the night mode. Never saw something like this. Night shots looks brighter than with the human eye?
The only thing i don't like is the post processing of the camera app (oversharpening)
P20 Pro camera is neither bad, nor cheap, but both of those are highly subjective opinions. And you know what they say about opinions....
I am enjoying mine very much.
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Chippelchen said:
I'm curious because I've read that a lot of people don't like the camera. Why is that? I'm not sure if I should buy that phone.
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The front/selfie camera is what most people are complaining about, esp. the color saturation. It gives a plasticy color to human skin.
The main camera is superb.
The camera is really bad on this phone.
Pictures are so over processed and lake dynamic range.
In 10mpx it's inusable and in 40mpx il't noisy. Video recording is also bad.
This phone is just horrible. My olds S8+ and Xiaomi Mi9t are much better except for zooming and low light. S9+ destroys completely the p20 pro.
I really regret my purchase.
achour7 said:
The camera is really bad on this phone.
Pictures are so over processed and lake dynamic range.
In 10mpx it's inusable and in 40mpx il't noisy. Video recording is also bad.
This phone is just horrible. My olds S8+ and Xiaomi Mi9t are much better except for zooming and low light. S9+ destroys completely the p20 pro.
I really regret my purchase.
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I cannot second that. The only thing i can complain about is video recording.
Main shooter is more than capable to take great pics. It's incomparably better than op 7t.
The camera quality on this phone is really good. Anyone who says it's crap is objectively wrong.
The camera quality in the p20 pro still today better than many flagship, more than one year later, I compare the camera with the recents iPhone 11 pro max, pixel 4, mate 30 pro, samsung note 10, and it's nothing to envy of them, the kirin 970 is slower in games, but is smooth and very fast still
what is the best siting of camera ? in 10 m pixel or 40m pixel ?
Depend on the situation, with good daylight 40, 10 if you don't want big pictures files, for zoom, night and difficult light conditions better 10, normally I use 10, because Huawei optimized the software and the cams to work together in this setup, working main, telephoto and monochrome camera sensor together for improvement results
maahmd said:
what is the best siting of camera ? in 10 m pixel or 40m pixel ?
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I always wanted a premium oneplus device and this device is perfect. I love Oxygen OS, its my favorite oem skin because its has a stock feel to it with a few useful features. I'd love to get away from Samsung but Oneplus has more work to do on their camera processing. I took a bunch of pictures with my 6t yesterday and most of them came out pretty good. Then you have that one or two pictures that look weird,
Look at this image. It doesn't look right. It looks unnatural. Like a painting
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/oneplus-7-pro-camera
Posted this on the op7 forums .. didn't actually thought there is a pro forum too xd
I have an Xperia 1 ii which I do really like, I've always enjoyed Sony phones and I really like the look and feel of it. The long display is great for me, the storage (plus option of an SD card) is good and the battery is OK.*
I am by no means an expert photographer but the camera on a phone is one of the main draws for me on a phone. Whilst I have been able to capture some nice shots on my Xperia, I have found the point and shoot camera to be very hit and miss and definitely lacking either under artificial light or at night. It certainly feels like a stepdown from the camera on my old P20 Pro.
Given this, I am considering trading in my Xperia and switching to the Pixel 5, predominantly*for the camera and also taking advantage of the Bose preorder offer. From what I can see, the main downgrades would be a stepdown in processor, smaller screen and reduction in storage size (with no SD option). The latter could be a slight barrier as I am currently using 122GB of storage on my Xperia (I like to keep a fair chunk of music offline) so this would basically max out the Pixel.
It would be helpful to hear the views of any Xperia and/or Pixel owners or just any community experts who know a lot more than me!
Well, considering you've used the 1ii, you know that the form factor and processing power are quite good. You won't get either on the Pixel. The camera on the Pixel may be better set up for point and shoot, yes. I've found the 1ii's point and shooting abilities to be good, and of course you lose some of the benefits of manual RAW tweaking if that is up your alley. Further, the 1ii has a telephoto lens, while the P5 lacks one entirely, so if you like zooming in on stuff the Sony is the way to go. And there is absolutely no way you can store 122GB of music on a 128GB Pixel. Remember, a number of GB are taken up by the system (and then your apps).
As a former Pixel user, the Xperia has a different feel for its photos, being more neutral, for instance, but I've come to enjoy it. That said, the Pixel camera gets better night mode results. Still, a port of GCam is in the works (WHEN it may come is up in the air). Once it eventually comes out, the advantages of the Pixel will be available on the 1ii (so, let's go Arnova!)
(There is a GCam 5 you can check out, linked in some other posts, though I've found it to be hit or miss stability wise.)
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Well, considering you've used the 1ii, you know that the form factor and processing power are quite good. You won't get either on the Pixel. The camera on the Pixel may be better set up for point and shoot, yes. I've found the 1ii's point and shooting abilities to be good, and of course you lose some of the benefits of manual RAW tweaking if that is up your alley. Further, the 1ii has a telephoto lens, while the P5 lacks one entirely, so if you like zooming in on stuff the Sony is the way to go. And there is absolutely no way you can store 122GB of music on a 128GB Pixel. Remember, a number of GB are taken up by the system (and then your apps).
As a former Pixel user, the Xperia has a different feel for its photos, being more neutral, for instance, but I've come to enjoy it. That said, the Pixel camera gets better night mode results. Still, a port of GCam is in the works (WHEN it may come is up in the air). Once it eventually comes out, the advantages of the Pixel will be available on the 1ii (so, let's go Arnova!)
(There is a GCam 5 you can check out, linked in some other posts, though I've found it to be hit or miss stability wise.)
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Thanks a lot for the feedback. I have been following the Gcam thread for the Xperia 1ii having been very excited about it but it doesn't appear to be imminent any time soon (that's not a criticism at all, the guys trying to develop it sound amazing) so I'm wary about waiting more months to see if that comes good. I think I might pre order a Pixel and if I'm not enjoying it in the first 14 days, return it and go back to the Xperia.
Tmel14 said:
Thanks a lot for the feedback. I have been following the Gcam thread for the Xperia 1ii having been very excited about it but it doesn't appear to be imminent any time soon (that's not a criticism at all, the guys trying to develop it sound amazing) so I'm wary about waiting more months to see if that comes good. I think I might pre order a Pixel and if I'm not enjoying it in the first 14 days, return it and go back to the Xperia.
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You can check out the Gcam 5 thread. I find that it works pretty well (the MGC variant), but only for the main and selfie cameras. You may need to fiddle with the settings for best stability and results, though.
Based on my testing, the Pixel 4 produced better quality photos in almost every setting that wasn't perfectly lit. Sony grabs amazing detail in perfect lighting, but only in raw.
Unfortunately the two phones are apples and oranges. One's a manual shooter while the other's a point and click. Neither one is great at doing the other, seeing as Sony's post-processing is downright garbage. Gcam on the Sony would be nice, but it seems like development on this phone is completely dead. We don't even have a recompiled kernel yet, let alone a working Gcam 7.x.
Just know that the Pixel 5 will not have a 2x zoom lens. That's a big downgrade from the Pixel 4, where it made a huge difference.
nebula9 said:
Well, considering you've used the 1ii, you know that the form factor and processing power are quite good. You won't get either on the Pixel. The camera on the Pixel may be better set up for point and shoot, yes. I've found the 1ii's point and shooting abilities to be good, and of course you lose some of the benefits of manual RAW tweaking if that is up your alley. Further, the 1ii has a telephoto lens, while the P5 lacks one entirely, so if you like zooming in on stuff the Sony is the way to go. And there is absolutely no way you can store 122GB of music on a 128GB Pixel. Remember, a number of GB are taken up by the system (and then your apps).
As a former Pixel user, the Xperia has a different feel for its photos, being more neutral, for instance, but I've come to enjoy it. That said, the Pixel camera gets better night mode results. Still, a port of GCam is in the works (WHEN it may come is up in the air). Once it eventually comes out, the advantages of the Pixel will be available on the 1ii (so, let's go Arnova!)
(There is a GCam 5 you can check out, linked in some other posts, though I've found it to be hit or miss stability wise.)
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Just for information, Pixels also can shoot in RAW. Even my old Pixel 3 can do it.
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YandereSan said:
Based on my testing, the Pixel 4 produced better quality photos in almost every setting that wasn't perfectly lit. Sony grabs amazing detail in perfect lighting, but only in raw.
Unfortunately the two phones are apples and oranges. One's a manual shooter while the other's a point and click. Neither one is great at doing the other, seeing as Sony's post-processing is downright garbage. Gcam on the Sony would be nice, but it seems like development on this phone is completely dead. We don't even have a recompiled kernel yet, let alone a working Gcam 7.x.
Just know that the Pixel 5 will not have a 2x zoom lens. That's a big downgrade from the Pixel 4, where it made a huge difference.
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I can confirm exactly the same experience on my Pixel 4XL against Xperia 1 and 5 (apart from RAW part which is missing on those Sony phones). My Xperia failed to deliver good photos at not perfect light condition. Night shots were unusable without using a tripod. And yes, Sony's post-processing seems simply doesn't exist which is not wise idea when it comes to tiny lenses of smartphones. I guess that inability to implement proper post-processing led Sony to these fully Manual control camera-phones with reference to creativity etc . That's just pathetic, sorry.