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Hello,
I bought a used phone in Canada (almost brand new). It is blue 6/128GB variant. In the blue backplate, and in the One UI about phone it says SM-N960U and in both areas it has the same IMEI number. The back glass looks original.
But when I do a IMEI lookup online it says SM-N960W (used more than one site) and the phone is not blocked.
Is this normal?
Install the app "phone info samsung" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
It should give you all the answers
tippytaps said:
Hello,
I bought a used phone in Canada (almost brand new). It is blue 6/128GB variant. In the blue backplate, and in the One UI about phone it says SM-N960U and in both areas it has the same IMEI number. The back glass looks original.
But when I do a IMEI lookup online it says SM-N960W (used more than one site) and the phone is not blocked.
Is this normal?
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the user probably flashed U or u1 firmware using patched Odin. which you can revert if the need be. general discussion and guides section has the how to.
but from what i gather you are in the states? so actualy keeping it as U might be beneficial for you...
anyways W and U (or u1) are all the same phone hardware wise. if ure happy with it and its working good then that shouldn't be an issue. unless its not payed off and once it comes to term and balance is not payed, it will get black listed and carriers will stop it from operating in their network.( so check esn state.)
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Snowby123 said:
Install the app "phone info samsung" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
It should give you all the answers
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acctualy it will just read what's flashed. so...
eg: if its a true W and someone flashed U firmware with patched Odin, then that app will report it as a n960u because it just reads what firmware resides on it.
IMEI can't be changed by firmware, it can only be permanently change by changing QCN & CERT, which will not work on you Note 9, so far.
I remember there were Xposed modules changing IMEI, but not permanently, just as an overlay.
Factory reset, upgrading to newer versions, debloating your phone.
Of course your real IMEI will show up simply.
You don't have to worry about your IMEI locationg another varian, I had similar experience, sadly their info about my variant was wrong.
Check your bootloader, it can not be faked.
Mohamedkam000 said:
IMEI can't be changed by firmware, it can only be permanently change by changing QCN & CERT, which will not work on you Note 9, so far.
I remember there were Xposed modules changing IMEI, but not permanently, just as an overlay.
Factory reset, upgrading to newer versions, debloating your phone.
Of course your real IMEI will show up simply.
You don't have to worry about your IMEI locationg another varian, I had similar experience, sadly their info about my variant was wrong.
Check your bootloader, it can not be faked.
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none of what you mention is the subject at hand. he is wondering that MODEL he has.
moreover talking or suggesting about changing imei is not aloud on xda.
he did say that during a imei check online it was linked to apparently a different model than he thinks he has.
bober10113 said:
none of what you mention is the subject at hand. he is wondering that MODEL he has.
moreover talking or suggesting about changing imei is not aloud on xda.
he did say that during a imei check online it was linked to apparently a different model than he thinks he has.
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What's the sexiest IMEI number on a device you have ever owned? I had one back in the UK once and the last 4 or 6 digits were all 1s.
In regards to op phone being blacklisted, do Canadian carriers share IMEI list with USA carriers? I was under the impression that only the originating carrier could blacklist the device only on their Network.
I only a couple more years ago , there was news that USA carriers shared their IMEI blacklisted numbers. But wasn't aware that for example, a T-Mobile blacklisted device could still work on att .
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Limeybastard said:
What's the sexiest IMEI number on a device you have ever owned? I had one back in the UK once and the last 4 or 6 digits were all 1s.
In regards to op phone being blacklisted, do Canadian carriers share IMEI list with USA carriers? I was under the impression that only the originating carrier could blacklist the device only on their Network.
I only a couple more years ago , there was news that USA carriers shared their IMEI blacklisted numbers. But wasn't aware that for example, a T-Mobile blacklisted device could still work on att .
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zeroes..
many holes.
my thoughs are that blacklisted imeis are like bad credit...
If I buy the unlocked from the Google store will Volte and Wifi calling work? I've known in the passed unlocked ones it didn't.
My google store stock unlocked pixel 3xl works with verizon volte and wifi calling. Visual voicemail does not work, most likely because I am on prepaid.
Do you have to do anything special for Verizon volte and wificalling or will putting a SIM in unlocked pixel 5 just work? I am coming from Pixel2 with volte but not wificalling
You have to enable both separately in the mobile network settings. I don't recall having to do anything on the carrier side.
pcloadletter1 said:
You have to enable both separately in the mobile network settings. I don't recall having to do anything on the carrier side.
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I was wondering about this, too. I just pre-ordered two unlocked Pixel 5s. I couldn't figure out why anyone would buy the Verizon version vs the unlocked. Is it just to avoid doing configuration like this?
flamadiddle said:
I was wondering about this, too. I just pre-ordered two unlocked Pixel 5s. I couldn't figure out why anyone would buy the Verizon version vs the unlocked. Is it just to avoid doing configuration like this?
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You can just roll it into your monthly bill and pay over 2 years. No further credit checks either. Bootloader will most likely be locked forever though so buyer beware if you are into root. And if you wait until black Friday you can probably get a BOGO deal of some sort.
flamadiddle said:
I was wondering about this, too. I just pre-ordered two unlocked Pixel 5s. I couldn't figure out why anyone would buy the Verizon version vs the unlocked. Is it just to avoid doing configuration like this?
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I went ahead and just preorderd the Pixel 5 Unlocked from google. Hope it works especially wifi calling.
Verizon's HD voice, volte and wifi calling work fine on my wifes unlocked Pixel 3 XL and my unlocked Pixel 4 XL. The unlocked Pixel 5 will probably be the same.
Volte and wifi calling work. Hd calling needs to be activated in your vzw account. Wifi calling works but has to have the radio turned off.
Now for the $64 dollar question: vzw has there own version and it seems Google's version won't do 5G on vzw. Why....?
Larzzzz82 said:
Now for the $64 dollar question: vzw has there own version and it seems Google's version won't do 5G on vzw. Why....?
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Where did you see that? I haven't seen anything about this.
Let me see if I can find the article...
Larzzzz82 said:
Let me see if I can find the article...
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That is incorrect.
It's still not clear what/if anything will be different between the Google store Pixel 5 and the VZW Pixel 5. Well other than one being carrier locked.
bobby janow said:
That is incorrect.
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If course it is. I haven't found the source of my comment yet.... Where's yours?
Larzzzz82 said:
If course it is. I haven't found the source of my comment yet.... Where's yours?
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You first. You claimed it.
You're claiming I'm incorrect. Prove me wrong instead of some of some adolescent I asked first, 2s a bigger number, bs.
I did claim it. Now as the prosecutor, it's your job to prove me wrong....
Do you get a conviction or what?
Larzzzz82 said:
You're claiming I'm incorrect. Prove me wrong instead of some of some adolescent I asked first, 2s a bigger number, bs.
I did claim it. Now as the prosecutor, it's your job to prove me wrong....
Do you get a conviction or what?
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Don't be silly. Do your research and find it. You were wrong what you said that's all this is about. Don't make a bigger deal than it is. No one is attacking you or prosecuting you. If you can prove your statement then I'll say sorry. Done here.
radon222 said:
It's still not clear what/if anything will be different between the Google store Pixel 5 and the VZW Pixel 5. Well other than one being carrier locked.
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This article was updated on Oct. 6th, hopefully it will answer your question. I can't even imagine that a Google version will not support everything, there would be no point.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/...networks-your-pixel-5-or-pixel-4a-5g-can-use/
bobby janow said:
This article was updated on Oct. 6th, hopefully it will answer your question. I can't even imagine that a Google version will not support everything, there would be no point.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/...networks-your-pixel-5-or-pixel-4a-5g-can-use/
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The only difference mentioned in that article is with the 4a 5G unlocked vs Verizon edition. No mention of the Verizon Pixel 5.
flamadiddle said:
The only difference mentioned in that article is with the 4a 5G unlocked vs Verizon edition. No mention of the Verizon Pixel 5.
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I don't even know how I got involved with this discussion since I don't have 5G where I live but here I am anyway. So.. they actually do mention the Pixel 5 but as you say not the Verizon branded one. Reason being it doesn't matter whether you buy the P5 from VZW or not, they work identical. Here is the exact quote: "However, all U.S. Pixel 5 (model ID GD1YQ) and Verizon-sold Pixel 4a 5G (G6QU3) units will also be able to access high-band millimeter wave spectrum — supercharged throughput with extremely limited coverage." Which should probably put this part of the thread to rest.
As for wifi calling it was stated a few posts ago that you need to have the radio turned off for wifi calling to work. That is not the case, at least on my Google P4. Wifi calling is working whether or not I have the radio on or off. If the signal is good wifi calling is in effect.
I have a Pixel 5 bought on eBay as an "open box". The thing's awake and generally no obvious signs of problems. But... I want to root it and OEM unlock is grey. Grrr...
I did a "reboot bootloader" and... bootloader "locked".
I assumed (silly me) this thing would be carrier agnostic. It's not.
So... What carrier uses GD1YQ? Let me guess... VZW
If it's not VZW or someone equally evil, how do unlock the bootloader?
BTW, V11 is loaded.
RBEmerson said:
I have a Pixel 5 bought on eBay as an "open box". The thing's awake and generally no obvious signs of problems. But... I want to root it and OEM unlock is grey. Grrr...
I did a "reboot bootloader" and... bootloader "locked".
I assumed (silly me) this thing would be carrier agnostic. It's not.
So... What carrier uses GD1YQ? Let me guess... VZW
If it's not VZW or someone equally evil, how do unlock the bootloader?
BTW, V11 is loaded.
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If oem unlock is greyed out, you can't unlock the bootloader.
I got that far,. Some of what I've found with Google suggests this isn't cast in concrete.
I rooted a Samsung S7 from Verizon, which means "don't so much as think about it". NTL the Sammy is rooted and has been for I forget how long.
Am I even more locked out with this unit? Again, does anyone have an idea about which carrier, if any, is associated with QD1YQ? If I read it correctly, some carriers will unlock the bootloader if the owner shows up, phone in hand.
The GD1YQ model is the Google Store model. It's carrier agnostic. Yea.
AFAIK the bootloader can't be unlocked. WTF
is there an image flashing tool for pixel similar to ODIN? otherwise probably no way around VZW crap.
RBEmerson said:
The GD1YQ model is the Google Store model. It's carrier agnostic. Yea.
AFAIK the bootloader can't be unlocked. WTF
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Is this true was about to buy that model.So bootloader is locked and it's from Google not Verizon.
AtrixHDMan said:
Is this true was about to buy that model. So bootloader is locked and it's from Google not Verizon.
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I've bought a GD1YQ on eBay and had no problem unlocking the bootloader, so it's not just the model number.
kfhughes said:
I've bought a GD1YQ on eBay and had no problem unlocking the bootloader, so it's not just the model number.
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I don't understand.The seller is saying it's from Google.So you think the bootloader can be unlocked or not.No returns.
AtrixHDMan said:
I don't understand.The seller is saying it's from Google.So you think the bootloader can be unlocked or not.No returns.
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I have no idea. Other threads recommend asking that the seller post a photo showing that the OEM unlocking is not grayed out.
kfhughes said:
I have no idea. Other threads recommend asking that the seller post a photo showing that the OEM unlocking is not grayed out.
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Thanks that want happened.Maybe just save up and buy from Google directly.Thanks.
kfhughes said:
I have no idea. Other threads recommend asking that the seller post a photo showing that the OEM unlocking is not grayed out.
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Exactly! If the seller can't demonstrate OEM Unlock isn't greyed out, say "thank you". Then walk away, very far away.
About the model GD1YQ,, I couldn't find one that is unlocked. Buying from Google doesn't guarantee the thing's unlocked. AFAIK, Google is less kind about unlocking than earlier. OTOH, I could wrong about that.
AtrixHDMan said:
I don't understand.The seller is saying it's from Google.So you think the bootloader can be unlocked or not.No returns.
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Google sells a Verizon branded phone on the Google store. That device is not unlockable.
bobby janow said:
Google sells a Verizon branded phone on the Google store. That device is not unlockable.
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What about a Google Pixel 3 and the IMEI number starts with 99?
AtrixHDMan said:
What about a Google Pixel 3 and the IMEI number starts with 99?
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That goes back a few years. I'm sorry I don't remember the 99 vs 35 IMEI results. I was actually able to get Google to replace my Verizon phone with an unlockable one back then but it took about a month of phone calls untill I found a kind second tier csr. The bottom line now is to get a screenie of the OEM switch.
bobby janow said:
That goes back a few years. I'm sorry I don't remember the 99 vs 35 IMEI results. I was actually able to get Google to replace my Verizon phone with an unlockable one back then but it took about a month of phone calls untill I found a kind second tier csr. The bottom line now is to get a screenie of the OEM switch.
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Yeah they want do that because it's new and box is sealed.Just read 99 is supposed to from Google and 35 from Verizon which I have a 35 here I'm returning because bootloader cannot be unlocked.
AtrixHDMan said:
Yeah they want do that because it's new and box is sealed.Just read 99 is supposed to from Google and 35 from Verizon which I have a 35 here I'm returning because bootloader cannot be unlocked.
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Ask if the box has two IMEI numbers. Google phones had an eSim whereas Verizon did not. Get a screen shot too. I think the 99 version is the right one but I can't swear by it. Any guarantees available?
bobby janow said:
Ask if the box has two IMEI numbers. Google phones had an eSim whereas Verizon did not. Get a screen shot too. I think the 99 version is the right one but I can't swear by it. Any guarantees available?
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I'll try and see.Thanks.
RBEmerson said:
The GD1YQ model is the Google Store model. It's carrier agnostic. Yea.
AFAIK the bootloader can't be unlocked. WTF
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Try this:
Don't insert SIM, but connect to WiFi. Skip through the rest of setup. Once at the home screen, open up Phone and dial *#*#CHECKIN#*#* (*#*#2432546#*#*), you should get a notifcation that says "checkin successfull". Let the phone sit for a few minutes, then reboot and see if OEM Unlocking is enabled. If not, leave it connected to WiFi for a while and come back to it later.
WaxysDargle said:
is there an image flashing tool for pixel similar to ODIN? otherwise probably no way around VZW crap.
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Pixel devices are set up quite differently from Samsung; individual partitions are flashed with images, rather than package files. AFAIK bootloader unlock is still required to use Odin, much as it's required to be able to issue flash commands via ADB.
Wish I'd known that. Drat. Anyway, unloaded the phone for a 4 XL which is now rooted.
Trying to decide between this and the 8t, just needing to clarify which version of the phone has bootloader unlock and root available. I'm in USA and on Verizon. Thanks
breacherman said:
Trying to decide between this and the 8t, just needing to clarify which version of the phone has bootloader unlock and root available. I'm in USA and on Verizon. Thanks
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I'd buy from the Google store, not from a provider.
Tulsadiver said:
I'd buy from the Google store, not from a provider.
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ok, are you saying that any pixel 5 bought from the google store would work? And I didn't plan on buying from a provider, just like my current V30 was the US998 which is the international carrier unlocked version bought form B&H photo.
I guess I was asking for an exact model because I would prefer to get it cheaper off maybe ebay, so I wanted to be sure of what I was getting.
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ok, are you saying that any pixel 5 bought from the google store would work? And I didn't plan on buying from a provider, just like my current V30 was the US998 which is the international carrier unlocked version bought form B&H photo.
I guess I was asking for an exact model because I would prefer to get it cheaper off maybe ebay, so I wanted to be sure of what I was getting.
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Yes,
Go to Settings
Tap About phone
Tap Regulatory labels
I bought mine from the Google Store, it's bootloader unlocked;
GD1YQ
andybones said:
Yes,
Go to Settings
Tap About phone
Tap Regulatory labels
I bought mine from the Google Store, it's bootloader unlocked;
GD1YQ
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ok great, thanks. I'll look into it.
andybones said:
Yes,
Go to Settings
Tap About phone
Tap Regulatory labels
I bought mine from the Google Store, it's bootloader unlocked;
GD1YQ
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Mine's GTT9Q, but I got it from my carrier. Is this something that is Google Store specific?
I'm rooted with unlocked bootloader of course. Got it from Telus in Canada, but the version comes up for many other countries as well. The US is the first listed.
xunholyx said:
Mine's GTT9Q, but I got it from my carrier. Is this something that is Google Store specific?
I'm rooted with unlocked bootloader of course. Got it from Telus in Canada, but the version comes up for many other countries as well. The US is the first listed.
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Hey man,
Good to see you on the P5!
GD1YQ: US version. mmwave and sub-6
GTT9Q: ROW version. sub-6 only
G5NZ6: JP version. ROW + Felica support
breacherman said:
ok, are you saying that any pixel 5 bought from the google store would work? And I didn't plan on buying from a provider, just like my current V30 was the US998 which is the international carrier unlocked version bought form B&H photo.
I guess I was asking for an exact model because I would prefer to get it cheaper off maybe ebay, so I wanted to be sure of what I was getting.
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Don't select the Verizon version from the Google Store even if you are using Verizon or the BL will not unlock. In addition, I ordered mine from Amazon and was also able to BL unlock immediately. Attempting to save $$ and buy from ebay or swappa will likely be a frustrating proposition as the model number cannot be used to indicate BL unlock capability. See this thread.
There should be a sticky that's just for Verizon that states bootloader can't be unlocked. Maybe that'll stop all these repeating Verizon bootloader unlock threads
andybones said:
Yes,
Go to Settings
Tap About phone
Tap Regulatory labels
I bought mine from the Google Store, it's bootloader unlocked;
GD1YQ
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U mean that your phone bootloader already unlocked when buy from Google Store?
fauz33 said:
U mean that your phone bootloader already unlocked when buy from Google Store?
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No, he doesn't mean that. He unlocked it himself.
thatsupnow said:
There should be a sticky that's just for Verizon that states bootloader can't be unlocked. Maybe that'll stop all these repeating Verizon bootloader unlock threads
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At least this one asked which ones could be unlocked.
Unlocked P5 doesn't equal rootable P5. Got that. Don't ask how I know...
Sooooooo... How do I find a P5 with an unlockable BL? And is functional with VZW, ATT, and the other nasties?
Google store
AFAIK, buying the Pixel 5 from the Google store doesn't guarantee the bootloader can be unlocked. It's my understanding Google isn't a friendly on this point as they have been. Or I've believed another rumor...
RBEmerson said:
AFAIK, buying the Pixel 5 from the Google store doesn't guarantee the bootloader can be unlocked. It's my understanding Google isn't a friendly on this point as they have been. Or I've believed another rumor...
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The Google store sells 3 models of Pixel 5. Google, Fi, and Verizon. Only the Verizon model is not unlockable. The other 2 are and probably will always be.
Do you have the model number for the Google version? I assume Fi's going to be the same.
VZW is GD9YQ , which is, for sure, not unlockable. DAHIK
RBEmerson said:
Do you have the model number for the Google version? I assume Fi's going to be the same.
VZW is GD9YQ , which is, for sure, not unlockable. DAHIK
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That is incorrect, sorry. I have a Google bought Pixel 5 and my wife got the Verizon model on a trade-in. Both are GD1YQ. From what I can understand the only way to determine is to look at the OEM switch after enabling developer options.
When you purchase the phone it will give you the option of the 3. I bought mine from Google for this very reason. People have bought the unlocked phone from Google, received a non-unlockable phone and sent it back. Easy peasy. Just checked the website again. You want the unlocked version... The other screen is my model
Why are you asking this question again? Were the replies in your other thread not enough?
Can the Google Store Pixel 5 bootloader be unlocked?
I've posted the question: "Can the Google Store Pixel 5 bootloader be unlocked?" in rooting threads and gotten no reply. The model number is the GD1YQ
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Buy it from the Google store and do not select the Verizon option even if you're going to use it with Verizon service.
Personally I bought from Amazon again not specifying the carrier as Verizon and was able to unlock the bootloader.