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how come only iphone has it...? it is the main reason why everybody loves it...
Basically it's a sharp display. Iphone makes it, really not too much better than say Super Amoled.
Super Amoled blows the Retina Display out of the water imo.
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Super Amoled blows the Retina Display out of the water imo.
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Having tried both i would say the Super amoled is the better screen
because it made their job easier to upscale their apps 2x to keep em compatible
1.5x upscale would of been blurry and cpu intensive , they really didnt have a choice
after realizing this , they wrapped it in their good ol' magical marketing concept which is about persuading you to believe that apple products are made by not engineers , but wizzards
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after realizing this , they wrapped it in their good ol' magical marketing concept which is about persuading you to believe that apple products are made by not engineers , but wizzards
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A marketing concept full of lies and pretty words and yet extremely successful.
htrx said:
A marketing concept full of lies and pretty words and yet extremely successful.
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That's why marketing managers earn more than engineers.
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how come only iphone has it...? it is the main reason why everybody loves it...
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It's not
Google up Sharp IS03
The so-called "Retina Display" is just a damned buzzword. It's basically a hi-res screen which is, as previously stated, inferior to S-AMOLED.
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That's why marketing managers earn more than engineers.
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Logic is a little tweeting bird chirping in meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad.
Besides the screen quality.. the others could increase their resolution as well. Like 480x800 they could find a new standard I think..
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Super Amoled blows the Retina Display out of the water imo.
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retina display is pretty good, but there is something super amoled that just jumps at you.
it's great.
I didn't think too much about this tech till I watched the video. Near the end of the video, you will see what I mean. Something the Knight Rider would gush at.
The video is toward the bottom of the page and is the Bose suspension video
http://www.gizmag.com/electromagnetic-automobile-suspension-demonstrated/18331/
Amazing!
great for my roads!
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Amazing!
great for my roads!
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Hahaha...same here. The local gov deliberately lets the roads go to hell to beef up the local auto repair businesses...lol That means they are generally rough to the point of swallowing a whole car in some extreme cases.
I wonder if that suspension tech would be able to leap over such holes...LOL
Haha.
It will certainly make drink driving a lot easier.....cup of coffee I mean, of course
Less spillage
Magnets. How do they work?
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Magnets. How do they work?
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Fantasically! According to that demonstration...hehe. This is pretty much a more advanced version of an active suspension system where the struts are electrically controlled. It's actually basically rather simple in design, but the complexity comes from integrating electronics and all the associated hardware...like a CPU and all the sophisticated software and algorithms. Apparently the demonstrated system is using some kind of distance detection system...maybe infrared, radar or laser based...because the car actually jumps up like a horse before getting to the obstacle. Either that or it is a well created photoshop video where a ramp was made to look like a wall.
How did the car like jump on the last bit? :confused;
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Fantasically! According to that demonstration...hehe. This is pretty much a more advanced version of an active suspension system where the struts are electrically controlled. It's actually basically rather simple in design, but the complexity comes from integrating electronics and all the associated hardware...like a CPU and all the sophisticated software and algorithms. Apparently the demonstrated system is using some kind of distance detection system...maybe infrared, radar or laser based...because the car actually jumps up like a horse before getting to the obstacle. Either that or it is a well created photoshop video where a ramp was made to look like a wall.
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Surprisingly;
1. You answered the trolls number 1 troll question.
2. You answered the question wrong. The question was how do magnets work, not the concept we see above.
Hi everyone.
I have spent last 4 weeks to make short video using Note 9 exclusively. The idea was to check how far I can get using mobile phone camera only and get result which would be satisfying for YT or even further. Note 9 seemed to me the best for the purpose. To do so, I sent my Note 9 120 meters to the sky attached to the drone, drowned it in a pond and finally travelled around Yorkshire in UK to get some footage. As a result I just published today video on YT and my main interest is to find out if people can really say difference. I have used Davinci Resolve in post production. Colours are changed slightly to make it look “film like”.
I didn't want to make just moving pictures so there is a story. Don't judge me too harsh however.. I am not an actor.
During the process of filming I have learnt a lot about note 9 camera and I believe I could make much better quality video now. It made me sure that it is possible to make quite serious production
with modern mobile phone if one wish to.
I hope everyone enjoy it.
Link didn't work so HERE is proper link
It's good. Well done you!
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It's good. Well done you!
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thanks
Was hoping to see some footage of Halifax.
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Was hoping to see some footage of Halifax.
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to be honest I was thinking of Halifax a lot but unfortunately didn't manage to go there I thought about view from A58 road just when it enters to the town
Great video man!! Someone should contact Samsung they need to see this, possibly add you in their commercial. I have also noted amazing video quality, pic quality still feels to soft tho but its ok
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Great video man!! Someone should contact Samsung they need to see this, possibly add you in their commercial. I have also noted amazing video quality, pic quality still feels to soft tho but its ok
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Thanks man I really appreciate your words. Comments like this is like getting the best possible award )) Thanks
Nice effort..lol
You really put it under water?
Hope it gets plenty of views on YT..
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Nice effort..lol
You really put it under water?
Hope it gets plenty of views on YT..
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well... I did. The water wasn't my biggest concern though... My biggest concern was when Note was attached to the drone 120 meters above me... This phone is huge... and made a huge resistance in the air... and because delicate suspension I had to construct and use to eliminate vibrations I was in constant fear it will detach from the drone and .... well ... I don't want even consider what would happen...
I am not very big on YT, so do not expect plenty of views but really appreciate your comment. Thanks
I've done a few videos with the Note 9 so far and have found it to be exceptional.
See here: https://youtu.be/k-15LfCyyNg Including use of all slow motion modes as well. (Gets real dramatic around 4 minutes)
My BIGGEST complaint is the algorithm used for choosing either the telephoto lens or if there's not enough light it uses the wide lens with a sensor crop/digital zoom. In great daylight the telephoto looks just as crisp as the wide, but even the slightest bit of darkness, even pointing it directly at a sunset (seen here: https://youtu.be/jmApdV_P6Hk) and it flips over to the wide with a crop ruining the consistency. As most have noted, this same crap happens in "pro" mode as well.
I really wish in at least pro mode, Samsung would let the creator choose. I can mitigate sensor noise, I can't really mitigate lack of resolution.
Very well done on the film above! I'm impressed. Did you use Filmic Pro or the stock camera app and get the anamorphic crop in post?
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I've done a few videos with the Note 9 so far and have found it to be exceptional.
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Very nice videos of yours.
My idea was to make video with camera settings as they are. So I used original camera app at fully automatic. The only changes I have made were in post production
and I used Davinci Resolve 15 for both - adjusting colours and anamorphic crop.
I agree with you that "pro" mode should be fully pro I have not noticed the problem you described though. I need to check it.
My conclusion is that actually whatever we will say about mobile phone's cameras they are so good nowadays that with a bit of effort everyone can make videos like mine or yours ..
I didn't expect 1000€ device still has this issue.
If you want to test it on your note 9 download this image: https://i.imgur.com/DUEKJzH.jpg
It is dark solid grey background.
In dark room open this image and set brightness to low. You should see uniform gray color.
I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
Here is what I see:
https://imgur.com/a/efvMZXE
https://imgur.com/a/uJPa8jE
Feel free to enlighten me but unless you spend all your time looking at a dark solid grey background, I don't see why this is an issue. I have tested mine with a similar image and to my eyes, the screen is perfect.
Your link to the image is dead btw.
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Feel free to enlighten me but unless you spend all your time looking at a dark solid grey background, I don't see why this is an issue. I have tested mine with a similar image and to my eyes, the screen is perfect.
Your link to the image is dead btw.
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Many apps has dark gray background. First I didn't test anything I just noticed it in youtube app - dark mode. Its quite disappointing.
I tried all three links on another pc and they are working.
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Many apps has dark gray background. First I didn't test anything I just noticed it in youtube app - dark mode. Its quite disappointing.
I tried all three links on another pc and they are working.
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While they do have a dark grey background, there is usually something in front of the background to draw your eye to instead.
Thanks for letting me know about the links, it's amazing how editing your post, fixing the links and saving the post makes the links work. I did check the links and all I see is noise.
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While they do have a dark grey background, there is usually something in front of the background to draw your eye to instead.
Thanks for letting me know about the links, it's amazing how editing your post, fixing the links and saving the post makes the links work. I did check the links and all I see is noise.
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Not every time background is covered by content. I can clearly see difference on youtube app, top part of display is slightly lighter and greenish and bottom is darker and reddish.
I did nothing to the links. I just tried to add pictures (insert image) but it didn't work.
seems my note 9 does not have the issue u reported
see the pic u posted as screenshot from my note 9
No issue here.
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I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
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I think you think wrong. From which orifice did you pluck that 90% figure from?
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I think you think wrong. From which orifice did you pluck that 90% figure from?
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Thats how mass production works. Or do you think im the only one who got exclusive defective device?
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Thats how mass production works. Or do you think im the only one who got exclusive defective device?
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Actually, mass production usually aims for less than 1% failure rate, so I'm pretty confident you got one of those >1%.
Considering YOU are the only one complaining, then yes, you're probably one unlucky person.
If you were talking about a Google Pixel 2/3, then yes, you're likely to have a **** screen, because that's how they are. Samsung screens aren't like that at all - the Note 9 has one of, if not THE best screen available on any phone.
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Actually, mass production usually aims for less than 1% failure rate, so I'm pretty confident you got one of those >1%.
Considering YOU are the only one complaining, then yes, you're probably one unlucky person.
If you were talking about a Google Pixel 2/3, then yes, you're likely to have a **** screen, because that's how they are. Samsung screens aren't like that at all - the Note 9 has one of, if not THE best screen available on any phone.
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Thats why Im disappointed. Didnt expect this from Samsung.
Im going to try another piece so we will see.
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I didn't expect 1000€ device still has this issue.
If you want to test it on your note 9 download this image: https://i.imgur.com/DUEKJzH.jpg
It is dark solid grey background.
In dark room open this image and set brightness to low. You should see uniform gray color.
I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
Here is what I see:
https://imgur.com/a/efvMZXE
https://imgur.com/a/uJPa8jE
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I am pretty sure they will agree to change it + the chances to draw again a problematic display are really slim. Sadly some do have such a problem and actually I saw a lot worse on the xda forums. Return it for exchange is my advice.
Look in my thread history. I made threads about Samsung display uniformity issues since Note3!
It got better over the years, but still I estimate only 10-30% of all Amoled screens are perfect.
Samsung makes things right in terms of quality management, because most customers do not notice this flaw, but if you are sensible to it, it's hard to ignore!
in my threads I also explained the reason for this, which is how amoled screens are produced. they are cut out of wafers after lithography. only devices cut out of the center of the wafer have almost uniform screens. the more from a side your screen has been cut out, the worse the screen quality will be.
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Look in my thread history. I made threads about Samsung display uniformity issues since Note3!
It got better over the years, but still I estimate only 10-30% of all Amoled screens are perfect.
Samsung makes things right in terms of quality management, because most customers do not notice this flaw, but if you are sensible to it, it's hard to ignore!
in my threads I also explained the reason for this, which is how amoled screens are produced. they are cut out of wafers after lithography. only devices cut out of the center of the wafer have almost uniform screens. the more from a side your screen has been cut out, the worse the screen quality will be.
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I think it has improved a lot since a couple of years. Before that, I used to swap my Samsung phones once or twice to get a decent one.
But the last 4 or 5 phones I bought, all with Samsung screens, were all perfect.
That includes Pixel 2 (not XL), Note 9, S8+, P20 Pro, etc....
Either I got extremely lucky to get as many perfect screens in a row, or they really improved things. Now I think it will happen to me again to have a bad one, but I'm not as nervous anymore. It's not a lottery anymore.
My Note 9 in particular is extremely impressive with a perfect screen. Perfect whites, no uniformity problem with any shades of grey at any brightness. Pure oled bliss.
BUT, I've had so many problems before that I'll ALWAYS be a little nervous before unboxing an oled screen smartphone. I've been burned too many times with crappy panels.
Let me tell you I was extremely nervous the day I bought my LG Oled 4K TV 55"..... Thousands of dollars thrown at an Oled panel lottery.... I was lucky this time again
Times are changing.
Okay so I got another note 9 and has this issue too but in different spot. Also checked one more piece in samsung store...same.
So I think almost everyone has this uneven screen but maybe some of you have less sensitive eyes or just don't want to see this problem
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Okay so I got another note 9 and has this issue too but in different spot. Also checked one more piece in samsung store...same.
So I think almost everyone has this uneven screen but maybe some of you have less sensitive eyes or just don't want to see this problem
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So my question is, does this affect your use of the device? Is it causing wear and tear on you vision? Or is it just an OCD/OCPD effect?
To me personally, stuff like this is pointless to have an issue with even on a phone that costs $1000. Unless it's to the point where you can't use the device because you see the defect on everything.
To another comment I saw that included the word "Perfect," NOTHING is perfect, and there will never be such a thing that could be perfect because of our human definition of what perfection is. It's good to strive for Better, but it's pointless to strive for Perfection.
Btw, I did download the Pic and tested it on my Note 9 and my wife's Note 8, and the uniformity is affected on both devices. I also looked at the image on my 4K TVs and my LCD monitors and the effect is there. Are you sure the image itself is uniform?
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So my question is, does this affect your use of the device? Is it causing wear and tear on you vision? Or is it just an OCD/OCPD effect?
To me personally, stuff like this is pointless to have an issue with even on a phone that costs $1000. Unless it's to the point where you can't use the device because you see the defect on everything.
To another comment I saw that included the word "Perfect," NOTHING is perfect, and there will never be such a thing that could be perfect because of our human definition of what perfection is. It's good to strive for Better, but it's pointless to strive for Perfection.
Btw, I did download the Pic and tested it on my Note 9 and my wife's Note 8, and the uniformity is affected on both devices. I also looked at the image on my 4K TVs and my LCD monitors and the effect is there. Are you sure the image itself is uniform?
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Perfect screens exist. I have some. I have perfect eyesight. I was a combat helicopter pilot in the french army. I know what to look for. If it is there I see it. If it is not, I don't. It's a fact. It's science. Not some voodoo magic wishful thinking.
I've had terrible screens. I've had some perfect. Nowadays I get more good ones than bad.
Bad ones still exist, but it my opinion that they are less and less common.
Against clear backgrounds you won't see much apart from a slight shift in color temperature.
Against dark grey at indoor brightness you can have incredible differences between some parts of the screen.
If you use a dark theme (not black), you will see it all the time.
Does it prevents you from using the phone ? No of course not.
Does it suck on a 1000 dollars phone ? Yes.
Some people are insensitive to that kind of thing. Good for them.
It's not an OCD. It's the will to have a good looking screen.
I like good looking women. I don't think it's an OCD. I know what I want, that's all. And I want the best. Nothing less.
If you want to settle with average, good for you.
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Perfect screens exist. I have some. I have perfect eyesight. I was a combat helicopter pilot in the french army. I know what to look for. If it is there I see it. If it is not, I don't. It's a fact. It's science. Not some voodoo magic wishful thinking.
I've had terrible screens. I've had some perfect. Nowadays I get more good ones than bad.
Bad ones still exist, but it my opinion that they are less and less common.
Against clear backgrounds you won't see much apart from a slight shift in color temperature.
Against dark grey at indoor brightness you can have incredible differences between some parts of the screen.
If you use a dark theme (not black), you will see it all the time.
Does it prevents you from using the phone ? No of course not.
Does it suck on a 1000 dollars phone ? Yes.
Some people are insensitive to that kind of thing. Good for them.
It's not an OCD. It's the will to have a good looking screen.
I like good looking women. I don't think it's an OCD. I know what I want, that's all. And I want the best. Nothing less.
If you want to settle with average, good for you.
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I literally stopped reading at "Perfect eyesight." And then I went back and read your reply...and I still stopped at perfect eyesight. I wish I was as perfect as you man. For real...???
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I literally stopped reading at "Perfect eyesight." And then I went back and read your reply...and I still stopped at perfect eyesight. I wish I was as perfect as you man. For real...??
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You do know that you have to have a perfect eyesight to be a combat pilot, do you ?
Acuity, color, contrast, night vision, side vision, field of view, and much more. Everything is tested BEFORE you're even allowed to go forward in the selection process.
Most people fail those tests. That's sad but that's life.
As a side note, you don't have to have perfect vision to see those screen problems.
They can be very obvious to anybody open minded enough.
Close minded people though, will always be impervious to such matter.
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You do know that you have to have a perfect eyesight to be a combat pilot, do you ?
Acuity, color, contrast, night vision, side vision, field of view, and much more. Everything is tested BEFORE you're even allowed to go forward in the selection process.
Most people fail those tests. That's sad but that's life.
As a side note, you don't have to have perfect vision to see those screen problems.
They can be very obvious to anybody open minded enough.
Close minded people though, will always be impervious to such matter.
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You literally missed the most important part of my original post. That's why I stopped reading your post.
And yes I do know you have to have "Perfect" eyesight to join some military air forces.?
And I hope you aren't calling me closed minded. I never said someone has to have perfect eyesight to see the differences of the pixels in the image.
Anyways, I'm done with this. Quite pointless now.??
We should start to see pics coming from tomorrow,
Continuously Updated Photo Album: https://photos.app.goo.gl/c1dw1JPvgauw7Sdx8
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Some pics from NYC taken with the OP7 Pro: https://photos.app.goo.gl/c1dw1JPvgauw7Sdx8
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Thx, lookin like the shutter speed is tad slow, hopefully thats bcs of the low light, causing the motion blur like 6t does
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Thx, lookin like the shutter speed is tad slow, hopefully thats bcs of the low light, causing the motion blur like 6t does
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Everything was shot on auto. I could've switched to pro but it was raining off and on and I didn't feel like it
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Everything was shot on auto. I could've switched to pro but it was raining off and on and I didn't feel like it
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Ohh got ya, well am always using auto myself, what phone u had before then? If op .. would u say that shutter speed is faster?
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Ohh got ya, well am always using auto myself, what phone u had before then? If op .. would u say that shutter speed is faster?
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Shutter speed seems about average. I had the S10e. I don't notice a huge difference either way, but I'm still playing around with it.. I do wish indoor pics held up better, but that is common with any phone other than the pixel
I kinda wish OnePlus put the money into only one lens instead of three. Have a great single lens, larger sensor and keep it simple and work on the photo processing.
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I kinda wish OnePlus put the money into only one lens instead of three. Have a great single lens, larger sensor and keep it simple and work on the photo processing.
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I feel like they have the camera hardware; it's just the processing that needs work. Just look at what the Gcam ports are capable of on OnePlus devices.
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I feel like they have the camera hardware; it's just the processing that needs work. Just look at what the Gcam ports are capable of on OnePlus devices.
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how much of a difference do you notice with the OP7p compared to the 10e?
i have a 3xl and going to get the OP7Pro - i just hope im not disappointed in the camera. but DXOmark looks pretty promising
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how much of a difference do you notice with the OP7p compared to the 10e?
i have a 3xl and going to get the OP7Pro - i just hope im not disappointed in the camera. but DXOmark looks pretty promising
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If you like the 3xl then when they port the google camera to the OP7Pro you will be really happy I think. It looks like with the HW the OP7Pro has paired with Google camera processing will be killer.
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If you like the 3xl then when they port the google camera to the OP7Pro you will be really happy I think. It looks like with the HW the OP7Pro has paired with Google camera processing will be killer.
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But how's it look now?
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Everything was shot on auto. I could've switched to pro but it was raining off and on and I didn't feel like it
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Mind providing few more pics? Something during daylight, and possibly like moving people
Been struggling with with whether to get this or the p30 pro. Might have to go with the p30 pro
I'll post comparison pics to gcam a little later. I think it's just as good as the S10e, though. In good lighting it can compete with any of them, although it has a tendency to blow out the highlights some. Low light is where the others take a bit of an advantage.
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Been struggling with with whether to get this or the p30 pro. Might have to go with the p30 pro
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Well, all depends if u want a good software or a bad software if u already thinking abt huwaei.. u either had one and dont mind the software or never played with one before...
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I'll post comparison pics to gcam a little later. I think it's just as good as the S10e, though. In good lighting it can compete with any of them, although it has a tendency to blow out the highlights some. Low light is where the others take a bit of an advantage.
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No worries thanks dude,
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Well, all depends if u want a good software or a bad software if u already thinking abt huwaei.. u either had one and dont mind the software or never played with one before...
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I am mainly interested in battery life and camera performance. And camera performance so far looks hit and miss. I have owned almost every OP device. And I don't know I am just not feeling all that excited about this one. To get the battery life is want I will have to dial back all the settings that make this phone stand out. To get great camera performance I am going to have to pray the gcam mod comes out and it's as good as it was on the 6T
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I am mainly interested in battery life and camera performance. And camera performance so far looks hit and miss. I have owned almost every OP device. And I don't know I am just not feeling all that excited about this one. To get the battery life is want I will have to dial back all the settings that make this phone stand out. To get great camera performance I am going to have to pray the gcam mod comes out and it's as good as it was on the 6T
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Keep in mind. P30 sucks in daylight, good only for low light and night time, pixie still unbeaten, and i tried myself mate 20 pro, and managed to last a week, something where oxygen really shines, if u can to try Huawei before u buy... Just sayin bud, let us know what u end up getting at the end
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Keep in mind. P30 sucks in daylight, good only for low light and night time, pixie still unbeaten, and i tried myself mate 20 pro, and managed to last a week, something where oxygen really shines, if u can to try Huawei before u buy... Just sayin bud, let us know what u end up getting at the end
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There are not many alternatives atm. The S10+ has Knox and a fuse which disables many important features once you unlock it, also you can't undo it.
Huawei has stopped giving codes to unlock the bootloader.
Pixel 3 XL has good camera software, but a small battery, a very ugly notch (personal preference though), old Snapdragon 845 etc.
Am I missing something? A good camera phone which you can unlock easily and which has a decent community?
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There are not many alternatives atm. The S10+ has Knox and a fuse which disables many important features once you unlock it, also you can't undo it.
Huawei has stopped giving codes to unlock the bootloader.
Pixel 3 XL has good camera software, but a small battery, a very ugly notch (personal preference though), old Snapdragon 845 etc.
Am I missing something? A good camera phone which you can unlock easily and which has a decent community?
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Nope u dont missing much, if it wasn't for that 3xl notch, battery and ram.. i would be all over it, can't comment on op7 pro, have no idea how the cam is, wont find out till next week, abt the community... Things aint the same as they were back in the days with likes of htc desire etc... Basically there were no kids here , now every kid owns the phone